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(04-17-2017 12:59 PM)Rigsby Wrote:(04-17-2017 12:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Currently with most of those attacks you can assume the perpetrator to be Islam until proven innocent and it is actually some other group or lone psychopath. Specific attacks like car attacks are virtually 100% the domain of Islam - slaying children, women and pets.
The same goes for the wide application of acid attacks - this is a new enriching tradition in the UK.
I would disagree with you. With regard to it being Islam.
In this instance at least. In fact, in most instances, where we talk about 'those attacks' - I am assuming you are referring specifically to acid attacks.
The area where that took place is a hot-bed of multi-culturalism. You have a very large black population, but you also have turks and kurds, apart from indians and even some whites.
Using acid, or ammonia, is not a new tactic for gangs. It has been known about for decades. Some carry ammonia in a lemon jiffy container and call it 'squirt'. I don't know how the law is now, but for may years if you had a car and had that in the glove compartment, there was plausible deniability that you were using it to clean your windscreen.
Also, the use of corrosives is not an exclusively black or islam thing. Many whites know about this. There are some really nasty bastard whites as well, believe it or not, that would stab you and leave you for dead without a care in the world. But that area is predominantly black gang culture.
I used to live in London Fields (where this attack took place).
Just down the road is Clapton, otherwise known as the 'Murder Mile'. People get shot there all the time. It's a very nasty area, even Stoke Newington which is a hippy/lefty/muso/artist enclave can be troublesome at the wrong corner turn at the wrong time of night. It's not really an Islamic area though. Islam tends to behave itself when outnumbered by the even more vicious black gangs that pretty much rule everyone by their sheer numbers and ferocity.
The photo in the newpaper was that of a club with predominantly white people. It's true that the people of that area self-segregate. Whites don't go to black clubs, and most blacks don't go to white clubs. I'm not sure if I believe that photo, but I believe nothing from the press.
It may be that this was a white on white incident. Or more likely, a turk on kurd, or turk on white, or kurd on white attack. Generally speaking the kurds and the turks fight among themselves and white people get a pass. White people cause no trouble. They turn a blind eye when there is trouble. So they are not a threat. They are not involved in the heroin/drug trade as are the turks/kurds, so it's all good. The black gangs there tend to run more of the crack angle. Generalising of course, there is overlap.
The turks and kurds do fight with the blacks though, not just themselves.
Oh, I forgot to mention the biggest baddest gang at Stoke Newington police station - the police of course. They really don't like black people, and if you go in to the cop house there, and you are black, there is a good chance you won't come out. Absolutely frightening statistics of all those young buck blacks taking on the world, but suddenly, once in custody, deciding to throw themselves down the stairs, hang themselves, or just beat each other to death. You can find the statistics if you look, they are there. No prosecutions either, not one I don't think.
I think the most likely explanation is that the perp is known but it will never be said in public. It would cause too much outrage. There would be repercussions. It could very well be Islam, or a black gang member, a turk or a kurd, or even a white. The fact they have given no details shows us that they probably won't tell us now. This saves reprisals, but it also winds the public up, sows confusion and distrust and speculation, such as on this thread.
Someone in the community will know about this. This is how it works: in a weeks time, you will hear about another incident in the area. No one will know who did it of course, but it's just tit for tat. A week after that there will be more. If everyone is lucky, it dies down for a while until the next time. People are murdered every day there and you hear nothing about it. Blacks, kurds, turks, whites, all worthless and not worth mentioning.
But to blame this on Islam in the absence of all evidence, well, I would call that wild speculation. Does it matter at the end of the day? We all know how this story ends. The black gang and the kurd/turk gang warfare in East and North London are a separate issue, and one that is not going away. Islam is of course a problem as well, but very few of those mentioned subscribe to that particular death cult yet. They are too busy developing their own.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the Irish, but enough for now, let's just include them along with the whites I mentioned. Don't discount them though. Then again, I doubt they would ever use squirt or acid. They might shoot people or blow them up, but their mothers would give them a clip around their ears if they ever used such savagery.
It's been a while since I lived there. Things might have changed a lot. But I doubt they have changed for the better. I saw how it was all going when I left, and I think I have been vindicated to an extent. We are entering a new realm of barbarianism and savagery.
