Post: #1

were we called out with this, or was this something they already knew we do and don't care if we do it?
Here's the link and pasted article.
http://www.howaboutwe.com/date-report/13...-up-artist

A pick-up artist is a guy who is interested in one thing and one thing only: picking up women. Not a relationship, not a date, not even necessarily you: these guys are on the hunt for women's numbers. These guys are encouraged to walk into a bar and try to get the number of every woman there: once they have your number, they move on to the next girl.

In other words, not date material. At all.

Luckily, pick-up artists are pretty easy to spot once you know their strategies.

According to Quora users, you can identify these guys by the following characteristics:

-They're in a hurry - they aren't actually interested in having coffee next Tuesday.

-They're intense - they'll stand too close and stare too deeply into your eyes/cleavage.

-Pick-Up artists are all taught the importance of "peacocking", aka wearing something outlandish or holding a random object to get you to notice them/ask about it. Look for ridiculous clothing, weird haircuts, or a random out of place object like a bowling ball or a towel.

-They come over to your group and start off by handing you a "neg", or a back-handed compliment. For example: "Vodka soda? Really? That's kind of adorable." Or, "Has anyone ever told you you wear too much foundation?"

-They proceed to explain/show some really interesting things to everyone else in your group, largely ignoring you. This has the effect of making you increasingly interested in what they have to say, but when you try to get in on the conversation they keeps pushing you out, tantalizing you even more.

-They'll never simply ask for your number. A guy who says "So, uh, can I get your number?" and seems nervous about it might actually be interested in you. A pick-up artist will basically demand your number. "Hey, I gotta get back to my friends, but give me your number." Or, he'll try to do some kind of question or bet, where if you lose you have to give him your number. And you'll lose. It will be rigged, and you will always lose.

Gross, gross, gross, gross, gross, gross, gross!

If a dude does any of these things (with the exception, maybe, of the peacocking), you should ignore the guy. If he's not a pick-up artist, then he's just a jerk.

Post: #2

Please post up a pic of the bitch who wrote this.

Post: #3

Sounds like the PUA's of the mid-2000s. Our breed blends in a bit more anyway, much to our advantage. This chick probably read Mystery's book and decided to write about it. Nothing new here.

I think this is her: https://twitter.com/#!/ChiaraAtik

Maybe a 2 or a 3.

Post: #4

We arent pua's we are macs

Post: #5

yeah really, the tactics she describes are completely outdated

Post: #6

This is the Quora thread that she bases it on: http://www.quora.com/What-are-tell-tale-...kup-artist

If this is what they're looking for I'd say most of us are safe from being spotted! It applies to rookies who have just read the Game, are still not very congruent with it and use lots of canned material.

I've never considered myself a pickup artist. More a playboy in training.

Post: #7

Good, I wish they'd put more articles like this up as it'd instantly weed out all the guys trying to use outdated shit.

I mean seriously, I sincerely hope non of you are :

These guys are encouraged to walk into a bar and try to get the number of every woman there: once they have your number, they move on to the next girl.

If you're out for just phone numbers, you're an idiot.

They're in a hurry - they aren't actually interested in having coffee next Tuesday.

Or any other day...

Pick-Up artists are all taught the importance of "peacocking", aka wearing something outlandish or holding a random object to get you to notice them/ask about it. Look for ridiculous clothing, weird haircuts, or a random out of place object like a bowling ball or a towel.

Again, I hope none of you are doing this... unless you're a wizard, of course.

They come over to your group and start off by handing you a "neg", or a back-handed compliment. For example: "Vodka soda? Really? That's kind of adorable." Or, "Has anyone ever told you you wear too much foundation?"

Yet another reason why I don't over-use or blatantly use "negs".

Post: #8

My friend was hitting on a girl in a Forever 21 store who asked him "Is this Keys to the VIP Forever 21 Edition"?
That was funny since all he did was go in and introduce himself. No tactics or any scripts, just a plain old natural introduction.

Post: #9

See, and here I thought I was supposed to leave my lucky bowling ball at home

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Post: #10

(06-13-2011 05:03 PM)evanb Wrote:  -They'll never simply ask for your number. A guy who says "So, uh, can I get your number?" and seems nervous about it might actually be interested in you. A pick-up artist will basically demand your number. "Hey, I gotta get back to my friends, but give me your number."

So you're expected to act nervous? You're supposed to "ask nicely"? Hahahah. You've got to be kidding me. That's the first thing I learned NOT to do.

