Post: #1

hi people this is my first thread on here. I'm 25 and live in London, i've been doing this thing properly for almost 2 years. I go out every Friday and Saturday. My results are good depending on how many approaches I do and the overall quality of them, its just I've noticed that a lot of the number closes I do the girls wont respond the texts, phone calls. These phone numbers are real as I will message them on whatsapp and can see their picture.

This doesn't worry me but out of every 5 numbers from proper approaches in night game that I get 3 of them never reply. Some of the time I will get off with these girls in the club, touch them up etc (not fuck or anything that leads to a cumshot, if there a cumshot I normally see these girls again for a round 2 etc).

Normally the approaches go like this... I will approach and say something like what time does this place close? do you like this song etc and go from there and start spitting some game. For a bit of time then number close, go on for another minute or two then keep it moving

On these type of approaches my success rate compared to the amount of numbers I've been getting havn't been that great. Overall figures are good but I am doing sa lot of approaches to get them.

My question is does this happen to you fellas as well? It doesnt bother me but a lot of the number closes I do don't go anywhere.

Post: #2

When you start out, night game #'s tend to be flaky.
You should always aim for the one night stand during night game.

The key to understanding the night game flaky # is
- she doesn't see you
- she doesn't feel you
- she doesn't feel the same way that she did in the club (no lights, music, alcohol, and attention) Back in the day we'd say she was "Out of State"

So when your name pops up on a text/call, she may remember that it is you - but she's out of that party state of mind. She's not gonna hook up with some random guy from a club....unless you made a deep impression.

To make that deep impression - you have to spend more than 5-10 minutes chatting her up. The amount of time you spend to have a solid #, sometimes a little bit more and you can get the bang.

Also keep in mind, that dance club age girls (or dance club mindset girls) tend to be young and flighty. If she's the typical club hottie, she's getting attention at the club and in her daily life. Do not be surprised when these chicks have children, boyfriends, and husbands at home.

WIA

Post: #3

Totally agree with WestIndianArchie.

I have bad %'s with number-closes from night-game. Much better to go for the same-night lay. More difficult than getting # but a better route to a notch. Isolate, kino, extract.

Read "Bang"--Roosh covers this well and very true in my experience.

Number-close more acceptable with day-game but even there transition to an "insta-date" leaves a better impression. See Roosh in "Day Bang"

Post: #4

Every guy in this thread so far is using textspeak. Please, guys.

Post: #5

Duly noted. Thanks.

Post: #6

Night game never worked well for me in the past. Recently I started escalating physically almost immediately. The change in results has been dramatic.

Post: #7

Nightgame at a club. You had a makeout at the dance floor and had shots with her. Then, comes the restroom scenario:

1. She says she wants to go to the restroom and asks you to wait by the door: You know its a sure thing but waiting for her is going to make you lose your frame but on the other hand, she has been into you so far. How would you reply?

2. You have to use the restroom (and waiting till heading out is not an option): How can you avoid losing her in the chaos outside?

What are things that have worked well for you in the past?

Post: #8

(01-28-2018 08:20 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Nightgame at a club. You had a makeout at the dance floor and had shots with her. Then, comes the restroom scenario:

1. She says she wants to go to the restroom and asks you to wait by the door: You know its a sure thing but waiting for her is going to make you lose your frame but on the other hand, she has been into you so far. How would you reply?

2. You have to use the restroom (and waiting till heading out is not an option): How can you avoid losing her in the chaos outside?

What are things that have worked well for you in the past?

Any suggestion for the above?

Also, you approach her on the dance floor. You go for the kiss but she gives resistance, nevertheless, she is still keen to dance with you.

How would you continue? Is it best to bring her out of the dance floor and have a chat, and then try again? What has worked for you in the past?

Cheers

Post: #9

Are you a phone number collector or do you want to get laid?

A phone number is the last resort and when you get it, you should've already tackled logistics and found out if she was open to meet you later in the evening after her friends were ditched or asleep.

Post: #10

(02-03-2018 09:43 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 08:20 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Nightgame at a club. You had a makeout at the dance floor and had shots with her. Then, comes the restroom scenario:

1. She says she wants to go to the restroom and asks you to wait by the door: You know its a sure thing but waiting for her is going to make you lose your frame but on the other hand, she has been into you so far. How would you reply?

2. You have to use the restroom (and waiting till heading out is not an option): How can you avoid losing her in the chaos outside?

What are things that have worked well for you in the past?

Any suggestion for the above?

Also, you approach her on the dance floor. You go for the kiss but she gives resistance, nevertheless, she is still keen to dance with you.

How would you continue? Is it best to bring her out of the dance floor and have a chat, and then try again? What has worked for you in the past?

Cheers

If you go for the kiss and she backs off.. you back off, do more push pull and try again after a time. If she hasn''t bounced that means shes interested so you keep gaming and keep going.

