Post: #26

Those Africans get caught whenever they do their crackdowns. Also some of them dissappear and no one else really knows better. They don't care much. They are there to get rich or die trying, no pun intended.

The main thing is don't get caught at the borders and airports. Even local Chinese inside have weed and stuff inside the country and like you said it isn't too hard to find like you would think. Also if you come to the US you could find dope much faster than in China. If you ask up to 5 random people one might know someone. If you asked some high school kids you might get something quick. All else fails, ask the first shitty looking person you see. That's easy to find.

Post: #27

(07-30-2015 04:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  No exceptions. Make one exception and then it starts to lose its credibility. TK's post nailed it. I was also going to mention Singapore.

Each country's laws must be respected, right or wrong in your opinion. Arrogance to think you are above a country's law should be punished. If you any of you guys walk around thinking you are better and are going to get away with shit, you will get no compassion from me. I do not operate under the ask for forgiveness later approach. I operate from, you disrespected me by thinking you could pull something over on me approach.

Remember that US kid that got caned in Singapore? People in the US were all upset, I wasn't. Fucking beat his ass if that is your law.

This is how I felt about the Australians who got caught smuggling heroin in Bali. People were acting like it was a travesty they were getting executed over it. Easy solution: If you don't want to get executed in Bali, don't try bringing dope into the country. They got what was coming to them.

Post: #28

(07-30-2015 01:22 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Nope. She is dead. China is just like Singapore. Zero tolerance on drug trafficking and is an automatic death sentence. Firing squad or lethal injection inside a white van. I have only seen locals get the suspended death sentences but that was not for drugs, it was for other stuff like politics or other serious crimes. They won't make an exception for her. If they do it will be a first ever. This all comes from that crackdown/strike hard policy many years ago.

Holy fuck TK. That's cold. I can't even imagine what must be going thru that girl's mind right now (if she's aware of what she's possibly facing). Imagine this shit, one day you're a hot model with a great future and the next day you're in China looking at the death penalty. Goddamn! I pity her.

Post: #29

^ Hey didn't you learn from the other thread? You don't know this chick. White knighting isn't the answer. If it was some random 45 year old Filipino man you wouldn't care.

Post: #30

(07-30-2015 07:00 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Hey didn't you learn from the other thread? You don't know this chick. White knighting isn't the answer. If it was some random 45 year old Filipino man you wouldn't care.

Shhhhh let the WK out themselves

Post: #31

(07-30-2015 06:51 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 01:22 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Nope. She is dead. China is just like Singapore. Zero tolerance on drug trafficking and is an automatic death sentence. Firing squad or lethal injection inside a white van. I have only seen locals get the suspended death sentences but that was not for drugs, it was for other stuff like politics or other serious crimes. They won't make an exception for her. If they do it will be a first ever. This all comes from that crackdown/strike hard policy many years ago.

Holy fuck TK. That's cold. I can't even imagine what must be going thru that girl's mind right now (if she's aware of what she's possibly facing). Imagine this shit, one day you're a hot model prostitute with a great future rapidly approaching the wall and the next day you're in China looking at the death penalty. Goddamn! I pity her. She broke the law and is going have to deal with the consequences of doing so.

Post: #32

(07-30-2015 04:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 12:52 PM)the high Wrote:  The death penalty? Wouldn't she just be deported as she's not a Chinese citizen?

Also, if someone is caught with large quantities of drugs in China they can be executed? Wow, I guess China really doesn't want to relive the opium wars.

No exceptions. Make one exception and then it starts to lose its credibility. TK's post nailed it. I was also going to mention Singapore.

Each country's laws must be respected, right or wrong in your opinion. Arrogance to think you are above a country's law should be punished. If you any of you guys walk around thinking you are better and are going to get away with shit, you will get no compassion from me. I do not operate under the ask for forgiveness later approach. I operate from, you disrespected me by thinking you could pull something over on me approach.

Remember that US kid that got caned in Singapore? People in the US were all upset, I wasn't. Fucking beat his ass if that is your law.

Quote:Michael Peter Fay (born May 30, 1975) is an American who briefly gained international attention in 1994 when he was sentenced to caning in Singapore for theft and vandalism at age 18. Although caning is a routine court sentence in Singapore, its unfamiliarity to Americans created a backlash, and Fay's case was believed to be the first caning involving an American citizen.[1] The number of cane strokes in Fay's sentence was ultimately reduced from six to four after U.S. officials requested leniency.

