Post: #51

Here's a fun dance move you can use to get a girl turned on to you!


   


Step 1: Face your partner, hold her hands loosely to each side of you.

Step 2: Without letting go of her hands, twirl her with your left arm and keep your right hand holding on to her.

Step 3: If you've executed this move correctly, her back will now be against your front. Her arms will be crossed in front of her and your hands will still be holding onto her hands. Pull her in close to you so she's grinding against you.

Step 4: Lean her body to the left, slightly dipping her. Her right shoulder should rest on your left shoulder. She should be able to turn her head to face yours.

Step 5: Now lean her body to the right, slightly dipping her. Her left shoulder should rest on your right shoulder.

Step 6: Twirl her back to face you with your left arm.


This dance move is quite basic, and yet most girls will be very impressed when you bust it out on them. Try it out!

Post: #52

Sorry if this was already asked here, but I have one big weakness on the dance floor and thats hand-in-hand dancing. Things like twirling and just moving together botch my flow up crazy. I'm fine when were not connected and just facing or dancing closely to one another, but as soon as she grabs my hand it all goes to shit. I feel like I'm losing out on a lot of potential approaches because I cant just take a girls hand and whisk her off.

What a good way to remedy this? Just practice and fuck up till I'm better at it? Or is there something I can research to give me better knowledge?

Also classes (unless they're free) are out due to financial restrictions.

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Post: #53

(09-28-2011 05:46 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  Sorry if this was already asked here, but I have one big weakness on the dance floor and thats hand-in-hand dancing. Things like twirling and just moving together botch my flow up crazy. I'm fine when were not connected and just facing or dancing closely to one another, but as soon as she grabs my hand it all goes to shit. I feel like I'm losing out on a lot of potential approaches because I cant just take a girls hand and whisk her off.

What a good way to remedy this? Just practice and fuck up till I'm better at it? Or is there something I can research to give me better knowledge?

Also classes (unless they're free) are out due to financial restrictions.

A lot of colleges offer free dancing lessons of many types. I personally got many free swing dancing lessons.

Other than that, keep practicing homie.

Post: #54

I know a few girls who offer free dance classes here too. Most of these will have some seriously favorable girl:guy ratios. And the shields are down during these classes too from what I've noticed.

Post: #55

(09-29-2011 01:34 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-28-2011 05:46 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  Sorry if this was already asked here, but I have one big weakness on the dance floor and thats hand-in-hand dancing. Things like twirling and just moving together botch my flow up crazy. I'm fine when were not connected and just facing or dancing closely to one another, but as soon as she grabs my hand it all goes to shit. I feel like I'm losing out on a lot of potential approaches because I cant just take a girls hand and whisk her off.

What a good way to remedy this? Just practice and fuck up till I'm better at it? Or is there something I can research to give me better knowledge?

Also classes (unless they're free) are out due to financial restrictions.

A lot of colleges offer free dancing lessons of many types. I personally got many free swing dancing lessons.

Other than that, keep practicing homie.

There's actually a place that teaches dance not far from me that does live music and "free" lessons on fridays. According to their website its $12 at the door and they do a lot of swing on these nights, would that be something worth looking into in your opinion?

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Post: #56

How is it free if you have to pay $12?

If it is free, check it out. Nothing to lose. Most lessons are held early enough that you'll be able to go out afterwards.

Post: #57

(09-29-2011 03:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  How is it free if you have to pay $12?
The instruction is free, the charge is being called a "cover" to pay for the live music.

If it is free, check it out. Nothing to lose. Most lessons are held early enough that you'll be able to go out afterwards.
I noticed this as well, even the place I'm looking at is done by midnight with the watefront bars just 15 minutes away, could easily be a good night.

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Post: #58

(09-29-2011 04:13 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

(09-29-2011 03:47 PM)Samseau Wrote:  How is it free if you have to pay $12?
The instruction is free, the charge is being called a "cover" to pay for the live music.

If it is free, check it out. Nothing to lose. Most lessons are held early enough that you'll be able to go out afterwards.
I noticed this as well, even the place I'm looking at is done by midnight with the watefront bars just 15 minutes away, could easily be a good night.

I wouldn't pay for that shit. Where do you live? Look online in your area and see if you can find free lessons. If you are in a Top 20 US city, I bet you'll be able to find something.

Post: #59

Really like your post. I've been looking around and found some sites on dance floor game what do you think about these?

http://www.dancefloorgamemastery.com There is a book to buy, but he spams like crazy

http://www.dancefloorgamedomination.com There is a free ebook to download which I think is decent and a blog as well at http://www.dancefloorgamedomination.com/blog/

and the last one which has a book to buy http://www.flirt2thebeat.com which I havnt bought yet.

