Post: #1

Only in the UK. Certain bits bolded for emphasis.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tin...irror_main

Quote:A woman was left in floods of tears after a man she met on Tinder told her she was too fat to fancy.

But instead of letting this mortifying experience destroy her self esteem, Michelle Thomas has used it to teach others about the right way to treat women.

The writer and café manager had spent the week before she met the man, who she calls Simon, chatting online.

On June 29 they met for drinks at a bar in Victoria and then dinner at a restaurant on the South Bank, in central London.

She did not find him particularly attractive and she was not too bothered about whether she saw him again.

Zoe Elliott-ShirecoreMichelle Thomas TinderShamed: Michelle Thomas was told by her date he was in love with her mind but not her body
But what he did afterwards made her sure she never wanted to see him again and left her in floods of tears while she was on a date the following night.

In a 397 word message the man, who Ms Thomas will only say is in his 40s and works in the NHS, told her he adored her but it would never work because he would not be able to get an erection with her.

He wrote: “I'm not going to bull***t you... I f***ing adore you Michelle and I think you're the prettiest looking girl I've ever met.

“But my mind gets turned on by someone slimmer.

“So whilst I am hugely turned on by your mind, your face, your personality (and God...I really, really am), I can't say the same about your figure.

“So I can sit there and flirt and have the most incredibly fun evening, but I have this awful feeling that when we got undressed my body would let me down.

“I don't want that to happen baby.

“I don't want to be lying there next to you, and you asking me why I'm not hard.

“I'm so disappointed in myself Michelle because I've genuinely not felt this way about anyone in ages, but I'm trying to be honest with you without sounding like a total k***head.

“We could be amazing friends, we could flirt and joke and adore each other and.... f*** me... I would marry you like a shot if you were a slip of a girl because what you have in that mind of yours is utterly unique, and I really really love it.”

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Zoe Elliott-ShirecoreMichelle Thomas TinderAngry: She was told by the date he was worried he would not be able to perform if he saw her naked
Ms Thomas said: "I was inconsolable when I got the message the next day.

"I was on another date when I received that message. (I got my phone out to check messages when my date was in the loo.)

"I was just shocked and burst into tears.

"My date was lovely about it and I showed him the message but being in tears isn't a great look for a first date is it?

"I think the only reason for sending the message is to hurt and to wound somebody.

"It's every woman's worst nightmare. It's this deep rooted thought that you have as a teenager and never really goes away that no matter how fun or clever you are, if you are a little bit overweight then nothing else matters to men.

"The message confirmed this dormant fear that I think woman have.

"A male friend said 'no man would say that unless to wound and to cut somebody down'."

After her upset turned to anger, Ms Thomas decided not to suffer in silence and instead posted it on her blog as an example of how not to treat women.

She says she has received a lot of positive feedback with people saying they will read it with their children as a lesson in how not to treat women.

The subject of the blog has asked her to take it down but Ms Thomas, from Crystal Palace, South East London, says it is here to stay.

She added she had been motivated to write over fears about the effect the man's attitude to women might have on his 13-year-old daughter.

Zoe Elliott-ShirecoreMIchelle Thomas TinderDefiant: Michelle has refused to be cowed by her experience
In her response to him she wrote: “You may think are all my profile pictures are "FGASs" (That's Fat Girl Angle Shots – pictures from angles that slim and flatter the girl. Because men only ever use candid, brutally-lit, unfiltered pics).

“But I think they're a fair representation.

“And I'm pretty upfront about who I am: I describe myself as a woman who loves pizza, and include links to my Instagram page, where I have the #everybodysready bikini shots I took on my 30th birthday.

“I like to think I come across as a confident, happy woman.

“But could this be the very reason you have targeted me?

“Did you see me and think ‘She has far too high an opinion of herself, she needs bringing down a peg or two?’

“I have to ask - we all know the internet is a dangerous place to be a woman with opinions (I discovered this first hand when I ventured a response to those obnoxious bloody adverts).

“What truly concerns me, the real reason I'm responding so publicly, is the fact that you have a 13 year old daughter.

“A talented illustrator, who collects Manga comics and wants to visit Japan as soon as possible.

“I want you to encourage your daughter to love, enjoy, and care for her body.

“It belongs to her and only her.

“Praise her intellect, and her creativity.

“Push her to push herself and to be fearless.

“Give her the tools to develop a bomb-proof sense of self-esteem so that if (I'll be kind. I'll say ‘if’.) the time comes that a small, unhappy man attempts to corrode it, she can respond as I do now.”


