Post: #4326

(11-05-2015 06:00 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(11-05-2015 02:07 AM)Roosh Wrote:  7 day ban for Blick. You can disagree, but no personal attacks.

Can we get a clarification on this on this Roosh?

Blicks reply was pretty heated, it's an emotional topic. But after scanning it the closest thing I could see that directly attacks Samseau is this:

(11-05-2015 01:49 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  You have absolutely zero fucking clue what you're talking about.

The punishment seems a little excessive for the crime.

Blick's contribution to this thread has been pretty substantial. If he is getting 7 days for this, I'm wondering what's left if he were to open up on Samseau with 4 letter expletives.

Unless of course, this is a culmination of previous transgressions.

His contribution has been minor at best; he's derided everyone else's opinion while attempting to claim authority based on a picture showing that he lives near the refugees.

I've been beat up and had a Rolex stolen by them. I've seen their numbers multiple tenfold seemingly overnight. ....and I've been working in the part of the Middle East these people are coming from for 7 years.

If he's living right next to the refugees; he's obviously giving the view from peasantville on the outskirts of town where the poorest Europeans already lived.

The major change is how these people are ruining the town centers -- not the outskirts. If you would have told me five years ago that I'd get beat up after bar close and have my Rolex stolen near the center of Munich I would have laughed at you.

Samseau's posts are a bit "doomsday-esque" and I believe Europe will check the migration before it reaches that point; but Blick Man's posts were head totally in the sand and contributing nothing. A plane ticket to go see for yourself isn't really that expensive. If you're scared of the plane ticket price; than just ask yourself what you'd expect happens when mass groups of people from an anti-Western warzone known for Islamic extremism move into Europe virtually unchecked/unscreened...It shouldn't be that hard to guess.

Post: #4327

I was at the main train station yesterday, I have to say I am honestly disgusted, physically revolted by the number of non-native people lounging about, begging, staring. I even saw some African soulmates take selfies on their Samsung Galaxy phone.

I've travelled a lot, I can tell who is who. The vast majority of these migrants have a very typical low class scum look, most of them look like petty criminials and thugs. Most people apparantly have lost the ability to see these kind of things but I can. I can identify a low class criminal whether American, Japanese, Thai or Syrian. There's a certain look in the face, a certain way to move, predatory light on feet, jolty limb movements as on guard.

Again, I feel utterly revolted at seeing these people, but my compatriots do not, their threath detection is definitely broken. These people are going to be a problem since they are most likely violent people who have fought and even killed before.

Tell me, those of you who live near migrants, have you seen them. Don't you see what I see? That these are criminals and low life thugs?

Post: #4328

(11-05-2015 06:25 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I was at the main train station yesterday, I have to say I am honestly disgusted, physically revolted by the number of non-native people lounging about, begging, staring. I even saw some African soulmates take selfies on their Samsung Galaxy phone.

I've travelled a lot, I can tell who is who. The vast majority of these migrants have a very typical low class scum look, most of them look like petty criminials and thugs. Most people apparantly have lost the ability to see these kind of things but I can. I can identify a low class criminal whether American, Japanese, Thai or Syrian. There's a certain look in the face, a certain way to move, predatory light on feet, jolty limb movements as on guard.

Again, I feel utterly revolted at seeing these people, but my compatriots do not, their threath detection is definitely broken. These people are going to be a problem since they are most likely violent people who have fought and even killed before.

Tell me, those of you who live near migrants, have you seen them. Don't you see what I see? That these are criminals and low life thugs?

Your post couldn't match my own thoughts and very-recent experiences in Germany any more closely.

Post: #4329

@nomadbrah
Yes. European countries, including my home country Belgium, get all the low class scum. The worst example of that is the Turks: they are (semi-)civilized country with a rich history but almost all Turkish immigrants that come here are dumb mountain people from the countryside in Anatolia... Arabs are the worst though.

Post: #4330

The fatwas of some clerics and calls to stab infidels is bearing fruit:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6170...estination

Quote:Tourists HACKED WITH KNIVES in gory attack at popular British holiday destination

This time it happened in Morocco:





At least it is clear that the locals instantly helped the tourists and even caught the perps in a quick citizen's arrest. They know that if the tourist flow of millions of Westerners ebbs, then the country will be fucked.

