Post: #76

Disgusting. From protest today in NYC.

Post: #77

I don't know what it is, but it has to go back.

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Post: #79

Ramz chimes in:

Post: #80

What does he mean with "Iran took my arm"?

Post: #81

I haven't looked into things that closely because I don't really care, but there were loads of foreign fighters acting as insurgents/advisors in Iraq. And Iran was supplying the insurgents with training, helping them deploy sophisticated "IEDs" using things like explosively formed penetrators.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/penta...ghanistan/

Knew a guy who almost got his jaw blown off by an EFP. It punched right through the armor on his humvee. His face was a normal shape more or less and he wasn't missing any bits, but you could tell the surgeons had pieced it back together from chowder. Huge shiny scars from burns and obvious nerve damage to parts of the right side of his face. And he deployed at least once after recovering from that. Badass.

Since this is a tranny thread, on the suicide issue: it was always annoying as fuck when a soldier killed himself (or herself, there were a couple chicks who offed themselves IIRC). They would put the FOB on comms blackout until they could officially notify the family of the deceased. Just imagine if we'd had a pack of trannies around. It would've been a permanent comms blackout from all the suicides, I bet. Very inconsiderate. Plus guess who gets to clean up the mess? It'd be bad for morale all around.

Post: #82

(07-27-2017 03:16 PM)churros Wrote:  

Disgusting. From protest today in NYC.

Whatever that is, it has a gang member tattoo on its cheek, 26 as in twice MS13... unless it is a South African gang of money grabbers, the 26s.



Gang of (State) money grabbers: isn't it the best definition of welfare Liberal folks ever?

Post: #83

I propose a simple test.

Tell the trannies to form a militia. Any member that successfully turns up to all 52 weekly sessions without subverting the chain of command even once gets into the army, no questions asked.

Simple. Easy. And not a single one would pass.

Post: #84

(07-31-2017 01:10 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  What does he mean with "Iran took my arm"?

Iran’s Involvement in Iraq

Post: #85

(07-31-2017 09:15 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 01:10 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  What does he mean with "Iran took my arm"?

Iran’s Involvement in Iraq

Council on Foreign Relations? Really?

Post: #86

(07-31-2017 10:11 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 09:15 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 01:10 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  What does he mean with "Iran took my arm"?

Iran’s Involvement in Iraq

Council on Foreign Relations? Really?

The article is consistent with my experiences in Iraq.
What's wrong with the Council on Foreign Relations?

Post: #87

They're neocons and a pro-Jew interests front group - of course they're gonna have an axe to grind with Iran.

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Good to know. Still, that alone doesn't mean it didn't happen.
As a soldier I had an axe to grind with Iran. Many other groups have an axe to grind with Iran.

Post: #89

These things need a kick in the nuts, if they have them that is.

Post: #90

I've talked about this before.

Where were these people and protestors when Obama did nothing about the ban until the near end of his 2nd term when trans people started to become noticed? It wasn't until Bruce became Caitlyn then he decided to say "I like you and want to vote for my party".

If the Democrats wrote honest slogans, this is what they would really say on Equality: We support equality only when it's popular. It's no big deal if we do anything to harm you because you'll never look at the other options. When equality is not the cool thing, we'll just cower in a corner.

The Democrats are not saints on LGBT equality at all. Remember, Bill Clinton put in Don't Ask Don't Tell and signed the Defense of Marriage Act 20 years ago. The Democrats couldn't get the Employement Non-Discrimination Act passed even with majorities in Congress and the Senate. Don't Ask Don't Tell wasn't even taken care of until they were about to lose their power in Congress.

I'll call it, Trump will cuck out and have a "change of heart moment". He'll make the Democrats campaign on it and if they lose in 2018, he'll say "lo, jk" and undo it after getting pressured.

Post: #91

Surprised this was not brought up yet....

