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Also from that article above, I'm borrowing a quote from the (surprisingly redpill at some points) Ender's series that the author references. It's accurate:

Quote:Wasn't this whole school set up in order to find and train the best possible commanders? The Earthside testing did pretty well – there were no dolts among the students. But…how were the teachers chosen?
They were career military, all of them. Proven officers with real ability. But in the military you don't get trusted positions just because of your ability. You also have to attract the notice of superior officers. You have to be liked. You have to fit in with the system. You have to look like what the officers above you think you should look like. You have to think in ways that they are comfortable with.
The result was that you ended up with a command structure that was top-heavy with guys who looked good in uniform and talked right and did well enough not to embarrass themselves, while the really good ones quietly did all the serious work and bailed out their superiors and got blamed for errors they had advised against until they eventually got out.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/us/pol...arter.html

Quote:In a historic change for the American military, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter on Thursday announced that the Pentagon will open all combat jobs to women.

“There will be no exceptions,” Mr. Carter said at a Pentagon news conference.

The groundbreaking decision overturns a 1994 Pentagon rule that restricts women from artillery, armor, infantry and other such combat roles, even though in reality women often found themselves in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mr. Carter said that, after a three-year review, the Army, Navy, Air Force and Special Operations Command agreed that all combat positions should be open to qualified women.

Only the Marine Corps, he said, requested some exemptions.

But Mr. Carter said he overruled the Marines to open all combat positions to women because the military should operate under a common set of standards.


The Marine Corps has long held concerns that integrating women into combat units could erode morale in all-male platoons and lead to increased sexual tension that would undermine fighting capability. But a Marine Corps study made public by a women’s advocacy group this week found that after months of testing mixed-gender combat units, troops reported morale equal to that of all-male groups and higher than noncombat integrated groups.

In addition, the study found sexual assault levels no higher than in the Marines as a whole.

Nancy Duff Campbell, co-president of the National Women’s Law Center, praised the announcement.

“It’s a thrilling day for women serving in the military — and for women across the country,” she said. “We applaud today’s announcement that knocks down the last remaining official barrier to women’s military service and ensures the full integration of women into all military jobs, positions and units.”

Women have long chafed under the combat restrictions, which have prevented them from advancing in the military at the same pace as men, and they have increasingly pressured the Pentagon to catch up with the reality on the battlefield. But a major barrier fell this year when women were permitted to go through the grueling training that would allow them qualify as Army Rangers, the service’s elite infantry.
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There just better not be any reductions of standards and qualification requirements.
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Statement from USSOCOM on SECDEF's Women in Service Review Decision.





The Diversity is Strength trope is one of the first things you'll hear.
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(12-03-2015 02:08 PM)Renzy Wrote:  Statement from USSOCOM on SECDEF's Women in Service Review Decision.





The Diversity is Strength trope is one of the first things you'll hear.

Great job feminists. You wanted to do everything men get to do, now you get to die along side them in war.

This is going to be a disaster, can you imagine how many bitches will get pregnant or claim conscientious objector status if they get called to war?

Fuck, can you imagine how many will surrender immediately or defect if the enemy army is more appealing? They have no natural sense of honor or duty to begin with.

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(12-05-2015 07:05 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(12-03-2015 02:08 PM)Renzy Wrote:  Statement from USSOCOM on SECDEF's Women in Service Review Decision.





The Diversity is Strength trope is one of the first things you'll hear.

Great job feminists. You wanted to do everything men get to do, now you get to die along side them in war.

This is going to be a disaster, can you imagine how many bitches will get pregnant or claim conscientious objector status if they get called to war?

Fuck, can you imagine how many will surrender immediately or defect if the enemy army is more appealing? They have no natural sense of honor or duty to begin with.

