Post: #26

(06-29-2015 10:37 AM)reachman Wrote:  [b]Report: Day 2 Saturday, June 27
She asked me to fuck her without a condom and I declined and used a rubber each time.

Great report.
Never go raw on a girl that wants no rubber.

Post: #27

Loving the report. My ex, a pinay mentioned a dislike for condoms lol. Then again she had a kid back in Phil, and let me rawdog everytime we fucked. She has a kid now with another guy lol. Be safe.

Post: #28

(06-29-2015 11:22 AM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 10:37 AM)reachman Wrote:  [b]Report: Day 2 Saturday, June 27
She asked me to fuck her without a condom and I declined and used a rubber each time.

Great report.
Never go raw on a girl that wants no rubber.

I guess I will never understand. And I am not questioning the quality of reachman or any guy here. And I make a series of assumptions in my example below. So I appreciate a little latitude.

But how does a girl go, "you know, this guy I just met him of FC. And I know he might not be here long, but I want to raw dog with this guy. Hoping to have a kid."

Just blows my mind that they think there is a reward that outweighs the risks. Yes, if she can track you down and pin you down, maybe she wins. But they seem to wanna take these risks early. What if she can't track you down?

Crazy...I can't wrap my head around that thinking...or lack of

Post: #29

(06-29-2015 11:22 AM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 10:37 AM)reachman Wrote:  [b]Report: Day 2 Saturday, June 27
She asked me to fuck her without a condom and I declined and used a rubber each time.

Great report.
Never go raw on a girl that wants no rubber.

Thank Rishboy77 and wrIghtman! Yes, I plan to keep the rubber on for the rest of the trip. I will get tested back in Canada after my trip anyhow.

Post: #30

Sam,
Easy. The answer is they all want a mix baby as mix babies (pinoy and white) are not only adorable but when they grow up, they are more attractive, taller and whiter than locals. And all of these are major factors in how one is treated and viewed socially in Asia and even more so in the Phils. Take a look at Pinoy tv, whether it's actors/actresses, singers, tv presenters and even politicians or the rare occurrence of top level Pinoy athletes, he/she is going to be in 99% of the cases, a result of a mix baby between a local woman and a poreigner.

Doesn't matter if the girl can't track and pin him down to force him to take care of both the baby and her financially, because of the way the typical pinoy family structure is, even more so among the lower classes, the extended family (grand parents/parents, siblings, aunts/uncles, neighbours etc...will take care of raising the kid back in the province while the girl stays in the big city (mainly Manila, Cebu or Davao) or if lucky and bright, go work overseas and send most if not all of her salary to the family back in the province.

So for a middle to lower class Pinay, whether she can pin the foreign guy down or not, she's going to win either way. Jackpot if he marries her and takes her out of the Phils; life changing if she gets pregnant and gets a cute, tall and whiter baby out of it and the guy helps with it. Even if he doesn't, she still wins and gains face among her circle for having a cute "Kano" baby.

Win-win for most of the lower classes. Not so much among the educated upper middle class girls. However, some in that social class still exhibit the thinking of her lower classed sisters. So needless to say, bang away with caution and raw dog at your own risks and perils boys!

Warning, I may not be the best to give advice on wrapping it up as more occasions than I can count it, I've got carried away in the heat of the moment and raw dogged her, if not the first time, at the most, the 2nd round onward.

Still we gotta be careful and think with the Big Head and limit the thinking influence of Jr as much as possible.

Unless you do want to get a cute, mixed Pinay/Pinoy baby, then shoot away at your heart's desire!

Post: #31

(06-29-2015 08:30 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 11:22 AM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 10:37 AM)reachman Wrote:  [b]Report: Day 2 Saturday, June 27
She asked me to fuck her without a condom and I declined and used a rubber each time.

Great report.
Never go raw on a girl that wants no rubber.

I guess I will never understand. And I am not questioning the quality of reachman or any guy here. And I make a series of assumptions in my example below. So I appreciate a little latitude.

But how does a girl go, "you know, this guy I just met him of FC. And I know he might not be here long, but I want to raw dog with this guy. Hoping to have a kid."

Just blows my mind that they think there is a reward that outweighs the risks. Yes, if she can track you down and pin you down, maybe she wins. But they seem to wanna take these risks early. What if she can't track you down?