Coast Guard is not hollistically under the DOD, but this is a very troubling development. I have yet to see any decent argument, objectively considering the practical realities of transsexualism that doesn't show a great disruption to unit readiness and cohesion. The amount of hormonal, surgical, and psychiatric treatments they must receive alone should give anyone pause.

I'm fact, I can think if several current military service disqualifying medical/psychological conditions that are less disruptive that transsexualism. Why are they not allowed now?


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/...dsmen.html

"Commandant: 'I Will Not Break Faith' With Transgender Coast Guardsmen

As military services await guidance following President Donald Trump's announcement last week via Twitter of a ban on transgender service members, the commandant of the Coast Guard is speaking out, saying he has no intention of leaving transgender Coast Guardsmen out in the cold.

Speaking on the topic for the first time at the Center for Strategic and International Studies on Tuesday morning, Adm. Paul Zukunft said his first action upon becoming aware of Trump's tweets was to have his office reach out to all 13 members of the Coast Guard who have self-identified as transgender.

"I reached out personally to Lt. Taylor Miller, who was featured on the cover of The Washington Post last week," Zukunft said. "If you read that story, Taylor's family has disowned her. Her family is the United States Coast Guard. And I told Taylor, 'I will not turn my back. We have made an investment in you, and you have made an investment in the Coast Guard, and I will not break faith.' "

Miller, 27, is reportedly the first openly transitioning member of the Coast Guard, a process she began in 2016 after the Pentagon removed its standing ban on openly transgender service members and then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter ordered all services to draft policies to allow for transgender recruits and transgender medical care within the military.

The Coast Guard is the only military service to fall under the Department of Homeland Security, rather than the Department of Defense. But how Trump's tweeted ban will affect the service is just as unclear as with any of the others.

In a series of three tweets July 26, Trump said that "the United States Government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."

To date, no further guidance has been provided.

The Palm Center, a San Francisco-based nonprofit that promotes the study of gay and transgender people in the armed forces, on Tuesday released a letter signed by 56 retired generals and admirals who oppose Trump's transgender ban.

The document also notes that two other four-stars and former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- retired Army Gen. Martin Dempsey and retired Navy Adm. Mike Mullen -- have publicly supported transgender service members.

"Transgender troops have been serving honorably and openly for the past year, and have been widely praised by commanders," the letter states. "Eighteen foreign nations, including the UK and Israel, allow transgender troops to serve, and none has reported any detriment to readiness."

The Family Research Council, a Christian public policy ministry in Washington D.C., has praised Trump's decision to rescind the Obama-era policy.

"As our nation faces serious national security threats, our troops shouldn’t be forced to endure hours of transgender 'sensitivity' classes and politically-correct distractions like this one," the group's president, Tony Perkins, a Marine veteran, said in a statement last week after the president's announcement.

After contacting his transgender troops, Zukunft said he reached out to then-DHS Secretary John Kelly, who was sworn in as White House Chief of Staff on Monday as part of a series of administration shake-ups. Kelly reached out to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Zukunft said.

"We stood up a tiger team of our JAG officers," Zukunft said.

The next steps remain to be seen, as does how Coast Guard leadership plans to shield its troops in the face of an administration mandate.

Neither Kelly nor Mattis have publicly offered insights into how Trump's tweets will apply to the military. But Zukunft's remarks send a clear message to transgender Coast Guardsmen in uniform, whether or not they are serving openly.

"That is the commitment to our people right now," Zukunft said. "Very small numbers, but all of them are doing meaningful Coast Guard work today."

EDIT: "Zukunft" means "future" in German, which in the context of this story is somewhat amusing.

Post: #92

The Coast Guard headquarters are in DC, their main training centers are in places like Petaluma, CA and Cape May, NJ, which are flaming blue. Back in the days of don't ask don't tell and even before that, they had some guys who looked to me like they were a lot more comfortable cruising The Castro than the high seas.

Post: #93

(07-31-2017 01:10 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  What does he mean with "Iran took my arm"?

He was probably fighting in Iran and lost his arm after it got injured?