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It has been almost 12 days since I arrived in Barranquilla.
I left Ukraine in late July and then wen to Quito, Ecuador for 10 days, Pasto, Colombia for 3 days, and 10 days in Cali.
This last year I lived mostly in Colombia, Ukraine, Poland, Thailand, Indonesia, Romania.
Will write about my experiences in future posts, but just wanted to share some knowledge about the women of 2 of the forum's favorite Colombian cities.
Last year and this year, I spent a total of 4 months in Cali, but in the end I decided not to buy a house or settle down there. When I thought about all the minus and pluses, i could not justify, to myself, spending 3 to 6 months each year in Cali.
The straw that broke the camel's back was the fact that I had just as good a time in Quito, Ecuador, this last time around than in Cali. I have always been a detractor (based on years of living in Quito and traveling in Ecuador) of Ecuador, but this time it wasn't bad. Similar to a world wide trend that I have noticed.....where the good places are not that good anymore and the bad places ain't that bad (this does not refer to 1st world countries..i.e. Canada).
I will still pick Colombia over any country in Latin America, specially because you can still regularly bang young broads.... but it ain't like the past for most of us not named Linux hehe.
So I left Cali with thoughts of finding something better in Colombia. i banged 3 girls in 10 days in Cali, but the experience, overall, was not so pleasant.
So here I am in Barranquilla. I had been here before,,,, for 3 days several years ago and have been a few times to Cartagena and Santa Marta. I picked Barranquilla, based on those experiences and info from the thread.
Here are a few observations. These are from a late 30s in shape Latino guy, with perfect spanish and bankroll.
1. One date and one night stands are more common in Barranquilla.
2. Girls drink more in Barranquilla.
3. The average 18 to 28 yr old woman is a 5.5 in Barranquilla, while in Cali a 6 to 6.25
4. In Barranquilla, the average girl has more black blood and in Cali more Indian.
Though there is big mix of 3 races in both.
5. The average Barranquilla girl is not as fit as a Calena.
6. Flakiness is about the same. It is pretty bad in both, but I have to go back to Medellin to really put it in perspective.
7. 2nd date bangs are the norm in Cali. In Barranquilla, go for it on the 1st meet because you might not get a 2nd chance and most are not worth a 2nd date.
8. The high end in looks and social status are similar and they tend to be more white. They are a pain in the ass in both cities.

Granted I am not drinking here in Barranquilla, while in Cali I indulged.... but for me it has both minus and pluses, in terms of banging girls.
My surprise so far has been that Barranquilla girls can be just as flaky as Calenas. They are more trusting and open than Calenas (so more one night stands), but that is counterbalanced by how much these girls here have been dicked over, by the biggest dogs in Colombia. 20nations advice about building comfort, through webcam or direct calls, is golden.
Also, my average quality of bang has gone down, though quantity remains about the same. So next year, I will give Bogota a try or my old hunting ground of Medellin.
Fortaleza and Bahia, Brazil are on the list for October and November. Unfortunately, will still have to look around to find a place to settle down, 3 to 6 months of the year.

Qualifier: if you are a gringo in your prime from 25 to 35 and do well in your home country...you will do well in both. Follow Linux's advice or learn a bit of Spanish to maximize results. Though, on average, it will be easier in Barranquilla, but the quality will go down a bit.

Post: #2

Solid drop.

Post: #3

Good post. I have my eyes on Colombia, possibly for next year, as I already know a bit of Spanish.

Since I have a mediterranean look, I expect some people will mistake me for a latino, so I don't think I'll light it up as much as some of the blue eyed gringos... but it definitely should be an interesting experience and really tighten up my Spanish.

Post: #4

Would appreciate one more Brazil x Colombia comparison. You pick Salvador and Fortaleza so you probably value quantity/easyness over quality.

Post: #5

(08-28-2015 09:27 PM)DiogoFC Wrote:  Would appreciate one more Brazil x Colombia comparison. You pick Salvador and Fortaleza so you probably value quantity/easyness over quality.

I, I like young women....18 to 24. In my late 30s, in the Northeast of Brazil is where, I will get the most of what I want
I know how the quality is in Belo Horizonte (lived there for a month and a half) and Porto Alegre, If I was in my late 20s..... that is where I would go.

