Post: #1

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/politics/f...index.html

Quote:Two former detainees at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba were arrested by Belgian police in a counterterrorism operation targeting a recruiting network for al Qaeda in Syria.

They were arrested Wednesday night along with three others as they were about to break into a house to raise funds in the town of Hoboken, near Antwerp, a senior Belgian counterterrorism official told CNN.

"We have dismantled a serious recruiting network for Syria," the official told CNN.

One of the former Guantanamo Bay detainees was Moussa Zemmouri, 37, a Moroccan national born in Antwerp, Belgian federal prosecutors announced Friday. The other was an Algerian identified as Soufiane A., who prosecutors believe spent time in Syria.

Both have been charged with participating in the activities of a terrorist group and all five have been charged with attempted armed robbery.

Zemmouri was released from Guantanamo in 2005 and authored a book "Innocent at Guantanamo" after returning to Belgium. His case was featured prominently by the UK Muslim prisoner advocacy group CAGE, which has long maintained that he has no links to terrorism.

Moussa Zemmouri's book "Innocent at Quantanamo," the Dutch vesion.
According to a 2003 detainee assessment file posted by the WikiLeaks website, Zemmouri was transferred to U.S. custody after he was detained by Pakistani police when fleeing Afghanistan after the beginning of the U.S. bombing campaign in autumn 2001.

The document alleged he had trained in the al Qaeda-sponsored Derunta training camp in Khost, Afghanistan. It said "sensitive reporting also indicates that detainee is a high-ranking member of the Theological Commission of the Moroccan Islamic Fighting Group (MIFG)."

According to the Belgian official, Zemmouri was put under observation after his return to Belgium. Belgian security services suspect he provided theological encouragement to several former members of the al Qaeda affiliated MIFG who left to fight jihad in Syria after they completed prison sentences in Belgian jails.

The official said there was no indication the group was plotting an attack in Belgium.

Efforts to immediately reach an attorney for Zemmouri were unsuccessful.

Belgian officials know of the identity of more than 300 extremists who have traveled from Belgium to join jihadi groups in Syria.

Post: #2

In his mind I am sure he is innocent, that he is simply doing Allahs' will by being Mohammeds advocate.

I for one do not drink the 'Islam is a religion of piece' koolaid.

History paints another story.

1,2,3 come in (name has been omitted as an anti fatwa measure)

Post: #3

If current trends hold, he will be painted as an innocent victim of religious intolerance even though he basically wrote the book on recruiting for ISIS.

Post: #4

No surprise here....many of those released from jail or prison return to the same "crime" / activities they did before. The whole gitmo fiasco is a mess. Firstly, it is Cuban land and should be given back. Second, the media got too involved and the U.S. Govt bowed to the liberal media. Now, releasing these guys look what mess and mischief they are causing......

Post: #5

It is possible that these guys got indoctrinated to fundamentalist Islam whilst in Guantanamo Bay.

Post: #6

(07-26-2015 02:36 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  It is possible that these guys got indoctrinated to fundamentalist Islam whilst in Guantanamo Bay.

I'm not saying this is what happened, but nothing would make them hate the west more than being imprisoned and tortured by the US, with no other country lifting a finger to stop it.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #7

Compared to what their own countries would do to them and other third world shit holes I am pretty sure the experience in Gitmo was like a holiday in comparison.

Post: #8

And Obama is finally, after 7 years, working to fulfill his campaign promise to shut Gitmo down....

Of course shutting it down is a political issue. Releasing guys that should be shot is not.


I'm not sure if Carter or Obama is the worst in recent history.

Post: #9

I doubt it bro, the narrative that these terrorists have a 'radical interpretation' of the Quoran, it's a load of crock. They have a literal interepretation, so if we use the criteria of how closely they follow their book, they are model muslims.

You'll hear all sorts of reasons behind radicalization from poverty and at the moment in the UK 'integration issues'. It's all bollocks, these guys are cut from the same cloth as the original followers of Mohammed. Their hearts are full of missionary zeal and they will convert, destroy and attempt to propagate the sharia and establish a 'darul islam' caliphate.

(07-26-2015 02:36 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  It is possible that these guys got indoctrinated to fundamentalist Islam whilst in Guantanamo Bay.

Post: #10

(07-26-2015 03:47 PM)007 Wrote:  You'll hear all sorts of reasons behind radicalization from poverty and at the moment in the UK 'integration issues'. It's all bollocks, these guys are cut from the same cloth as the original followers of Mohammed. Their hearts are full of missionary zeal and they will convert, destroy and attempt to propagate the sharia and establish a 'darul islam' caliphate.

Those are the symptoms of the disease, but the causes are different ones and can be summarized as the 3P:

Lack of pussy, perspective and purpose.