Tell you what Zel, if it was Islam, I'll eat my hat and the first round is on me - doubles!
(04-17-2017 12:59 PM)Rigsby Wrote: Tell you what Zel, if it was Islam, I'll eat my hat and the first round is on me - doubles!
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(04-19-2017 03:25 PM)Rigsby Wrote:(04-17-2017 12:59 PM)Rigsby Wrote: Tell you what Zel, if it was Islam, I'll eat my hat and the first round is on me - doubles!
Well, looks like I can duck out of that first round. It was not Islam.
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(04-19-2017 11:48 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:(04-17-2017 12:59 PM)Rigsby Wrote:(04-17-2017 12:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Currently with most of those attacks you can assume the perpetrator to be Islam until proven innocent and it is actually some other group or lone psychopath. Specific attacks like car attacks are virtually 100% the domain of Islam - slaying children, women and pets.
The same goes for the wide application of acid attacks - this is a new enriching tradition in the UK.
I would disagree with you. With regard to it being Islam.
In this instance at least. In fact, in most instances, where we talk about 'those attacks' - I am assuming you are referring specifically to acid attacks.
The area where that took place is a hot-bed of multi-culturalism. You have a very large black population, but you also have turks and kurds, apart from indians and even some whites.
Using acid, or ammonia, is not a new tactic for gangs. It has been known about for decades. Some carry ammonia in a lemon jiffy container and call it 'squirt'. I don't know how the law is now, but for may years if you had a car and had that in the glove compartment, there was plausible deniability that you were using it to clean your windscreen.
Also, the use of corrosives is not an exclusively black or islam thing. Many whites know about this. There are some really nasty bastard whites as well, believe it or not, that would stab you and leave you for dead without a care in the world. But that area is predominantly black gang culture.
I used to live in London Fields (where this attack took place).
Just down the road is Clapton, otherwise known as the 'Murder Mile'. People get shot there all the time. It's a very nasty area, even Stoke Newington which is a hippy/lefty/muso/artist enclave can be troublesome at the wrong corner turn at the wrong time of night. It's not really an Islamic area though. Islam tends to behave itself when outnumbered by the even more vicious black gangs that pretty much rule everyone by their sheer numbers and ferocity.
The photo in the newpaper was that of a club with predominantly white people. It's true that the people of that area self-segregate. Whites don't go to black clubs, and most blacks don't go to white clubs. I'm not sure if I believe that photo, but I believe nothing from the press.
It may be that this was a white on white incident. Or more likely, a turk on kurd, or turk on white, or kurd on white attack. Generally speaking the kurds and the turks fight among themselves and white people get a pass. White people cause no trouble. They turn a blind eye when there is trouble. So they are not a threat. They are not involved in the heroin/drug trade as are the turks/kurds, so it's all good. The black gangs there tend to run more of the crack angle. Generalising of course, there is overlap.
The turks and kurds do fight with the blacks though, not just themselves.
Oh, I forgot to mention the biggest baddest gang at Stoke Newington police station - the police of course. They really don't like black people, and if you go in to the cop house there, and you are black, there is a good chance you won't come out. Absolutely frightening statistics of all those young buck blacks taking on the world, but suddenly, once in custody, deciding to throw themselves down the stairs, hang themselves, or just beat each other to death. You can find the statistics if you look, they are there. No prosecutions either, not one I don't think.
I think the most likely explanation is that the perp is known but it will never be said in public. It would cause too much outrage. There would be repercussions. It could very well be Islam, or a black gang member, a turk or a kurd, or even a white. The fact they have given no details shows us that they probably won't tell us now. This saves reprisals, but it also winds the public up, sows confusion and distrust and speculation, such as on this thread.
Someone in the community will know about this. This is how it works: in a weeks time, you will hear about another incident in the area. No one will know who did it of course, but it's just tit for tat. A week after that there will be more. If everyone is lucky, it dies down for a while until the next time. People are murdered every day there and you hear nothing about it. Blacks, kurds, turks, whites, all worthless and not worth mentioning.