I remember when that happened. The punk's high school coach actually volunteered to go get his ass whipped in the kid's place. I wanted to volunteer to take the baliff's place and beat the shit out of that punk.
"How many did the judge say?"
"Six."
"Really? Let's see if spray-can boy can count to twelve!"

Post: #33

There is more information in the original Spanish article. Apparently, it's her second trip to China within the past year. That's very suspicious, especially since what she was openly buying and bringing back looks like a bunch of junk - cheap bags and sunglasses. Cheap, counterfeit Chinese handbags and sunglasses are available all over. You don't have to go to China to buy them.

The Spanish article doesn't say that she intended to sell them at her "boutique," but to her friends. Looks to me like she was drug muling on both trips. Doesn't China produce a lot of MDMA and similar drugs?

Interestingly, the comments for the article were closed because the commenters started complaining about Columbians, especially those from her area, Paisa, as being stuck-up thieves, if I understood correctly.

Post: #34

(07-30-2015 06:17 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 04:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  No exceptions. Make one exception and then it starts to lose its credibility. TK's post nailed it. I was also going to mention Singapore.

Each country's laws must be respected, right or wrong in your opinion. Arrogance to think you are above a country's law should be punished. If you any of you guys walk around thinking you are better and are going to get away with shit, you will get no compassion from me. I do not operate under the ask for forgiveness later approach. I operate from, you disrespected me by thinking you could pull something over on me approach.

Remember that US kid that got caned in Singapore? People in the US were all upset, I wasn't. Fucking beat his ass if that is your law.

This is how I felt about the Australians who got caught smuggling heroin in Bali. People were acting like it was a travesty they were getting executed over it. Easy solution: If you don't want to get executed in Bali, don't try bringing dope into the country. They got what was coming to them.

There's a little more to it than that, although the result is the same. If you're talking about Andrew Chan and Sukumarian or whatever his name was of the Bali Nine, they left Australia to go to Bali for the specific purpose of smuggling drugs back to Australia. The Australian Federal Police had been watching them and knew that was their intent when they left the country; they went on to advise their Indonesian counterparts that the nine were coming.

There's been wringing of hands by lefties who said they could have arrested the whole lot of them for conspiracy before they left Australia. (The rationale being that Australia doesn't have the death penalty for smuggling while Bali does, and that supposedly the AFP was sending them to their deaths.) The AFP for its part has maintained frame and said, in effect, "Fuck off, we couldn't have arrested them for conspiracy, and they didn't have any drugs on them when they left Australia."

That said, it doesn't change the outcome. They were deliberately intending on doing this, and they did it. And to their graves they refused to give up the ringleaders of the conspiracy, the people that had organised them to go.

Post: #35

(07-30-2015 08:34 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  And to their graves they refused to give up the ringleaders of the conspiracy, the people that had organised them to go.

Totally random thought, but I wonder if these ringleaders at least took care of the families of those that got executed. At the same time, these people must have known the consequences. What kid of hubris of delusional thinking makes you think that you will be the one to get away with it? I mean, I guess people do get away with it, but why will you be able to? Always fascinating hearing stories like this. I'd pay good money to just visit inside their brain for 30 minutes to see what the fuck they were thinking.

Post: #36

(07-30-2015 08:38 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 08:34 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  And to their graves they refused to give up the ringleaders of the conspiracy, the people that had organised them to go.

Totally random thought, but I wonder if these ringleaders at least took care of the families of those that got executed. At the same time, these people must have known the consequences. What kid of hubris of delusional thinking makes you think that you will be the one to get away with it? I mean, I guess people do get away with it, but why will you be able to? Always fascinating hearing stories like this. I'd pay good money to just visit inside their brain for 30 minutes to see what the fuck they were thinking.

The short answer here is: probably not. The reason Chan and Sukumarian gave for refusing to name the ringleaders was because they supposedly feared for their families' lives if they gave up the names. Which I find a bit of a bullshit argument given the AFP would be obliged to then protect those families if the information was going to lead to someone being arrested in Australia.

Post: #37

China is one of the world's largest manufacturer of the decongestant that is used to make methamphetamine as well as one of the key ingredients for mdma as well.

Other countries hate that because smugglers get it from there. In recent years alot more pressure was put on China to be more careful about who can buy and how much. You could buy it on taobao or alibaba in bulk. Still can last time I looked. Getting it inside your own country would be the harder part if you are not a pharmaceutical company.

Post: #38

Good for them (China and Bali). Sometimes scumbags die.

