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Zelcorpion · 2016-11-24 13:20:00 · #12351
(11-24-2016 08:30 AM)redpillage Wrote:  German and French women have basically been permitted to destroy our nation states by refusing to breed and to provide us with our genetic future. Of course that is assuming that we want to maintain our current population numbers. In essence there would have been no problem with a reduction in population, except that it does not serve the power of the elites. It is not coincidence that our civilization started to crumble the second birth control was introduced in the 1960s. All the problems we discuss in the manosphere today roots back to that single moment in time.

The world was constantly being bombarded with change. The only period the globalists let loose a bit and did not do much social engineering was from the 1940s to the late 1950s. 1960s brought not only the pill, it brought increased feminism, seperation of the generations (don't trust anyone above 30), "fuck the establishment", rebel without a cause, free love, drug culture, hippie movement (plenty of reporst that some of the main proponents of that movement were army and CIA staff - those big communies in California were sometimes paid by government grants).

This did not just "happen" - women are destroyers of civilization if run free for sure, but the globalists know that. They also know that the Muslims will conquer in the West given enough time. But they have no intention for Europe and the US to become a caliphate or an Islamist shithole. This will NEVER EVER EVER HAPPEN.

Yes - it keeps the marxists in power later on, but it will also wipe out the marxists later on when the war comes.

You really have to read more about them and their plans. I recently read a funny comment at a site where someone said that Zionists were too weak in the 1950s and did not have an influence on the US. This betrays an utter misunderstanding of the big plan and the globalist elite. They were already well under way in the year 1800. In truth they could give up the charade of democracy and out themselves, but that would immedietely be followed by a revolt of the people. So we will keep on the secret charade for a while longer until there is literally no one there to revolt. And even then will they probably be unaware of who rules them. Brave New World clearly said so and Aldous Huxley and his family are part of the scientific globalist elite who serve the money families.

Resistence is not futile, but it will take much more than voting in someone.
SamuelBRoberts · 2016-11-24 13:25:00 · #12352
(11-24-2016 08:30 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The good news is that political change will happen, it's unavoidable especially now that the Left in Germany and the rest of W. Europe has decided to double down. The bad news is that it's way too late. At best the fledgling anti-globalists will gain some percentages in the next election but it won't be enough. The Marxist know how to play the game too well and let's not forget that we have already lost the battle of demographics. Give it ten more years and white children in W. Europe will be a rapidly diminishing minority. EVEN IF we see a political miracle and the Right takes majority in Germany (very very doubtful) it would most likely only last one administration. They do not have the resources and the willpower of the Donald. For German standards they may be fringe neo-Nazis but for American standards they are still bleeding liberals who 'just want the old country back'. They are not the type who is prepared to use force to quell antifa resistance against political measures taken. They have become 'verweichlicht' (grown soft) as the Germans say, and as such they are doomed.

What is your special insight into the German soul that makes you so certain of this? Have you spent a lot of time in various parts of the country there? How many German friends do you have, and what are their thoughts on this?
Irenicus · 2016-11-24 14:27:00 · #12353
(11-24-2016 01:20 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:30 AM)redpillage Wrote:  German and French women have basically been permitted to destroy our nation states by refusing to breed and to provide us with our genetic future. Of course that is assuming that we want to maintain our current population numbers. In essence there would have been no problem with a reduction in population, except that it does not serve the power of the elites. It is not coincidence that our civilization started to crumble the second birth control was introduced in the 1960s. All the problems we discuss in the manosphere today roots back to that single moment in time.

The world was constantly being bombarded with change. The only period the globalists let loose a bit and did not do much social engineering was from the 1940s to the late 1950s. 1960s brought not only the pill, it brought increased feminism, seperation of the generations (don't trust anyone above 30), "fuck the establishment", rebel without a cause, free love, drug culture, hippie movement (plenty of reporst that some of the main proponents of that movement were army and CIA staff - those big communies in California were sometimes paid by government grants).

This did not just "happen" - women are destroyers of civilization if run free for sure, but the globalists know that. They also know that the Muslims will conquer in the West given enough time. But they have no intention for Europe and the US to become a caliphate or an Islamist shithole. This will NEVER EVER EVER HAPPEN.

Yes - it keeps the marxists in power later on, but it will also wipe out the marxists later on when the war comes.

You really have to read more about them and their plans. I recently read a funny comment at a site where someone said that Zionists were too weak in the 1950s and did not have an influence on the US. This betrays an utter misunderstanding of the big plan and the globalist elite. They were already well under way in the year 1800. In truth they could give up the charade of democracy and out themselves, but that would immedietely be followed by a revolt of the people. So we will keep on the secret charade for a while longer until there is literally no one there to revolt. And even then will they probably be unaware of who rules them. Brave New World clearly said so and Aldous Huxley and his family are part of the scientific globalist elite who serve the money families.