But it takes so little to radicalize those buggers, that I think that the sane ones are fighting a losing battle there. It's really a tragedy all around.

Tourists in certain areas need to be always ready to fight:

Post: #4331

Hungary 1.79%.

Post: #4332

Some interesting information:

Quote:The new, high-tech fence on the Bulgarian-turkish border is working only partially, sometimes not at all. For the system of termocameras, movement detectors and radars for detection of underground tunnels - (one of) the most modern in Europe - there are not enough money for electricity bills... The financial ministry is refusing to grant additional money so that the fence system could work.
...
For the first 8 months of the year, the Bulgarian government has caught and registered 6600 'refugees' but according to the authorities the number of those who have not been captured and stopped (on the journey to Western Europe) is enormously larger.
...

In Germany, because of the number of incomming migrants and the slowness of the registering system, only a third of them have their photos and fingerprints taken.
Around 18% of those in some asylum centers in Germany disappear without saying where they go. Nobody knows where they are now.

TOP KEK

Europe is doomed. The question now is : how do those of us who have not lost their mind survive and establish new communities with like-minded people.
I hear there are some US states with large territory and few inhabitants (like Wyoming), maybe we move there, secede and prohibit liberals and the leftist scum from entering by law

Post: #4333

(11-05-2015 01:49 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

Quote:So, we are all just paranoid?

Yes. I think you're bouncing around between right-wing articles and videos that serve as dopamine hits, ...... Additionally, many of the articles/links are suspect and especially in alt-right spheres of the internet (where I myself belong) there are no sources backing up many of the claims.

(I reply because actually it was originally a quote from me, not from Samseau: )

Absolutely not, Blick Mang! Most "right-wing articles and videos" I have been posting, come from sources like fdesouche.com, and, this site (though right-wing per se) is just an "agglomerating" website, gathering news articles from MSM and provincial main-stream media, without adding anything.

So, my sources are not right-wing articles and videos, if you follow my links, all of them are to well-known classic (MSM) media, like lefigaro, le parisien, bbc, lesoir.be, etc... all are "classic" media!

Anyway, what happened between Blick Mang and Samseau is a sad illustration of some (old) problems existing within nationalist movements and people...:

"Right-wing" people, having pride, moral strength and balls, are often prone to get confrontational, even with other right-wingers who share 98% of their beliefs... (and Blick Mang and Samseau certainly think alike on 98% of the subjects)

So we should all learn to never attack each other within the right- or alt-right- sphere, a bit like, in France, the FN and les Identitaires have learned to do: no personal attacks between allies against globalism...

Post: #4334

One thing I'm having trouble teasing out of this is the timing that it will all occur in - there's no way that things will collapse so suddenly and lead to civil war. The borders will have to be closed and some type of deportation implemented - will the German people really just completely give up? I just can't picture it.

Also, what is the role of technology playing in this? Let's say things don't collapse next year and it's a 5 year process. As drone observation/attack technology, google glass, social media, service apps (like Uber and Airbnb), travel apps that show which neighborhoods are dangerous proliferate, it will become more and more obvious who/where the problem makers are and it will be easier for the government to detain them and for people to know who are causing problems. Absent a complete blackout on this information spreading through the internet I don't see how people won't at some point realize what's going on and be able to use technology to resist. The civilized people will have the tech know-how on their side as well, won't that count for something? Also what about the rise of automation and its impact on the labor market?

Also, haven't seen any good timeline analysis on how the US presidential race fits in - where do you see the refugee crisis when Trump is campaigning in Iowa/New Hampshire/general elections, etc. What impact is there if Sanders or Clinton wins the nomination? If Trump comes out strongly against the refugees could that rally the people of Europe? Will it lead to the world elite doubling down on defeating Trump?

Also, people have mentioned Russia taking sides with the nationalists but I have a hard time visualizing how that will happen. And how do people see China's increasing aggression in their neighborhood factoring into this?

Finally, this has been mentioned in various threads, but of course the question of what individuals have to do - people in Europe, what they have to do to organize politically, and what they have to do in order to be prepared (water, guns, tools, skills, etc). What should people outside of Europe be doing to prepare for this? What implications does this have on savings and the financial system?

As Blick mentioned, it does feel like a hit of dopamine every time I open this thread and see doomsday scenarios talking about WW3 and civil war, kill all the refugees, etc. People here were screaming about Europe's collapse during the last Greek crisis and Russian Crimean invasion and the rise of ISIS, etc. I'm a bit fatigued by now, it seems like there are a lot of people waiting for some type of collapse or the other. I'm just hoping to get a bit more detailed in terms of the timeline and interlocking series of events and a bit less of the hysterics. Nothing personal.

Post: #4335

Quote:Also, what is the role of technology playing in this? Let's say things don't collapse next year and it's a 5 year process. As drone observation/attack technology, google glass, social media, service apps (like Uber and Airbnb), travel apps that show which neighborhoods are dangerous proliferate, it will become more and more obvious who/where the problem makers are and it will be easier for the government to detain them and for people to know who are causing problems. Absent a complete blackout on this information spreading through the internet I don't see how people won't at some point realize what's going on and be able to use technology to resist. The civilized people will have the tech know-how on their side as well, won't that count for something?

There are abundant statistics in the States about the differences in crime rates between whites and NAMs freely available.
There are countless materials including a lot of videos about NAMs disfunction in the States.
The shit neighbourhoods in different cities in the States are known and are overwhelmingly NAM-populated.

Has anything happened? Have the people risen up?

No. Why do you think it will be different in Europe? The only difference I see between the 2 situations is that in Europe the troublemakers will be muslim. I do not see how that will affect the outcome.

Post: #4336

I was at the Vienna train station yesterday.

The local government is providing free wi-fi called "Welcome Refugees" (or some such shit). When you click on it, it gets you to a welcome page in Arabic, and the English words "Welcome! You are Safe Now!"

The station stunk like a pig sty.

Also, never saw so many asymmetrical faces in my entire life.

It's Asymmetrical City Central.

Saw a few of them in a coffee shop openly staring at cleavages of very young (dumb) Austrian girls. You could tell they are just bidding their time until they go for a piece of gimmedat, hell or high water. You go from a life of burka, to a life of cleaveges and mini skirts. What could possibly happen.

Saw a "Refugees Welcome"-type female volunteer, late 20s, attractive, quite enamoredly helping 2-3 dudes with translation and cultural dis and dats. No doubt, some of the better looking dudes will clean up with local sluts craving exotic cock in their own backyards.

But the rest of them are of lower intelligence, and will do no better than the life of welfare, Romanian whores, and/or Kebab shops work in the ghettos of Berlin or Malmo.

It is their unborn children and grandchildren, that I am concerned about. They are the ones who will actually dillute Europe, with their "assimilation".

Post: #4337

(11-05-2015 06:00 AM)Ollave Wrote:  

(11-05-2015 02:07 AM)Roosh Wrote:  7 day ban for Blick. You can disagree, but no personal attacks.

Can we get a clarification on this on this Roosh?

Blicks reply was pretty heated, it's an emotional topic. But after scanning it the closest thing I could see that directly attacks Samseau is this:

(11-05-2015 01:49 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  You have absolutely zero fucking clue what you're talking about.

The punishment seems a little excessive for the crime.

Blick's contribution to this thread has been pretty substantial. If he is getting 7 days for this, I'm wondering what's left if he were to open up on Samseau with 4 letter expletives.

Unless of course, this is a culmination of previous transgressions.

Watch out for Samseau.

He gets prominent RVF posters banned. Samseau is always right, no matter what! Anybody with a different opinion will get banned.


He got both Houston and MidWest banned, couldn't take the white nationalism accusations like a man and instead went crying to Roosh for protection.

Blick Mang is lucky he got a 7-day suspension.

I agree with Blick by the way. Samseau needs to get laid instead of worrying about some false apocalypse.

@Samseau:

Sit down son! We all know WW3 aint happening, not anytime soon.

Post: #4338

@La Raza Unida, no need to shit-post.

Post: #4339

^^ There is a way to disagree with someone without calling him autistic (or Asperger like which is autism-light).

That's why he likely got banned and not because he disagreed with Samseau. There are plenty of members who disagree with guys on this thread - they simply don't post, did once and left it at that.

Here some old 2014 facts about migrants to Germany - you can forget about most of the data. I doubt that they will publish the crushing numbers for 2015 unless they want to give the opposition fodder:



Hah - 800.000 - it will be 1.5 million or more in 2015.



Those numbers are totally off. It was a sausage fest even in 2014. I also find the high number of minors suspicious - 6584 without any grown-ups. That number will explode anyone in his 20s claiming to be 17 and having lost his papers. Most idiots even saying that they were born on 1.1. like some backwards morons.



Point 7 is interesting. 33% are given asylum even if they don't claim to come from Syria, but what is more interesting ist the upper number of "withdrawals" at the top. 33% of them find other means of staying like fake marriage etc. - my guess is that many local migrants will do plenty of fake marriages for money.

All in all almost 70% of them stay. And those numbers are from 2014 before Fatima Merkel let everyone in who had some fake Syrian passport or paper.



Again old numbers, but interesting - only some 8000 migrants were shipped home in the first 6 months of 2015! Probably 200.000 came in by then already.

Also if you look at the most common source countries you find Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The point 12 is interesting - why deportations fail:

1. Resistance of the migrant - so what? He resists and that's the end of the story?
2. Resistance of pilots, flight crew or airline! That is the second most common reason why they don't fly them back - it happened 74 times in the last year! What could be the reason? Does the flight crew not want to ship violent crazy Middle Easterners home against their will? Not surprising if the crowds are not tied and in handcuffs.

Post: #4340

The EU just today has updated the number of illegal migrants whom are expected to come to Europe next year: from 1 million, to 3 millions!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34732415

Six months ago they warned about 250.000 arrivals. Three months ago, they said, 800.000 will come. One month ago, they reckoned 1.000.000 and today, they said, fuck it, there'll be 3 millions, minimum, coming our way.

Want to bet, that actually 6 millions of illegals will reach our shores in 2016!?

Post: #4341

(11-05-2015 11:31 AM)Going strong Wrote:  The EU just today has updated the number of illegal migrants whom are expected to come to Europe next year: from 1 million, to 3 millions!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34732415

Six months ago they warned about 250.000 arrivals. Three months ago, they said, 800.000 will come. One month ago, they reckoned 1.000.000 and today, they said, fuck it, there'll be 3 millions, minimum, coming our way.

Want to bet, that actually 6 millions of illegals will reach our shores in 2016!?

Quote:Sweden has the highest share of refugees per head of population in the EU. The extra cost in public spending is likely to be nearly 0.5% of GDP this year, the Commission says, adding that "the corresponding positive effects on growth would be somewhat smaller".

And here is the bump in GDP + 0,5% by the migrant crisis. Also + 0,5% in net EU debt. Take from the productive and give to the unproductive. Maybe they should let in 100 million by next year - that might boost the GDP by 20%. It is even worse than the usual tax and spend policies which were at least mostly used to build infrastructure. This is about as useful as funding a breakfast for 5 billion people around the world - they will be hungry the next day, but you will have wasted plenty of money.

Post: #4342

(11-05-2015 11:31 AM)Going strong Wrote:  The EU just today has updated the number of illegal migrants whom are expected to come to Europe next year: from 1 million, to 3 millions!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34732415

Six months ago they warned about 250.000 arrivals. Three months ago, they said, 800.000 will come. One month ago, they reckoned 1.000.000 and today, they said, fuck it, there'll be 3 millions, minimum, coming our way.

Want to bet, that actually 6 millions of illegals will reach our shores in 2016!?