Post: #39

(07-30-2015 08:34 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 06:17 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 04:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  No exceptions. Make one exception and then it starts to lose its credibility. TK's post nailed it. I was also going to mention Singapore.

Each country's laws must be respected, right or wrong in your opinion. Arrogance to think you are above a country's law should be punished. If you any of you guys walk around thinking you are better and are going to get away with shit, you will get no compassion from me. I do not operate under the ask for forgiveness later approach. I operate from, you disrespected me by thinking you could pull something over on me approach.

Remember that US kid that got caned in Singapore? People in the US were all upset, I wasn't. Fucking beat his ass if that is your law.

This is how I felt about the Australians who got caught smuggling heroin in Bali. People were acting like it was a travesty they were getting executed over it. Easy solution: If you don't want to get executed in Bali, don't try bringing dope into the country. They got what was coming to them.

There's a little more to it than that, although the result is the same. If you're talking about Andrew Chan and Sukumarian or whatever his name was of the Bali Nine, they left Australia to go to Bali for the specific purpose of smuggling drugs back to Australia. The Australian Federal Police had been watching them and knew that was their intent when they left the country; they went on to advise their Indonesian counterparts that the nine were coming.

There's been wringing of hands by lefties who said they could have arrested the whole lot of them for conspiracy before they left Australia. (The rationale being that Australia doesn't have the death penalty for smuggling while Bali does, and that supposedly the AFP was sending them to their deaths.) The AFP for its part has maintained frame and said, in effect, "Fuck off, we couldn't have arrested them for conspiracy, and they didn't have any drugs on them when they left Australia."

That said, it doesn't change the outcome. They were deliberately intending on doing this, and they did it. And to their graves they refused to give up the ringleaders of the conspiracy, the people that had organised them to go.

They should have arrested them when they returned to Australia with the drugs.

Post: #40

(07-30-2015 09:30 PM)big poppa Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 08:34 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 06:17 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 04:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  No exceptions. Make one exception and then it starts to lose its credibility. TK's post nailed it. I was also going to mention Singapore.

Each country's laws must be respected, right or wrong in your opinion. Arrogance to think you are above a country's law should be punished. If you any of you guys walk around thinking you are better and are going to get away with shit, you will get no compassion from me. I do not operate under the ask for forgiveness later approach. I operate from, you disrespected me by thinking you could pull something over on me approach.

Remember that US kid that got caned in Singapore? People in the US were all upset, I wasn't. Fucking beat his ass if that is your law.

This is how I felt about the Australians who got caught smuggling heroin in Bali. People were acting like it was a travesty they were getting executed over it. Easy solution: If you don't want to get executed in Bali, don't try bringing dope into the country. They got what was coming to them.

There's a little more to it than that, although the result is the same. If you're talking about Andrew Chan and Sukumarian or whatever his name was of the Bali Nine, they left Australia to go to Bali for the specific purpose of smuggling drugs back to Australia. The Australian Federal Police had been watching them and knew that was their intent when they left the country; they went on to advise their Indonesian counterparts that the nine were coming.

There's been wringing of hands by lefties who said they could have arrested the whole lot of them for conspiracy before they left Australia. (The rationale being that Australia doesn't have the death penalty for smuggling while Bali does, and that supposedly the AFP was sending them to their deaths.) The AFP for its part has maintained frame and said, in effect, "Fuck off, we couldn't have arrested them for conspiracy, and they didn't have any drugs on them when they left Australia."

That said, it doesn't change the outcome. They were deliberately intending on doing this, and they did it. And to their graves they refused to give up the ringleaders of the conspiracy, the people that had organised them to go.

They should have arrested them when they returned to Australia with the drugs.

Why, exactly?

Post: #41

Carlos100. Thanks for the link.. In Spanish with my input...

La modelo paisa, Juliana López Sarrazola, fue detenida esta semana en China por llevar presuntas sustancias psicoactivas en su maleta. (Vea la galería: Ella es Juliana López, la paisa detenida en China)
Xxxxxxxxx A paisa (person from antioquia,,prob Medellin in her case) model??? As I aforementioned, these "models" usually are prostitutes in the side. They may do some sort of modelling work, but to an outsider they wouldn't be able to locate Milan or Paris ( 2 fashion cities where models actually model) on a map.