But to blame this on Islam in the absence of all evidence, well, I would call that wild speculation. Does it matter at the end of the day? We all know how this story ends. The black gang and the kurd/turk gang warfare in East and North London are a separate issue, and one that is not going away. Islam is of course a problem as well, but very few of those mentioned subscribe to that particular death cult yet. They are too busy developing their own.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the Irish, but enough for now, let's just include them along with the whites I mentioned. Don't discount them though. Then again, I doubt they would ever use squirt or acid. They might shoot people or blow them up, but their mothers would give them a clip around their ears if they ever used such savagery.
It's been a while since I lived there. Things might have changed a lot. But I doubt they have changed for the better. I saw how it was all going when I left, and I think I have been vindicated to an extent. We are entering a new realm of barbarianism and savagery.
Tell you what Zel, if it was Islam, I'll eat my hat and the first round is on me - doubles!
Hackney in general is a savage area with a savage history. A few years ago An african family belonging to one of those back street churches ended up ritualistically sacrificing their 10 year old daughter in their council flat, very gruesome indeed. That is happened a few times over the years in Hackney and Tower Hamlets.
Dalston is supposed to be 'gentrified' like these other dumps such as Brixton and Peckham. The liberals love the edge of the place but they just self segregate themselves mostly, unless they venture to purchase drugs.
The amount of propaganda that the media and our culture has churned out over the years, to increase property prices in these areas is astonishing.
(04-19-2017 03:38 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: I did not know about the local customs of throwing acid around in gang-related or male-on-male attacks. Clearly the UK is an extreme anomaly. The majority of the bad acid attacks in London are centered in the Bangladeshi and Pakistani community and it is usually women who are the victims. This is also the case around the world with 80% of all attacks hitting women for something honor-related.
The UK seems to be bucking the trend and instead of exchanging punches like real men, the sissies throw acid in their faces like the little fucked-up faggots they are.
Well - I am always learning new things about the world.
What the fuck was this idiot thinking? Did he just copy some wannabe-gangsta stuff? Did he really think that CTV footage would not catch him in addition to scores of witnesses? Especially if he is somewhat known, then everyone there would recognize him.
(04-19-2017 03:51 PM)Rigsby Wrote:(04-19-2017 11:48 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:(04-17-2017 12:59 PM)Rigsby Wrote:(04-17-2017 12:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Currently with most of those attacks you can assume the perpetrator to be Islam until proven innocent and it is actually some other group or lone psychopath. Specific attacks like car attacks are virtually 100% the domain of Islam - slaying children, women and pets.
The same goes for the wide application of acid attacks - this is a new enriching tradition in the UK.
I would disagree with you. With regard to it being Islam.
In this instance at least. In fact, in most instances, where we talk about 'those attacks' - I am assuming you are referring specifically to acid attacks.
The area where that took place is a hot-bed of multi-culturalism. You have a very large black population, but you also have turks and kurds, apart from indians and even some whites.
Using acid, or ammonia, is not a new tactic for gangs. It has been known about for decades. Some carry ammonia in a lemon jiffy container and call it 'squirt'. I don't know how the law is now, but for may years if you had a car and had that in the glove compartment, there was plausible deniability that you were using it to clean your windscreen.
Also, the use of corrosives is not an exclusively black or islam thing. Many whites know about this. There are some really nasty bastard whites as well, believe it or not, that would stab you and leave you for dead without a care in the world. But that area is predominantly black gang culture.
I used to live in London Fields (where this attack took place).
Just down the road is Clapton, otherwise known as the 'Murder Mile'. People get shot there all the time. It's a very nasty area, even Stoke Newington which is a hippy/lefty/muso/artist enclave can be troublesome at the wrong corner turn at the wrong time of night. It's not really an Islamic area though. Islam tends to behave itself when outnumbered by the even more vicious black gangs that pretty much rule everyone by their sheer numbers and ferocity.
The photo in the newpaper was that of a club with predominantly white people. It's true that the people of that area self-segregate. Whites don't go to black clubs, and most blacks don't go to white clubs. I'm not sure if I believe that photo, but I believe nothing from the press.