Post: #6

I am still hoping that Brasileiras have that special quality that Colombianas lack. People who have been to both countries know what I mean. But it has been 3 years, so we will see what happens.

Post: #7

One funny thing, is the difference in how they flake in Medellin and Cali vs Barranquilla.
In Medellin and Cali, the girls will be mostly not care, not answer your messages or calls and probably will disappear forever.
In Barranquilla, most girls will actually try to apologize and get you back on their attention rotation. It is more active..... compared to passive flaking.
Yes.....most of the girls here, have been dicked over big time.

Post: #8

For me Barranquilla was a nice surprise in terms of the city actually having some pleasant and clean spaces with green areas in the north. Your analysis is pretty spot-on although I almost felt like the average girl in Barranquilla was just below the bangable range for me...but it's close. But again, I didn't do much night game here and focused primarily on day game.

I think the quality in Cali (I'm here now staying in Ciudad Jardín) very much depends on your location and day of the week. In the south of the city (Unicentro), the quality to me seemed very good on a Friday between 2:30 - 4:30 PM. There was an abundance of pretty girls from many age ranges 17-40+. I approached (doing 90% daygame now) a few girls that were in the 8-9 range (no numbers) and saw plenty in the 6-8 range and got a few numbers in the latter range. Returned to the same mall at the same time (2PM) the next day (Saturday...and Sunday for that matter) and I literally didn't see a single girl that was worth approaching who wasn't already with her boyfriend/husband/extended family or parents. But as far as the looks of caleñas, I've seen quite a few ass implants. And I'm talking like absurdly-sized asses. Every time I see one like that (which is several times per day) I just shake my head in disbelief that some men actually like them THAT BIG...some of them are really outrageous to the point where it seems surreal haha.

In Barranquilla, I think quality can be pretty decent but not great in Buena Vista Mall (from say 4:30-6:30), Centro Unico (during after-work hours during the week), Universidad del Norte, Portal del Prado Mall (4:30 - 6:30), and and the Falabella in the Centro Villa Country and the supermarkets in said malls with the exception of Unico. Although I did find that the girls in Portal del Prado seemed a bit gun shy for day approaches and a few appeared to have the impression I wanted to rob them (they would look at me suspiciously and closely clutch their purses to their bodies), which was both funny and a little bit depressing. The gun-shyness was confirmed with a wing as well. The overall look for girls from Barranquilla almost seemed Arab to me. There's definitely some African blood too but to me, Cali in general seems to have more mulattas and negritas on a whole, mostly only in the south though.

In the end, I would probably pick a caleña over a costeña based purely on looks and sex appeal (ass implants excluded), as there hasn't been enough time yet to meet more caleñas for a better overall analysis on personality.

But thanks for your input chochemonger. You've got some good insight on Colombia and will look for your posts on Ecuador as I'm heading there in a few weeks. Hopefully will spend 10 days more or less in Quito. By the way, how was day game in Quito?

Post: #9

(09-06-2015 08:39 PM)bootyhuntah Wrote:  For me Barranquilla was a nice surprise in terms of the city actually having some pleasant and clean spaces with green areas in the north. Your analysis is pretty spot-on although I almost felt like the average girl in Barranquilla was just below the bangable range for me...but it's close. But again, I didn't do much night game here and focused primarily on day game.

I think the quality in Cali (I'm here now staying in Ciudad Jardín) very much depends on your location and day of the week. In the south of the city (Unicentro), the quality to me seemed very good on a Friday between 2:30 - 4:30 PM. There was an abundance of pretty girls from many age ranges 17-40+. I approached (doing 90% daygame now) a few girls that were in the 8-9 range (no numbers) and saw plenty in the 6-8 range and got a few numbers in the latter range. Returned to the same mall at the same time (2PM) the next day (Saturday...and Sunday for that matter) and I literally didn't see a single girl that was worth approaching who wasn't already with her boyfriend/husband/extended family or parents. But as far as the looks of caleñas, I've seen quite a few ass implants. And I'm talking like absurdly-sized asses. Every time I see one like that (which is several times per day) I just shake my head in disbelief that some men actually like them THAT BIG...some of them are really outrageous to the point where it seems surreal haha.