Let them take the reigns. I believe men should not join the armed forces for 3 to 4 years, starve the machine. Let women join up and take the hit. Men have been dying for their sorry asses for thousands of years, although according to Hillary women and children are the primary victims or war.....
Let them go to war against male armies and see what happens.
Let's face it the mainland US will never be invaded in the conventional sense. The only way the US will be invaded is by stealth, i.e. immigration. I guess they're well on the way there.
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(12-05-2015 07:05 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Great job feminists. You wanted to do everything men get to do, now you get to die along side them in war.

The tragic thing is that they won't just be dying in battle. They will be mercilessly raped if captured. Don't think for an instant that the ISIS boys wouldn't sacrifice lots of fighters in order to capture a piece of American GI pussy to keep them warm at night.

And even more tragically, this probably won't even sway the leftists, whose understanding of women's ability on the battlefield is mostly informed by watching by Xena the Warrior Princess and Tombraider, when it inevitably happens.
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Has Trump taken on a position on this, does anyone know? Is this something he could or would overturn? I know a big part of his campaign platform is strengthening our military. This is about as weak and low as a nation can get.

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(12-03-2015 02:08 PM)Renzy Wrote:  Statement from USSOCOM on SECDEF's Women in Service Review Decision.





The Diversity is Strength trope is one of the first things you'll hear.

[Image: b89835_5769547.jpg]

Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
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Contrast this she-warrior to the male soldier casually sauntering across the finish line of a 12 mile march.

I'm not sure how heavy the pack is, but I've done plenty of hikes that long up mountains with a hiking pack, and I'm not exactly in top physical condition. But then again, I'm not a woman.

If she were on a real battle field, male lives would be lost as they prevented her from being captured and raped.
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Лучше поздно, чем никогда

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I can't wait for the inevitable feminization of veterans, to the tune of most of the new funds being distributed strictly to female "combat veterans" or used to fight their homelessness.
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I don't her rifle was designed to be dropped carelessly on the ground like that.

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(12-05-2015 07:41 AM)Horus Wrote:  The tragic thing is that they won't just be dying in battle. They will be mercilessly raped if captured. Don't think for an instant that the ISIS boys wouldn't sacrifice lots of fighters in order to capture a piece of American GI pussy to keep them warm at night.

Maybe that is exactly the scenario that will swing the pendulum back. I hope this never happens but imagine a few of those girls get captured and ISIS puts up daily rape videos for a little x-rated PR? I guarantee you that within three months 50% of the ladies deployed would become pregnant or find another way to be dismissed with or even without honors.

As the saying goes: Reality has a way of intruding.
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(12-15-2015 08:30 AM)blck Wrote:  [Image: b89835_5769547.jpg]

Active duty USMC Sergeant here....If I ever had my Marines pull some shit off like that, I'd give an ass chewing to the two cheesedicks carrying the packs and the two in the back.

The Marines carrying the packs aren't doing anybody a favor at all. It's a start together, finish together mentality...not individual. Also, it wouldn't be fair for the two in back, since it's essentially making them stronger by carrying those packs. It'll hurt, but they need to keep pushing. Not be fucking coddled!

That being said, those two in packs need an ass chewing too. It looks like from this picture, they're not even trying to stay with the pack. It even looks like they're having a goddamn conversation with each other! They need to be UP in the FRONT with their damn ILBE packs on, so that they can set the pace.

They'd probably think I'm an asshole...but shit, the Marine Corps is paying me to be an asshole LOL.

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And to think in ancient times we had the women as one of our most prized possessions in war time. One way to ensure your blood line and success as a tribe/clan/nation was the amount of women you could impregnate and breed a new generation of warriors.

Plundering women was a valid tactic.
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(12-05-2015 07:41 AM)Horus Wrote:  
(12-05-2015 07:05 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Great job feminists. You wanted to do everything men get to do, now you get to die along side them in war.

The tragic thing is that they won't just be dying in battle. They will be mercilessly raped if captured. Don't think for an instant that the ISIS boys wouldn't sacrifice lots of fighters in order to capture a piece of American GI pussy to keep them warm at night.