Let me know what you think since I want to do more dance floor game

Post: #60

(11-07-2011 12:19 PM)Lemmileak Wrote:  Let me know what you think since I want to do more dance floor game

this is very similar to how i do it. not always that aggressive cause there's no need to be pushing through bunch of sissy dudes anyway but basically stepping up, grabbing hand, pulling in and spinning is great. it shows all of the good things about a guy and it kills other leering dudes instantly.

and when you comapare it to the typical sneaking in, grinding, moving slow you're a rockstar : )

watch from 2:14

Post: #61

Awesome thanks man! Its nice seeing it in action, yea I've been using the spin move, it sounds corny but infield its legit.

Post: #62

You have to be careful where you pull that move. It can easily lead to a fight (in colombia) with a guy (narco, drug lord, boyfriend, lover or AFC) who thought was going to get some. So, have some boys ready to back you up 'cuz I have personally seen that move go terribly wrong, especially if the girl in the circle rejects you.


Mixx

Post: #63

(11-08-2011 10:15 AM)MiXX Wrote:  You have to be careful where you pull that move. It can easily lead to a fight (in colombia) with a guy (narco, drug lord, boyfriend, lover or AFC) who thought was going to get some. So, have some boys ready to back you up 'cuz I have personally seen that move go terribly wrong, especially if the girl in the circle rejects you.


Mixx

Yep. Almost go into a fight that night lol

Plus I picked up and spun the girl around which caused her boyfriend to head lock me...

Post: #64

That video is amateur. I talk about opening with a twirl from the get-go: so basic. I can't believe that guy charged for his shitty seminar to say "SPIN AND IN".



First of all, opening with a twirl is pathetic bullshit. It's the first dance move you need to do, but it's not how you open. You open by offering the girl your hand. And before you offer your hand, you should be doing some good solo dancing to display your dancing prowess. If she doesn't take your hand, then you find another girl. This is how you avoid being beaten by her boyfriend/friends. I go solo to dance clubs everywhere and I only get attacked by crazy bitches once in a blue moon. I've never come close to being seriously injured.

Offering your hand allows a girl to turn you down in case her roid'ed out boyfriend is nearby ready to beat your ass, or her physco girlfriend's have a knife in their pocketbook. Just offer your hand and see what her reaction is. Besides, how low-value can you be if you just charge in and start dancing with her? Offer her a dance, but you don't need to force her. Either she accepts or you can move on to another lucky girl. No loss for you.

Ironically, offering my hand doesn't protect me from girls who aren't sexually interested in me. I'm at the point where girls with boyfriends will still dance with me, just because they want a good time. It's actually pretty annoying when I go for a kiss and a girl points to her boyfriend on a bench watching me, or shows me her ring, or tells me she has a boyfriend and is just out with her girlfriends.

It got to the point where I needed to reject girls as often as they reject me, so I could find a girl bang and not waste time.

To reiterate.

You move through the club while dancing. You see some cute girls. Dance your way to them. Dance next to them, and when she looks at you, offer her your hand. She either takes it or shakes her head. She takes it, you open with a twirl. She twirls, you've got her following your lead and you can dance. Now the ball's in your court. Time to impress her with your moves or go home to masturbate.

I'd say, since writing the original post, I still use 95% of it. It works, it's gotten me 10 lays this fall alone. But if you notice, the structure of dancing to get laid is simple; it's the dancing which is the secret. That's the part that's not included with the guide, and it's the part no other dating guru's will offer because they suck at dancing.

I gave out the dance floor game for free because this is simple shit most guys could figure out on their own after a few months. The real challenge is in how you dance with a girl, something which I've been perfecting. Once I've got a good grasp of how to teach it to others, I'll make a video about it.

Post: #65

(11-21-2011 03:31 AM)Samseau Wrote:  That video is amateur. I talk about opening with a twirl from the get-go: so basic. I can't believe that guy charged for his shitty seminar to say "SPIN AND IN".

that's funny to me too cause it's no big deal at all however men are pussies so someone in charge needed to show them where their balls are at

(11-21-2011 03:31 AM)Samseau Wrote:  First of all, opening with a twirl is pathetic bullshit. It's the first dance move you need to do, but it's not how you open. You open by offering the girl your hand. And before you offer your hand, you should be doing some good solo dancing to display your dancing prowess. If she doesn't take your hand, then you find another girl. This is how you avoid being beaten by her boyfriend/friends. I go solo to dance clubs everywhere and I only get attacked by crazy bitches once in a blue moon. I've never come close to being seriously injured.

maybe, i don't know. i don't like it cause i feel weird waiting for her to accept my hand..