In Barranquilla, I think quality can be pretty decent but not great in Buena Vista Mall (from say 4:30-6:30), Centro Unico (during after-work hours during the week), Universidad del Norte, Portal del Prado Mall (4:30 - 6:30), and and the Falabella in the Centro Villa Country and the supermarkets in said malls with the exception of Unico. Although I did find that the girls in Portal del Prado seemed a bit gun shy for day approaches and a few appeared to have the impression I wanted to rob them, which was both funny and a little bit depressing. The gun-shyness was confirmed with a wing as well. The overall look for girls from Barranquilla almost seemed Arab to me. There's definitely some African blood too but to me, Cali in general seems to have more mulattas and negritas on a whole, mostly only in the south though.

In the end, I would probably pick a caleña over a consteña based purely on looks and sex appeal (ass implants excluded), as there hasn't been enough time yet to meet more caleñas for a better overall analysis on personality.

But thanks for your input chochemonger. You've got some good insight on Colombia and will look for your posts on Ecuador as I'm heading there in a few weeks. Hopefully will spend 10 days more or less in Quito. By the way, how was day game in Quito?

For men that are curious to experience some ass implants, what city in Colombia has the most girls with such a feature? Would you say it is Cali?

Post: #10

I'm curious if chochemonger will agree or not, but my vote is cast for Cali so far for asses (fake and real) and I've only been here 4 nights. For comparison's sake, I've spent time in Bogotá, Medellín, Barranquilla, Bucaramanga (added to chochemonger datasheet), Cartagena, Santa Marta, Manizales, Salento, and Pereira.

Post: #11

(09-06-2015 08:39 PM)bootyhuntah Wrote:  For me Barranquilla was a nice surprise in terms of the city actually having some pleasant and clean spaces with green areas in the north. Your analysis is pretty spot-on although I almost felt like the average girl in Barranquilla was just below the bangable range for me...but it's close. But again, I didn't do much night game here and focused primarily on day game.

I think the quality in Cali (I'm here now staying in Ciudad Jardín) very much depends on your location and day of the week. In the south of the city (Unicentro), the quality to me seemed very good on a Friday between 2:30 - 4:30 PM. There was an abundance of pretty girls from many age ranges 17-40+. I approached (doing 90% daygame now) a few girls that were in the 8-9 range (no numbers) and saw plenty in the 6-8 range and got a few numbers in the latter range. Returned to the same mall at the same time (2PM) the next day (Saturday...and Sunday for that matter) and I literally didn't see a single girl that was worth approaching who wasn't already with her boyfriend/husband/extended family or parents. But as far as the looks of caleñas, I've seen quite a few ass implants. And I'm talking like absurdly-sized asses. Every time I see one like that (which is several times per day) I just shake my head in disbelief that some men actually like them THAT BIG...some of them are really outrageous to the point where it seems surreal haha.

In Barranquilla, I think quality can be pretty decent but not great in Buena Vista Mall (from say 4:30-6:30), Centro Unico (during after-work hours during the week), Universidad del Norte, Portal del Prado Mall (4:30 - 6:30), and and the Falabella in the Centro Villa Country and the supermarkets in said malls with the exception of Unico. Although I did find that the girls in Portal del Prado seemed a bit gun shy for day approaches and a few appeared to have the impression I wanted to rob them (they would look at me suspiciously and closely clutch their purses to their bodies), which was both funny and a little bit depressing. The gun-shyness was confirmed with a wing as well. The overall look for girls from Barranquilla almost seemed Arab to me. There's definitely some African blood too but to me, Cali in general seems to have more mulattas and negritas on a whole, mostly only in the south though.

In the end, I would probably pick a caleña over a costeña based purely on looks and sex appeal (ass implants excluded), as there hasn't been enough time yet to meet more caleñas for a better overall analysis on personality.

But thanks for your input chochemonger. You've got some good insight on Colombia and will look for your posts on Ecuador as I'm heading there in a few weeks. Hopefully will spend 10 days more or less in Quito. By the way, how was day game in Quito?

Yes, overall calena over costena. Costena is for one night or date. Calenas are on average more attractive, but it seems all the hot young girls in both cities are taken. Quantity is higher in the Colombian coast, but I am not banging 18 to 20 year old regularly.
In that sense Medellin, Bogota or Manizales might be better bets.
Quito, Ecuador has a good share of gringo groupies, but Lima or Bogota has higher quality and quantity,

Post: #12

But what has become so apparent with smartphones and the internet is that, most Colombian girls are not worth short relationships. Just like the Phils or the DR.
Uzbekistan, Russia and Ukraine again....for the better.

