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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
(08-11-2015 09:43 AM)Guitarman Wrote: I thought they both threw beer?
If you look at the reaction of Roosh's head in the video, it goes back and to the left....back and to the left. Its impossible that there was just one beer thrower in the book depository building, there had to be another on the grassy knoll.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
Not that I'm a lawyer, but I'd think that Roosh has a (legal) beef with every person in that mob. Not just with Lelievre. Being followed by a mob shouting threats is a serious and potentially very dangerous affair due to mob psychology. Reasonable standards of behavior can break down in mobs and violence is much more likely than at other times. Even if there is no numerical advantage.
And as has been said. These fools have recorded and published the evidence against themselves. Very accommodating. It's difficult to reconcile such stupidity with the high reported standards of education in Canada. These protesters need to understand that the media and the law are not the same things at all. Media essentially "incite" people in all sorts of ways to behave badly. It doesn't mean that there will be no consequences. Media outlets have caused behavior that has gotten people into deep, deep trouble. Up to and including the death penalty. Obviously no death penalty in Canada, but the consequences only seem remote to these people because, well...their brains are not firing on all cylinders.
On a separate note:
This may seem a little mean, but with people who behave in such a classless fashion it is probably justified. They have already published their stupid video showing their violent and classless behavior in a PUBLIC forum. So, if you know who they are make sure the video gets seen by the people in various relationships with them in a way that would cause them embarrassment. I know, you're going to say that they have so little class that they are incapable of embarrassment, but you'd be wrong. There is someone in their life who, should they see this video, it would cause them deep embarrassment. Maybe even shame. Especially the lovely lady(ha) shouting "Eat my cunt". Probably not siblings or parents, the parents are almost certainly quite severely messed up themselves. Grandparents would be a good bet.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
(08-11-2015 07:29 AM)Dirty Dan Wrote: (08-10-2015 02:34 PM)GlobalMan Wrote: I'm not on board with the whole "email her employer" stuff mentioned earlier in the thread. We put the information out there, and let the chips fall where they will. As vile as the woman is, I don't want to live in a society where people contact your employer and tell them what you said/did. It could just as easily be done to one of us, and there would be a hell of a lot less sympathy for our views. If her employer finds the story or find out about the charges thats great, I'd celebrate that, but emailing to try to get people fired... leaves a bad taste and continues a bad trend.
Its no different than what happened to Linux in his Colombia thread, someone specifically contacted one of his girls he cared for and told her about the thread. If she found it on her own, fair enough.
I disagree. Comparing to this case to that of Linux is an apples and oranges case. The girl did that out of jealousy and revenge. This on the other hand is a much serious matter. The mob chased Roosh back to his apartment building and even tried to enter it. If he and Lothario had not kept a cool head then this would have turned into an ugly situation. Would you like to have a group like that at your university or company? What if you had a little brother going to the same school at her who had views similar to Roosh. The problem here is that this woman here is over entitled and spoiled. She has probably been getting away with stuff like this all her life and if she is not made to realize that her actions have consequences then just as a criminal here acts will get more dangerous and bolder.
You are misunderstanding what happened in the Colombia thread. But that's beside the point.
The correct action was taken against the mob- people were identified and exposed publicly, a police report was filed. Let that take its course.
I do not believe personally contacting someone's employer to tell them about something an employee has said or done is the way things should work. If an employer discovers the information, fantastic. You're implying I don't share the disgust with the woman- I do. That doesn't mean I agree with with an "anything goes" solution, that is no different than the mob. We take the the legal and moral actions needed and leave the underhanded crap to the degenerates, otherwise its just a race to the bottom.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
(08-11-2015 03:45 PM)GlobalMan Wrote: (08-11-2015 07:29 AM)Dirty Dan Wrote: (08-10-2015 02:34 PM)GlobalMan Wrote: I'm not on board with the whole "email her employer" stuff mentioned earlier in the thread. We put the information out there, and let the chips fall where they will. As vile as the woman is, I don't want to live in a society where people contact your employer and tell them what you said/did. It could just as easily be done to one of us, and there would be a hell of a lot less sympathy for our views. If her employer finds the story or find out about the charges thats great, I'd celebrate that, but emailing to try to get people fired... leaves a bad taste and continues a bad trend.
Its no different than what happened to Linux in his Colombia thread, someone specifically contacted one of his girls he cared for and told her about the thread. If she found it on her own, fair enough.
I disagree. Comparing to this case to that of Linux is an apples and oranges case. The girl did that out of jealousy and revenge. This on the other hand is a much serious matter. The mob chased Roosh back to his apartment building and even tried to enter it. If he and Lothario had not kept a cool head then this would have turned into an ugly situation. Would you like to have a group like that at your university or company? What if you had a little brother going to the same school at her who had views similar to Roosh. The problem here is that this woman here is over entitled and spoiled. She has probably been getting away with stuff like this all her life and if she is not made to realize that her actions have consequences then just as a criminal here acts will get more dangerous and bolder.
You are misunderstanding what happened in the Colombia thread. But that's beside the point.
The correct action was taken against the mob- people were identified and exposed publicly, a police report was filed. Let that take its course.
I do not believe personally contacting someone's employer to tell them about something an employee has said or done is the way things should work. If an employer discovers the information, fantastic. You're implying I don't share the disgust with the woman- I do. That doesn't mean I agree with with an "anything goes" solution, that is no different than the mob. We take the the legal and moral actions needed and leave the underhanded crap to the degenerates, otherwise its just a race to the bottom.