- i put responsibility in her hands in a 'do you want me?' fashion

- she usually needs to see how good i dance before she can accept my hand. and i don't really dance like it's more like, let's say, i enjoy myself. it's wild and unpredictable moves like grabbing girls, shaking our asses, dancing with 3 girls together, jumping to the chorus of the song, tossing girls etc.

- essentially it's a time waster for me as too many i've been in that situation where i offered her my hand like a perfect gentleman and danced with her for 15 minutes having a blast only to be politely informed that her BF is cool enough to let me fool around with her a bit. however everytime i go hard like tim i know right away whether she wants me or not. i know that when she backs off immediately it's gonna flop. i've had girls giggling waving their hands in motion of "no no no" saying "no, not like THAT". that's my que. she would dance with me like friend with friend for hours but not like man with woman. i'm thankful for that information. i know right away what's up. it's screening.

also, i 've never been in fight cause when he BF confronts me i respectfully and instantly back off, validate him that he has such cute GF and everything is cool. like "yeah she IS very attractive and really WANTED to dance with her. props for having such cute GF man, respect". people respect me as i handle it like a man like. it's great how being respectful and cool like that eliminates all of the trouble.

- i noticed that girls are not impressed that much when they see a guy peering and obviously seeking signals to make a move. yes it's polite etc but not exactly the "omg god!!" experience i want to create for her that she will gossip and boast about for the whole week with her girl friends. they really just want to be taken (by someone cool obviously).

but again, that's just me

good luck

Post: #66

You can offer a girl your hand without looking like a beta.

For example, face your body away from her, and extend your arm out to her from the side.
Or you can hold your hand up like you want a high five, but then grab it as she reaches for it.
Or you can touch her shoulder then move your hand down to her side near her hand, and lightly pull it in.

The point is not to just run up and start grinding/dancing, that has never gotten me a lay. I'm sure some guys have gotten laid, but the rate of return on that has got to be abysmally low. On the other hand, I've had some very hot girls come up to me and start grinding me, which is obviously okay.

Offering your hand seperates you from most men in the club. It keeps their guard down and actually keeps your value high, since you aren't investing much time or energy right off the bat. Which is more beta: a guy running in like a party animal, going crazy and flirting, or a guy who just offers the hand to see if there's any interest before taking things further? Why waste time?

Post: #67

umm.. yeah.. maybe.

all of this 'which is more beta/alpha' BS is irrelevant to me AS LONG AS i'm carefree and give girls some real excitement. i like what i do cause me and girls find it fun which is exactly the purpose of the party anyway. nobody can say "oh another needy lame ass" when they see me with happy girls laughing, dancing and having a blast with me.

PS. alpha/beta speculation is quite similar the mindset most men have when they go out. they really really want to hit the club and pick up chicks but when they're inside they get massively stuck in their head worrying about the right performance (impressing others) and how they come across others instead of not giving a fuck and being the party others can enjoy.

Post: #68

Quote:nobody can say "oh another needy lame ass" when they see me with happy girls laughing, dancing and having a blast with me.

No, they are just gonna think you're another crazy party guy at the club. Why should they want to bang you as a result of that?

Compare that to offering her your hand, so now you are leading the dance, moving her as you please. She's following your lead, and you get to put her in whatever position you want.

Tell you what man, next time you're out on the dance floor:

Do your regular thing. But when you see a girl you're interested in, offer her your hand. Then move her into a twirl. See what happens.

Post: #69

This forum always gives me great impulses to try out new stuff. Thanks for the thread, Samseau.

I went to a beginners Salsa lesson today: it was a lot of fun and did not cost me anything. They had a live percussion combo, a cool male instructer and a very cute female one.

Three quarters of the students were hot woman in their early 20s.

Still hypnotized by the movements and the eye contact of that fine ass female instructer on the elevated platform in front of me. I do need one of those! Will be an amazing fuck.

As always, it will take some work to get good at it. You have to be humble as a beginner. I will be back and learn it.

Post: #70

(11-21-2011 10:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:  You can offer a girl your hand without looking like a beta.

For example, face your body away from her, and extend your arm out to her from the side.
Or you can hold your hand up like you want a high five, but then grab it as she reaches for it.
Or you can touch her shoulder then move your hand down to her side near her hand, and lightly pull it in.

Yeah grabbing the hand while in the air is a good way to engage her. Offering the hand while she's on the floor doesn't work for me as good as while she is seated and I kneel to her.

