Post: #1

I've been watching a few interviews with Kobe Bryant and just amazed
at how much athleticism he brings to the game and how he sees adversity
as a challenge and an opportunity.

It really got me thinking about Game in terms of rising to the challenge and
getting to the point where you are unstoppable and can succeed with
women regardless of the circumstances.

Competition, bad attitudes, poor access to quality women...these are the
challenges that we all face and develop a certain athleticism
to deal with the adversity.

So despite challenges, we can still win championships.

So athleticism for me would mean being able to quickly move from set to set
and get in front of quality girls consistently with 5-7 new conversations every week.

Otherwise you won't have the momentum needed to get consistent results
and deal with the inevitable flakiness, bad attitudes, timing etc that's going
to come your way.

Post: #2

(07-21-2015 04:57 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  poor access to quality women...

What would you do to solve this: ''poor access to quality women..''?

What would the game athletics do?

Post: #3

You need Balkan power.

Post: #4

(07-21-2015 05:35 PM)mastauser Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 04:57 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  poor access to quality women...

What would you do to solve this: ''poor access to quality women..''?

What would the game athletics do?

Probably the biggest problem of them all.

The answer is simple but not always easy.

Lots of guys look for shortcuts like clubs and bars
however you've got to look for a platform where your skills
are on display.

Look for mainstream activities that involve lots of beautiful women.
Hosting parties, teaching classes, promoting events, writing a book,
joining a band, becoming a tour guide, creating a youtube channel,
speaking at events...you really need an audience rather than going
after girls one at a time.

Most guys though will just do what's easy instead of looking for those
opportunities where you can reach more women in the same amount of time.

Game athleticism then means being able to talk to women while simultaneously
talking to more of the right women in the same amount of time.

So instead of talking to one 8 a week, you're consistently talking to 5 8's
per week.

It's pretty easy to master the first skill, that just takes practice. The
real challenge is creating situations where you can consistently talk
to new women who are genuine quality on a weekly/monthly basis.

Post: #5

I thought this thread was going to be about having enough stamina to go to pound town for 3 hours...

(07-21-2015 07:22 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 05:35 PM)mastauser Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 04:57 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  poor access to quality women...

So basically the age old fame game?
What would you do to solve this: ''poor access to quality women..''?

What would the game athletics do?

Probably the biggest problem of them all.

The answer is simple but not always easy.

Lots of guys look for shortcuts like clubs and bars
however you've got to look for a platform where your skills
are on display.

Look for mainstream activities that involve lots of beautiful women.
Hosting parties, teaching classes, promoting events, writing a book,
joining a band, becoming a tour guide, creating a youtube channel,
speaking at events...you really need an audience rather than going
after girls one at a time.

Most guys though will just do what's easy instead of looking for those
opportunities where you can reach more women in the same amount of time.

Game athleticism then means being able to talk to women while simultaneously
talking to more of the right women in the same amount of time.

It's pretty easy to master the first skill, that just takes practice. The
real challenge is creating those situations where you talk to more
of the right women in the same period of time.(i.e week or month)

So basically play the fame game.

A lot of those activities you mentioned require stepping up to a leadership position in one form or another, a well-known attractive quality in men. Once you have men following you, the women will trail right behind.

Post: #6

I see it more as being able to make well coordinated moves that position you to
actively engage with more beautiful women daily. Fame game would then be one way
of doing this.

You're right though, to have game athleticism requires some kind of
leadership position or access along with polished game skills.

Post: #7

What's the game equivalent of popping your Achilles tending and being an inefficient bum after? Marriage?

(I'm a lakers fan and married)

Post: #8

You got multiple things going on in your idea.

1) positive mental attitude
2) creating a social funnel, where you interact with beautiful women via social position in a structured environment or like said above, fame.

