Post: #101

So I'm going to be in SF this weekend. Of those clubs which is best to bring girl to (some hip hop is a plus)? I'll be in Union Sq area.

Post: #102

I am originally from the San Francisco Bay Area and recently moved back from Los Angeles. I go out quite frequently and am pretty familiar with the nightlife. I go out not only in San Francisco but also the East Bay, South Bay, North Bay and even Sacramento area. If anybody is in town and looking for a reliable wingman or just has any questions about the area message me!

Post: #103

I am looking for wings 21 years of age or older to add to my tight knit group of guys in their 20s and looser knit group of guys under 35.

I'm in my late 20s and at an intermediate level in game and get pretty good results. I feel like I've met a significant portion of the SF PUA community, be it the reddit or RSD guys. Been in too many group chats to count and looking for other people who would fit well with my group. I don't day game right now but would be open to learning. I like club game over dive bar game.
Prefer to sarge on weekend nights, list of preferred venues:

*Thursday: Polk St
*Friday: A night club or Marina/North Beach
*Saturday: See Friday

I wasn't a social butterfly growing up and still struggle with AA and social skills a lot, but I've put in a lot of work to change my life and prospects and want to meet other people who are positive and who have achieved results or have a good work ethic. I am not skilled enough to teach or help total beginners but am open to gaming with them if they are cool. People who can add value in some way preferred (sorry, just being honest).

If you are interested shoot me a PM with your Facebook/Instagram or a little bit about yourself.

Post: #104

The gender ratio is so skewed in the bay that girls can walk down any street and get loads of attention. Combine this with the fact that many girls have gay friends and two things happen.
1. Most girls out at night in mixed groups are winging for their gay friends. The ten percent of gay guys in sf means that thirty to forty percent of girls will not be comfortable displaying hetero behavior that does not coincide with the goals of their gay friends.
2. Guys moved away from sf nightlife after realizing there's few attractive straight women (many clubs that used to charge cover won't now since the hype of the Gay Area died down). Unfortunately, the gays viewed this exodus as discrimination and migrated en masse to other areas of the bay. You used to see gay pride signs only in sf, now they are all throughout the Bay. In 10 or 20 years straight will be the minority in the Bay.

Post: #105

My group of wings and myself are getting great results in SF lately, however a bunch of the group is moving away. Seeking new blood, PM me, check my post above for details.

Post: #106

Bay Area where 5's behave like 9's

Fuck this place, didn't realize how bad it was here until I started traveling. I clean the fuck up anywhere else - solid 8's with barely any effort and 9's with a good tight frame.

Leave if you can. The City is full of 30-something 6-7's that want providers, you can fuck there if you have style and are in good shape and are deceitful about your end game. Get a vas.

Fuck this Schumeresque cuntery.

Post: #107

Yeah, sounds like where I live in California too. Honestly, I think the main problem is that there are just too many good looking guys and faux alphas. Almost all of California has bad ratios and guys are in shape, makes it kind of hard to stand out.

Post: #108

Not sure I agree in Northern California, here broads want providers unless you're striking in the early 20's. The guys are mostly engineers, which means intelligent, sometimes interesting but mostly maladroit and lumpy - but chicks figure out that that's the guy that's getting her the steals and the house in PAC heights or woodside. Still you can strike about 30% of the males from the roster as incels.

I'm far up there for my age group and while I do get attention I do t get stopped in the club district by coeds telling me cute I am and "let's hang out" here. I'd have to opt for baggage ridden old hags that have fucked everything. Not to mention that because of the large gay and hereroflexible male population HIV is a real risk with crossover - which occurs a lot here - even with condoms it's a higher risk enough that I simply rather not take it. Here the trick is to find a hot chick and LTR it.

Post: #109

San Francisco isn't great, I agree. You have to target new transplants or expats to get real high quality here. I have tapped into this social circle and it's paying dividends. Just cold approaching at bars is going to be rough. Much better to know wealthy expats and get VIP/bottle service situations regularly.

PM me if you are interested.

Post: #110

If you know how to dress in this city, women will attack you. Look at most of the men around you, and act accordingly (dress sharply.)

Post: #111

In the Bay Area for a few weeks & down to game.

I can do DG or NG. Let me know if you want a wing, thanks!

Post: #112

So did DG solo & with a wing these few days in the Santana Row / Valley Fair Mall strip.

Was fun & a better experience than I thought. I see potential here in the future.

I didn't really need to be dressed that well (probably still helps though) & could have fun conversations with good looking women.

At first I thought Bay Area was a doomed pit land, but gaming here solo + especially with a young wing with a lot of energy opened my eyes & pulled me out of my funk.

Post: #113

any 2tier cities near San Francisco for conservative women?

Post: #114

Is there anything to do here if I am not into asians? Going here for work for a few days.