Careful of too much escalation in the club though. It has def cost me a lay or two.

Post: #11

(02-05-2018 08:33 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 09:43 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 08:20 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Nightgame at a club. You had a makeout at the dance floor and had shots with her. Then, comes the restroom scenario:

1. She says she wants to go to the restroom and asks you to wait by the door: You know its a sure thing but waiting for her is going to make you lose your frame but on the other hand, she has been into you so far. How would you reply?

2. You have to use the restroom (and waiting till heading out is not an option): How can you avoid losing her in the chaos outside?

What are things that have worked well for you in the past?

Any suggestion for the above?

Also, you approach her on the dance floor. You go for the kiss but she gives resistance, nevertheless, she is still keen to dance with you.

How would you continue? Is it best to bring her out of the dance floor and have a chat, and then try again? What has worked for you in the past?

Cheers

Careful of too much escalation in the club though. It has def cost me a lay or two.

kirdiesel, when you mean too much escalation, how much is too much in your experiences?


Another issue that happens is you dance with her, go for the kiss then do the makeout. What is the next step? Stay or leave the dance floor and after how long?

When you leave the dance floor with her, do you guys go for another drink or propose going back home?

If the drink option is chosen, is it better to get a shot and get back to dancing before leaving the venue or get a mixed drink and bring her to another spot in the venue to have a chat before leaving, ie. How important is the chat before leaving the venue?

Let us only consider our experiences to approaches at the dancefloor in the anglosphere.

Post: #12

^ Every girl is different when it comes to “how much” escalation. What’s more important is discretion.

You can brush up next to her “accidentally”, or physically move her out of the way of some group of people that are walking by. That’s probably where I would stop because she’ll be thinking about that touch for a while and asking herself “so what’s his next move?”

But I’m not squeezing the buns unless she literally begging me to (and by this point, we’re usually at the crib)

You don’t want to be all up on her in the club, generally speaking. You want her to be so engaged in the conversation that’s she’s leaning in, waiting to hear what you have to say next.

So you’re dancing, having a good time — that’s a pretty neutral place to be honestly. Even if you’re a good dancer, it doesn’t mean you will go home with her.

Have you met her friends? If she’s with her friends, go get her friends and dance with all of them. if you haven’t met the friends, figure out how attached she is to the group (“you seem like an independent girl, you probably enjoy your freedom, etc.”)

I don’t buy drinks for girls at the club. I will buy a round for the homies to loosen them up. I have drinks at my place for girls that come back with me.

Post: #13

(02-16-2018 05:00 PM)BasketBounce Wrote:  ^ Every girl is different when it comes to “how much” escalation. What’s more important is discretion.

You can brush up next to her “accidentally”, or physically move her out of the way of some group of people that are walking by. That’s probably where I would stop because she’ll be thinking about that touch for a while and asking herself “so what’s his next move?”

But I’m not squeezing the buns unless she literally begging me to (and by this point, we’re usually at the crib)

You don’t want to be all up on her in the club, generally speaking. You want her to be so engaged in the conversation that’s she’s leaning in, waiting to hear what you have to say next.

So you’re dancing, having a good time — that’s a pretty neutral place to be honestly. Even if you’re a good dancer, it doesn’t mean you will go home with her.

Have you met her friends? If she’s with her friends, go get her friends and dance with all of them. if you haven’t met the friends, figure out how attached she is to the group (“you seem like an independent girl, you probably enjoy your freedom, etc.”)

I don’t buy drinks for girls at the club. I will buy a round for the homies to loosen them up. I have drinks at my place for girls that come back with me.

Nice couple of points made here. Yeah, buying her drinks even after some convo or interaction on the dance floor is not good unless she she suggests drinks first. I find girls who are really interested will offer getting the first round of drinks and the guy can then return the favor later.
Getting to know her friends is the key if she is interested but often, unless her friend circle is very small OR the friends have other guys with them, they are usually not happy to let their friend hang out with a strange guy. I think its a jealousy thing that goes on with girls, especially the younger ones.
Also, it sounds kind of lame, talking/introducing yourself to her friends at the dance floor. Its better to do it at the bar and preferably with a wingman

I don't know if the 'brushing her' accidentally or 'moving her' works in clubs. It might come across as 'weird/creepy' unless you follow it up with nice convo immediately after. If you are in her vicinity, she mostly notices the guys around her and will show interest so I am guessing just opening her the normal way might do it.

It's strange but I am actually seeing more pickups on the dance floor (where guys are not really dancers) than at the bar area. But you are right, its not a reliable way to make a connection that is sustainable unless she is super interested.

I am now thinking that a good progression is, open at the bar and engage friends -> bring her to the dance floor -> escalate a little bit -> bring her off the dance floor to chat some more -> propose leaving

What do you guys think?