Post: #51

How about turning it back to her and getting her to qualify further?

"Oh you want a drink? How about this, if you can make me genuinely laugh in the next 5 minutes, I'll get you one" and then quickly transition into talking about something else.

Post: #52

No need to think of anything special.
"I don't buy drinks for other people".

Post: #53

(08-17-2015 10:43 AM)turuk Wrote:  "No, I'm cheap."

I actually like this one, if delivered in a neutral tone. But then again, I like saying absurd things.

Post: #54

Why even talk? Let body language do the heavy lifting.

I would put on a smirky smile, look her in her eyes for at least 5 seconds or as long as it takes to make her uncomfortable. Just to see how she reacts. If she looks or seems apolegetic about it (realizing her misbehavior), then you're probably OK and then you say something like: yeah, how about a shot of ....

Any girl who is seriously interested, will happily take that shot with you. Take it from there.

If she keeps a straight face and thus basically demands a very expensive drink, then get the hell out of dodge.

Post: #55

(08-17-2015 12:12 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 10:46 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Turuk, those responses are awful.

yea?

Yes.

Post: #56

The issue I have with saying no, especially if it's the first time, is it makes you look cheap and quality girls do not like a cheap man. I think saying "Alright, I'll get this round, if you promise to get the next" in a cheeky tone is a lot better than straight out saying you refuse to buy drinks. Then if she doesn't offer to get the next round after the first drink, just playfully tease her about it and say things like "Well, looks like we're done for the night". If she gets aggressive the bitch obviously has princess syndrome so run for the hills.

Post: #57

(08-17-2015 04:09 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:12 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 10:46 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Turuk, those responses are awful.

yea?

Yes.

You want an awful response? How about this:

"No, because if I buy you a drink, you legally can't consent to sex, and I would be held responsible for whatever happens to you."

That's an awful response.

Post: #58

I find it so low when I girl asks me to buy her a drink that I'm completely turned off.

I usually just laugh and say no and turn away and talk to a different girl. I don't have time for girls like this.

If she's asking to buy her a drink and you just met her, imagine what other wild things she's got up her sleeves. There's plenty of other girls.

Post: #59

(08-17-2015 05:13 AM)Suits Wrote:  Has anyone ever banged a girl who demanded a drink?

Now that I think about it, no. This reminds me of one time a married Korean woman (married to American dude who wasn't there) was hitting on me in a bar. She had already bought me a round, so I offered to buy her a drink. Another Korean woman friend of hers who was standing nearby heard me and bounced over and said, "Yea! Buy us a drink!"

I just stood there staring at her with a WTF? look on my face. The woman who was hitting on me grabbed her friend and took her aside and said something and her friend disappeared and I didn't see her again the rest of the night.

I was only partially game aware at the time but looking back on it now it affirms that one way to tell if a girl is interested in you is how she acts about who is buying who drinks.

By the way, I didn't bang the woman because I later saw her in better light and she wasn't very good looking.

Post: #60

(08-17-2015 05:13 AM)Suits Wrote:  Has anyone ever banged a girl who demanded a drink?

I can remember two instances where I was feeling nice/drunk enough to buy a chick a drink in the past year or two.

The first one, after she got it she handed it to her friend and asked for another. Not being very game aware but still knowing enough to feel like a chump I reached over and took it from her friend and downed it in front of them. Of course they got pissed off and walked away but I was 99% sure nothing was going to happen after that.

Another when I was with a forum member I chill with in Osaka from time to time. I forget which of us decided to do so but we bought these two girls drinks he had met the week or so before. Not even 1 minute after they get the drinks they said they need to "go to the bathroom". Those two clever girls got away before I could re appropriate the beverage I had purchased.

I don't generally advise taking things out of the hands of the girls there. But it fits my personality and no one would do anything to me here, or at least that is the mindset I have correct or no.


As for OP.

It seriously sounds like the chick was fishing. Who honestly asks for a bottle from someone they just met? Like someone else said earlier, the counter offer for her to buy the first round is probably your best bet.

Not only does it force her to expend resources for you, but it also means she is willing to devote the time to you to finish both drinks. As well as not being offensive in the least.

Post: #61

I just laugh in their faces and walk away.

Girls who are so shamelessly brazen that they demand you buy them drinks don't even deserve a "no."

As was mentioned earlier, OP was seemingly worried about keeping the girl when the fact is, in those kind of situations, you never had the girl in the first place.

The second you realize that she sees you as nothing but a limitless ATM, she deserves not one more second of your time.

Post: #62

Buying a drink will get a "thanks for the drink, see you around" with a 2-second smile. Is this worth $10? And the alpha male will bring her home without spending one penny.

It goes the same way with most girls. The beta pays, the alpha fucks. Just like AldoKelevra said, this should turn you off to the point of not even wanting to spend more time with her.

A generic answer to "buy me something", not just for drinks, is "I am very generous when I decide by myself to offer something".

Post: #63

This comes down to what I call "money game".

One of the most beta things you can do is lead with money. It's basically conveying that you're a total loser, and you have to buy their time and affection. If girls sense you're just a thirsty beta with a few bucks to blow, they will walk all over you, take your cash, and then go home and blow the bartender.

Throwing around money does not make you cool, nor is it a substitute for actual game.

Like all things, it depends on the circumstances. Trying to buy a woman's affections is a waste of time and money, plus it's ineffective. If she's interested, she will want to have a drink with you and be willing to pay for it. Make her invest in the interaction. If she's just expecting free drinks, she's not all that interested.

Sometimes it's appropriate to buy a girl a drink. I don't mean "hey, you just sat down next to me, let's pop a bottle of Dom", but more "Have you ever tried this [random whiskey / beer]? My treat."

If I've banged a girl, and been doing so on the regular, I usually pay for everything. Not to impress her, but because I feel like doing what I feel like doing and they usually can't afford it. After a day of banging, cheese sticks at TGI Fridays isn't going to cut it. She's doing well on the boner test, and I'm in the mood for a good steak and fine whiskey. And I recognize she you works [at a stupid non-profit / in healthcare / education] and can't afford my tastes. So I just pay and we move on.

Not sure if any of that is helpful, but having money doesn't mean having game. There are plenty of servers, bartenders, actors, cooks, and guitarists making minimum wage but getting plenty of poon. There are also plenty of rich dudes not getting any, who think that landing women is way more complicated than it is.

Post: #64

Posters here need to make the distinction between "a" drink (one glass) and the situation OP was in. In OP's situation she asking him to buy a 30 euro bottle of champagne after a few minutes of conversation.
Unless you're in a high end club, a glass won't cost you more than 5 euros.

In my opinion, making a counter offer by saying something like "you buy the next round" is a huge mistake. How many girls have you met who spend money on you for even one drink, let alone a 30 euro bottle?
Unless you're dating or at least are fully making out and touching allover in the club and you're getting string signals she's very much into you, I wouldn't risk more than one glass on someone who seems to be an obvious golddigger.

A girl who is brazen enough to ask you for a bottle, has no problem with leaving you with a dumb look on your face after the bottle is empty.

I remember going out lots of times with Christian McQueen in Hollywood. Dude got free tables and bottles since he was a promoter. Every time a bottle was on the table, girls came out if every nook and corner to drink (and talk), just to dissapear as soon as the bottle was empty.

Post: #65

(08-18-2015 03:30 AM)Spike Wrote:  I remember going out lots of times with Christian McQueen in Hollywood. Dude got free tables and bottles since he was a promoter. Every time a bottle was on the table, girls came out if every nook and corner to drink (and talk), just to dissapear as soon as the bottle was empty.

May I ask, did you participate in McQueens training program? If that is the extent of what he's up to, getting tables and bottles in clubs, then I don't see what value there would be to take away from that. Your average joe doesn't have those connections in order to replicate the scenario, and its not really effective anyway, as demonstrated in your anecdote. I don't know the guy, maybe I'm missing something.

Post: #66

I met Christian way before he started his training programs.

I never believed in bottle service or balling in any situation. Its great if you have some cash to spent in a club to buy a drink or two but that's it. During my stay in LA and NY I've seen countless examples of guys with tables not getting any attention from girls at all unless there were free drinks for them.

Its purely an American club system. Barely seen it anywhere else in the world. Might have to do with the fact that capitalism is God in your country. No offense, it is what it is.

Post: #67

(08-18-2015 03:30 AM)Spike Wrote:  A girl who is brazen enough to ask you for a bottle, has no problem with leaving you with a dumb look on your face after the bottle is empty.

I remember going out lots of times with Christian McQueen in Hollywood. Dude got free tables and bottles since he was a promoter. Every time a bottle was on the table, girls came out if every nook and corner to drink (and talk), just to dissapear as soon as the bottle was empty.

Hey can you please elaborate on this. This summer Hollywood has been a prime spot for me and some buddies to do daygame and nightgame.
But several of my old wingman friends are now promoters and do the free bottle service and table stuff to get girls to come to their club. They're very young promoters and are new on the scene so they're trying to make a name for themselves so that they can rise up.
Usually I will just send the numbers of girls who's numbers I got through gaming if I did not kiss or fuck the girl.

I can see easily see right through these fake bitches that actually show up since they are only using my friends for the free drinks and club entry so that they can post on social media pictures and videos of themselves there so that they can get extra online validation since a great majority of them are attention whores.

If it wasn't for the free club stuff these bitches wouldn't give my promoter friends much attention because being in LA alot of these Bitches have this inflated sense of entitlement and think they deserve that stuff just for existing. Unfortunately my promoter friends are perpetuating that false sense entitlement so that they can receive a certain cash payout per head that shows up on their guestlist.

Is there any advice can can recommend my old wingman buddies who are now getting into the promoter scene here in Hollywood?
Thanks.

Post: #68

I think I don't have much to add to your post. As I said, it's really an American system the rest of the world isn't that familiar with. I can't speak for all countries in the world but I've been to 64 of them now. Can't remember much places where the bottle thing is normalised. Sure, clubs have tables but no bottle is required to sit at them and more importantly no one is willing to pay for it since its considered a weird system.

Your promoter friends should contact Christian for tips.

Post: #69

(08-16-2015 07:10 PM)turuk Wrote:  She wanted those small bottle champagne. They are still 30 euro per bottle.

30 euros ? Outrageous. Fuck that.
She's on commission from the bar.

Doesn't come close to passing the smell test.

I like the non-answer and laugh suggestions best. They non-answer here in the Philippines all the fucking time and I don't like it, but it's to reasonable questions
not shit like that.

Post: #70

One of my old buddies used to deal with this by telling them he was going to get them a drink called the "blue dolphin", and then tell them it's so great that you can't even taste the alcohol in it. He'd then proceed get them a martini glass full of water with a cherry garnish.

Post: #71

I was just thinking about this. If 30 euro wasn't a big deal for you, the ultimately troll would be to buy the bottle, then just put a straw in it and start drinking. "Oh sorry, this ones just for me"

Post: #72

This is my reaction when a girl asks me if I'm going to buy her a drink
   
Throws them off-guard. If they insist then I'll point to the nearest AFC I can see and suggest she get him to buy her a drink.

Post: #73

I disagree with the entire premise on whether or not you should buy them a drink or not. As in I disagree that it's something worth giving significant attention to.

I think it's something that newbies are concerned with. I think it's just falls into the background once you get some experience in the game and everything is relatively on point with your looks, wit, style etc.

You hit a spot, walk up to a cute girl and get a couple drinks for her or whoever your with and you just go about your game.

They wouldn't even have to ask me to buy them a drink. If I opened them and I was digging her look and her vibe I will just buy her a fucking drink and then let my game do the talking. I'm there to communicate a fun vibe with her and get her comfortable so I can get it going.

If I have to confidence to go out and game a chick directly I'm not gonna sweat a drink or two. If I go out and chat to a cute girl and I know I'm looking sharp I'm just going to get her one. I think this is something that comes with better screening.

I guarantee you that if you fail to succeed it isn't going to have anything to do with whether or not you bought her a drink or not.

That said, girls that come out and ask directly will you buy me a drink, which I understand was part of the OPs original question then I would bounce as those are probably the types of girls that ain't worth the hassle.

However, when I spot a girl who I can tell is a little lower caliber and a bit of a slut I probably won't bother and will just proceed with some more asshole type game. The damaged ones eat it up. This again also comes down to your ability to screen.

My two cents.

Post: #74

(08-17-2015 09:53 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:  The issue I have with saying no, especially if it's the first time, is it makes you look cheap and quality girls do not like a cheap man. I think saying "Alright, I'll get this round, if you promise to get the next" in a cheeky tone is a lot better than straight out saying you refuse to buy drinks. Then if she doesn't offer to get the next round after the first drink, just playfully tease her about it and say things like "Well, looks like we're done for the night". If she gets aggressive the bitch obviously has princess syndrome so run for the hills.

That is what I thought too.

(08-17-2015 04:09 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 12:12 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(08-17-2015 10:46 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Turuk, those responses are awful.

yea?

Yes.

Yea?

Post: #75

(08-17-2015 11:38 PM)AldoKelevra Wrote:  I find it so low when I girl asks me to buy her a drink that I'm completely turned off.

I usually just laugh and say no and turn away and talk to a different girl. I don't have time for girls like this.

If she's asking to buy her a drink and you just met her, imagine what other wild things she's got up her sleeves. There's plenty of other girls.

Too be honest if this situation happened in a big club I wouldn't even cared. Because this happened in a small bar and the other girls in the bar weren't interesting to me although there were other girls who showed IOI they weren't interesting to me. There was scarcity of girls I liked in the bar. I have to admit that I just didn't want to burn bridges with her. That is why I tried other things other than complying to her. There is still no way I would pay a drink for her without an investment from her side but like I explained I tried to pull her home and said we should drink something at my place.