Post: #13

(09-06-2015 11:20 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  But what has become so apparent with smartphones and the internet is that, most Colombian girls are not worth short relationships. Just like the Phils or the DR.
Uzbekistan, Russia and Ukraine again....for the better.

Can you clarify this?

Are you saying all the countries you mentioned aren't worth short term relationships and are only good for pump and dump?

Post: #14

Belated +1 rep point, gives nice clear pic of some important factors. I get hives from flakers ;-)

Post: #15

Where should I stay in Columbia for 1 to 2 months? Im 51 look 41 with no financial problems? I dont care about banging 20s something girls..Just want to stay in an area that I can hopefully walk to clubs gyms restaurants that are safe and not touristy.

Post: #16

(09-07-2015 06:57 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:20 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  But what has become so apparent with smartphones and the internet is that, most Colombian girls are not worth short relationships. Just like the Phils or the DR.
Uzbekistan, Russia and Ukraine again....for the better.

Can you clarify this?

Are you saying all the countries you mentioned aren't worth short term relationships and are only good for pump and dump?

In general, Eastern Europe is better in terms of having short or long relationships with women, than South America.
Brazil might be the exception, but I have not been in 3 years and girls were changing for the worst, last I saw.

Post: #17

(09-07-2015 08:47 AM)spider7075 Wrote:  Where should I stay in Columbia for 1 to 2 months? Im 51 look 41 with no financial problems? I dont care about banging 20s something girls..Just want to stay in an area that I can hopefully walk to clubs gyms restaurants that are safe and not touristy.

Depends on your Spanish ability. If it's non existent or very basic go to Bogota. If it is solid or good, then you might want to try Medellin. You wont have problems finding good neighborhoods, in both, that are safe and non-touristy.

Post: #18

For those of you wondering about Cali Colombia and the fake and/or surgical asses, I just came across this link today showing the transformation of a very out-of-shape woman who traveled to Cali to do a Brazilian Butt Lift Procedure, showing pre-op and post-op photos. The results are very telling. Not saying I would hit it post-op but the difference is notable.

NSFW: http://www.realself.com/review/cali-braz...i-colombia

Post: #19

I have been in Barranquilla for a month now, and I would pick it over Cali.
Logistics are better and the girls easier, more open and less ´desconfiadas´.
Girls often come directly (without meeting me before) to my apartment, which almost never happens to me in Cali.
Flaking and other annoying colombiana qualities are about the same in both cities.
The average quality in Cali is a bit higher, but there is plenty of available, easy and attractive women in Barranquilla, which makes up for that.

Post: #20

Question about the coming directly to the apartment bit for costeñas. I have been surprised by the eagerness some girls have shown to coming straight to the apartment without meeting me first or going on a date. I'll propose to them to come over on whatsapp, and they don't even flinch. Of course some act ok with it, and then flake at the last minute. I had one girl agree to meet me at a certain time. 15 minutes passed and I decided to call her to decide where she was at. She told "Que pena contigo. Mi amigo llegó y ya no puedo".

For the guys who have lived on the coast for a given amount of time, do you ever take a girl on a date or is it always straight to the apartment?

Where I am living right now too, the dating infrastructure seems horrible. No cafés, no parks, nothing of interest to do in public.

Post: #21

(11-06-2015 10:53 PM)k-swede Wrote:  Question about the coming directly to the apartment bit for costeñas. I have been surprised by the eagerness some girls have shown to coming straight to the apartment without meeting me first or going on a date. I'll propose to them to come over on whatsapp, and they don't even flinch. Of course some act ok with it, and then flake at the last minute. I had one girl agree to meet me at a certain time. 15 minutes passed and I decided to call her to decide where she was at. She told "Que pena contigo. Mi amigo llegó y ya no puedo".

For the guys who have lived on the coast for a given amount of time, do you ever take a girl on a date or is it always straight to the apartment?

Where I am living right now too, the dating infrastructure seems horrible. No cafés, no parks, nothing of interest to do in public.

Depends on the girl. The very eager to meet you ones, yeah sure....direct to the apartment. The shyer, younger or more normal ones, just invite them to the mall nearest you.
Then try to take them back to your place for a drink or movie, after 2 hours of chich chat.