She has told him never to contact her ever again and hopes any man reading the blog will think twice about saying things like this to any woman.

The man she was out with when she received the hateful message has got back in touch with her since the blog post went up and they are texting again

It's too perfect. This writer/cafe manager(so basically, a cafe manager) aspring cat-lady got friendzoned by a 40 year old Tinder date because he found out she was a SIF after they met. Has a mental breakdown about it while on another date and laments about how all this "independent woman" horse shit she has been spoon fed couldn't protect her fragile ego when a man tells her she could stand to lose a few to make her bangable. So what doe she do? Take it as a sign to do some self improvement?

HA!

She doubles down on being a fatty and promotes others to be okay with being a fatty as well. Seems like she has all the white knights she needs on her side as well to steer her clear of cutting back on all the pizza she holds so dear and hitting a treadmill once in a while. The best part of it all?

Quote:“What truly concerns me, the real reason I'm responding so publicly, is the fact that you have a 13 year old daughter.

“A talented illustrator, who collects Manga comics and wants to visit Japan as soon as possible.

“I want you to encourage your daughter to love, enjoy, and care for her body.

“It belongs to her and only her.

“Praise her intellect, and her creativity.

“Push her to push herself and to be fearless.

“Give her the tools to develop a bomb-proof sense of self-esteem so that if (I'll be kind. I'll say ‘if’.) the time comes that a small, unhappy man attempts to corrode it, she can respond as I do now.”

This childless spinster thinks he knows more about raising this man's child than he does. Maybe then she too can be a dumpy-bodied single girl in her 30's working a dead end job.

Of course, she is ONLY attention whoring because she is concerned for rejecter's daughter's healthy upbringing.



It's another typical story we are all too familiar with. I wonder when they will learn that telling guys to be attracted to fat bodies is no going to make us be attracted to fat bodies?

EDIT: Where are my manners - WYB?

Post: #2

She looks terrible.
Does she has a moustache or it is just my mobile?

Post: #3

She has a weird, blocky figure and inexplicably no ass or tits but I can't say that she's all that fat (compared to actual fatties).

It says a lot that she can get a letter that goes pretty over the top in kissing her ass and complimenting her great personality and all that other shit but disses on how her figure does not inspire erections and it causes her to have a mental breakdown while on another date.

Post: #4

(07-06-2015 04:01 PM)Hades Wrote:  She has a weird, blocky figure and inexplicably no ass or tits but I can't say that she's all that fat (compared to actual fatties).

It says a lot that she can get a letter that goes pretty over the top in kissing her ass and complimenting her great personality and all that other shit but disses on how her figure does not inspire erections and it causes her to have a mental breakdown while on another date.

I think she's merely concealing her fat using a well-known SIF pose.

Post: #5

(07-06-2015 04:05 PM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  I think she's merely concealing her fat using a well-known SIF pose.

It's right there in the article:

Quote:In her response to him she wrote: “You may think are all my profile pictures are "FGASs" (That's Fat Girl Angle Shots) [...] But I think they're a fair representation. And I'm pretty upfront about who I am: I describe myself as a woman who loves pizza

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #6

The last person any 13-year old female should be taking advice from regarding "love, enjoy, and care for her body" is a women who declares her love for pizza. All them carbs.

Post: #7

No doubt she's as delusional as most women, but I still can't figure out why the hell the guy bothered to write that text.
I hate having to agree with her white knight friend who said "'no man would say that unless to wound and to cut somebody down", but he's right about that as one of two possibilities. The second is that the guy who wrote it was completely oblivious to the nature of a backhanded compliment (but seeing as he praised her face and called her the prettiest girl he's ever met, he must be oblivious to a many things).

I just don't see the point in insulting people I've only met once or a few times and don't want to see again. Unless they're practically asking for it with their behaviour, but then I'll do it immediately and to their face.

Post: #8

This guy sounds like a huge pussy. Why text her all that crap about loving her mind? I mean he is apologizing to her because she is fat. Just tell her you're not interested and move on.

Post: #9

(07-06-2015 03:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Has a mental breakdown about it while on another date and laments about how all this "independent woman" horse shit she has been spoon fed couldn't protect her fragile ego when a man tells her she could stand to lose a few to make her bangable. So what doe she do? Take it as a sign to do some self improvement?

I was going to post this story in the fat thread. Seriously, I can't actually believe her audacity to tell her date this as she got the text. What the fuck is wrong with her?

