Post: #1

Hey guys,
I have been practicing game for a couple of months now and I discovered an interested phenomenon. After spending some time with a girl she will go quiet on me.

What does this mean? Is this shit test? Or is she bored?

Post: #2

We call it "ghosting" here. This is something all women (and plenty of men) do. It's a fact of life that you just need to learn to accept.

Women ghost
Women flake
Women creep
Women lie

The sooner you accept that basically women do these things the sooner you'll be able to filter through all that bullshit and get what you want out of women and in life. Expect it and you'll be better prepared for when it happens. And in the future it won't affect you so much if at all.

Ok, so after re-reading my response that's a very vague answer. For your situation, I'd say she's either busy or is losing interest. Pique that interest somehow (i.e. send her a message or an interesting picture of something you're doing) or set up that next date immediately. If she's still radio silent, next her.

Post: #3

Thank's man. What I mean a girl would 'ghost' during an interaction. Say I escalated it's going somewhere and then she'll become quiet.

Post: #4

She simply lost interest. It's a known fact around these threads that girls have the attention span of toddlers. Strike while the iron is hot and always keep an abundance mentality. You do those things and problems like girls going quiet will not be a concern of yours.

-CD

Post: #5

(09-05-2015 05:12 PM)Phatom Wrote:  Thank's man. What I mean a girl would 'ghost' during an interaction. Say I escalated it's going somewhere and then she'll become quiet.

I just assumed you meant texting.

Ok, so in person that means she's lost things to talk about and is quickly losing interest. You may need to work on your ramble, mix things up by changing the situation or venue, or figure out just what it is that might be hindering your game. It could be something as simple as your conversational ability or something a lot more complex - maybe you're boring to her? Hard to say without much more information, but if it didn't happen early on it's probably not physical. Sometimes it has nothing to do with you, it could be total incompatibility.

Questions you should ask yourself:

Are you an interesting person?
Do you have cool stories to tell?
What kinds of fun activities or hobbies do you get involved in regularly?
Do you have a lot of life/travel experience?
What do you specialize in (i.e. cooking, writing, drawing, music, marksmanship etc.)?
What makes you so different (or better) than the other guys she's dating?
Are you able to convey all of these things in a conversation without sounding arrogant?

These are attributes and qualities that are important to know and portray in person. Women are attracted to interesting men.

I'm not saying you have any deficiencies, but I am saying you should reflect on yourself and see where you might be struggling. Consider areas where you might need self-improvement.

Post: #6

@gmac
Hey man what happened is that my wingman and I approached this two set. I got this girl's phone number and physically escalated but my buddy was just starting to escalate with his girl. I stayed in set too long to help my wing. I think next time we'll have to change venues. Or maybe I could just leave. I think its a wingman issue.

The other times I think it could be that my game is 'high impact' so it relies on momentum and then I number close and leave. As building comfort is hard for me.

Post: #7

Bouncing to different venues really does the trick. The change of scenery or her being around a new group of people that will see yall in a different light really helps. It also might be a comfort issue. If she wants to change venues, she is into you and wants to learn more about you. Like Gmac said, cool hobbies, travel, and interesting stories really help.

Don't lay it on too thick to where she thinks you're trying to impress her. Bring it up casually. "Oh, that reminds of this time when I was in Honduras..."

If you run out of stuff to say, just ask her questions and build off that. It doesn't matter what you ask, women just like listening to themselves talk.

Post: #8

Without more detail, I'm guessing rapport problems. If you keep blathering eventually she will go quite. You may have to work on your conversational 'deep dive'. Think 'open ended, plunging questions'. An extreme example is when kids keep asking neverending 'why's. Think more like 'questions that must be answered with emotional insight'. Such as 'why did you want to do that'?

It's always three parts: you having something interesting to say (think dense rather than voluminous), you getting her to talk about herself deeply (not just surface-level information but deeper feelings), and physical contact.

Post: #9

-Low interest level
-Low female attention span (similar to a goldfish)
-Too many male options
-Failure to present yourself in dominant, escalating tone

Basically, you're dealing with a young, Western woman. Lead her, escalate, layer your conversation, maintain eye contact, shift locations to keep her interested and build comfort, don't give up too much about yourself, respond to shit tests accordingly (sometimes the best response is simply "that's a silly question" with a raised eyebrow). In essence, Game her.

Post: #10

Something to be careful of... Womenz do not like being escalated on in a place they frequent a lot. Dancing on the dancefloor is a little different.

Post: #11

^^So, do you ask if they frequent the place before you escalate? You're not going to be doing much escalating if that's the case.

Post: #12

Don't invest too much in one woman. You need to diversify your portfolio

Post: #13

Let me provide an allegory that you may be able to relate to:

Remember the first time you found a website that had 1000 free video games! Or a video game emulator etc. How many of those games did you actually play vs. getting bored quickly and moving onto the next one. Compare that to the attention you put into one video game at a time that you actually pay $65 for....

That is the dating world for women. They have constant attention from men, and with so many choices they can be very fickle, with no rhyme or reason. If one actually invests in you though, it takes her a little longer to quit.

Post: #14

I found it changed since the smart phone birth. Now she is getting hit on 24/7 due to social media and online dating.

From talking to my ex FBs, they catch up with me cause I don't chase them compare to 90% of guys. It's also cause i show I don't care. Soon as I show I'm into them even slightly or show beta traits, they ghost me!

Post: #15

I had a date with 7 on Wednesday last week. Ended kiss closing (she kinda initiated it, i suck, i know...). After two days i texted her that i had a good time and suggested next date(#2) for Sunday. She sent me a message "I dont know if I am available, i will let you know on Sunday" It is Tuesday now and no response. What did i do wrong? I tried to escalate pretty hard, but we were both sober and it was the first time we met.

Post: #16

^You didn't do anything wrong, she might have wanted more.

Do not text, she may come back.

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Post: #17

She texted me now "Ahh i somehow overlooked your message" Sure... I texted her ok, see you next time. I'll wait what she comes up with. No effort on my side from now on.
I am struggling, part of me wants to send her a message that she promised to text me on that day. I know that's uber beta, but...