Resistence is not futile, but it will take much more than voting in someone.


So basically, what you believe that might happen is:



1. Immigration keeps increasing, and with it, terrorist attacks

2. Europeans getting pissed, and dissenting ---> we are at this stage

3. Mass unrest, ending with deportations (or worse).

4. Passing of laws that will, in order to give "security", instead take away all the freedom.

5. Brave New World


?
Zelcorpion · 2016-11-24 14:44:00 · #12354
(11-24-2016 02:27 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  So basically, what you believe that might happen is:



1. Immigration keeps increasing, and with it, terrorist attacks

They want terror to stay for decades. This will not stop until total control is here.

2. Europeans getting pissed, and dissenting ---> we are at this stage

So what? They vote in anti-immigration parties or anti-globalization parties. Most of those when given a chance have betrayed the people as soon as they were in power. This happened in Greece and it will happen again. But the West may shift ever more nationalistic - though that is only relative, since globalism will march on and Redpillage is right - after a time you cannot even vote yourself out, because the immigrants will vote as one block while the locals will be divided. That is how London got a Muslim mayor.

3. Mass unrest, ending with deportations (or worse).

No deportations of any large scale in the West - ever. Unrest yes, but that is no problem.

4. Passing of laws that will, in order to give "security", instead take away all the freedom.

There are two options here for that to pass - everyone chipped kind of surveillance:

a) totalitarian police state for security - almost everything being recorded about anyone - that would make wide terror almost impossible
b) WWIII with Islam - West & China vs Islam & Russia (which I expect to tilt Muslim - they have a 13% Muslim population and not 6,5% as reported - the military has an even higher number of them serving). Islam and Russia destroyed.

5. Brave New World

Yes - the end - just scientific advancement of humans not being born, but created in a fully controlled system that has one world culture.

?


The questionmark is whether they can make it happen. I personally don't see anything stopping them except something bizarre like an Alien armada that stupidly does not exterminate the human population, but just wishes to add the Earth market to their consumer-worker-intergalactic usury empire. If you have usury you need to grow infinitely - one way is by conquering other more advanced species and voila you got 7 billion more taxpayers, workers and consumers.

Frankly all other reasons for conquest by a species are ridiculous like in the new Independence Day - they destroy inhabitated planets because they need the earth core for energy? Seriously? Why bother with a planet that will fight back? Why not take uninhabitable planets?

But I digress - except for this I see the globalists only being dethroned if their ruling cycle runs it's course and the people rise up in unison. But frankly when Brave New World is completed it would really have to be eliminated via major errors.

Redpillage is right - how many men even here have studied the globalist writings and taken a good hard look? As much as I like Samseau and his predictions they really think that Trump is going to save the world.

This will not happen. This group has been working for centuries now and one measly election should take it all away from them? No way Hose.
redpillage · 2016-11-24 18:01:00 · #12355
(11-24-2016 09:41 AM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  You are being too defeatist Redpillage.

Careful now - you don't want to start labeling people here. This is not the Huffpost. Just because someone is not optimistic about a situation doesn't mean he's a defeatist. I think I have offered a pretty objective analysis of the situation at hand. And for the record - all my predictions over the past two years have come true. How long have you been following this thread?

(11-24-2016 09:41 AM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  What do you want us all to do? It is over so we should just all kill ourselves ? Better to discuss things that we can do than can improve and help us. We should not sugarcoat the situation absolutely, but posts like 'it is already over nothing can be done' help nobody.

Oh, I have offered concrete steps on what to do on many occasions, you just didn't read them. You show up here, read ONE of my posts (I have posted over 1000) and then immediately jump to a lot of conclusions. Seems to me you're irate because you're not reading what you were hoping to hear.

The only problem is that we are a tiny group and the Left continues to run Europe into the ground on a daily basis. The window of opportunity for a reversal has long passed. What you CAN do is to get yourself a second passport for one and learn as many languages as you can.

You tell ME how we can reverse the demographic developments across Western Europe. How are natives going to reverse this train wreck if there are none of them left? Anyway, I have offered very concrete points on the situation here on many occasions and I'm not willing to spend another hour regurgitating them. FWIW - this is the problem with long ongoing threads. New readers come in and just follow the recent posts. There are countless valuable contributions that I and several fellow members here have taken much time to write. It's quite insulting to see you ignore all that and claim I'm some type of doom monger.