And even more tragically, this probably won't even sway the leftists, whose understanding of women's ability on the battlefield is mostly informed by watching by Xena the Warrior Princess and Tombraider, when it inevitably happens.

Yes please, send the volunteer 69th pink regiment in as the first boots on the ground in Syria.

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(12-17-2015 11:00 AM)Scorpi0n Wrote:  They'd probably think I'm an asshole...but shit, the Marine Corps is paying me to be an asshole LOL.

First post by the way! Semper Fi!

Semper Fidelis! What they refer to as being an 'asshole' used to be called 'being a man'. I teach martial arts to a few guys in my spare time and it's incredible how soft most young men have become. They get roughed up a little or incur a few bruises and they're almost guaranteed to not return. Nothing reveals the true character of a man than hardship, diversity, or pain. I'm sure you know better than any of us...

Anyway, welcome to the forum.
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(12-17-2015 11:00 AM)Scorpi0n Wrote:  First post by the way!

Uh, oh!

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Let's see women being drafted and how well that goes.
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Marine Corps boot camp, job titles to be gender neutral by April via Marine Corps Time, Jan 6, 2016

Quote:The Marine Corps has been ordered to come up with a plan to make its enlisted entry-level training coed, and to make its job titles more gender-neutral following the recent move to open all military combat roles to women.

In a Jan. 1 memo to Marine Commandant Gen. Robert Neller, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus requested a "detailed plan" on how the service will fully integrate its boot camp and Officer Candidate School. The plan is due Jan. 15 and will be implemented by April 1, the memo states.

And of course no liberal plan would be complete if it didn't include changing the way we're allowed to speak.

Quote:"As we achieve full integration of the force ... this is an opportunity to update the position titles and descriptions themselves to demonstrate through this language that women are included in these MOSs," Mabus wrote. "Please review the position titles throughout the Marine Corps and ensure that they are gender-integrated as well, removing 'man' from the titles and provide a report to me as soon as is practicable and no later than April 1, 2016."

Infantryperson not Infantryman right?

Quote:A Navy official said that the service received a similar memo pertaining to its MOS titles and descriptions. Mabus doesn't intend to require iconic titles like "infantryman," "rifleman" or "midshipman" to be changed, however, according to the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

"The idea is not to go in there and change the name when 'man' is incorporated as part of the term," the official said. "... But when the word 'man' appears as a separate word ... they want that name to be changed."

Examples of some of those titles in the Marine Corps include reconnaissance man, fire support man and field artillery sensor support man. In those cases, the official said it's possible the "man" could just be dropped from the names.

Oh well, that's completely different. Update your Newspeak people:

- Infantryman: Double-Plus Good
- Reconnaissance Man: Misogyny! Double-Plus Ungood

And about the barracks..are they gonna be co-ed too?

Quote:"The barracks in San Diego are H-shaped, for example, so you can see everything that's going on. If women are living in them, do you black out the windows or make an entire building that's theirs? Do you do a floor for men and a floor for women?"
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I don't like this news any more than you guys do, for more than one reason. Letting women into the military is more or less a confirmation that a big religion war is going to happen, or is considered inevitable.

If you're a jihadist and you're killed by a woman, that's a one-way ticket straight to hell. This probably factored into their decision a lot more than bullshit feminist screeds on "combat readiness".
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The whole West is going to get 'raped' if WW3 starts without us learning this lesson first from ISIS. Fuck, they might even be doing us a favour by giving the West the reality check it needs. Then let the men fight Russia and China when it really matters.

Maybe ask ISIS if they'd like to "rape the West". They will say "yes" of course. Then drop Lindy West into Syria in combat fatigues...I'd love to see the look on their faces. "No thanks, we'll stick to goats".
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http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=85595

SSGNs are Trident submarines converted to Tomahawk guided cruise missile systems used for danger close air support and lead combat bombardment (replacing the old Battleships since they can launch submerged and have much longer range - see janes Fighting Ships for details). SSBNs are Trident Ballistic Nuclear Boomers... SSNs are Nuclear Fast attacks that have a smaller contingent of weapons, torpedoes, anti ship missiles and also Tomahawks.