Crazy...I can't wrap my head around that thinking...or lack of

Samsamsam, I totally understand where you are coming from on this. I also cannot understand that type of thinking. That is also the only way I can rationalize her asking me to rawdog. If not to fake a pregnancy or get pregnant, then I can't think of another angle.

Post: #32

They probably figure they could spring a pregancy on a dude who rawdogged and blasted inside her, and get him to send her money from overseas.

Be careful, don't underestimate those sweet filipinas. They can be wily.

Post: #33

(06-29-2015 09:21 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  They probably figure they could spring a pregancy on a dude who rawdogged and blasted inside her, and get him to send her money from overseas.

Be careful, don't underestimate those sweet filipinas. They can be wily.

This is true, but for the most part they have a mixed child. Celebs over there are sometimes mixed so they are chasing the dream of having rich offspring that support their parent.

Many times the guy is none the wiser. Some girl i was chatting to sent her FB details to me and later I took a look, saw a half white kid and asked her about it. She said, "I hooked up with a US military guy on a one nighter, never saw him again and have none of his details. We (child and I) are happy though and getting on with our lives". The guy will never know he has a kid in a tropical Afghanistan.

Post: #34

(06-29-2015 09:21 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Be careful, don't underestimate those sweet filipinas. They can be wily.

Wily is putting it mildly.

Gentlemen, these women will eat you alive if you let them.

I'd estimate that 80-90% of the online girls are scammers in one way or another.

Spend some time on the ground and talk to the expats here. You will find that almost all of them have been taken to the cleaners at least once by a "sweet Filipina". And some several times. We are talking 6-7 figure damage here in many cases. It doesn't get talked about much here on the forum, but it's the reality.

And don't think you are somehow immune because you have "game". You're not.

To a poor girl, the game is survival. Not just for her, but for her whole family. These girls know the game far better than most of us. They gain your trust and you think she is different. Just be careful out there.

Post: #35

(06-29-2015 11:11 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 09:21 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Be careful, don't underestimate those sweet filipinas. They can be wily.

Wily is putting it mildly.

Gentlemen, these women will eat you alive if you let them.

I'd estimate that 80-90% of the online girls are scammers in one way or another.

Spend some time on the ground and talk to the expats here. You will find that almost all of them have been taken to the cleaners at least once by a "sweet Filipina". And some several times. We are talking 6-7 figure damage here in many cases. It doesn't get talked about much here on the forum, but it's the reality.

And don't think you are somehow immune because you have "game". You're not.

To a poor girl, the game is survival. Not just for her, but for her whole family. These girls know the game far better than most of us. They gain your trust and you think she is different. Just be careful out there.

Could you elaborate on the 6-7 figure damages that seem to be prevelant in the Philippines? If it's as common as you mentioned, why isn't it discussed on these forums? That seems like a huge red flag for me.

Post: #36

Fraud. I met a guy here who lost over $2 million through his ex wife's criminality.

Just google it.

American marines being taken to the cleaners. Retirees getting whacked off by the Filipino boyfriend. It happens regularly.

Some of those online chicks are also on Filipino Cupid etc as a full-time job.

I don't know why it's not discussed, but I'm guessing because:

a) This is a game forum. We focus on banging, not LTR talk.
b) Guys around here are younger so marriage and divorce isn't quite on the radar yet.
c) People like the idea of a paradise away from their home country (I can relate!).

Not to be a downer, but I can assure you that marrying a non-rich Filipina is an extremely risky venture. While there are many great aspects of this country, the culture also has a certain opportunistic streak to it. Maybe we should start a thread for SEA scams/scammer girls and deal with it there.

Post: #37

(06-29-2015 09:18 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Sam,
Easy. The answer is they all want a mix baby as mix babies (pinoy and white) are not only adorable but when they grow up, they are more attractive, taller and whiter than locals. And all of these are major factors in how one is treated and viewed socially in Asia and even more so in the Phils. Take a look at Pinoy tv, whether it's actors/actresses, singers, tv presenters and even politicians or the rare occurrence of top level Pinoy athletes, he/she is going to be in 99% of the cases, a result of a mix baby between a local woman and a poreigner.

Doesn't matter if the girl can't track and pin him down to force him to take care of both the baby and her financially, because of the way the typical pinoy family structure is, even more so among the lower classes, the extended family (grand parents/parents, siblings, aunts/uncles, neighbours etc...will take care of raising the kid back in the province while the girl stays in the big city (mainly Manila, Cebu or Davao) or if lucky and bright, go work overseas and send most if not all of her salary to the family back in the province.