(11-24-2016 09:41 AM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  Europeans are still in the majority in Western Europe and will always be, this nationalist wave saved them just in time. Germany i am not so sure because the rot may be too deep there but i still see Germany surviving, atleast part of it. Most nationalist parties in Europe (who are leading big) already talk about deportations and banning islam.

Laugh5

Sorry mate, not to be insensitive to your optimistic nature, but I think you're heading for a huge disappointment. Just wait for next year's elections in Germany and then we'll talk.

(11-24-2016 09:41 AM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  Unfortunately, i think in the end it will come down to civil war and eventual violent removal. They will not leave in peace. And when the time comes, Europeans will not want them to leave in peace. They will want to see blood.

[Image: dutchmen.jpg]

Yes yes, the blood letting will be unimaginable. Just look at this guys, they itching at the chance to join the battle (or perhaps it's the scratchy skirts).

(11-24-2016 09:41 AM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  You also have to remember a very high percentage of immigrants to Western Europe are actually Eastern European. Yes we are not German or Dutch but we are not that different from each other in all aspects and we will fight with you against the muslims and africans when the time comes, no doubt.

Any multicultural, multiracial, diverse empire will come down one day. Just look at what happened here with Yugoslavia.

I'm quite aware of what happened in Yugoslavia. I actually visited the country in 1982 when it was still communist, yes I'm go way back. Even then as a young kid I could see the unhappiness and frustration in people's faces. Loved the countrysides but didn't like the people much.

(11-24-2016 09:41 AM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  People that used to be neighbours, friends. People that used to have dinner and barbecue together. People that brought their kids to play with each other.

And then just a little while later, those same people were shooting and beheading each other, raping their wives and daughters and performing the most barbaric and brutal acts possible.

And we were basically people of the same blood.

Except that one half was Bosnian Muslims - teeny weeny detail you left out. It doesn't matter if one side has you over for dinner. For Muslims any Christian or person of a different fate will always be a kafir, an unbeliever. And as such their religion instructs them to hate and kill us in the name of jihad.
leanmeansexmachine · 2016-11-24 19:08:00 · #12356
I have gone through this thread many times and read your posts. In quite a few of them, you frequently state that it is all over.. I say it is not. Not a critique, just a slight observation. Do not be so triggered.

Defeatism is not what put your hero Trump in the white house. It was action, positivity and energy. And like i also said, we should not sugarcoat things.

I jumped the gun earlier this year aswell when i said Western Europe was done, but the thing is, this is what the elites want. They want us to be demoralized and not fight back. There are still more than enough Europeans in Western Europe to turn things around. Germany is as i said, probably largely done for. But Brexit and the rise of the right wing parties elsewhere throughout Europe are positive signs.

About those guys in the picture. Those cucks are worth nothing and are not taken seriously by anyone. And i think the majority of other European men will agree. Except for some leftis antifa cucks. The media ofcourse loved this.

Good video by angry foreigner. Serbian guy in Sweden. One of the few but powerful voices in Sweden doing real talk.





By the way, i am the last guy that needs to be red-pilled about islam. When it is time to remove the kebab, i will be the first in line.
Rocha · 2016-11-24 19:13:00 · #12357
(11-24-2016 07:08 PM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  Good video by angry foreigner. Serbian guy in Sweden. One of the few but powerful voices in Sweden doing real talk.

Ah OK, now it is explained. No swede would dare to speak like this.
Edelweiss · 2016-11-24 19:34:00 · #12358
(11-24-2016 01:25 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:30 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The good news is that political change will happen, it's unavoidable especially now that the Left in Germany and the rest of W. Europe has decided to double down. The bad news is that it's way too late. At best the fledgling anti-globalists will gain some percentages in the next election but it won't be enough. The Marxist know how to play the game too well and let's not forget that we have already lost the battle of demographics. Give it ten more years and white children in W. Europe will be a rapidly diminishing minority. EVEN IF we see a political miracle and the Right takes majority in Germany (very very doubtful) it would most likely only last one administration. They do not have the resources and the willpower of the Donald. For German standards they may be fringe neo-Nazis but for American standards they are still bleeding liberals who 'just want the old country back'. They are not the type who is prepared to use force to quell antifa resistance against political measures taken. They have become 'verweichlicht' (grown soft) as the Germans say, and as such they are doomed.

What is your special insight into the German soul that makes you so certain of this? Have you spent a lot of time in various parts of the country there? How many German friends do you have, and what are their thoughts on this?

I have lived in Germany for over a year. I still go there regularly. It's in the Frankfurt area.

All I can't tell you is that I am disgusted every time I step out of the airport.

Manginas, Antifas, Feminists, hipsters, spaghetti-armed men, weaklings, vegans...are the norm.

