Post: #26

I think the guy sent the note as a passive aggressive message that she should put more work into her body, or at the very least be less covert about her body if she wants to be viable in the dating market. Regardless of her statements (pay attention to what women do not what they say) I am certain she used SIF angles. Even in the handful of attention whoring body-acceptance #EveryBody'sReady pictures, every angle and pose is setup in a way you can't actually tell what her body shape is like. A simple straight on picture wearing something form fitting is all you need to be congruent. If you don't like how that picture of yourself turns out, then do something about your body.

I say there is nothing wrong with being happy with your body if you're corpulent, as long as you are realistic and understand that will close certain doos for you and make things more difficult for you medically and socially. If you're a woman and you're overweight, then you can't expect or feel entitled to the most desirable men - you will be relegated to the market of men who are OK with dating out-of-shape women. That market is generally men who are more desperate and/or not as attractive physically/socially/financially.

Maybe women generally don't understand the concept of self-improvement. This could be due to them not thinking about things in the long-term perhaps. I'm not sure but their has to be a reason why women tend to not internalize their issues as much as men or work towards a solution that involves changing themselves instead of trying to force everyone else around them to change instead.

Post: #27

(07-07-2015 09:09 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Maybe women generally don't understand the concept of self-improvement.

I don't think women understand the concept of self awareness and introspection. Well and deep unbiased thinking. Usually it comes from a place of victim hood. Rather then getting thicker skin as society progresses it keeps getting thinner and thinner. Not the bodies of course.

Post: #28

(07-07-2015 09:43 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(07-07-2015 09:09 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Maybe women generally don't understand the concept of self-improvement.

I don't think women understand the concept of self awareness and introspection. Well and deep unbiased thinking. Usually it comes from a place of victim hood. Rather then getting thicker skin as society progresses it keeps getting thinner and thinner. Not the bodies of course.

Women also don't have any external motivation for introspection or self-improvement. Whatever fat ass pic they post on FB will get liked by a 100 betas regardless. Women can treat betas like shit and the betas lap it up and ask for more. Women's media is constantly making excuses for women and telling they are beautiful, wonderful and perfect no matter how fat, ugly and obnoxious they are.

In fact, in a lot of ways, there are external forces pushing women to be worse, not better. Fat is beautiful. Victimhood is profitable. Slutty is normal. Bitchy is empowerment.

When every mirror is telling you that you are the fairest in the land, these chicks have no reason to actually become better people.

Post: #29

As a general rule I never tell women exactly what I think. That sort of communication is for men, who can take a little blow to the ego and not collapse. If not attracted (for whatever reason), best course of action is usually silence or ramp down of communication (ghosting).

The other thing is, which you really understand once you travel, is that Anglo women generally just don't care about being beautiful. I mean it's just not a priority for them. They don't care about their bodies and they don't care about wearing nice clothes and looking good. They have no goals, they live empty lives, and they fill the void with food. If they were men, they'd be called losers. Most girls are actually losers. They have nothing. We should shun them.

Post: #30

That's the thing right? They need external motivation. A lot of guys I know and most of the guys here are internally motivated. They just want to be better than the day before. Or at least try.

My avatar is that mirror.

Post: #31

WNB and the guy is a fucking pussy.

I honestly don't know why he rationalize his explanation to her.

I would've just nexted her and faded on her. I just did this with a semi SIF last week, cute face, but bigass thunder thighs. Spent 2 hours, bounced, she texted me saying she had fun, I never responded. Didn't give her some lame ass excuse.

Post: #32

@ doubles down.

Post: #33

I was thinking about this issue just now.

The woman said that she wasn't interested in the guy. And yet, I wondered why this guy wrote such a long and carefully contrived explanation about why he didn't want to date her if she wasn't attracted to him.

Two plausible explanations:

1) She's not interested and he's contriving her interest in his head. Possible. But if there's one thing that Anglosphere women are good at doing, it's communicating to you that NO THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.

2) She was actually more interested than she let on and she's lying about her disinterest in the guy to save face since she got rejected for being fat.

Of the two, I'm going with #2.

Post: #34

He turned on her attraction circuit by saying "it ain't gonna happen". That's how women work. But at the same time he insulted her by calling her fat. Her mad cow disease kicked in and she felt the need for retribution. If he soft nexted her she would have been begging to slob on his knob. You gotta leave them wondering "why".

Post: #35

(07-07-2015 01:58 PM)aphelion Wrote:  I was thinking about this issue just now.

The woman said that she wasn't interested in the guy. And yet, I wondered why this guy wrote such a long and carefully contrived explanation about why he didn't want to date her if she wasn't attracted to him.

Two plausible explanations:

1) She's not interested and he's contriving her interest in his head. Possible. But if there's one thing that Anglosphere women are good at doing, it's communicating to you that NO THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED.

2) She was actually more interested than she let on and she's lying about her disinterest in the guy to save face since she got rejected for being fat.

Of the two, I'm going with #2.

