Post: #1

I went to a punk show solo yesterday and didn't feel like going home so I showed up in slacks and a button up. Of course, I was the only one dressed up. A few girls eye fucked me and 3made the move for me to approach (sitting next to me when there was a million other seats, rubbing up against me on purpose). My question is do y'all actually think there might be an advantage to standing out at venues? I would of fit in with everyone else if I wore jeans and a t.

Post: #2

Not in that situation. Most people will be attracted to like minded individuals with things they have in common. Granted there is exceptions to the rule, as you experienced imo.

Thats diff than say a white guy standing out at a latin club.

You want to wear and look to what you think that target demographic likes the most. You NEVER see emo chicks with say business guys. Emo chicks almost exclusively date emo dudes. You dont see hood latina chicks dating white dudes in kakis. You dont see business women dating thugs. If I was rolling to a punk/emo venue id wear the flyest freshest punk/emo threads I could find.

General rule of thumb is you want to be the nicest dressed person in the venue still within the accepted norms and likes of demographic base.

Post: #3

"My question is do y'all actually think there might be an advantage to standing out at venues?"

Seemed like it worked for you, didn't it?

It kind of amazes me for all the "be an alpha, be your own Man, be unique" stuff that is preached on here, when it comes to clothing, time and time again, people one here advocate dressing like everyone else, hoping to fit in, and following the herd.

Most recent example: /thread-4984-post-64953.html (Although almost every thread on clothing on here you will notice it).

Dress like everyone else and you will get what everyone else gets.

(Which is nothing).

Post: #4

This is a big question I've always had especially when dealing with "alternative" girls who run towards a way of style/life thats far from the norm, punk, goth, emo, scenester.

I'm a firm believer in stand out, as long as you stand out for the right reason, but with girls like that I've noticed both ways going well. They guys dressed like them "think" like them, but doesn't mean thats what they want. I think your swagger would have more effect here.

If you went to that show and you just stood there, really stick up your ass like, and made it clear you were out of place then they would've noticed that and you'd be "The guy who doesn't belong" If you were into it though, then you were the closet punk who had some mystery about him because he didnt fit THEIR norm.

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Post: #5

(06-12-2011 09:04 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  "My question is do y'all actually think there might be an advantage to standing out at venues?"

Seemed like it worked for you, didn't it?

It kind of amazes me for all the "be an alpha, be your own Man, be unique" stuff that is preached on here, when it comes to clothing, time and time again, people one here advocate dressing like everyone else, hoping to fit in, and following the herd.

Most recent example: /thread-4984-post-64953.html (Although almost every thread on clothing on here you will notice it).

Dress like everyone else and you will get what everyone else gets.

(Which is nothing).

Truth.

The other night I went out in one of those expensive Ralph Lauren Polos. I've promised my self I'll never buy another one of those again because everytime I go out in it there are 5 other dudes with the same shirt. LOL

Robert Greene said in his book the 48 Laws of power:
Court Attention at all Cost
Everything is judged by its appearance; what is unseen counts for nothing. Never let yourself get lost in the crowd, then, or buried in oblivion. Stand out. Be conspicuous, at all cost. Make yourself a magnet of attention by appearing larger, more colorful, more mysterious, than the bland and timid masses.

Post: #6

Good points everyone. Gman what do you think about my v neck and jeans threads? I like to keep it plain, look good, and and keep it somewhat fashionable. I'm not one to wear some off the wall shit and try to stand out. I think if you dress at least a little classy and neat, you'll have these sluts looking everywhere you go.

Post: #7

a nice vneck and pair of nice fitting embroidered denim is my fav most comfortable look.

Post: #8

(06-12-2011 09:10 AM)Chad Daring Wrote:  This is a big question I've always had especially when dealing with "alternative" girls who run towards a way of style/life thats far from the norm, punk, goth, emo, scenester.

As someone who has been involved with various subcultures throughout my life, I will say that trying to amend your style just to get some hipster girl or whatever probably isn't worth it. Faking it just to get some pussy also seems weak.

A lot of my friends were involved in the punk scene growing up, and trust me you wouldn't want to deal with the bullshit that comes with a lot of these girls (drugs, parental issues, psychological problems). They tend to also be less attractive than "normal" girls. They're attracted to these scenes because on some fundamental level they know they cannot compete with the females who have looks and personalities that are more conventionally attractive. Thus girls in these scenes tend to be more manly, bitchy, confrontational, and (in my experience) harder to game than the "normal" ones. When I'm at a concert the most normal and attractive looking girls in those venues actually tend to be the most receptive to gaming.

I love a lot of the music but the girls tend to get involved in this stuff for the wrong reasons. "My boyfriend in the band got me into the scene", etc.

Post: #9

Treat each night like an experiment:

"I wonder how people will react to me when I wear this shirt/pants/shoes?"

Post: #10

(06-13-2011 08:14 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  [Punk or other scene-type girls] tend to also be less attractive than "normal" girls. They're attracted to these scenes because on some fundamental level they know they cannot compete with the females who have looks and personalities that are more conventionally attractive. Thus girls in these scenes tend to be more manly, bitchy, confrontational, and (in my experience) harder to game than the "normal" ones. When I'm at a concert the most normal and attractive looking girls in those venues actually tend to be the most receptive to gaming.

Ah, I never made the connection that the brusque, kinda bitchy manner of many punk women is a strategy to cover up naturally weak and unfeminine personal skills, rather than something they choose to do just to play up a character (though I'm sure some socially skilled and pleasant women do that).

Tim