Almost every cafe or restaurant has either a rainbow flag, a refugees welcome sticker, a anti-nazi-anti-racist- anti-AFD-anti intolerance poster...

The air smells of decadence.

I have friends in Berlin (Berlin is the worse offender) but they say that in East Berlin, neo-Nazis are becoming more vocal.

But I don't trust them when labeling anyone as Neo-Nazi though. They are probably patriots sick of what is happening.

More than half the Germans support Merkel for a 4th term. That says a lot.
Her probable opponent ? Schultz, the current president of the EU parliament.
So the question is: who will destroy Germany better: a man or woman ?
Samseau · 2016-11-24 20:11:00 · #12359
(11-24-2016 02:44 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  As much as I like Samseau and his predictions they really think that Trump is going to save the world.

This will not happen. This group has been working for centuries now and one measly election should take it all away from them? No way Hose.

First of all, you give these global banksters way too much credit. Planning things out over hundreds of years is extremely difficult. There's no telling what kind of degeneracy or problems the bankster families will have. You make it sound like their kids will be ready to carry on with whatever plan their parents had, when in fact there is no such guarantee. You also make it sound like their kids will be as talented and nefarious as their parents, which, again, there is no guarantee.

They are not invincible, they are human like everyone else. They got tons of money, I'll give them that. And that counts for a shit ton. But there is always more to the equation, and nothing lasts forever.

Second, Trump is definitely fucking up their plans for America, so even if Europe is doomed America will continue on. Like I said at the start of this thread, I view America as the Byzantine Empire that continues on after the other half of the Civilized White World falls into a dark age.

That said, Trump is going to halt the wars in the middle east and build safe zones for the refugees there, which in theory is going to cut off a lot of Muslims flooding into Europe. Trump will also embolden European nations to cut off the migrant flows. NATO itself could be transformed into stopping migrants from entering Europe and instead staying in Africa.

If the migrant flows halt, then Europe is going to be fine for a lot longer. It may still eventually die, but instead of collapsing in 20 years they are now looking at least 40 years or more.

My predictions have no changed other than their timing. Trump is a giant roadblock in the Banksters way. The USA in particular is not going to fall as easily as Europe. Britain, also, should be able to leave the EU with Trump in power, and if they curb immigration they will outlast the rest of Europe. Sweden is still fucked though, I think the people there have lost their minds. Germany will fracture if Merkel keeps flying in the Muslims by the hundreds of thousands. France may elect Marine Le Pen but we shall see.

Stopping migrant flows is not enough, there needs to be a revival of birthrates as well. It doesn't look good for them because the men are massive pussies. Western Europe has a lot to overcome. America on the other hand has plenty of masculine men, with guns, who will fight to the death before this migrant bullshit happens. America is good for at least 100 years. Europe looks like shit but Trump is going to buy them some time.
iknowexactly · 2016-11-24 23:12:00 · #12360
(11-24-2016 08:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 02:44 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
... halt the wars in the middle east and build safe zones for the refugees there, which in theory is going to cut off a lot of Muslims flooding into Europe. Trump will also embolden European nations to cut off the migrant flows

Safe zones are positive way for win-win solution far, far easier to sell to the ~70% of Europeans it will take to decisively reverse current open borders policy than name-calling them "cucks, Marxists" and the like.

"PROTECT THEM AT HOME. DON'T FORCE REFUGEES INTO EXILE. SMUGGLERS = DROWNINGS"

http://imgur.com/ue8U8dC

There's a thousand ways to market the "safe zone" approach, and you add in the footnotes block the smuggler boats at the shore "for the safety of the refugees." Paint the smugglers as predatory drug dealer types. But that takes work.

I'm the classical liberal that is close to what a lot of educated Europeans are. As a result, I'm aware of the centuries of violence Islam has perpetrated, but I don't go for negative solutions.* I only recently studied the last 1400 years of Islamic crudeness after 10 years of publicity re their bombings. ISIS atrocities have highlighted the Medieval, delusional nature of Islamic Hadiths, and the Pew studies have shown a lot of sympathy for idiotic, anti-liberal beliefs amongst Muslims.

Formulating coherent policy, and advocating takes work but you're long-horizon, hard-working Euro-Culture types that want to do that, right?

Really the key issue from a logistics POV is preventing those boats from getting to Europe; and politics necessarily means keeping them from departing Africa, because mainstream people can not tolerate mass drownings of anyone. This has been proven to work for Australia.

Think salable policy.

The people that are called names function well in their jobs, they like and are liked by the people around them. They just want to be cooperative because it has worked for them in their life.