La noticia fue confirmada por Alejandro Duque, técnico de su club, Las Divas del Fútbol, quien le explicó a DIARIOADN.CO que la joven había programado su viaje hace varias semanas. "Iba a China a comprar 'souvenirs': gafas, bolsos, accesorios, para venderle a sus amigas aquí", relató. Es el segundo viaje de este tipo que realizaba al país asiático en lo corrido del año
Xxxxx,,, who goes to China to buy some cheap fake designer stuff unless you are importing a container.... Her trip costs more than what she could probably make.... How stupid is her coach for believing that...

El último contacto que la modelo de 22 años tuvo con su familia fue el pasado martes, cuando les notificó que estaba en una escala en París. Pero los días pasaron y no hubo más comunicaciones: no contestaba los correos, mensajes en Facebook o Whatsapp

Xxxxx she was lying yo her parents and family and friends about her trip.... If she was bringing fake goods, why lie?? She definitely knew what was going on.... She knew that drugs were being smuggled.... i know people who went to China to model... My cousin told me when he went, they love hanging with models ( the rich and powerful) so,,, she is like many other "models" from Colombia,,, naive, stupid and dumb. Not many are smart.

La familia entonces, preocupada, decidió acudir a la Fiscalía que de inmediato contactó a la embajada colombiana en ese país. Así se pudo establecer que la joven estaba detenida, aunque no se tienen mayores detalles sobre el tipo de sustancia encontrada en su computador, ni la Cantinad.

Xxxx why bring a laptop when your plan was to fit in a lot of fake merchandise?? She did go to China to work, but not the legitimate kind to use a laptop.

Duque se declaró sorprendido por la noticia, pues considera a Juliana como la referente de su equipo: "Es una niña tranquila, nunca le conocimos amistades o comportamientos extraños en los cuatro años que la conocemos. Ella era la que daba la cara por el club, hablaba con la prensa, era presentadora de televisión y además estudiante", dijo el técnico.

Xxxxx the coach said nice things about her. One thing about Colombianas is that they are students for a long time. Usually models don't go to school much. At 22 what was she studying?

Incluso, en los próximos días iba a estar participando en el certamen de Miss Mundo, pues también era amante de los concursos de belleza.

El directivo hizo un llamado para que la Cancillería apoye a Juliana en el proceso, pues aunque las leyes chinas contemplan pena de muerte o cadena perpetua para casos de tráfico de drogas, constitucionalmente ningún colombiano debería ser sometido a esas penas.

Xxxxx basically,,,, no Colombian should be held accountable to those penalties...... Well, if you commit a crime in Colombia, you will face the music. Maybe get a slap on the wrist,but had this person been a 45 or 50 year old maid from some estrato 1-2 like manrique n Medellin, I don't think people would care that much.

Agregó que en los próximos días Las Divas del Fútbol van a realizar un partido benéfico con artistas, para recolectar fondos que permitan que su mamá y un abogado viajen hasta China. "La situación es compleja porque allá el tráfico de drogas se castiga con la pena de muerte o cadena perpetua", apuntó Duque.

Xxxx fundraising for her mom and lawyer to travel to China. Any rvf members gonna hit the fundraiser match?


Adicionalmente, habilitaron la cuenta de ahorros Bancolombia No. 1013-31885-82 a nombre de Olga Sarrazola, para quienes deseen hacer donaciones directas.

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Xxxxxxxx sorry, using my iPad to add in commentary and not sure how to hold on here....

Like I said,,,, had this been an older poor maid, nobody would make a fuss. But, she's a young "model". Big difference. From my experience, any woman who goes to Japan or to Panama etc to model or be a nanny who is young and good looking is usually a prostitute. It's ridiculously hard to get a legitimate working visa in many counties. Trust me, My Colombian visa took mamy trips to the consulate. How these girls do it??? I have my opinion....

On Facebook, some of you may have these sorta girls as "friends" one of mine in particular was going on trips to Cartagena, putting up modelling photos ( how is she making money or how is her client making money? ) modelling for who? So I figured she's got a sugar. Or,,, a sugar who is a narco.... Doesn't matter,, I deleted her as I was tired of seeing her fake modelling career displayed with daily updates.
If you are going to date these girls, be ready to spend money..... That is money on her and her family most likely. Some of you might say who cares,,,, but if you get in some silly fight while dating, one phone call to her brother or friends ,, they can come to your place and cause a lot of headache for you. Sicarios ( hit men ) are still common... Read the Q'hubo paper, it's there.

She thought she would outsmart the Chinese on her fake shopping trip. These girls arent that intelligent. I think she knew all along what was going on and now is in big trouble. Colombia is getting more and more expensive to live in, meanwhile the average salary isn't increasing with cost of living..... I expect more and more people to be mules or try these stunts.

