Post: #1

I used to think that letting women see you eyeing them might be revealing too much interest too early, like the non-verbal equivalent of men who open with "wow, you're so beautiful!" (cringe)

But this recent paragraph from an ROK article had me rethinking it:

Quote:When the hot girlfriend of a patient walked past us in the corridor, I looked the other way to be professional. My senior surgeon stopped walking, deliberately turned his head to follow her ass with no shame and then he looked at me: “Are you blind or something?”

I keep going back and forth on this now.

There is something very masculine about shameless displaying your interest in women's bodies, and unnatural, or perhaps even apologetic about hiding it. I've seen many European men who engage in what they'd call "catcalling" in the US, as if it was as natural as breathing.

On the other hand, women get so much attention that remaining aloof and not displaying too much interest too early could lead to actually getting to handle that beauty. Plus, in many circles now, checking a woman out with the "male gaze" could bring unnecessary drama and criticism.

So what do you guys think? Let women see you checking them out, or hide it till you've got the bang?

Post: #2

(09-01-2015 04:21 PM)Barbarian_Brad Wrote:  I used to think that letting women see you eyeing them might be revealing too much interest too early, like the non-verbal equivalent of men who open with "wow, you're so beautiful!" (cringe)

That's a hell of a lot better than not opening at all and just staring at them. If they do catch you, sure, then smile and say hello and start talking to them.

If they are somewhat far away, just wave at them and say hello. If they are receptive and say "hello" back, then try spitting some game. If they don't respond, no problem, find another target. If it's during the day, they will usually respond, if it is at night, their bitch shields will be up most likely.

Post: #3

Depends if she smiles at you the second she catches you staring smile back and then open with anything. Even the dumbest shit. Smiles from a girl are my green light every time.

Post: #4

Yes. This leads to multiple layers of subcommunication of which you are most likely unaware. However, don't leer.

'baller

Post: #5

Depends. This falls into the category of those things that handsome guys can do and average guys can not.

If she sees you checking her out and think you are cute/attractive, you set yourself up for great pre-approach communication.

If she doesn’t find you attractive, then you are a creep who is ogling her. “Ewwwww why are guys such creeps”

I think this is best done during the approach when you are already talking to her, the context gives it more seduction power.

Post: #6

CH wrote a post about it, but I could not find it.
YES, you should definitly check women out and then approach.

Post: #7

Definitely. It screens out interest from non interest early on. It shows that you're bold and confident and translates to "Girl I'll smash that pussy like I'm going to prison tomorrow".

Post: #8

Checking girl out is sexual and it's PULL.

So, after that you need to balance it with PUSH, for example with light tease "You are looking like a librarian".

Post: #9

(09-03-2015 07:58 AM)ginatingles Wrote:  Checking girl out is sexual and it's PULL.

So, after that you need to balance it with PUSH, for example with light tease "You are looking like a librarian".

Post: #10

(09-03-2015 07:59 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 07:58 AM)ginatingles Wrote:  Checking girl out is sexual and it's PULL.

So, after that you need to balance it with PUSH, for example with light tease "You are looking like a librarian".

I bet its a whole lot smoother in Polish

Post: #11

Depends on the guy, the girl, the situation, the type of eyeing.
As a general rule I don't believe in ogling (only gives her more validation.)
However letting her seeing you noticed her AND immediately following through with casual laid back conversation shows you know what you like and aren't afraid of going after it.
Some like to act shocked, wrap their arms around their chest, put on a jacket, very obviously trying to make you feel bad about noticing that her tits are spilling out of a low cut blouse. Shows you who's a tease or man hating feminist and prevents you from wasting time with her.

Post: #12

(09-03-2015 02:46 PM)mammal Wrote:  Depends on the guy, the girl, the situation, the type of eyeing.
As a general rule I don't believe in ogling (only gives her more validation.)
However letting her seeing you noticed her AND immediately following through with casual laid back conversation shows you know what you like and aren't afraid of going after it.
Some like to act shocked, wrap their arms around their chest, put on a jacket, very obviously trying to make you feel bad about noticing that her tits are spilling out of a low cut blouse. Shows you who's a tease or man hating feminist and prevents you from wasting time with her.

True but just remember;


Guy she's not attracted to eyeing her = creep

Guy she is attracted to eyeing = mysterious Mr Tingles

Post: #13

Don't stare like a homeless person, but make eye contact occasionally and hold until she breaks off. She'll let you know if there's interest if she's looking, waving, smiling, etc. If you see her often, act aloof sometimes like you could care less, then approach. Keep them off balance.

Post: #14

(09-03-2015 11:37 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 07:59 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(09-03-2015 07:58 AM)ginatingles Wrote:  Checking girl out is sexual and it's PULL.

So, after that you need to balance it with PUSH, for example with light tease "You are looking like a librarian".

I bet its a whole lot smoother in Polish

I don't say you shoud open with this line. This is just an example. After checking girl out most guys would say "You look so fucking hot".

So to stand out I would first use compliment and then tease - at least in daygame.

Post: #15

(09-01-2015 04:21 PM)Barbarian_Brad Wrote:  On the other hand, women get so much attention that remaining aloof and not displaying too much interest too early could lead to actually getting to handle that beauty. Plus, in many circles now, checking a woman out with the "male gaze" could bring unnecessary drama and criticism.

So what do you guys think? Let women see you checking them out, or hide it till you've got the bang?

I'd always favour aloof game on very beautiful women.

As such, don't leer and howl at women: you're a man who is in control of his sexuality, not an overwhelmed boy. The company of beautiful women is simply your day to day reality and not a rare occurrence. Since she's well-aware that her beauty is a tempestuous wind that always bends the young saplings to her will, she can't fail to notice that she barely stirs the branches of your solid Oak form.

You don't ogle her: you appraise her. She realises she is being measured by your high standards, and is unsure if you think she's worthy of your attention, since you're a connoisseur of beauty, not high from the merest whiff of its scent on a cork.

This is the aura of masculine power and sexual experience with women. This is what triggers her deep feminine mating instinct to obsessively-pursue you, steal your sexual and emotional attention away from all your other options, and capture it to focus it solely on her.

In a day game situation, you want her to think you were intrigued just enough to open her in conversation for potentially-nothing more than an brief, amusing distraction - during which you're studying her with mild curiosity - but you could have just as happily gone on your way without needing to escalate to digits / logistics. When that comes, it should seem unplanned, casual - like you reconsidered for some reason - but firm enough in action that it doesn't seem to have come from nervous waffling or fear.

Control around beauty. Always control. Even when I smile, all they get out of me is one corner of my mouth, and the smile is never visible in my eyes.

Just my two cents on the matter. Experiment or discard if it seems useful to your game construct.