It may be that this was a white on white incident. Or more likely, a turk on kurd, or turk on white, or kurd on white attack. Generally speaking the kurds and the turks fight among themselves and white people get a pass. White people cause no trouble. They turn a blind eye when there is trouble. So they are not a threat. They are not involved in the heroin/drug trade as are the turks/kurds, so it's all good. The black gangs there tend to run more of the crack angle. Generalising of course, there is overlap.
The turks and kurds do fight with the blacks though, not just themselves.
Oh, I forgot to mention the biggest baddest gang at Stoke Newington police station - the police of course. They really don't like black people, and if you go in to the cop house there, and you are black, there is a good chance you won't come out. Absolutely frightening statistics of all those young buck blacks taking on the world, but suddenly, once in custody, deciding to throw themselves down the stairs, hang themselves, or just beat each other to death. You can find the statistics if you look, they are there. No prosecutions either, not one I don't think.
I think the most likely explanation is that the perp is known but it will never be said in public. It would cause too much outrage. There would be repercussions. It could very well be Islam, or a black gang member, a turk or a kurd, or even a white. The fact they have given no details shows us that they probably won't tell us now. This saves reprisals, but it also winds the public up, sows confusion and distrust and speculation, such as on this thread.
Someone in the community will know about this. This is how it works: in a weeks time, you will hear about another incident in the area. No one will know who did it of course, but it's just tit for tat. A week after that there will be more. If everyone is lucky, it dies down for a while until the next time. People are murdered every day there and you hear nothing about it. Blacks, kurds, turks, whites, all worthless and not worth mentioning.
But to blame this on Islam in the absence of all evidence, well, I would call that wild speculation. Does it matter at the end of the day? We all know how this story ends. The black gang and the kurd/turk gang warfare in East and North London are a separate issue, and one that is not going away. Islam is of course a problem as well, but very few of those mentioned subscribe to that particular death cult yet. They are too busy developing their own.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the Irish, but enough for now, let's just include them along with the whites I mentioned. Don't discount them though. Then again, I doubt they would ever use squirt or acid. They might shoot people or blow them up, but their mothers would give them a clip around their ears if they ever used such savagery.
It's been a while since I lived there. Things might have changed a lot. But I doubt they have changed for the better. I saw how it was all going when I left, and I think I have been vindicated to an extent. We are entering a new realm of barbarianism and savagery.
Tell you what Zel, if it was Islam, I'll eat my hat and the first round is on me - doubles!
Hackney in general is a savage area with a savage history. A few years ago An african family belonging to one of those back street churches ended up ritualistically sacrificing their 10 year old daughter in their council flat, very gruesome indeed. That is happened a few times over the years in Hackney and Tower Hamlets.
Dalston is supposed to be 'gentrified' like these other dumps such as Brixton and Peckham. The liberals love the edge of the place but they just self segregate themselves mostly, unless they venture to purchase drugs.
The amount of propaganda that the media and our culture has churned out over the years, to increase property prices in these areas is astonishing.
When I was homeless, I ended up there, on a mate's couch. I went in to a gay bar, not knowing it was a gay bar, of course, but somehow, the pink velvet wallpaper spoke to me. I was reading the Rum Diary by HST and ordered Rums accordingly. Pretty soon I cottoned on.
But not before I got picked up by a lipstick lesbian. That's right. Yours truly got picked up in a fucking gay boy bar by a fucking lesbo. She wasn't half bad too. They don't call them lipstick lesbians for nothing.
Forgive me while I drift down memory lane again.
She showed me a good time. Bought me drinks. I told her my situation. Why don't I come back to hers, she's got a spare room? And what a room and house it was. Prime Real estate. Million quid's worth prolly, or half a mill. Who's counting. It was bricks and mortar slap bang in the centre of Stokey. Anyone who lived there at the time will know of Stokey de Niro - a poor imposter of old Robbie. A figure of fun. A lol cow. But he had protection. I digress.
Stokey was full of indie bands and I was more of the drug-fuelled techno drum and bass scene. They didn't like our kind. But little did they know I could do what they do. Music didn't come in to it. But it taught me what a lot of little bitches most musicians are.