They're not aware Ickystan Muslims tend to narrow minded, Islamic Medieval mentality, prone to blood feuds, nepotism, cousin marriage, and eye-for-an-eye. They don't understand the way demographics works-- once the camel gets its nose in the tent it never wants to go back to the Ickystans.

But in business terms, that mainstream soft person is your customer.

(11-24-2016 08:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  . NATO itself could be transformed into stopping migrants from entering Europe and instead staying in Africa.

A possibility. But first you've got to have a salably positive product to sell, something besides "they're demons and you're a idiot for letting them in." Something that takes more work.

Islam and National Socialism have similar ignorant supremacist beliefs. At least Hitler thought so.

*From Wikipedia:
"According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[228]
Also, he didn't think much of religious-freedomed America:"

“I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”

The USA held together better than yours did, for about 70 more years now. And the Jews are doing great.
Samseau · 2016-11-25 00:12:00 · #12361
You would think Europussies could accept building safe zones, but no, if you even suggest that anything less than complete migration with full housing and welfare for life you are a racist.

I'll never forget one German girl when I asked her about the migrant invasion, and asked her "Don't you think it's really expensive to move all of these people from the Middle East to Germany?" She turned away and refused to speak with me again. The brainwashing is deep, the women are retarded, and the men are laughably weak. Even if you bring up the subject to men they give off nervous laughter and quickly change the subject.
Leonard D Neubache · 2016-11-25 00:37:00 · #12362
(11-24-2016 11:12 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  ...
Really the key issue from a logistics POV is preventing those boats from getting to Europe; and politics necessarily means keeping them from departing Africa, because mainstream people can not tolerate mass drownings of anyone. This has been proven to work for Australia.
...

From the full breadth and depth of my personal experience speaking with many Australians and following comments sections on media stories where they still exist, terrorists drowning at sea pulls very few heart strings here any more.

The idea that people here give enough of a shit about the lives of those invaders to change their vote is a complete propaganda fabrication of the MSM.

Polls routinely show that the white collar right through to the blue collar left that make up the vast majority of the Australian population don't give a shit about the fate of the invaders.

"Stop the boats" was simply more humanitarian than "feed them to the sharks" but the reality is that most Australians would have accepted either.
Rocket75 · 2016-11-25 04:20:00 · #12363
Quote:"Anyway, I hope this video will be of some help and that perhaps some small dim lightbulb in the back of that stunted growth you call a mind, will help you understand that behind the sunny multicultural smiles and the positive buzzwords like tolerance and diversity, that you are in fact about as welcome in Europe as an avalanche of toxic medical waste"


Utterly brilliant video from a man known as Pat Condell.

Very well spoken, very articulate. The video runs for 10 minutes, his delivery is perfect.



Paracelsus · 2016-11-25 05:02:00 · #12364
(11-25-2016 12:37 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:12 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  ...
Really the key issue from a logistics POV is preventing those boats from getting to Europe; and politics necessarily means keeping them from departing Africa, because mainstream people can not tolerate mass drownings of anyone. This has been proven to work for Australia.
...

From the full breadth and depth of my personal experience speaking with many Australians and following comments sections on media stories where they still exist, terrorists drowning at sea pulls very few heart strings here any more.

The idea that people here give enough of a shit about the lives of those invaders to change their vote is a complete propaganda fabrication of the MSM.

Polls routinely show that the white collar right through to the blue collar left that make up the vast majority of the Australian population don't give a shit about the fate of the invaders.

"Stop the boats" was simply more humanitarian than "feed them to the sharks" but the reality is that most Australians would have accepted either.

Can confirm. The moment they put the offshore solution (back) in place, not only did the boats stop coming, but the people stopped giving a shit about it -- because the MSM and the refugee activists couldn't easily get pictures anymore.
Dalaran1991 · 2016-11-25 05:11:00 · #12365
(11-24-2016 08:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  If the migrant flows halt, then Europe is going to be fine for a lot longer. It may still eventually die, but instead of collapsing in 20 years they are now looking at least 40 years or more.

I'm not even sure if this is a good thing....

Being in Paris surrounded by all this ignorance and idiocy I dont think another 40 years of this would do any good. I feel like for Europe to be rebirthed the degeneracy will have to go full tilt, and from the ashes we rebuild. Sure I will lose the great vineyards of France but if that means I get to bath in liberal tears then so be it.
amity · 2016-11-25 06:03:00 · #12366
(11-25-2016 12:12 AM)Samseau Wrote:  You would think Europussies could accept building safe zones, but no, if you even suggest that anything less than complete migration with full housing and welfare for life you are a racist.

I'll never forget one German girl when I asked her about the migrant invasion, and asked her "Don't you think it's really expensive to move all of these people from the Middle East to Germany?" She turned away and refused to speak with me again. The brainwashing is deep, the women are retarded, and the men are laughably weak. Even if you bring up the subject to men they give off nervous laughter and quickly change the subject.

Because the Germans, especially the women, are so deeply incoctrinated in "Egalitarianism", the beliefs go like so:
Everyone should be able to live wherever they want and if that means Europe, then we have to take them all in and look after them and pay for them, it's our moral duty as good people, as Westerners, to give these poor despaerate people, as good a life as us
There is zero thoughts about the long term, zero considerations for the impact on society, on taxes, on pensions, on social services, on social trust, on crime, on the danger to young women and kids.
They don't think about this because they don't have to, doubly so for young European women, who are the most lauded demographic in society today.
I have spoken to quite a few women in their 20s and 30s from these countries, not just Germans, also Scandinavians, Spanish, Swiss, even Greeks, almost all Western European women and young femininised men(which is the majority under 30 I would say) in these countries, this is what they believe, it's part of who they are, it's their identity in a sense, a badge of honour.
The 'Kein Mensch ist illegal' mindset is rampant in young European people, maybe not explicitly, but it's there, just underneath the surface, and will be brought out for virtue signalling purposes every so often on Facebook and Instagram.

@Samseau, were it me in your shoes, I would try to frame it like this the next time you're talking to someone like that
"You know, it's great to be able to help these people, they sure have a rougher time than us in the countries they come from, the problem is the effects this will have going forward. I worry about how this will effect old people here, not just Germans, the Turkish and others too who have been here for decades and worked hard, the pensioners who are just getting by, their money will be cut, they will have to wait much longer for vital care and operations, maybe they cannot afford to pay for heating, some will die prematurely, in pain, shivering, cold suffering, nobody should have to suffer like this, it's not right, they don't deserve this, but I really worry about these old people, it's going to be really tough for them"

<Throw in an emotional example of somebody old you know who did some great deeds in their day and ended up poor and destitute, unable to pay for food and heating, the more emotions the better, this is what girls get off on, if they can picture the scene and feel the emotions of the poor old person, it will get into their head and they might just start to 'get it' and the first seeds of awakening, of uncuckening might be planted>

You could also move onto kids and how they will be affected too, as we know most women love a good sob story involving kids, it really pushes the emotional buttons.

So, to recap -> old people and kids, these are your go to demographics to use as leverage, use emotional stories, pathos, drama, paint pictures in their heads, I think this is the only way to get these impressionable young women to think beyond the current moment.
Zelcorpion · 2016-11-25 07:37:00 · #12367
Hehe -

DHL has stopped deliveries in parts of Berlin due to rapefugee attacks:

http://newobserveronline.com/berlin-inva...eliveries/

[Image: DHL-Berlin.jpg]

http://www.rbb-online.de/panorama/beitra...rfall.html

Maybe an Islamic ISIS-loving delivery service can take care of their business?

And the cops keep busting various terrorist plots:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7362...k-arrested

Another "Syrian" arrested for already compiling explosive materials:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7362...k-arrested

[Image: Syria-736254.jpg]

Those buggers don't realize that cops and secret services have everything under surveillance and solid planning would have to be taken completely off-line. But I am sure that the some group will succeed soon enough and the Eiffel Tower can be lit in the next national emblems while everyone repeats that Islam is a religion of peace and has always been that way:

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redpillage · 2016-11-25 08:07:00 · #12368
Just saw this on Bloomberg. Once again the MSM is ruling out the nationalist Marine Le Pen in favor of the 'conservatives' Alain Juppe or Francois Fillon. If one of those two in fact becomes president I would expect more of the same as any anti-Islamic rhetoric ahead of the election is only aimed at defeating Le Pen. The Republicans in France are as corrupt as the Socialists and nothing would change whatsoever.

Quote:France Needs Someone to Stop Le Pen

On Sunday, France’s Republican Party will choose its candidate for the presidential election next spring. Opinion polls say that the Republicans are so far ahead that the party, in effect, is about to name the next president -- either Alain Juppe or Francois Fillon, former prime ministers offering not-too-dissimilar conservative programs.

The polls, for once, had better be right. The likely alternative to either of those men would be disastrous -- and not just for France.

Support for the Socialist party has collapsed: President Francois Hollande’s approval rating stands (if that’s the right word) at 4 percent. So the Republican nominee is likely to face Marine Le Pen, leader of the populist National Front. She’s France’s answer to Donald Trump, except with more self-discipline, added xenophobia and a clearer sense of purpose. If she wins, the European Union would be badly and perhaps fatally wounded. By comparison, Brexit would be a minor nuisance.

Le Pen celebrated Britain’s vote to quit last June as the beginning of the end for the EU -- a project she’s called “objectively a total failure.” An EU without France, which designed and built the EU alongside Germany, is objectively a hard thing to imagine. A National Front victory would shake Europe more violently than Trump’s win has rocked the U.S.

The polls suggest that either Fillon or Juppe ought to beat her easily -- but there are many unknowns. It’s unclear who will stand for the Socialists, for example, or whether Emmanuel Macron (who quit the government earlier this year and leads a new party) will gather strong support. Right now, though, the threat from Le Pen looks real.

Q&A: Francois Fillon

Fillon did surprisingly well in the first round of the primary, and seems well-placed to beat Juppe for the nomination -- which is good, because he’d be the stronger rival to Le Pen. Compared with Juppe, he’s no friend of multiculturalism or the European Commission. He takes a hard line on “Islamic totalitarianism.” He says immigrants should assimilate, wants to curb immigration from outside the union, and proposes to reform (though not dismantle) the EU’s system for borderless intra-EU travel. This puts him in a better position to stop conservative support from leaching to Le Pen.

Fillon’s proposed tough-love economic reforms -- including labor-market deregulation -- also have the advantage of being just what France needs. The country may even be ready for them.

Le Pen isn’t Europe’s only populist insurgent, and dealing with this dangerous swelling of discontent isn’t a job for French politicians alone. The EU’s other member governments and institutions need to recognize the doubts that many citizens have about the project. Without pandering or surrendering, they need to show they’re listening. Ignoring these worries failed with Brexit. The union cannot afford to make the same mistake with France.

To contact the senior editor responsible for Bloomberg View’s editorials: David Shipley at [email protected]
redpillage · 2016-11-25 08:26:00 · #12369
2,000 migrants clash with police, set Bulgaria's largest refugee center on fire. Copied below but check the link as it contains some videos I was unable to embed.

Quote:Law enforcement and riot police have been deployed to Bulgaria's largest migrant and refugee camp, located in the town of Harmanli, after violence erupted in the center. Inhabitants damaged the facility setting the premises on fire.
More than 2,000 people clashed with police at the camp in southern Bulgaria, close to the Turkish border, on Thursday, local news agency Novinite reported, citing Bulgarian National Radio (BNR).

The Harmanli camp, which is the largest in the country, houses some 3,000 people, mostly from Afghanistan, according to Reuters.

Some 250 police officers, firefighters and gendarmerie were deployed to the scene, local police spokeswoman Nina Nikolova told AFP. Protesters threw stones and other objects at law enforcement, who had to deploy water cannon to disperse the angry crowd.

The migrants burnt car tires, and set mattresses and furniture alight in several of the camp's buildings. Many structures, including a canteen and a new building which was supposed to open this week were damaged.

There have been no reports of arrests or of any injuries, while Bulgaria's interior ministry spokeswoman told Reuters the situation had been brought under control. "Negotiations between the authorities and the protesters are underway," she said.


The riot was reportedly caused by a quarantine, with the Harmanli camp having been sealed off following reports of skin disease outbreaks among its residents. Migrants were protesting against the temporary restrictions on leaving the center.

Officials placed the facility under quarantine after locals from the nearby town staged a protest following reports that people from the camp carried communicable skin diseases. The head of the Bulgarian Refugee Agency, which runs the camp, later said reports of the infection were false and "artificially created tension."

"We have been alarming about the problems – including health and routine issues there for such a long time. When they [officials] are neglecting the problem and only boast how much work they have done, this is the outcome we should expect," the politician told the media, as cited by FOCUS News Agency.

Bulgaria, the EU's poorest member state, has toughened its border controls to decrease the flows of illegal migrants. A security fence was built on its border with Turkey, while some 17,000 migrants have been detained since the start of the year, according to Reuters. Yet, Bulgarian nationalists have staged a number of protests recently, saying the country cannot support migrants even in lower numbers.
redpillage · 2016-11-25 08:34:00 · #12370
Migrant centre EXPLOSIONS: Violence between locals and migrants SHUTS DOWN Italian city:

Quote:Violence erupted outside a former Olympic village accommodation where 1,300 migrants are being housed in Italy.

Long-standing tensions between local residents and migrants broke out on Wednesday night when two explosions were set off just outside the migrant centre in Turin.

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The powerful explosions were strong enough to shake windows of nearby houses, according to local residents. In the morning, a group of around 300 migrants blocked the main road outside of the housing block. They also smashed road signs and parked cars while other shouted at the Italian locals.

Footage from nearby witnesses last night captured the migrants hurling stones and bottles at riot police. Residents also locked themselves in shops to avoid being hit by missiles.

According to locals, migrants told passerbys they were "Italian racists" as traffic was brought to a standstill outside the accommodation.

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No one was injured in the blasts, which were thought to be homemade letter bombs, according to La Stampa. The Turin city council said it was "concerned" about the violence. One official said they hoped police would identify those responsible as soon as possible. Around 1,300 migrants live in the buildings originally built for athletes when the city hosted the 2006 Winter Olympic Games.

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I get it, fishing you wankers out of the ocean, feeding and housing you for free, tolerating your incessant assaults and the rise of crime. SO RACIST!!

Also, you should be 'concerned' when illegal parking is on an increase. When violent invaders shut down your city center and place letter bombs then the proper sentiment should be to call a state of emergency and to deploy military troops.
leanmeansexmachine · 2016-11-25 14:05:00 · #12371
On 4 december, the Italy referendum will take place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_co...ndum,_2016

The referendum in Italy is one of what i and many others consider the last two chances of Western Europe surviving. The other one is the French election, with LePen winning. But i do not have much confidence in that. If the Italians vote 'no' this will result in Italy leaving eurozone and the collapse of the EU. Because without EU, there is no 'migrant crisis'. The countries that already have many muslims and africans in them will have to uncuck themselves fast when this happens.

I am travelling to both Milan and Torino from tomorrow with other nationalist groups from Europe. We are going to go into the streets and talk with people to help convince them to vote 'no'. Southern Italy is already ours because EU hurt them the most. Northern Italy is the most cucked because they are richer and alot of people profit from illegal immigration and labor.

Another video here is from Serbian radical party leader Vojislav Seselj. I do not agree with him on several points but he is our best option right now. Most of our politicians are EU cocksuckers who take it in the butt for globalist money.





Another video from Vojislav, here he supports Trump and protests that rat scum Joe Biden.



Parzival · 2016-11-25 15:34:00 · #12372
Why is all this actual bad? Most of us belong to the productive parts of the society. Work either independent or in a decent job. I've seen a lot of companies in Germany and now in Austria from the inside. The only care about doing their business. Most of them, even the bigger ones are not like Google, Facebook or Amazon with the ambition to change the world or society. They want good workers and their profit.

If there is a civil war I think most companies will act in their own interest and form gated communities and hire former soldiers and police men for their security. And when the push back of Islam comes, who will win? Actually I don't care that much for some sinister plans of "the elite". I doubt that you can spin stuff like that on such a big scale over a long period. There are powerful groups that push their agendas but you never can control everything and also not the flow of people. When society will make a shift, when you pushed to far. Maybe you can, still critical about it. Anyway I will enjoy the ride. The thrill of the fight.
Become a member of the resistance or the cooperation force when we kick them out. Also what is bad about a police state? Most Germans had a decent life in the 3rd Reich. Cut out the war and most did not suffer. Same in China. As long as you are not super political and challenge the system you fly under the radar. When nobody bothers me and I can do my stuff I don't care if I can put a cross every 4 years for some election. More important then freedom is a stable system.

And then when there is a civil war, most people get kicked out of their boring lives. They will join with joy the good fight. Enjoy the ride guy. There are maybe better times in history but this one is ours. Wouldn't it be joy to kick in the doors of a criminal migrant camp and deport them all? Hear their screams and everyone that resist gets a baton in the teeth. This is what we forgot, this is what lead us to the point. We forgot our spirit. The human spirit to struggle, to fight, overcome hardship and survive. Say farwell to your old life. Welcome the overblow of the new dawn. When we face the moment at the edge of life, this is where we reach our true self. Welcome the Übermensch inside yourself. Embrace it.
sterling_archer · 2016-11-25 15:54:00 · #12373
I don't agree (mildly annoyed) with Šešelj statements against Croats and existence of Croatia, but I admire his pro Trump statements.
Hope people don't mind me posting here as I am still under 250 posts.
leanmeansexmachine · 2016-11-25 15:55:00 · #12374
(11-25-2016 03:34 PM)Parzival Wrote:  If there is a civil war I think most companies will act in their own interest and form gated communities and hire former soldiers and police men for their security.

Why do you think they imported more than 1 million muslim men of fighting age into Germany?
leanmeansexmachine · 2016-11-25 15:58:00 · #12375
(11-25-2016 03:54 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  I don't agree (mildly annoyed) with Šešelj statements against Croats and existence of Croatia, but I admire his pro Trump statements.
Hope people don't mind me posting here as I am still under 250 posts.

Me too. Most politicians here they stick too much on the past.

But the truth is, there is nobody better.

It is not like the current EU and globalists are good for Croatia or any other country.
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