The man is actually a bit of a bitch for trying to justify his dis-interest. He left a "397 word message" but really needed only 6. "I see you as a friend." But telling her how great her personality is what just spun the hamster into overdrive.

The main problem with this woman was that she was pissed that she didn't get to reject him. She was on another date - she clearly didn't care about the other guy. But the fact that she was rejected....

There's nothing women hate more than being rejected sexually. Their brains can't handle it. It's almost as if it's embedded in her that if she's not sexually appeasing then she has no worth as a woman- and will do what she can to rectify that.

Post: #10

(07-06-2015 04:27 PM)MikeS Wrote:  No doubt she's as delusional as most women, but I still can't figure out why the hell the guy bothered to write that text.
I hate having to agree with her white knight friend who said "'no man would say that unless to wound and to cut somebody down", but he's right about that as one of two possibilities. The second is that the guy who wrote it was completely oblivious to the nature of a backhanded compliment (but seeing as he praised her face and called her the prettiest girl he's ever met, he must be oblivious to a many things).

I just don't see the point in insulting people I've only met once or a few times and don't want to see again. Unless they're practically asking for it with their behaviour, but then I'll do it immediately and to their face.

He opened his heart to her, and told her why it wasn't going to work, instead of just letting it die. That's not insulting, that's something a friend would do. It's not as if he said "Fuck off, Porky". Considering he has a daughter, and is out dating. I'm going to assume he isn't as savvy with women as we are here. He was trying to help her so that either 1) he can get a boner with her, or 2) something like this won't happen to her again. He's just ignorant of the fact that anytime a man says anything critical about a woman, he immediately becomes an evil shitlord perpetuating the misogynistic and racist patriarchy. The only mistake he made was caring.

Why work at bettering yourself so you can get what you desire when you can get your ego inflated by random people on the internet that really don't give a damn about you?

Post: #11

(07-06-2015 04:43 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 04:27 PM)MikeS Wrote:  No doubt she's as delusional as most women, but I still can't figure out why the hell the guy bothered to write that text.
I hate having to agree with her white knight friend who said "'no man would say that unless to wound and to cut somebody down", but he's right about that as one of two possibilities. The second is that the guy who wrote it was completely oblivious to the nature of a backhanded compliment (but seeing as he praised her face and called her the prettiest girl he's ever met, he must be oblivious to a many things).

I just don't see the point in insulting people I've only met once or a few times and don't want to see again. Unless they're practically asking for it with their behaviour, but then I'll do it immediately and to their face.

He opened his heart to her, and told her why it wasn't going to work, instead of just letting it die. That's not insulting, that's something a friend would do. It's not as if he said "Fuck off, Porky". Considering he has a daughter, and is out dating. I'm going to assume he isn't as savvy with women as we are here. He was trying to help her so that either 1) he can get a boner with her, or 2) something like this won't happen to her again. He's just ignorant of the fact that anytime a man says anything critical about a woman, he immediately becomes an evil shitlord perpetuating the misogynistic and racist patriarchy. The only mistake he made was caring.

Why work at bettering yourself so you can get what you desire when you can get your ego inflated by random people on the internet that really don't give a damn about you?

So possibility number 2 of those I listed then. That did seem like the most likely one.

As far as it being something I friend would say, sure, but personally I don't consider myself a friend of anyone I've just met so I would just have moved on and let her continue to make her own mistakes.
Though of course as opposed to him I'm also aware that anything I might have said would indeed just have been taken as an insult by her and as such been utterly pointless, unless it was to satisfy any mildly sadistic streak I may have had myself.

Post: #12

(07-06-2015 04:29 PM)Aenigmarius Wrote:  This guy sounds like a huge pussy. Why text her all that crap about loving her mind? I mean he is apologizing to her because she is fat. Just tell her you're not interested and move on.

Of course he has weak Game, but he may have even meant it as a motivation for her.

But we know that women don't see it that way anymore. They just double down and shovel more pizzas into their pie-holes.

Post: #13

(07-06-2015 04:05 PM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 04:01 PM)Hades Wrote:  She has a weird, blocky figure and inexplicably no ass or tits but I can't say that she's all that fat (compared to actual fatties).

It says a lot that she can get a letter that goes pretty over the top in kissing her ass and complimenting her great personality and all that other shit but disses on how her figure does not inspire erections and it causes her to have a mental breakdown while on another date.

I think she's merely concealing her fat using a well-known SIF pose.

Is that pose called the lay flat and ooze outwards so you don't look like a ball?