The girly I was staying with that helped me out had had one of her sons knocked down on the road a year earlier, dead. He left a brother a year older than him. I felt the pain. She was a fucking wreck. I don't think she was a lesbo at all. She was just looking for a real man. She introduced me to her friend: big black tony. Tony was indeed very big and very black and even a bit mad. He looked a bit like that fella from the matrix. He told me took look after his little sister. I told him I would. Gulp. Yes. Most definitely.
We went out and saw some crap bands, ate food in Indian restaurants, went to parties with famous people of the day that fed on the adulation of the bohemians and the wanderers.
All the time, I'd check in with the kids. Always a sombre mood. A brother had lost a brother. There was no laughter. It was heavy as fuck. It's not like you try to make a situation like that lighter. You just go with it. They were kind to me. I don't think they saw me as some kind of threat. They knew how damaged their mum was. They knew I wouldn't last. And they were right.
I'll leave it there. She sold her house for a very pretty penny. I had a chance to marry her, that is how in love with me she was. But I turned her down, and that is when the nastiness started. I got out just in time. Women scorned....
I saw her a year or two later around Walthamstow - I called out to her by name. She heard me. But she kept walking. Shell she was. A ghost. No hard feelings. Losing an 18 year old son to a drunk driver can hit a woman hard. She didn't handle it well. And I don't judge her for that.
I kept walking, back to my fate, also a ghost. To live and fight another day. I can't be with a woman and be a ponce or a pimp or a free-loader. I could have helped her, but she was too far gone. I got the fuck out of dodge in time.
Shame, what a house. All at the time, well, you know the average house around Dalston or Stokey, Balls-Pond Road etc. etc.
She wasn't even a bad person. I suffered a very bad life-threatening injury around that time. I have the scars on my head to prove it, along with all the other scars. It was just too much for her, as well.
One day I'll tell you all about the Irish Pub and the gangsters running it and the Polish scrubbers that came to quite a position of prominence in the pecking order.
Fucking indie guitar wankers in the pubs thinking they were the bee's knees. All under their noses, and it totally passed them by.
Stoke Newington Cemetery on a Sunday afternoon in the sunlight of a summer day, is one of life's great pleasures though. If you are in London, I would heartily recommend it.
Lipstick lesbians in the gay bars around town, not so much. :-)
(04-17-2017 09:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsn...z4e2aZ0KRo
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Why the quotation marks under Islamist? Maybe they should just say true believing pious Muslim.
I am sure that they will kill many more Germans who will be all defiant in the face of terror.
(04-21-2017 06:34 AM)Rossi Wrote: Let's hear from Zelcorpion today.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...hare-slump
http://news.sky.com/story/borussia-dortm...e-10844626
http://www.dw.com/en/police-arrest-man-s...a-38527279
What happened with the ISIS letter by Dortmund bus, Zelcorpion? Enlighten us little.
You seem very quiet today.
I told you, not to jump to conclusion. I would love to hear your opinion on this today.
(04-18-2017 01:44 PM)weambulance Wrote: ^
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(04-18-2017 01:44 PM)weambulance Wrote: Diversity is strength. Diversity is strength. Diversity is strength. Diversity is strength.
Relevant...tweeted by the official VP of EU commission. Hours before the latest terror attack in France.
(04-21-2017 06:57 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote: First of all I am not quiet. First I hear from this - I don't watch mainstream news.
Seriously Rossi - one day after another ISIS lover goes on a killing spree you trump up one incident which is frankly bizarre? Really?
Yes - the incident is the 0,01% probability I cited.
Actually I said madman as an option, but it turns out to be even more bizarre of a strange short-selling scheme where the idiots went short Borussia stock and then bombed the bus to cause serious harm, thus making money that way.
This is bizarre beyond belief and I will agree that the 0,01% opportunity hit.

(04-21-2017 12:50 PM)atlant Wrote: None of the signs with the Dortmund bus attack pointed to ISIS or Muslims, so yeah, Rossi is right. However, in the investigation process they did dig up that Iraqi ISIS extremist who should have been in prison years ago. That was a significant scandal that was swept under the rug quickly. In the end really no side came out looking good - Media, conservatives, leftists, police. Sometimes you just get thrown a curve ball.
Quote:On the very same enriching day of the Paris attacks there was also a machete wielding AllahuAkbarian who was shot down by Dutch cops in the Netherlands: