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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
When you're a hot chick you are literally sitting on a pile of money all the time.

Don't debate me.
08-10-2015 09:12 AM
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
(08-08-2015 12:32 AM)roberto Wrote:  This is just common knowledge from the forum re-written into one of those gay 'would you rather' things.





You absoloutely nailed it when you said 'Maybe being enabled to become a self-made man is actually the best thing?'

I actually just discussed yesterday with some friends how 'would you rather' scenarios basically fall apart among women.

Would you rather...any sexual thing with a man

...all of which women love to do. It just doesn't work. I suppose to be actual would you rather scenarios, they'd have to add in names of loser guys they know to make it interesting.

Which made me think, I'd hate walking around looking at half the population as either attractive-I-would-let-do-anything-to-my-body or disgusting-repulsive-creepy-beta-chump.

Now expand this good vs evil perspective to a societal level, and you know why we elect certain people to office.

Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent gives an interesting perspective on OP question. She's a lesbian who went undercover as a man for 18 months.

"Norah Vincent became an instant media sensation with the publication of Self-Made Man, her take on just how hard it is to be a man, even in a man’s world. Following in the tradition of John Howard Griffin (Black Like Me), Norah spent a year and a half disguised as her male alter ego, Ned, exploring what men are like when women aren’t around. As Ned, she joins a bowling team, takes a high-octane sales job, goes on dates with women (and men), visits strip clubs, and even manages to infiltrate a monastery and a men’s therapy group..."

“Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.”
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd still choose being a man.
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08-11-2015 12:18 AM
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
(08-10-2015 09:12 AM)Pride male Wrote:  When you're a hot chick you are literally sitting on a pile of money all the time.

No actually its basically sitting on a pile of money that soon starts to decrease or completely disappear.
08-13-2015 08:08 AM
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
Personally I agree that I would never trade my life as a man for a life as a hot chick, even if you sweeten the deal by 1M$ dollar.

But people gotta be joking if they tell me that a hot chick doesn’t have it easier.

All we talk about self-improvement here comes back to one thing: giving you freedom and choices.

In that respect, being a beautiful woman has a shit ton more freedom and choice than being a man.

I don’t need to reiterate on how hot girls have stuff handed to them for free, pass job interviews in a breeze, get in club for free and all the other pussy pass.

You guys all say her beauty has a depreciative asset, but we are all forgetting that this is a seller market. Girls can ride the carousel well into their late 20s and there will always be a beta guy who wife her up. Read this thread

huge slut getting a big marriage proposal And this is just an average Jane, not a hot chick.

Sure, you go on thread like this
bitches hitting the wall

and high five and think bitches got it coming for them. But ask yourself honestly, how many women you know are like this? For every one carousel rider who becomes a cat lady, I know 5-10 more who easily found a beta husband, then proceeded to either live happily ever after or divorce rape him. A girl I know from high school was a huge slut. She is now happy with a beta 12 years older. Her name is on the house certificate but he is the one paying mortgage.

Most of the married chicks out there were once carousel riders, and they found a husband just fine. I speak from field experience.

Also Scorpion is dead on. All the masculine traits we value, we value because we are already a man. Women don’t understand shit about honor, being physically stronger, developing a strong character, not having period, having logics and sense of direction, not hitting the wall. They have no need for any of this because they already have the world, the betas and the states cater to them. There will always be a captain save a hoe for a carousel rider.


Whereas getting into club for free, having people treating you nice for no reason, the states covering you, strangers (read: betas) defending you against any insult, all those stuffs are big advantages regardless of your gender. Not to mention that men are statistically more vulnerable to violence/danger than women.

Any of you who have dated a hot girl knows the truth. Sometimes you hear crap like "my hot chick is afraid that people dont take her seriously because she is pretty" Please. Being taken seriously only means something to man, and even then its just mental masturbation. Getting free stuff without having to work in your life is a tangible benefit.

Hell, I was just joking with my super alpha boss the other day. “Hey boss, if I was a girl, I would be a huge slut: I would dress sexy, go on free dinner/drink date, get invited on vacation for free, flirt with the boss and get promoted. Then when I hit 28 I’d find a husband then use his money to cheat on him then divorce and take half of his house” He laugh so hard and agreed we would both make huge sluts if we were born women Laugh

Can you blame them? Look again. Most of the game techniques we adopt to game chicks come straight out of their own books.

Ass or cash, nobody rides for free - WestIndiArchie
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
^ Are women that live like that really happy though? A lot of people are on anti-depressants.

Edit: What I mean is, ending up with a beta husband seems horrible. Even is she divorces him and tries to hop back on the carousel, her SMV is constantly decreasing and she will never find the healthy companionship that the majority of women eventually seek.
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
Man. I'm happy with my life.

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09-05-2015 04:03 PM
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
What would I rather be?

Why would anyone ever want to be an extremely attractive woman?

It may be easier, life may fall in your lap, dudes may grovel at your feet to get a taste of your pussy but what else is there. All women are is an empty vessel until they have kids. Once those kids are grown and menopause hits they are an empty vessel again. Their life is sad. They are worshipped for 15-20 years then they are nothing.

As a man you get to gain value through hard work, experience, social and general intelligence, and just plain grit and toughness. Everything you get you earn. Your value can last almost indefinitely. The more a man experiences the more life surges through him. He is not the vessel, he is the giver of life. He fills the vessel and gives it its purpose.

So anyone with a pair of nuts between their legs would want to be a man and they know why.
09-05-2015 06:39 PM
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RE: On being born as a man vs being born as an attractive woman
Women are constantly looking over their shoulder. My girlfriend will call me if she's scared walking home because there happened to be someone else out past dark. It's fucking ridiculous. Most women live in constant fear when by themselves.

I'm of average-stocky build and have never trained in any sort of combat sport, yet have no problem walking home alone. Even when walking home from the bars hammered. I live in a pretty safe city but I'm sure there were a few times when I was an open target stumbling home. My old roommate got mugged walking home once so it's not like I'm living in suburbia or anything.

After re-reading and reflecting on this thread, the freedom you have as a man greatly outweighs the benefits of being a woman. I'll take the ability to protect myself and walk through this world without worry over free drinks but freaking out every time someone passes me on the sidewalk.
09-05-2015 09:07 PM
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