The typical mission of a Trident Nuclear Submarine originates in Kings Bay Georgia or Bremerton Washington or Fast Attacks home ported in Groton CT, Norfolk VA or San Diego CA transit to the Indian Ocean for Persian Gulf operations and replenish food supplies (fruits and fresh/frozen veggies, meats and canned goods and spare parts as needed at the coral island Diego Garcia, in the middle of the Indian Ocean owned and operated by the UK - some short shore leave volley ball, beer and shark proof pen enclosed swimming and some chilling and grilling in the Sun for 2 or 3 days and then a couple months on station providing cruise missile launch support to ground units and subsurface support to surface task forces. This is a 7/24/365 operational tempo in 3 round the clock shifts often hot racking 3 men to two bunks (the larger Tridents have more berthing which can be screened off with dedicated shifts for Female then Male use of heads and showers) sleeping in three 8 hour work shifts per day typically 8 on 12 off to account for eating, sleeping, showering, studying and now with women on board BANGING!!!

The dirty little secret is that in major surface ship deployments Aircraft Carriers and Resupply ships can forecast with near certainty that a number of the young lady sailors who depart for a long deployment will become pregnant during that deployment and now the Mothers and Kids are the responsibility of the DoD and US Navy - federal family medical leave act applies in most cases... you can't just strip a newborn from their mother and send the mommie bangler back to sea... females know this and take a mommie pass when ever they get bored or realize that they are on Military Deployment and not a Carnival Party cruise.

Of course the Military Brass try to forbid sexual relations "fraternization" between female and male crew-mates but being by and large the most intelligent and competent men in the US Navy just to get on subs - not a small proportion are natural alphas that women can not keep their hands off of ... I used to bring girl friends on board in port for dinner when there was a skeleton crew on board and throw a discreet quickie into them in various quiet locations on the boat before sending them home.

This will not be any different at sea on long deployments - unless they staff and send "female" post op trannie "women" or females with mandatory long term upper arm implants birth control or hard core Butch lezzies - I predict 25% to 50% of female crew members come back from long deployments pregnant by their own lizard brain's inability to keep their paws and pussies off of their target mega alphas they go to sea with and have a captive breeding audience with. Most military women are not 7, 8, 9 or 10's but 6's and below and many of the males are pure alphas and the best DNA semen sources these females could ever hope to hook up with. Many of the males will easily be white knighted into marriage.

Irony is this will have a severe negative impact on long term retention as the men's shore based wives do not want their senior male husbands cooped up at sea with young fertile though often fooglie females for 10 to 14 month deployments.

I also see a lot of work for the JAGs having to prosecute the ladies determined to win pussy poker by selling it like hair cuts on the side - at a "C" note plus per bang and the typical fooglie female on long term deployment comes home with ten to twenty grand in spending cash... and when the implant birth control wears off after a few months - and they are knocked up - who ever is the DNA Daddy match to the offspring wins the Dopey Dumb DNA daddy lottery and 22 years child support payments... Talk about force readiness chaos... the SJW Marxist Military Feminist pro LGBTQ lean in circles will of course blame all of this chaos as Alpha rape - the men being Alpha the females were biologically forced to mount them often and frequently on such long extended deployments and thus were subject to genetically motivated self initiated rape (otherwise know as consensual sex).

Can't imagine how many more things can go wrong - the chaos this will cause to force readiness and retention will make ISIS, Iranian, Chinese and Russian commanders smile with glee.

Naturally this modern Sheryl Sandberg Lean-in Circles trained male officer disagrees and poo poos the long term negative aspects of cooping up males and females for 12 month plus deployments inside Nuclear Sewer pipes at sea... go figure its the new obamanation military:

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/confess...1715113243

Notice how all of these executive DoD mandates are being enforced while Obama only has a year to go to destroy the Nation and long term Military readiness.
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