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(05-07-2019 01:34 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 12:56 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 12:45 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 12:41 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 12:18 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  NAFTA and TPP were good moves, but there are rumors out there that bigger and further reaching deals are in the works. Regardless, the jobs are not coming back to keep up with population due to technology and immigration. They never will.

Paris Agreement was a joke, but pulling out maybe put a few pennies in the average American's pocket.

Iran deal back out looks like a complete disaster and if pushes us into a war in Iran it may be the true death blow of the entire west. Iran isn't Iraq or Afghanistan, it is a real country with a large population, a modern military and maybe will get support from Russia or China. If from China, it is likely China can already shut down our top weapons by pushing a key on a keyboard, as we watch ships and plans crash around the Chinese region.

Add these up and it is little to nothing for the average American. In the mean time housing prices and college prices and health care prices continue to increase at a rate much greater than income increases. The wealth continues to float to the top and stay there.

We have to start looking at things in reality. And that is the USA will be run by Democrats in 10 years, or maybe less.

War with Iran would be serious. That does not mean it is not necessary. That does not mean the US does not have a bag of tricks of its own

The recent decision to fly American air power over US cities is concerning. Ive seen a couple jets and an attack helicopter just flew over. Kind of makes you think.

As boomers die off the GOP will have to lighten its stance on certain things, like abortion, to remain viable. The demographics shift is inevitable at this point.

Why in the world would war with Iran be necessary right now? The American people are being destroyed, we already lost $6 trillion on Iraq and Afghanistan, and in return have nothing to show for it, so now we are going after a much bigger target. Iran isn't a threat to the American working class who are now looking at 50 year mortgages and a life of debt slavery just so they can send their kids to safe schools.

Abortion isn't going to be enough for the GOP to remain relevant. They will have to match and even one up the handouts the Democrats offer. And we all know where that ends up. An economic collapse.

If Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz we are going to war, and we will reopen it.

The Libs promise all of this free stuff but it is all BS. Even if they could tax the wealthy 70% they will still have to raise the taxes of working Americans. That will go over like a fart in church.

And why would they shut down the Strait of Hormuz?

Because of Trump's sanctions (an existential threat.)

Can the (((press))) spin that to justify the war? Possibly.

Hey on an unrelated note...

I think you should drop the ((( ))) thing. It's gotten kind of silly. Yes yes, we all know that ((( ))) is a secret code word for "jewish".

But now we all know the secret code, so it's not that cool any more.

I think if you just say "jewish press" or "jewish-dominated press" that will be just as good.

Thanks!
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(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  
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(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency.

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

His biggest mistake early on was working with the GOP establishment; followed by pushing out Bannon 8 months into his term and then entirely diverting to Javanka on many things. That's why his technical majority of two years amounted to hardly anything MAGA getting done except tax cuts for multi-national corporations.

If Trump was smart, he would have played hardball with the GOPe. If it blew up into an open conflict with the GOPe, he could have used that as a rallying cry in the 2018 GOP primary mid-terms to push MAGA approved candidates.

Instead, Trump got hardly anything done despite having a technical majority AND we got Never Trumper cucks like Mitt Romney in the Senate in 2018. That's on top of losing the House. And THAT'S on top of him sitting on his ass doing fuck all to protect his people from Big Tech tyranny despite having direct access to tools (like the FBI, DOJ, and FCC) to help.

Whether he is inept or compromised (or both), I don't care anymore. Trump sucks and he has got to go.
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(05-07-2019 02:37 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  
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(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency.

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

His biggest mistake early on was working with the GOP establishment; followed by pushing out Bannon 8 months into his term and then entirely diverting to Javanka on many things. That's why his technical majority of two years amounted to hardly anything MAGA getting done except tax cuts for multi-national corporations.

If Trump was smart, he would have played hardball with the GOPe. If it blew up into an open conflict with the GOPe, he could have used that as a rallying cry in the 2018 GOP primary mid-terms to push MAGA approved candidates.

Instead, Trump got hardly anything done despite having a technical majority AND we got Never Trumper cucks like Mitt Romney in the Senate in 2018. That's on top of losing the House. And THAT'S on top of him sitting on his ass doing fuck all to protect his people from Big Tech tyranny despite having direct access to tools (like the FBI, DOJ, and FCC) to help.

Whether he is inept or compromised (or both), I don't care anymore. Trump sucks and he has got to go.

Once again I've said this MANY times, a lot of those groups are actively working against Trump AND the legistlative branch not the executive branch that needs to push Twitter's shit in by demanding they stop being a gay "private company" and pick either a publisher or a platform. Either way we win. As a platform we can't be censored period and as a publisher, yeah you can be censored but that will make people (and therefore revenue) plummet among other things.
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(05-07-2019 01:58 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 01:34 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  Can the (((press))) spin that to justify the war? Possibly.

Hey on an unrelated note...

I think you should drop the ((( ))) thing. It's gotten kind of silly. Yes yes, we all know that ((( ))) is a secret code word for "jewish".