So for a middle to lower class Pinay, whether she can pin the foreign guy down or not, she's going to win either way. Jackpot if he marries her and takes her out of the Phils; life changing if she gets pregnant and gets a cute, tall and whiter baby out of it and the guy helps with it. Even if he doesn't, she still wins and gains face among her circle for having a cute "Kano" baby.

Win-win for most of the lower classes. Not so much among the educated upper middle class girls. However, some in that social class still exhibit the thinking of her lower classed sisters. So needless to say, bang away with caution and raw dog at your own risks and perils boys!

Warning, I may not be the best to give advice on wrapping it up as more occasions than I can count it, I've got carried away in the heat of the moment and raw dogged her, if not the first time, at the most, the 2nd round onward.

Still we gotta be careful and think with the Big Head and limit the thinking influence of Jr as much as possible.

Unless you do want to get a cute, mixed Pinay/Pinoy baby, then shoot away at your heart's desire!

Sage advice! I have so much to learn. I'm indebted to you and others on this forum for your knowledge in this area.

Post: #38

(06-29-2015 09:18 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Warning, I may not be the best to give advice on wrapping it up as more occasions than I can count it, I've got carried away in the heat of the moment and raw dogged her, if not the first time, at the most, the 2nd round onward.

I hear you bother. I don't think there is a guy out there that has not been guilty of this indiscretion at some point ever ......me included. My own feeling is that I feel safer going raw with girls that took a few dates at least too bang versus a ONS or a foreign groupie type that was too easy.

I'm more concerned about catching a STD then impregnating a girl.

Post: #39

It seems to me you'd have to be naive to be taken for 6 figures + by a Filipina. The only way I see them getting that out of anyone is if you buy them a home which in it is own right is stupid. Would you buy your girlfriend a house in North America? 99.99% of the forum wouldn't.

Post: #40

(06-30-2015 08:17 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  It seems to me you'd have to be naive to be taken for 6 figures + by a Filipina. The only way I see them getting that out of anyone is if you buy them a home which in it is own right is stupid. Would you buy your girlfriend a house in North America? 99.99% of the forum wouldn't.

Do you think that every guy who loses his home in a divorce bought the house in his wife's or girlfriend's name?

Post: #41

Is it just me that finds the Tagalog language really annoying? I feel like I am losing braincells listening to their language.

Filipinos are really nice and all but fuck.. I cannot stand their language.

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Anyway good start to the thread reachman I'm sure you will leave there feeling like a King. Just be confident and motivated and slay as many as you can .

If you do daygame just be careful shes not a poor chick. Easy signs that she is poor will be dirty face, ragged clothes, has a kid with her, will latch onto you when you speak just a few words. Not only can this cause many problems for you but you can do a lot better even if you just sit on tinder in your hotel room.

Post: #42

The problem of getting scammed and losing money to girls in places like Thailand and the Phils is brought up often by expats in Asia on their forums. I used to check out those forums for Asia intel before I discovered RVF. A lot of those guys are just fucking clueless and have it coming. Long before I discovered game and RVF, i often wondered how can a man who is smart enough to earn several hundred thousand dollars can be dumb enough to give it to his new "wife" in Thailand or Phils to buy a house, because you can't buy a standalone house in your name in either of these countries.

RVF guys are very astute and savvy compared to the average guy. Even when a potential sucker appears somewhere in the newbie section with his stupid ideas about giving chicks money and putting them on a pedestal, more experienced players start giving him shit immediately and put him on the right path if he is willing to learn. That's what's great about this forum. A big part of game is knowing what not to do.

Post: #43

(06-30-2015 11:19 AM)Grind Wrote:  Is it just me that finds the Tagalog language really annoying? I feel like I am losing braincells listening to their language.

Filipinos are really nice and all but fuck.. I cannot stand their language.

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Anyway good start to the thread reachman I'm sure you will leave there feeling like a King. Just be confident and motivated and slay as many as you can .

If you do daygame just be careful shes not a poor chick. Easy signs that she is poor will be dirty face, ragged clothes, has a kid with her, will latch onto you when you speak just a few words. Not only can this cause many problems for you but you can do a lot better even if you just sit on tinder in your hotel room.

