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Hedge fund manager on £130,000 a year sues bank for £7million because 'male colleagues chatted in German and didn't invite her out for drinks after work'

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A City hedge fund manager is seeking £7million compensation after claiming she was excluded from the trading floor at a German bank dominated by a 'frat club' culture.

Foreign exchange manager Jenus Fiouzi, 43, claims key decisions at Commerzbank AG were made during all-male drinking sessions to which she was not invited.

She told a Central London Employment Tribunal her colleagues often spoke German in front of her, leaving her feeling 'isolated and outnumbered'.

Ms Fiouzi, who was born in Iran, but migrated to Canada at the age of 17, began working at the bank's London office in April 2013 on an annual salary of £130,000.

She was fired by the bank in October 2014 and is claiming £7million for loss of earnings and injury to feelings after suffering sex and race discrimination and unfair dismissal.

She was employed in foreign exchange sales as part of the Money Managers and Hedge Fund team and had previously worked at Credit Agicole, JP Morgan, Euromoney PLC and Citigroup.

Referring to her time at Commerzbank, she said she was aware there were more men than women working in the City.

She said: 'However, the culture was different at the Bank. It was a German male-dominated environment, especially in the senior management ranks.

'On and off the trading floor there was a German "boys' club" culture at the bank, which I would describe as akin to a college fraternity or frat club.

'There were no senior female managers in sales that I can recall.'

She said the sole woman on the trading side 'unexpectedly left the bank under a cloak of secrecy'.

Ms Fiouzi said: 'I later heard via the office grapevine that she had raised concerns about her treatment as a non-German female on the trading floor.

'After she left, all decision makers were German and I felt more isolated and outnumbered.'

She said her colleagues would socialise in the evening after work, and discuss officer matters.

Some of the traders 'would often chat with each other on (Bloomberg) Chat in German' and would go out for drinks after work 'inviting others to join them but not usually me, unless it was work-related'.

She said: 'It was quite clear to me that during their evenings together as is normal with colleagues, work would come up in conversation.

'It then became evident to me that decisions about work matters were being taken during drinking sessions because when the same matters later came up in the office, I was out of the loop.'

She added: 'The men's social relationships really strengthened their working relationships, so by excluding me from the social side, I felt they put up a barrier at work.

'My team frequently excluded me from business discussions by insisting on communicating in German when I was around.'

She said some colleagues would talk across her in German adding: 'This excluded me and made me feel uncomfortable and marginalised.

There genuinely were two sets of rules. One for German men and one for me.

'As a woman I was seen as easy to challenge and my achievements were less important than a man's, particularly a German man, and therefore easy to dismiss and redistribute to the wider team.'

She added: 'I am a woman who does not go around making these accusations lightly.

'I have worked in this industry, and it is a tough industry, for 15 years, where I have worked with lots of different people from lots of different nationalities and they are all mostly men.

'In 15 years I have never this level of discrimination in any workplace.

'I made suggestions about how to make improvements, but no one wanted to hear my suggestions. They said I was rocking the boat.'

Speaking outside the tribunal hearing, Jennifer Sole, of Ms Fiouzi's legal team, said: 'Ms Fiouzi is claiming around £7million from Commerzbank for loss of earnings and injury to feelings.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z3f8t9VcNO

She realized she was way too old to marry a rich guy then divorce him for at least half of all he had so she decided on the next best thing: Sue her work for around 14 million dorrah. Taking on a bank is not a very good idea, considering they have a team of lawyers on board and all records of everything she did while she was there, including transactions and emails.

Post: #2

I would argue that her allegations were probably true but having a hard time making drinking buddies and working at a job with mostly foreigners who insist on communicating with each other efficiently (if they're both german nationals, for instance, fuck speaking English) does not sound like grounds for an actual lawsuit.

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"'Ms Fiouzi is claiming around £7million from Commerzbank for loss of earnings and injury to feelings.'"
7 million dollars for "Injury to feelings."

Man, I'm in the wrong business.

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(07-06-2015 02:57 PM)Hades Wrote:  I would argue that her allegations were probably true but having a hard time making drinking buddies and working at a job with mostly foreigners who insist on communicating with each other efficiently (if they're both german nationals, for instance, fuck speaking English) does not sound like grounds for an actual lawsuit.