To be honest, I have no idea as to what happened in Colombia with Linux. I made assumptions there. Sorry about that.
I now understand what you are saying when it comes to reporting people to employers and would not recommend that someone report her. But I believe that this situation is a little different. If I were a person who had/has affiliations with Concordia University then I would prefer that someone reports such behavior to the university. Her actions sully the name of the university and what it stands for which ultimately affects the prospects of every other student. Add to this what I said in my previous post, these people would could do violent things at school events and I wouldn't want someone I care about being around people like these just for the sake of safety.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
(08-11-2015 04:00 PM)Dirty Dan Wrote: (08-11-2015 03:45 PM)GlobalMan Wrote: (08-11-2015 07:29 AM)Dirty Dan Wrote: (08-10-2015 02:34 PM)GlobalMan Wrote: I'm not on board with the whole "email her employer" stuff mentioned earlier in the thread. We put the information out there, and let the chips fall where they will. As vile as the woman is, I don't want to live in a society where people contact your employer and tell them what you said/did. It could just as easily be done to one of us, and there would be a hell of a lot less sympathy for our views. If her employer finds the story or find out about the charges thats great, I'd celebrate that, but emailing to try to get people fired... leaves a bad taste and continues a bad trend.
Its no different than what happened to Linux in his Colombia thread, someone specifically contacted one of his girls he cared for and told her about the thread. If she found it on her own, fair enough.
I disagree. Comparing to this case to that of Linux is an apples and oranges case. The girl did that out of jealousy and revenge. This on the other hand is a much serious matter. The mob chased Roosh back to his apartment building and even tried to enter it. If he and Lothario had not kept a cool head then this would have turned into an ugly situation. Would you like to have a group like that at your university or company? What if you had a little brother going to the same school at her who had views similar to Roosh. The problem here is that this woman here is over entitled and spoiled. She has probably been getting away with stuff like this all her life and if she is not made to realize that her actions have consequences then just as a criminal here acts will get more dangerous and bolder.
You are misunderstanding what happened in the Colombia thread. But that's beside the point.
The correct action was taken against the mob- people were identified and exposed publicly, a police report was filed. Let that take its course.
I do not believe personally contacting someone's employer to tell them about something an employee has said or done is the way things should work. If an employer discovers the information, fantastic. You're implying I don't share the disgust with the woman- I do. That doesn't mean I agree with with an "anything goes" solution, that is no different than the mob. We take the the legal and moral actions needed and leave the underhanded crap to the degenerates, otherwise its just a race to the bottom.
To be honest, I have no idea as to what happened in Colombia with Linux. I made assumptions there. Sorry about that.
I now understand what you are saying when it comes to reporting people to employers and would not recommend that someone report her. But I believe that this situation is a little different. If I were a person who had/has affiliations with Concordia University then I would prefer that someone reports such behavior to the university. Her actions sully the name of the university and what it stands for which ultimately affects the prospects of every other student. Add to this what I said in my previous post, these people would could do violent things at school events and I wouldn't want someone I care about being around people like these just for the sake of safety.
I don't disagree with you about the university issue, thats a good point. I was under the impression that she was no longer there though, so I didn't mention that. I may have that wrong.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
Funny how one could find similar occurrences throughout recent history of people tossing liquids and shouting at others to get out.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
I'm sure someone has brought this up by now but what the fuck is an "anarcho-feminist"? Did she call herself that or are we calling her that to make her sound like a retard, because anarcho-feminism is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
If there's any ideology that requires government to survive it's feminism.
I was going to post a gif but I couldn't find one that accurately expressed how retarded that phrase is, if anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
(08-11-2015 08:58 PM)iop890 Wrote: I'm sure someone has brought this up by now but what the fuck is an "anarcho-feminist"? Did she call herself that or are we calling her that to make her sound like a retard, because anarcho-feminism is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
If there's any ideology that requires government to survive it's feminism.
I was going to post a gif but I couldn't find one that accurately expressed how retarded that phrase is, if anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it.
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
Just amazed - and grateful - that the opposition was retarded and generous enough to provide all of the evidence they did.
One man's after action review:
1) Wearing a disguise didn't help much, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea. It could have just as easily worked; and perhaps it did work in another venue earlier that evening.
2) It was a smart idea being with your posse, who eventually became witnesses and near-body guards.
3) Next time you want to go someplace that could be filled with aggressive SJWs, break your crew down so you have at least one advance team member at the scene - with a recording device like a smart phone. When you show up with your posse later, your advance man is already there - and he doesn't interact with you. If shit goes down, he can record everything and pretend to be a bystander. He can link up later with the recorded evidence, or, if shit really goes badly, assist in the extraction. If the SJWs didn't provide all that evidence, your chance at successful police involvement would have been greatly reduced.
4) Recognize confrontation when it's about to get ugly. When those SJWs and their white knights began to surround you, that signaled something was coming at you. This time it was a beer, the next time it could be the whole glass against the face. You can't always predict it, but when the mood and positioning changes the way it did, it's time to adjust. Put some distance between you when it's obvious there's shit about to go down. "Glassing" guys in the face seems to be on the increase, especially in the UK.
Overall though, a hell of a job - keep up the fight!
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RE: BATTLE OF MONTREAL: Police report filed against Jessica Lelievre
HSLD
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