The BBC really are a shower of bastards.
Of course they knew the numbers were far greater than they were stating but this is classic drip drip tactics to try and make people 'get used to' the idea of having a thousand migrants in their locality.
A couple of months later they tell you actually it will be ten thousand new arrivals, another month later actually it's really going to be fifty thousand and so on until we have insanely high numbers like this.
It's absolutely immoral and criminal the way people who have worked to make Europe what it is are being betrayed and lied to by the establishment, EU politcians, the media, academia, and corporate whores not to mention thousands of useful idiots across the entertainment and sports industry.
And the masses for the most part still will not see what is staring them in face because of their r-selected programming.
I've tried, God knows I've tried, but almost nobody takes what I say seriously about this, some think I'm paranoid and a handful think I'm a xenophobe (and have no problem telling others as much).

Post: #4343

(11-05-2015 11:58 AM)amity Wrote:  The BBC really are a shower of bastards.

If I have enough kids from different women to have them make a family band they will be Shower of Bastards.

Post: #4344

(11-05-2015 09:24 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  

Quote:Also, what is the role of technology playing in this? Let's say things don't collapse next year and it's a 5 year process. As drone observation/attack technology, google glass, social media, service apps (like Uber and Airbnb), travel apps that show which neighborhoods are dangerous proliferate, it will become more and more obvious who/where the problem makers are and it will be easier for the government to detain them and for people to know who are causing problems. Absent a complete blackout on this information spreading through the internet I don't see how people won't at some point realize what's going on and be able to use technology to resist. The civilized people will have the tech know-how on their side as well, won't that count for something?

There are abundant statistics in the States about the differences in crime rates between whites and NAMs freely available.
There are countless materials including a lot of videos about NAMs disfunction in the States.
The shit neighbourhoods in different cities in the States are known and are overwhelmingly NAM-populated.

Has anything happened? Have the people risen up?

No. Why do you think it will be different in Europe? The only difference I see between the 2 situations is that in Europe the troublemakers will be muslim. I do not see how that will affect the outcome.

Europe doesn't have the space and resources for natives to create suburbs when the city centers collapse, or the 2nd Amendment laws which support small towns, country dwellars and farmers being able to limit refugee movement, regardless of national policies.

Detroit shows what happens in America when the cities are invaded by refugees. Everyone just leaves.

Post: #4345

Some points direct from Germany. We get a camp with 500 refugees in my town. There is no rise of crime. I know friends at other places, they say just the same. Yes you see them and it feel strange when they walk in groups. But 80 - 90 % don't commit crimes I would say. The fights in the camps, are in the camps. Of course with more people more crime happen, more rapes.

But its also very different in which state you live, mine is very strict. In the past we also had never any big immigration issues. But for the left wing states, it get worse. As I mention before, those states lack discipline, they lack economical power and the will to keep on rules.

So for me the streets will still be safe, still I already feel uncomfortable when I go to a bigger city full with immigrants and see some younger ones in a group, action loud and so on. My mood goes on to protection and trouble. And this feeling will soon rise. It will also rise that those invaders will connect, and they connect quite better then Germans, that they create more no go areas.

The issue will not a direct civil war, nor a danger in daily life. Just areas and places you avoid. This will rise. With the time those people claim to have power in their areas, claim to have power in society. Its the same now with the islamic societies, some get supportet by saudi arabia or turky but the government works with them. In the future when there will be many more muslims they demand more public power.
One issue that held them back, beside that they are stupid, they are split into many different religious groups. They will rise their no go areas, they will rise the tolerance for islam and they will rise more rights for them.

This all will go in slow steps, so when you talk out now, you don't get people listen to you. So the only ones that agree with you are far right wing neo nazis. But those racist you don't want to have as supporters. So you kind of alone, no reasonable person out there.
I see it similar to the rise of the Nazis, if you are smart, you did escape in 33 to 35, maybe even rise a resistance group in south america today. There is no hope to fight it from the inside. The whole system has to collapse. People have to suffer and the smart ones have to leave and come for salvation from the outside.

Post: #4346

^ Yes - for the most part there won't be any drastic steps, just life getting incrementally less safe, less prosperous, certain areas being left to the invaders. They are hardly united and they won't be in the future. So you can expect scenes like Ferguson or the London riots from time to time, but no actual civil war.