You are right the answer is definetly #2. I have had women flake on me after a "good" first date, no message, no text, no phone call- radio fucking silence and I took the hint and replied in kind with no further contact(dignity is important). However I have also met a girl for a first date and she was not as cute as I remembered her when I got her number drunk at 4 am and the shoe was on the other foot.

She probably either liked this guy a lot, perhaps gave him a first date blowjob, and he never called her again. She texted him over and over until he got frustrated and sent her the "you are fat" message. She invented the "date" she was on when it happened, and attention whoring was officially afoot.

Post: #36

I'm shocked not one of us has mentioned the fact that she pulled out her phone while on a date. We've talked about the implications of the text, but not the actual act of pulling out the phone in the first place. We should all be ashamed of ourselves

Post: #37

First of all, trying to logically what went on in this chick's hair-dyed, SIF hamster brain is totally pointless, because she is clearly a loon.

But since we are circle jerking, I think y'all have it backwards. She may have liked this guy at first cause he showed some interest, but the second he went into how much he loved her mind and how awesome she was, the ham sammich between her legs started drying up. She was well on the way to putting him in her beta orbit. She's not pissed cause she got dumped by an alpha, she's crying cause her beta told her she was a fatty.

Don't listen to her words, look at her actions. She is acting betrayed, not hurt. She is acting the same way she would act if it had been one of her female friends who had said I love you, girlfriend, but you're a porker.

Post: #38

Another thing:

If this guy had such nice and memorable things to say about her personality, she was obviously enthusiastic about the date one way or another. No chilly disinterested chick is going to get such effusive praise from one of her also-rans.

Post: #39

I've been discussing this with Bojangles, and we think there's high probability that the guy doesn't even exist. The writing styles of both the fatty and 'him' are very similar, and as we know, men don't write in that essay-style way, ever. Just really think about that long diatribe and tell me it isn't blatantly obvious it's written by a woman.



It's most likely nothing more than an attention whoring fairytale.
Especially when you consider she's trying to do a Sarkeesian and make a career out of victimhood and "bodyshaming" etc. In fact, when you re-read it with the instinct that it's fake, it's really bloody obvious that it is!

Martin Daubney, a colleague of Milo (and also columnist for The Telegraph) has got involved so we could see a mainstream article exposing this woman.



Some of you guys are expert sleuths, so perhaps you could do some digging! I think the U.S story mentioned was this one on XOJane. On a plus-note, whilst it's a damn shame this has also been picked up by the DM...the comments are all in agreement with what you guys are saying. I find it utterly astonishing at how often women lie these days in their attempts for attention, with no thought as to what will happen when they caught. Because, usually they get forgiven and almost believed despite people knowing it's a fabrication. Mattress girl for example. End times my friends, end times.

Update: The comments on her own blog are calling her out.

Post: #40

(07-08-2015 06:45 AM)Teedub Wrote:  I've been discussing this with Bojangles, and we think there's high probability that the guy doesn't even exist. The writing styles of both the fatty and 'him' are very similar, and as we know, men don't write in that essay-style way, ever. Just really think about that long diatribe and tell me it isn't blatantly obvious it's written by a woman

While I agree anything you read on the internet that has a potential to bolster someone should be taken with some skepticism, especially in a world where you can make a lucrative career out of simply being an attention whore or a victim, it's inaccurate to think men do not write these kinds of things. Go over to the White Knight thread and read the cringe-worthy shit that a lot of chumps out there say to women. Most men still think being 100% open, sensitive, and emotionally available to women is a way to charm them.

I easily believe a man could and would type this.

Post: #41

(07-08-2015 09:30 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 06:45 AM)Teedub Wrote:  I've been discussing this with Bojangles, and we think there's high probability that the guy doesn't even exist. The writing styles of both the fatty and 'him' are very similar, and as we know, men don't write in that essay-style way, ever. Just really think about that long diatribe and tell me it isn't blatantly obvious it's written by a woman

While I agree anything you read on the internet that has a potential to bolster someone should be taken with some skepticism, especially in a world where you can make a lucrative career out of simply being an attention whore or a victim, it's inaccurate to think men do not write these kinds of things. Go over to the White Knight thread and read the cringe-worthy shit that a lot of chumps out there say to women. Most men still think being 100% open, sensitive, and emotionally available to women is a way to charm them.

I easily believe a man could and would type this.

Yeah, but as Bojangles said in the tweet I posted...do men (even huge WK's) say that shit before they reject a woman? I'm just not buying it. Even the way she tries to sound like a guy by putting in "I fucking adore you" trying to sound macho but just coming across as how women swear, and saying "With all the red hot lusts of a man and all the failings of a man and I'm sure of my own body and its needs."...I mean, that just sounds like pure woman-speak, at least to me.

I guess I wouldn't put it past a man to write that way, but it really is a stretch.

Post: #42

Tell a man he's not tall enough and it's no big deal.

Tell a woman to lay off the burritos and its WW3