Thanks Grind! I am trying to do just that! Yes, thanks for the tip about poor girls - there are many in Malate and I avoid them. I just went on Tinder on Tuesday afternoon after a tip from another Roosh'er. There are a lot of sexy girls on Tinder in Manila!

Post: #44

(06-30-2015 12:15 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  The problem of getting scammed and losing money to girls in places like Thailand and the Phils is brought up often by expats in Asia on their forums. I used to check out those forums for Asia intel before I discovered RVF. A lot of those guys are just fucking clueless and have it coming. Long before I discovered game and RVF, i often wondered how can a man who is smart enough to earn several hundred thousand dollars can be dumb enough to give it to his new "wife" in Thailand or Phils to buy a house, because you can't buy a standalone house in your name in either of these countries.

RVF guys are very astute and savvy compared to the average guy. Even when a potential sucker appears somewhere in the newbie section with his stupid ideas about giving chicks money and putting them on a pedestal, more experienced players start giving him shit immediately and put him on the right path if he is willing to learn. That's what's great about this forum. A big part of game is knowing what not to do.

Brodiaga, I really enjoyed your Jakarta thread!

Post: #45

(06-30-2015 08:17 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  It seems to me you'd have to be naive to be taken for 6 figures + by a Filipina. The only way I see them getting that out of anyone is if you buy them a home which in it is own right is stupid. Would you buy your girlfriend a house in North America? 99.99% of the forum wouldn't.

More like she gains access to the deeds and forges your signature. The house is then sold or loans are made against it and the resulting assets are dispersed before you even know what happened. I believe that's all it takes.

You are supposed to be able to trust your wife of all people. I don't think a guy has to be that naive for this to happen to him.

Takeaway: Keep the actual deeds locked up in a safe with the combination known only to you.

Post: #46

I mean, to take loans against your house, the owner would have to show up to the bank or the lending company atleast, in North America. If the guys name is John Smith and Lik-Soo shows up and tries to claim her husband has signed an authorization to get a loan, it likely wouldn't fly.

I think the more likely scenario in all of these guys getting smoked is they are married, and buy a house. Brodiaga pointed out that a foreigner can't own a stand alone house in Phils and Thailand in your name.

The other possibility is that these girls are getting access to their US assets which is another story all together. That wouldn't be naive.

That should be a big warning "CAVEAT EMPTOR" - buyer beware.

Post: #47

What about when you don't buy or own a house, and your business is all online (i.e. without a physical or official presence in the Philippines or any other country you're posting up in)? Is there anything else we have to watch out for, apart from getting a girl pregnant?

Post: #48

(06-30-2015 01:26 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 08:17 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  It seems to me you'd have to be naive to be taken for 6 figures + by a Filipina. The only way I see them getting that out of anyone is if you buy them a home which in it is own right is stupid. Would you buy your girlfriend a house in North America? 99.99% of the forum wouldn't.

More like she gains access to the deeds and forges your signature. The house is then sold or loans are made against it and the resulting assets are dispersed before you even know what happened. I believe that's all it takes.

You are supposed to be able to trust your wife of all people. I don't think a guy has to be that naive for this to happen to him.

Takeaway: Keep the actual deeds locked up in a safe with the combination known only to you.

Also, I am sure there are people who will be helping her. So a notarized forged signature through a friend who is notary would not be hard I imagine. Especially if he or she is getting a cut. They just have the attitude who is it really hurting? Just a foreigner.

Post: #49

(06-29-2015 08:30 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 11:22 AM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 10:37 AM)reachman Wrote:  [b]Report: Day 2 Saturday, June 27
She asked me to fuck her without a condom and I declined and used a rubber each time.

Great report.
Never go raw on a girl that wants no rubber.

I guess I will never understand. And I am not questioning the quality of reachman or any guy here. And I make a series of assumptions in my example below. So I appreciate a little latitude.

But how does a girl go, "you know, this guy I just met him of FC. And I know he might not be here long, but I want to raw dog with this guy. Hoping to have a kid."

Just blows my mind that they think there is a reward that outweighs the risks. Yes, if she can track you down and pin you down, maybe she wins. But they seem to wanna take these risks early. What if she can't track you down?

Crazy...I can't wrap my head around that thinking...or lack of

It seemed bizarre to me too-- that I could just brazenly say "I want to get you pregnant"--at first half joking-- and many would promptly answer shyly and seriously "OK."