Some examples
- Going to university

- Going to a different location, city or country where you can develop some notoriety for being/looking different

- changing your personal style to either peacock or fit into an archetype

- joining formal and informal groups to interact with women on a more familiar basis. church, classes, charity, volunteering, hobbies that involve groups

- starting said groups, like a meet up group or teach a class

- businesses that attract beautiful women - bars/clubs, specific retail - either working at or starting

- beautiful women businesses - model agencies, pageants, porn company, cam studio

These are all things with multiple threads. It's seen as a game hack, but it's actually quite conventional and was more acceptable in western society prior to the atomization that it has experienced since mass entertainment was available privately.

Different levels of real investment are required, and there's no guarantee.

It would make a great case study for a player to show how he went from zero to hero.

The one that in thinking of was in a mainstream business or news magazine. A burned out wall street trader moved to south America, started a print magazine that featured some of Argentina's most beautiful women and leveraged that into a beachhead into upper echelon society of Buenos Aires.

The article did not go into whether he was fucking chicks left and right, so I had to use my mind for game to see the possibility


WIA

Post: #9

i beleive the info is good.

but i think you're just overthinking it.

Post: #10

(07-22-2015 05:38 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You got multiple things going on in your idea.

1) positive mental attitude
2) creating a social funnel, where you interact with beautiful women via social position in a structured environment or like said above, fame.

Some examples
- Going to university

- Going to a different location, city or country where you can develop some notoriety for being/looking different

- changing your personal style to either peacock or fit into an archetype

- joining formal and informal groups to interact with women on a more familiar basis. church, classes, charity, volunteering, hobbies that involve groups

- starting said groups, like a meet up group or teach a class

- businesses that attract beautiful women - bars/clubs, specific retail - either working at or starting

- beautiful women businesses - model agencies, pageants, porn company, cam studio

These are all things with multiple threads. It's seen as a game hack, but it's actually quite conventional and was more acceptable in western society prior to the atomization that it has experienced since mass entertainment was available privately.

Different levels of real investment are required, and there's no guarantee.

It would make a great case study for a player to show how he went from zero to hero.

The one that in thinking of was in a mainstream business or news magazine. A burned out wall street trader moved to south America, started a print magazine that featured some of Argentina's most beautiful women and leveraged that into a beachhead into upper echelon society of Buenos Aires.

The article did not go into whether he was fucking chicks left and right, so I had to use my mind for game to see the possibility


WIA

Those are some great ideas. Especially creating a social funnel where
women naturally come to you because of a skill you possess or a position
that you have.

I've realized recently that just getting to the basket is just as or even more
important as being able to shoot the ball.

For average girls, this might be overkill. However for stunning women
you really need an advantage. One that provides access to social situations
where conversation is natural and you already have built in social proof.

As for Argentina, I like that idea...you could do that pretty easily
with a facebook page and a website...in Spanish of course...and then
hire a few photographers to take photos at events...

I need to ramp up my marketing for fitness models project...

Post: #11

(07-22-2015 02:00 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  I've realized recently that just getting to the basket is just as or even more
important as being able to shoot the ball.
As for Argentina, I like that idea...you could do that pretty easily
with a facebook page and a website...in Spanish of course...and then
hire a few photographers to take photos at events...

I need to ramp up my marketing for fitness models project...

No, I believe he had a print magazine. Thus whoever he captured was all over the country. That's entirely different than some photos on a website. Chicks were seeing themselves at the newsstand.

He was star-making. I think cats trying these external techniques out don't really think big or deep enough about what it is they're doing.

But this is more troubling to me, though I suspect many agree with your without thinking about what they're agreeing with.

(07-22-2015 02:00 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  For average girls, this might be overkill. However for stunning women
you really need an advantage. One that provides access to social situations
where conversation is natural and you already have built in social proof.

That's just the wrong way to think about stunners imo.

The problem is one of numbers, not one of game.

Even a veteran player doesn't pull every chick he spits game at.

He might run through 5 sets before he finds one where it's all good. So if he's missing gears with a 6, two 8's, and a 7, and ends up clicking with the 7.5 at the end of the night - he doesn't dwell on the 4 missed opportunities.