Post: #42

(07-30-2015 06:51 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 01:22 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Nope. She is dead. China is just like Singapore. Zero tolerance on drug trafficking and is an automatic death sentence. Firing squad or lethal injection inside a white van. I have only seen locals get the suspended death sentences but that was not for drugs, it was for other stuff like politics or other serious crimes. They won't make an exception for her. If they do it will be a first ever. This all comes from that crackdown/strike hard policy many years ago.

Holy fuck TK. That's cold. I can't even imagine what must be going thru that girl's mind right now (if she's aware of what she's possibly facing). Imagine this shit, one day you're a hot model with a great future and the next day you're in China looking at the death penalty. Goddamn! I pity her.

Colombia is full of women like her. Colombia is also one of the drug capitals of the world. Women like these are typically plucked from lower class impoverished neighborhoods by business men/people with specific interests, and built up to be used in multiple ways such as modeling, money laundering, etc etc.

Post: #43

(07-30-2015 08:34 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  There's a little more to it than that, although the result is the same. If you're talking about Andrew Chan and Sukumarian or whatever his name was of the Bali Nine, they left Australia to go to Bali for the specific purpose of smuggling drugs back to Australia. The Australian Federal Police had been watching them and knew that was their intent when they left the country; they went on to advise their Indonesian counterparts that the nine were coming.

There's been wringing of hands by lefties who said they could have arrested the whole lot of them for conspiracy before they left Australia. (The rationale being that Australia doesn't have the death penalty for smuggling while Bali does, and that supposedly the AFP was sending them to their deaths.) The AFP for its part has maintained frame and said, in effect, "Fuck off, we couldn't have arrested them for conspiracy, and they didn't have any drugs on them when they left Australia."

There's more than what you mentioned as well. The AFP only found out because the dad of one of the Bali Nine told them. The dad was concerned because his kid was a fuckup and had been in jail a few times for minor things. He found out about the Bali plan but couldn't get his dumbshit son to pull out of it, so he pleaded for the AFP to help him. The mindset was to arrest him on conspiracy and better to have him spend a few years in an Aussie prison than throw away his life. Throughout this process AFP had agreed to not involve the Indonesian police with this, and of course, they went back on their word.

Post: #44

(07-30-2015 08:43 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  China is one of the world's largest manufacturer of the decongestant that is used to make methamphetamine as well as one of the key ingredients for mdma as well.

India is also a big time precursor manufacturer too. Not all end up overseas some of the chemicals are sold into SEA where they are then cooked into methamphetamine pills (yaba) for sale around SEA. The stuff that ends up overseas in the hands of one cartel or another come directly from some corrupt individual(s) running the plant or whatever.

There is some irony in that India and China end up shipping precursors to the west so that citizens of the west can get addicted and fuck their lives up.

edit: Forgot to mention this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenli_Ye_Gon He was the precursor supplier to the Sinaloa cartel (allegedly) and got nailed with something like 200+ million in his mansion. I'm guessing he got thrown under the bus because a rival cartel bought favor with the Mexican government. Guys like this aren't exactly uncommon though they usually don't live in Mexico. That was probably his first mistake.

Post: #45

(07-31-2015 05:12 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  There's more than what you mentioned as well. The AFP only found out because the dad of one of the Bali Nine told them. The dad was concerned because his kid was a fuckup and had been in jail a few times for minor things. He found out about the Bali plan but couldn't get his dumbshit son to pull out of it, so he pleaded for the AFP to help him. The mindset was to arrest him on conspiracy and better to have him spend a few years in an Aussie prison than throw away his life. Throughout this process AFP had agreed to not involve the Indonesian police with this, and of course, they went back on their word.

The AFP is not a fucking counselling or community outreach service. They would've been insane to tip him off or stop him at the airport - what if it had blown the cover and the others disappeared into the weeds? 1.3 kg of heroin would sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars on the street, never mind where some bastard kills himself after it's cut with baking soda or laundry powder.

And the Dad you're talking about, Lee Rush, Scott Rush's father, had known his kid was into drugs for several years: he had the kid in two private schools, and Rush was kicked out of the first for drugs. He was using cannabis, ecstasy, and prescription drugs at the age of 15. At the time he got arrested in Bali, that piece of shit was wanted in Australia for thieving nearly $5,000 from a bank, and he'd been convicted at the age of 19 for fraud, drug possession, theft, and other assorteds.