How much more would she be demanding from the bank if the guys had invited her out to an all-male drinking party?

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #5

(07-06-2015 02:57 PM)Hades Wrote:  I would argue that her allegations were probably true but having a hard time making drinking buddies and working at a job with mostly foreigners who insist on communicating with each other efficiently (if they're both german nationals, for instance, fuck speaking English) does not sound like grounds for an actual lawsuit.

At those levels and especially in cities like Frankfurt sexual harassment lawsuits are quickly dismissed and actually never filed, since a single judge usually decides. And believe me - that judge has no idea what male privilege means.

The guys probably behaved that way, but the men would have done the same if they were stuck with a male colleague they did not like. It had nothing to do with her being a woman.

Those bitches want to be part of every fucking male endeavor.

NEVER EVER HIRE WOMEN FOR ANY MEANINGFUL POSITION!

And in lawsuit-crazy countries you cannot even hire them as assistants or secretaries for fear of being slapped with a crazy gender discrimination or sexual harassment suit.

Post: #6

(07-06-2015 05:36 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 02:57 PM)Hades Wrote:  I would argue that her allegations were probably true but having a hard time making drinking buddies and working at a job with mostly foreigners who insist on communicating with each other efficiently (if they're both german nationals, for instance, fuck speaking English) does not sound like grounds for an actual lawsuit.

How much more would she be demanding from the bank if the guys had invited her out to an all-male drinking party?

Exactly.

Or men would have to put up with the "OMG, I'm offended by that" and all the censorship that comes when girls are around (even if we don't do it, other men will for fear of offending women).

But boys, it's coming. Mark my words, you will eventually be regulated by who you can hang out with after work, especially if any of the people you're hanging out with are colleagues.

Post: #7

(07-06-2015 05:53 PM)SunW Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 05:36 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 02:57 PM)Hades Wrote:  I would argue that her allegations were probably true but having a hard time making drinking buddies and working at a job with mostly foreigners who insist on communicating with each other efficiently (if they're both german nationals, for instance, fuck speaking English) does not sound like grounds for an actual lawsuit.

How much more would she be demanding from the bank if the guys had invited her out to an all-male drinking party?

Exactly.

Or men would have to put up with the "OMG, I'm offended by that" and all the censorship that comes when girls are around (even if we don't do it, other men will for fear of offending women).

But boys, it's coming. Mark my words, you will eventually be regulated by who you can hang out with after work, especially if any of the people you're hanging out with are colleagues.

... in much the same way you can get fired now for having an "incorrect" opinion eight years earlier, as Mozilla's CEO found out.

When I worked at a community newspaper chain, I remember there were about five black women from various departments who would all come together and go out to a specific happy hour after work every Friday.

If I were the lawyer for this company, I would have looked to see if this kind of thing went on there or elsewhere and used that as a defense. People at work form cliques all the time and hang out.

I wonder if women will next start suing couples who meet at work because they felt ostracized in some respect?

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Quote:'Ms Fiouzi is claiming around £7million [...] for injury to feelings.'

Canada.

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(07-06-2015 07:50 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  I wonder if women will next start suing couples who meet at work because they felt ostracized in some respect?

Women will start suing men who don't want to date them.

Post: #10

There is nothing more hateful then a woman being ignored. And how dare people speak in their mother tongue. God forbid she make any attempt to learn a little Deutsch and mix in- no, that would require her to work, which is something she obviously didn't want to do.

To her I say "leck mich im Arsch."

Post: #11

Check Return of Kings, I've got an article up about this.

Post: #12

That's funny when I go for work drinks we tend not to like it when the girls come... that way we gotta keep our filters on for any outrageous shit we wanna say.

Post: #13

No ring on that finger. Big surprise. Penis envy like a mofo from this bitch. She wants to be one of the guys or get fucked by one.

Post: #14

(07-06-2015 11:23 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(07-06-2015 07:50 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  I wonder if women will next start suing couples who meet at work because they felt ostracized in some respect?

Women will start suing men who don't want to date them.

No, that is what false rape accusations are for.