He doesn't try to square the fact that the 6 with the big tits that rejected his offer and the tall 8 was happy to join him for a night cap.

Dudes try to make sense of this shit, because they have a narrative fallacy. When in reality, it's chance.

The 6 might feel that she's a 10,
the 8 might feel she's a 10 and HE'S A 10.

A veteran player doesn't go down that rabbit hole trying to make the #'s line up. Gurus that preach that shit, just haven't fucked enough pretty girls or really looked at the world honestly.

How pretty she is doesn't determine how much she likes him. Her attractiveness has no bearing on anything. Beauty tells a player very little about the girl. Everytime he assume ssome shit, it ends up being wrong.

And if he thinks about "competition" when he thinks about 10's, she's been talked to by thousands of guys before she talks to any given player. Guys taller, richer, stronger, and better looking than him.

But she chooses to go with the player that night. He's the prize. She has more than enough options, but he's the one that catches her fancy.


Back to the program.



Very few of us have ever been in a position where we run into 5 stunners in one night.

So long story short, you don't need Jedi Mind Tricks game to bag a stunner.

What you need is #'s.

And that's what creating something external to your rap does. It brings in more #'s.

So whatever device a player uses needs to attract "regular" hotties.

It's not overkill. It's making a killing.

You got all these good looking women interacting with you - chances get better than a stunner will be among them. Not because they're attracted to crowds of beautiful women, but whatever you're using to attract women - will attract a stunner - because a stunner is a woman.

Mentally and behavior wise - these stunners aren't any smarter or more socially savvy as a general rule. You will find some, but you'll find a lot of sharp 6's too. Like I said above, you can't predict shit based on how she looks.

If anything, a really hot bitch is into some lame shit.

You're more likely to find a super hottie @ a Taylor Swift concert than you will at something legitimately good. It's because Taylor attracts ALL.

I'd put up a Kings of Leon crowd against an Interpol crowd any day of the week. There are just going to be more people, thus more girls, thus more hot ones.

Build it and they will come.
Come one, come all.

WIA

Post: #12

I think we both agree on fundamentally the same things:

1. You do need a certain number of conversations before you find
a mutual match. Not every girl is going to be interested or interesting.

2. If a girl doesn't work out and you've been doing this for a while
there's no need to over analyze what went wrong.

3. Attractive girls should receive no special treatment. In truth,
they should be challenged to show real depth and personality.

However what I'm talking about when it comes to athleticism
has nothing to do with interacting with girls. I'm talking
about being able to move within your enviroment in such a way
that you have access to more stunning women.

Take a pageant like Miss World...every contestant is beautiful
because of the entire selection and recruiting process.

There's a lot of natural barriers you have to deal with
when it comes to finding large numbers of beautiful girls.
They're not always at the clubs or walking down the street.

In fact, without a powerful "engine" to meet more women, you'll
waste a lot of time...even if you have top skills.

Also, just because you have large numbers of women doesn't
always mean you have high quality. You still have to target
the demographic.

Stunning women do share certain activities, likes and interests
that make them easier to find. (girls who like fitness vs girls who like Dunkin Donuts)

Game athleticism is all about understanding your enviroment
and then moving in order to get into a better position
to meet more of these women on a consistent basis.

Post: #13

"Stunning women do share certain activities, likes and interests
that make them easier to find. "

Like what exactly?

WIA

Post: #14

The easiest way is to target by activity.

Stunning women have to maintain their figure
and look good so fitness training is a big passion
as well as healthy living.

Fitness modelling is a good example.

They also want to look as "pretty" as possible
so popular beauty and fashion brands actually target
these type of women with their products.

It's like how BMW and Jaguar target more affluent customers
who have money to spend on more expensive cars.

Essentially what we're talking about is a marketing
campaign designed to target very attractive women
by their activities and desires and use that to create
opportunities to meet more stunning women.