Post: #1

I'm beta as hell , yes I know that but I also want to change !

That's why after a month of reading up ROK/ROOSHV , I decided to ask for help here on the forums

Here's a list of my problems

1) I frequent a shop whose owner doesnt want me to approach girls within 50 meters of his shop (Im in good terms with owner and I respect him); said shop is situated in a junction where a lot of 7-9's frequently walk by. Its situated near a well known University where I studied .

2) I'm for a lack of a better term , not "hungry" enough to approach girls even if the owner tells me to go pick "that" one up (but 50m away from his shop); I'm always hoping to get a better one, too greedy? PS. the owner and I would grade girls as they pass by .

3) I experience brain freeze when I think of an opener on a 8 or above ... and she walks away...

4) I've read the book of Pook around 2 times... but haven't internalize 95% of it... is it normal? Or are there any better reads around? Or should i just jump to "practical"? Any reads i need to re-read?


As for day/night game SOLO-ing , I have a few choice locations that I have scouted out :

-A night market near my house with lots of tourists (100 aproach there?)
-A riverside old street with also alot of tourists.(100 aproach there?)




PS. Im looking for a LTR , I' dont like flings nor ONS, and that's my motivation to break out of my beta shell, to get a lifetime partner.

Post: #2

LOL what is the significance of this shop and its owner? If he's even a slight impediment to you getting girls, tell him and his shop to go fuck itself. Does he come out with a trundle-wheel to measure exactly 50m whenever he sees you approach a girl or something? Either you're taking him too literally or the guy sounds like a fruitloop.

As for other practical advice:
- On hunger: don't jerk off to porn, do weight training or other intense fitness activity, and visualize getting the girl in bed and slamming her pussy and how good it will feel.
- On action: yes just approach in any and all places. Your opener for an '8 or above' is "hello".

Post: #3

Lets just say the owner gives me near full access to his shop and I am somehow financially indebt to him.

For a lack of a better term , hes the local sausagefest for anything NOT relationship related. He gives great advice (barring relationship ones) to a new graduate like me.

It goes somewhere near the " you dont shit in the pond where you eat" mentality.


Anyway, "Hello" then what? "I would like to have your number" statement ?

I'm of the same ethnicity (Chinese) of the game , English openers ? (IMHO might sound too fake ) , I dont have the Foreigner looks nor "advantage" so to speak.

I also found that alot of girls like to hang out in groups of 2-4 , and there is only one among them that is the "pearl in the oyster".

Am I jumping too far? Or should I just get my 100 approach grind on the 2 hotspots I have scouted out in my 1st post?

Post: #4

Get your hundred approach grind.

We can theorize all you want regarding how you should approach but that's not the best strategy.

A better one is: you approach, say anything, have a conversation, get number, post details here.

Once we know those details, we can help you adjust.

Purpose of this exercise is to get you to think less about approaching because that's your biggest problem right now.

Post: #5

I feel like this interaction between you and the shop owner would be like watching a chinese episode of Seinfeld. I am intrigued.

Post: #6

#1. Stop frequenting that shop
#2. Stop fapping
#3. Your experimenting those brain freezes due to AA or approach aniexity. Read roosh's daybang to help you with it or...go ask 20 girls in a row for the time, or directions somewhere than leave immediately. After those 20 approaches increase to "excuse me, do you have the time"? (After she tells you the time) make a comment (not a compliment) about something shes wearing "damn you have a lot of hair, i bet black girls must hate on you daily" that should help with your "brain freezes"
4. Agian read roosh's own daybang, but read bang first.
Everyone on here is going to tell you to approach. They are 100% right. No amount of reading can replace your own interations with woman. Now you know how to get started with small talk go approach and dont come back until you have approached at least 50 girls. Have fun and welcome to the red pill life!

Post: #7

3. That's normal to freeze up cause you haven't done it enough yet. Once you have done it 100 times, it will be easy! So what number are you up to, 2, 8, 12? You aren't even close to 100 yet! Keep pushing and get the first 100 out of the way. Look at it as practise where the next 100+ you will be able to close cause you learnt to control you nerves.

Post: #8

I second s3k
Read Daybang first. Work the routine.

Practice the routines and approach. You will fail, but so what?
Another thought - practice "not hitting on girls". Go to other locations, meetups and other social events and just talk to girls. In any event just talk with 5 of them. That will help you "practice".After 2-3 events you will know how to talk to girls.

Then - Go and approach. You will fail. Miserably. So what?
After hitting on 100 girls you will get laid and have an LTR.

Go get them!