Recently, the best way for me at getting her engaged on the dance floor is making eye contact then gently but assertively taking hold of her wrist. It makes it less easy for her to "innocently" pull her hand away and leaves no doubt that you want her to dance. I don't know why the "wrist grab" works more than grabbing her hand - maybe because I'm not bending over to grab the wrist as I am when I take the hand. I still get rejects but not as many when using that method of getting her to dance with me.

Post: #71

Another move that has gotten me some nice booty contact on the floor is when I see a hot girl getting ready to pass behind me. The ideal would be to turn around and face her but sometimes there isn't enough time and the unpredictability factor is a benefit. I simply look out the corner of my eye, gauge the position of her hand. Then I reach behind very discreetly (not making eye contact) grabbing the girl's hand and using her momentum from walking to swing her to my front (kinda like salsa). If she does't brush your hand away then she'll actually be quite surprised that you pulled a move like that which works in your favor- continue the interaction from there.

Post: #72

Long time lurker first time poster.

Samseau, King of dance floor game I need some help.
I will start my world travel mini retirement this year in
Thailand.

I am from Munich in Germany. I am 38 years old.
I am interested in dance floor game abroad "advanced" level.

I did "Disco King" competitions in the past.
I am training dancing almost everyday in front of the mirror.
My dancing style is a mix of Michael Jackson, Popping, Hip Hop.
It is dominated by the musik. My style is partybreak.

This is my favourite partybreak:

Keywords: "DJ Beatmaster , Masterbreak Vol.5" you can watch it
on youtube.

But I also do like general dance pop.

I did Salsa, Merengue, Bachata. It was nice but I had the
feeling that it´s not really my style and not my music as I am not a latin guy.

In germany most people are not in to dancing. As I want to start my "mini
retirement world travel" this year I thought maybe you have some ideas
how to use my dancing skills to game hot dancers.


After a while it becomes boring when girls can not dance.
I want to know the locations with good dancers in the
above metioned style. Do you think contacting hip-hop
classes through internet would be hepful, has anybody
experience with that? I would like to have a wing man who
has good dancing skills that would be fun. Have you an idea
how to find one?

Post: #73

+ rep, wonderful post.
I do a little Salsa dancing, which is a great way to interact with chicks in Northern Europe, where the great majority of guys simply don't dance at all. You learn some game at the same time, because Latin dances require the male to be very dominant. You don't have to be great, but if at some point you are the best male dancer in the room (which will happen frequently after you've practised for, say, a couple of years) you'll have the girls virtually lining up. Since Salsa takes some practice to get good at, even for women, they are typically not overweight either.

Post: #74

Bill - I wish I knew the best spots around the world for dancing pickup.

A goal of mine is to explore the world and find these places. What you'll notice is that different types of dances are dominant in different regions, Salsa in Latin America, Swing Dancing in Westernized countries, for example.

Hip Hop dance classes, and dance classes in general, are no substitute for solid practice. You need to dance as much as possible without worrying about getting laid at first if you want to succeed at dance floor game. If you want, take a few classes from an instructor but always quit them after a month. If you want more instruction, find different instructors. The best way to improve dancing skill from instructors is to learn from many people.

Furthermore, as far as where you should go: Use your mini-retirement to travel to many places and visit major cities with known dancing centers. Usually capital cities are best for this, but not always. Going off the beaten-path to find good dance centers will bring you more hot pussy due to less competition from other dancers.

Finding good dance venues is 40% of the challenge of having good-dance floor game, but once you do it's literally tons of pussy in the promised land.

Post: #75

Samseau, thanks for your reply. I don´t want to take classes but I thought of making
connections via internet with people in the classes to get the chance to connect with them
to create a social circle to have more fun in the disco.

I love to develop skills and funny moves in discos by dancing one on one and in a group. For me dancing is more important than getting laid. But getting laid is an awesome side effect of dancing. I am not shure that going to the venues is the only possibility to create a dancing environment.

For example I organized dancing parties where there were no stools allowed. There wasn´t even
alcohol or something to drink. Just water. I invited only people who liked to dance. So everybody
knew that the focus of the party was dancing. And with these people going to discos was
always a lot of fun. I played like 70% world disco music and 30% Merengue, Bachate, Salsa.
But Salsa in a simplified form that is dancing merengue with salsa moves. Learning real
salsa has low ROI for me..

But organizing these things in thailand for example I have no idea how to do it. The competition
of the other guys IMHO is not really my problem. I love to make dance fun battles with
guys and get inspired by them but the problem is they are simply not good enough as I have
training experience more than 20 years of constant training.

I had player friends where I was so dissapointed because there was no way that they
develop acceptable dancing skills. IMHO dancing is the natural form of game.

Samseau, do you feel comfortable with a wing man who has no dancing skills respectivly with a
girl who can´t dance?