Now I brazenly say it as a screening. Only full on 9's will dismiss me. almost all other chicks will want it-- the middle class ones will say they will do it but want to wait until they finish college. Almost all lower class(95-97% of people) will agree immediately as long as you marry them first, or even just promise to marry them.

You have to understand the context: our child-having dreams-- due to your growing up in a wealthy country-- have to end in a minimum lower-middle class existence for that child, as anything below that is relatively miserable from what you have seen.

In the Philippines, what Americans would consider "middle class" is less than by my guess 5% of the population, probably more like 2%.

As an analogy, if Americans looked at kids with the same attitude, no one would have kids unless the kid would almost certainly go to medical school or become an investment banker. Most Americans know that's just not realistic, but they still want to have children. A financially secure but not prosperous life as a bureaucrat or X-ray technician is still seen as worth living.

The analogy in the Phils is that to a local life at subsistence level, living with relatives in the province, is still worth living. In fact, because of the lack of funds for conspicuous consumption, people take more joy in each others' company than in wealthy countries. It's all they've got.

IT'S NORMAL. It's the most common mode, and people can get used to almost anything especially if they know nothing else.

To me it's scary- no dental care, chronic illnesses untreated, higher incidence of cancer due to pollution ( I know a few women who have either had cancer or have kids in her family that did-- it seems way more prevalent than in USA.)

People with BA in Hotel Management make less than one dollar an hour in a cafe ( personal interview source) and have very little chance to make it into the middle class.

The difference between her half-white baby with a total absentee father and her baby from a local guy is:

1) Kid will be better looking and get her more status.
2) The foreigner will usually have FAR more money than the local guy so there is probably more chance of getting money from the foreigner unless she is doing one night stands.

I saw some rather touching and sad scenarios here at the hotel-apartments I live at because they offer rentals for only a month.

A young foreigner would visit his baby's mother for a month, they would live together for that time, and then they would be gone, with the man I guess going back to his rich country because he didn't get the girl into USA or Australia etc., and the girl going back to her overcrowded city apartment or the province.

The kid still probably got far better medical care from the foreigner's sending money that it would have gotten from a local dad.

I've learned a lot: Fulfilling your natural desire to reproduce is literally the most natural thing in the world.NO ONE has the right to judge you for it. It is an existential right.

Post: #50

(06-29-2015 09:18 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Sam,
Easy. The answer is they all want a mix baby as mix babies (pinoy and white) are not only adorable but when they grow up, they are more attractive, taller and whiter than locals. And all of these are major factors in how one is treated and viewed socially in Asia and even more so in the Phils. Take a look at Pinoy tv, whether it's actors/actresses, singers, tv presenters and even politicians or the rare occurrence of top level Pinoy athletes, he/she is going to be in 99% of the cases, a result of a mix baby between a local woman and a poreigner.

Doesn't matter if the girl can't track and pin him down to force him to take care of both the baby and her financially, because of the way the typical pinoy family structure is, even more so among the lower classes, the extended family (grand parents/parents, siblings, aunts/uncles, neighbours etc...will take care of raising the kid back in the province while the girl stays in the big city (mainly Manila, Cebu or Davao) or if lucky and bright, go work overseas and send most if not all of her salary to the family back in the province.

So for a middle to lower class Pinay, whether she can pin the foreign guy down or not, she's going to win either way. Jackpot if he marries her and takes her out of the Phils; life changing if she gets pregnant and gets a cute, tall and whiter baby out of it and the guy helps with it. Even if he doesn't, she still wins and gains face among her circle for having a cute "Kano" baby.

Win-win for most of the lower classes. Not so much among the educated upper middle class girls. However, some in that social class still exhibit the thinking of her lower classed sisters. So needless to say, bang away with caution and raw dog at your own risks and perils boys!

Warning, I may not be the best to give advice on wrapping it up as more occasions than I can count it, I've got carried away in the heat of the moment and raw dogged her, if not the first time, at the most, the 2nd round onward.

Still we gotta be careful and think with the Big Head and limit the thinking influence of Jr as much as possible.

Unless you do want to get a cute, mixed Pinay/Pinoy baby, then shoot away at your heart's desire!

Vacancier, this is the case more or less, in South America, SE Asia, Africa, Middle East or even E. Europe. White male genes are valued all over the world. That is why, since I am of mixed race, I do well in 3rd world countries, but not so well in E. European countries.
Women's choices are almost as simple as ours.