Post: #11

You guys are all crazy, I wear my pink scarf, and Herman Munster shoes all the time to go with my black fingernails when I pick-up. It works

** I saw the picture of the girl who wrote that, I think she is just pissed that nobody has tried to pick her up....yuk, she's hideous!

Mixx

Post: #12

I, for one, celebrate the dissemination of these misconceptions and distortions of game. The more people think of game in those terms, the more we benefit by doing something that doesn't even closely resemble the "pick-up" lifestyle.

The other day, a beta friend of mine who rarely gets laid--and who I demoted years ago because he was dragging me down--asked me for advice on picking up some girl that showed interest in him. When, against my better judgment (and general policy), I started to give him some advice I know he won't take anyway, he added: "I want to be good with girls, but I don't want to be a pick-up artist."

I smiled and shook my head at the same time.

Post: #13

(06-13-2011 09:11 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  "I want to be good with girls, but I don't want to be a pick-up artist."

That's like saying I want to learn how to prepare delicious food, but I don't want to be a good cook.

Post: #14

(06-13-2011 07:22 PM)CJ Wrote:  These guys are encouraged to walk into a bar and try to get the number of every woman there: once they have your number, they move on to the next girl.

If you're out for just phone numbers, you're an idiot.

Seriously, what a boneheaded article.

We're really talking about players and jerks, but that's what girls want; if girls "spotted" them and avoided them, they'd have nothing left to arouse them.

Real signs of a player (somewhat self-descriptive):
Doesn't schedule dates during the day with girls he hasn't sexed.
Texts only to arrange dates.
Physically forward and persistent. Quick to touch.
Isn't too inquisitive.
He hesitates to introduce you to friends, doesn't want to meet yours.
Tells you he's a virgin when he seems like a manwhore.
Loses interest when sex isn't on the horizon.
Locks his phone.
He always has a clever comeback.

Quote:A real player will judge all purchases on whether they will increase his chances of having sex....

If you ask his mates/flatmates about him, they will clam up and give non-committal, monosyllabic answers, giving the impression they know virtually nothing about his life.

From here, pretty good list. All the other articles citing signs of the player are way off-base.

Post: #15

Don't articles like these just force the real PUA to make his game more seamless, i.e. seem less like game? Sort of like survival of the fittest, the real game guy will evolve to just make his game more natural in response to articles that "warn" girls about game, weeding out the amateurs still wearing hats with LCDs or overusing negs. In the end, she's not really helping her own cause.

Post: #16

(06-14-2011 02:03 PM)Ajiaco Wrote:  Don't articles like these just force the real PUA to make his game more seamless, i.e. seem less like game? Sort of like survival of the fittest, the real game guy will evolve to just make his game more natural in response to articles that "warn" girls about game, weeding out the amateurs still wearing hats with LCDs or overusing negs. In the end, she's not really helping her own cause.

It shouldn't even be in response to articles like this. A player should always strive to make his game seem as effortless, natural and congruent as possible. It takes a lot of practise and eventually makes you indistinguishable from any other charismatic guy.

I'd rather tone it down and feel good about myself than try to be all things to all women and run insane high energy game all the time. This is why it's the noob wannabe PUAs who end up getting called out and spotted - they just ape what they see someone else doing and end up looking foolish.

Post: #17

(06-13-2011 09:11 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  I, for one, celebrate the dissemination of these misconceptions and distortions of game. The more people think of game in those terms, the more we benefit by doing something that doesn't even closely resemble the "pick-up" lifestyle.

The other day, a beta friend of mine who rarely gets laid--and who I demoted years ago because he was dragging me down--asked me for advice on picking up some girl that showed interest in him. When, against my better judgment (and general policy), I started to give him some advice I know he won't take anyway, he added: "I want to be good with girls, but I don't want to be a pick-up artist."

I smiled and shook my head at the same time.

Agreed. The dissemination of the cartoonish, fuzzy-hat-and-magic-tricks idea of "pickup artists" only helps those of us who actually use game. Chicks think "Oh, he doesn't seem like one of those weirdos who paint their fingernails black. He must genuine." Add to that the fact that relatively few guys are actually out there practicing game and it's possible to be a very big fish in a small pond.

Post: #18

Quote:Chicks think "Oh, he doesn't seem like one of those weirdos who paint their fingernails black. He must genuine."

Hilarious dude.
Keep in mind that the blog the article was posted on was the same blog, a DATING blog supposedly, that has many articles on post one night stand ettiqute and the like. But now this chic was probably PMSing so decided to write something stupid.