Post: #14

He might be a pussy...or he might have been annoyed with her bs and decided to be nice on the date and then completely wreck her shit by flipping the script and trolling her. Usually it's women who say you have a great personality and love you like a friend...but....

I'm nice to girls who like me but I'm not interested in. This is something I can see.myself doing if I was somehow forced to go on a date with a girl who misrepresented herself.

He wrecked her, while being polite, put her way beneath him status wise. Compounded with the fact she thought he was a loser, and he could probably tell she thought that, he just raped her psyche without doing anything that is overty aggressive.

Post: #15

He made 2 major mistakes: too her to dinner and wasted time explaining himself.

The last secret fattie I met on Tinder, I didn't even take out for drinks as I had promised. I was polite enough to walk around with her for an hour or so, then showed her the way to the nearest train station and took off. Never sent any messages either. Still, I think I wasted too much time, should have just turned around and left when I saw her.

Post: #16

(07-06-2015 03:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Only in the UK. Certain bits bolded for emphasis.


He wrote: “I'm not going to bull***t you... I f***ing adore you Michelle and I think you're the prettiest looking girl I've ever met.

Whhhaaaat? Neither the face nor the body is desirable, but if you had to pick either that face with a better body, or that body with a better face. . . God damn wouldn't you pick the body with a better face?

Post: #17

The female "solution" or reaction to anything is always to attention whore.

Post: #18

" I was on another date when I received the message "

This woman is clearly a catch she can get so Manu dates she is obviously beautiful and empowered and smart and sexy and independent she don't need no man

That single statement by itself is enough to automatically dismiss her whole story

Imagine the outrage had a man said that

I sincerely hope that dose of reality will hit home.. we can all have dreams right?

Side note, I know a female that is almost exactly a 20 something version of this bitch - tubby blocky body with a busted face, horrible greasy hair and skin, and just as delusional

Post: #19

(07-06-2015 10:17 PM)Architekt Wrote:  Side note, I know a female that is almost exactly a 20 something version of this bitch - tubby blocky body with a busted face, horrible greasy hair and skin, and just as delusional

That's literally 38%* of 20-something women in the Western world.

*I'm optimistic

Post: #20

First, she throws a tantrum about being called "wouldn't hurt to be slimmer" while describing the man as UNATTRACTIVE. Dealing with these women is exactly like dealing with children. I can almost understand the irrational emotional shit many girls display merely because our brains function differently. What I do not understand is their complete lack of logical thinking. He says the author is too fat. She says he is facially unattractive. How the hell could any adult mind not see that she is the one who showed more callous, insulting behavior?

Critiquing someone's attractiveness on their weight is exactly like critiquing their appearance based on a bad haircut. They are not (or should be) defining characteristics and can easily be changed.

Also, all these Tinder girls.... who proudly proclaims a love affair with a food? Imagine the response to guy who shouts out his love for beer and wings in his Tinder profile. It's all so fucking ridiculous.

Post: #21

The basic premise of feminism is on one hand insisting that desirable men find them desirable, but then bitching about unfair beauty standards when men don't want to fuck them.

While we accept that women like what they like, they don't understand that men too have the free will to desire whoever they choose.

Perhaps the biggest contradiction is that they want all women, especially morbidly obese women, to be considered beautiful. But judging them on their looks is shallow.

They make no sense. They're mentally retarded.

Post: #22

Don't you guys get it? She is doing it for the children, it is not about her. Think of the children! Attention whoring for the kids, lets start a charity! Anything but dieting...

Post: #23

Quote:"It's every woman's worst nightmare. It's this deep rooted thought that you have as a teenager and never really goes away that no matter how fun or clever you are, if you are a little bit overweight then nothing else matters to men.

A little bit is no problem but a little bit in her mind is around 35% to 45% body fat. While our fat acceptance radar is 35% to 30%, much lower for some men too. It's a very narrow range. If you're young and not aiming for under 30% body fat, then you're not trying hard enough. Exceptions are only made for pregnant women, and should promptly be lost and maintained under 35% body fat.

Quote:"The message confirmed this dormant fear that I think woman have.

I wish women would give in to this dormant fear more often, we wouldn't be in this mess today.

Post: #24

(07-06-2015 09:50 PM)Kabal Wrote:  The female "solution" or reaction to anything is always to attention whore.

Or to try to ban natural behaviors.

Self-improvement is off the table completely.

Post: #25

(07-07-2015 01:35 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  

The fattest chick on that diagram still has a thigh gap.

The truth is that a girl at 45% body fat is far more horrendous to look at than this picture would suggest.