That is the most likely scenario from my point of view. For the women however the rape risk will rise 1000%+ - also you have to be more careful similar to when you walk around South American cities. It's not that it is impossible to live there, it's just worse (also no upside as in more women etc.).

That is my personal opinion. Maybe in the future decades later there might come a time when a more drastic conflict emerges, but that is not a foregone conclusion in my opinion.

Post: #4347

Arado-Where is your historical justification that things will not collapse suddenly into Civil War?

Egypt collapsed suddenly-almost into Civil War.

Syria-Collapsed suddenly into Civil War and has been at war against radical jihad for 4 years.

Libya collapsed suddenly into Civil War

Lebanon collapsed suddenly into civil war.

Ukraine collapsed suddenly into civil war.

Kosovo collapsed suddenly into civil war.




These are all recent. There is this weird Western European delusional belief amongst moderates and leftists that Europe is incapable of ever being in a war again or that their economies are magical and can handle any amount of crime, welfare, and ungrateful migrants.

These countries may seem magical to you Arado, but the magic is simply the Europeans who keep everything rolling, but it isn't sustainable and WILL end soon, whether you think they will or not is not relevant.


Reality is reality whether you want it to be or not. Western Europe, Germany in particular, is on a collision course with Reality.

Post: #4348

(11-05-2015 02:11 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  Arado-Where is your historical justification that things will not collapse suddenly into Civil War?

Egypt collapsed suddenly-almost into Civil War.

Syria-Collapsed suddenly into Civil War and has been at war against radical jihad for 4 years.

Libya collapsed suddenly into Civil War

Lebanon collapsed suddenly into civil war.

Ukraine collapsed suddenly into civil war.

Kosovo collapsed suddenly into civil war.

These countries were driven into civil war by the world's superpowers. I'm not saying that won't be the case in Europe also.

Post: #4349

(11-05-2015 01:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  That is the most likely scenario from my point of view. For the women however the rape risk will rise 1000%+ - also you have to be more careful similar to when you walk around South American cities. It's not that it is impossible to live there, it's just worse (also no upside as in more women etc.).

There's been talk of the probability of WW3 on this thread but I think we can I agree with this: there's more likelihood of WW3 then feminists finally starting to condemn "migrant rape culture".

Post: #4350

(11-05-2015 03:17 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

(11-05-2015 01:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  That is the most likely scenario from my point of view. For the women however the rape risk will rise 1000%+ - also you have to be more careful similar to when you walk around South American cities. It's not that it is impossible to live there, it's just worse (also no upside as in more women etc.).

There's been talk of the probability of WW3 on this thread but I think we can I agree with this: there's more likelihood of WW3 then feminists finally starting to condemn "migrant rape culture".

Don't get me wrong. Some sort of WW3 or global civil war is still likely. I also have stated often enough that the money elite certainly wants the Muslim faith gone for good. They won't have them have their sharia countries in Europe or anywhere else - they will even wipe out Saudi Arabia after Iran is gone. But that conflict is likely decades away. Then it will go fast.

Frankly the examples given from Egypt to Ukraine are not surprising. Usually poverty plagued those places for decades (except Libya). When poverty hits folk, then fast changes and civil wars can be initiated. With Libya it was the endemic tribal culture and Islam which made it to easier to incite the people. Ukraine just began as local Ukrainians were protesting against the corruption of the oligarchs. That dissatisfaction was seized upon by the globalist powers which brought them something much worse than before.

Power and money isn't that concentrated anywhere in the EU as in the Ukraine. Wealth is spread much greater and even the political powers are not so easily controlled. They own the media of course and the top level politicians, but new pesky independent parties crop up almost everywhere and take 10% of votes. Also Europeans are still highly uniform especially in Eastern Europe.

Poverty and austerity will clobber Europeans (as well as Americans) into the ripe form so that nationalist states may collapse in the end - the current invaders and their progeny will then come of great use to start the big final war.



Islam will be gone, but it seems to me that original Judaism will be gone too (there are plenty of signs that the global elite are not the real friends of Israel and the common Jewish people, but that is beside the point).

In any case - whether this will come about in that form or not remains to be seen. At least hardly anyone among us denies that what is happening will have a happy ending.