Post: #115

(03-27-2018 12:58 PM)nzd Wrote:  any 2tier cities near San Francisco for conservative women?

Not sure what you mean by conservative women. Politically conservative? Socially conservative?

(03-27-2018 01:06 PM)oilbreh Wrote:  Is there anything to do here if I am not into asians? Going here for work for a few days.

No, there's absolutely nothing to do in San Francisco, one of the most interesting, cosmopolitan cities in this country.

I recommend going straight back to your hotel after work. Otherwise you might run into an Asian.

Post: #116

Can anyone name some good hotel bars or lounges in SF? Are the ratios still bad at those places?

Post: #117

Hahahaha @corsega

Post: #118

(03-27-2018 01:06 PM)oilbreh Wrote:  Is there anything to do here if I am not into asians? Going here for work for a few days.

What do you mean by "do here"? Hitting clubs and bars? Day game at parks? There are already several data sheets on this forum detailing what you can do.

Post: #119

Santa Clara isn’t San Francisco. Get to the city!

Read my sheet on where to go out.

Post: #120

Admittedly very limited as I just moved here after a divorce and am recovering from surgery. Also not too thirsty as I have good work situation. Mostly just observation at this point.
Beautiful blondes in East Contra Costa County. San Mateo County, where I work, is a dead zone for day game. Mostly old people. SF financial District around Market & Montgomery and East, has seen an influx of young, cute women d/t Salesforce coming in. Also, lots of cuties around the Valencia Street area. Trying for Latinas on 24th East of Mission is a waste. It looks like TJ, but just old people and bums. People are generally not friendly here. I’ve been to 40 States and The SF Area has the least friendly people. I would say, that younger, female sales clerks/waitress are almost always friendly and a little flirty. I’ve been able to get a few free drinks and a date.
Without much work.

once that barrier is broken, women have been nice. Even the lesbians. I haven’t encountered any man-hating feminists.
A lot of guys are tech workers, often forieigners. Many are beta and not very fit. Also, in SF at least, guys seem less aggressive in clubs/ bars. Social Circle game is huge here as everyone seems to know someone. I rarely see guys hitting on girls
clubs/bars. And the few I did see, struck out.

Just observations at this point. Hopefully by Spring, I’ll jump in the pool.

Post: #121

I live in Berkeley, and have done a fair bit of daygame and nightgame both in Berkeley and in SF. The truth is that the bay area has seen a huge change of scene in the past few years (mostly for the worse) and that is mainly showing in the outskirts of the bay area, namely Oakland/Berkeley and South Bay both in the venues and the nightlife vibe.

Getting to the point, daygaming has been way more fruitful in Berkeley, as the nightlife is equivalent to dog shit, as no body goes out at night in Berkeley anymore, not even the 18 yo frat kids. The best option has been daygaming in cafes and around the libraries, and that's been incredibly successful in terms of building social circle and getting numbers, but then again, students are quite busy with their studies and since there's almost nothing to do at night in Berkeley/Oakland, setting up dates could be way more challenging than you might think, even after amazing interactions and solid numbers. I would assume this would still hold true around Stanford and South Bay in general, as the nightlife is abysmal.

Logistics are a very important part of game anywhere around the globe, especially in SF. It will be incredibly hard to pull from SF to Berkeley or South Bay, if the girl doesn't already live there. In fact in the past 3 years of my game, I've only been able to pull from SF to Berkeley a handful of times. Having a solid place or a tinted SUV near the bars or clubs that you're going is a key to pulling, otherwise, you might as well take your laptop and books with you, so you stay productive in the bar.

Nightlife in SF: From my experience and inquiring around my social circle, the nightlife in Mission district is mostly a miss. It's very Ghetto, and I can't remember the last time I've seen a hot (8 or above) there in the past couple of years, and that's mainly why I avoid going there.
The best pulls I've done has been in Marina area. The women are a lot hotter, but then again, it could be quite difficult due to logistics, as most girls are there with their roommates, and very few hot girls want to be known as the slut of the house.

Main personal challenge: My main challenge in gaming in the bay has been to find a good wing. And by good wing I mean someone who wants to get better, and is not a pussy to approach. I've gone out with a lot of castrated guys, and have decided that it's much better to go out alone than having a wing man with no balls. So, reach out if you have passed the stage of extreme approach anxiety, and we might expand this franchise.

Stay positive and don't let failure discourage you, and believe me you're going to face a lot of failure if you want to make great strides in your dating/relationship life, especially in this shitty town.

Post: #122

Yeah no way you bother trying to pull a girl across the bridge after a night out.

If youre in East side you stick there and run on girls that side. Most Berkely girls were going to Oakland to party or doing local social circle stuff so thats prolly still the move.

The Marina ive always hated and avoided but the Mission has decent spots if you know where to go.

My sheet is a bit old but still mostly on point.