But now we all know the secret code, so it's not that cool any more.

I think if you just say "jewish press" or "jewish-dominated press" that will be just as good.

Thanks!

((())) = 6 characters
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(05-07-2019 02:37 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 12:10 PM)PantyPeeler Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 11:16 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 11:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'm beginning to think it's rather important that Trump loses.

It's very important that Trump feels the full impact of his betrayal.

Trump is not the movement, merely the figurehead. The sooner a Yellow Vest like movement descend on Washington the better.

Trump's presidency is extremely dangerous. He has accomplished nothing but talks tough and much of his base is asleep behind the wheel and thinks things are getting better. Things are getting drastically worse and the people impacted the most have no idea because the guy in the White House says what they want to hear.
Trump loses those asleep behind the wheel get the stark wake up that their country, or at least the country they believe exists, no longer exists.

I'm not saying a Democrat would be good for any of us, not at all, but it wouldn't be much different and millions would wake up from their slumber.

Trumps biggest mistake was trying to work with Dems early on in his Presidency.

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

His biggest mistake early on was working with the GOP establishment; followed by pushing out Bannon 8 months into his term and then entirely diverting to Javanka on many things. That's why his technical majority of two years amounted to hardly anything MAGA getting done except tax cuts for multi-national corporations.

If Trump was smart, he would have played hardball with the GOPe. If it blew up into an open conflict with the GOPe, he could have used that as a rallying cry in the 2018 GOP primary mid-terms to push MAGA approved candidates.

Instead, Trump got hardly anything done despite having a technical majority AND we got Never Trumper cucks like Mitt Romney in the Senate in 2018. That's on top of losing the House. And THAT'S on top of him sitting on his ass doing fuck all to protect his people from Big Tech tyranny despite having direct access to tools (like the FBI, DOJ, and FCC) to help.

Whether he is inept or compromised (or both), I don't care anymore. Trump sucks and he has got to go.

I agree that Trump miscalculated in working with the GOPe and sided with Jared Kushner and his daughter instead of Steve Bannon. Trump should have been more aggressive in pushing his agenda and even if he could get some, the GOPe denying him his other agenda items would have redpilled people alot faster. However, remember that Steve Bannon himself is no saint, especially that he too also has a strong relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu. So when Trump worked with Javanka, he chose them only because he knew them more than Steve Bannon and blood > water!

However, there is noone out there better than Trump who satisfies our interests, so Trump stays for the time being.
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In related news, Trump's SEC has signed off on a plan to allow MasterCard to deny you access to the financial system if you're "anti-islam".

Quote:Over several months, SumOfUs has been locked in a battle with Mastercard executives behind the scenes in order to get the new committee proposal put to the shareholders ahead of the company’s June annual general meeting.

It would see the formation of a “human rights committee” at the board level, which would monitor financial transactions with designated hate groups.

Documents seen by BuzzFeed News reveal that the US Securities and Exchange Commission has given the green light for shareholders to get the chance to vote on the formation of the committee, despite staunch opposition from the Mastercard board and executives.

In the material to be sent to shareholders, the activists refer to a website called Blood Money, which tracks online payments to white supremacist groups from the likes of Mastercard, American Express, and Stripe. The website currently claims that Mastercard services are being used by groups like Counter-Currents Publishing, Covenant People’s Ministry, the United West, Sultan Knish, and the Fitzgerald Griffin Foundation.

Trump's folks signed off on this, so when you lose access to your bank account in a few years, know that Donald Trump says it's okay because you're "far right".
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Delete, weird double post.
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(05-07-2019 08:02 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Trump's folks signed off on this,

Ok I read the article but I don't see the part where they say that.

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Excellent, heartfelt video by Ramzpaul on his recent visit to small-town America. He doesn't specifically mention the city but talks about how much of a mess it is now compared to about 40-50 years ago. Huge spike in Latino immigration, people working 2 jobs just to get by, unable to afford insurance, and he even mentions the women getting obese and just looking like they've given up.

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(05-07-2019 11:09 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 08:02 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Trump's folks signed off on this,

Ok I read the article but I don't see the part where they say that.

It's the part I bolded above.
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Buzzfeed News, oddly enough, has a fairly good track record on this sort of thing, and this sort of oddball, obscure claim is not the sort of thing that they'd lie about.
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For those that don't know, Roosh was just banned from Instagram AND Chase WePay.



(05-07-2019 04:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Today I got banned from Instagram (after uploading a video promoting the tour) and then I got banned from Chase WePay, which is my payment processor for tour tickets. They happened within 19 minutes of each other.



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I have switched to another processor in the meantime, but I'm not optimistic at this point.


It's time for social media and other monopolistic digital platforms to be considered a civil right. Good video below that goes into some of the details and explains why this is the best and most effective angle of attack and better than alternatives like the whole "platform vs publisher" argument.



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"Only a retard would believe Buzzfeed News when they said Trump's SEC had signed off on cutting payment access to people accused of wrongthink!"

Not five minutes later...

(05-07-2019 04:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Today I got banned from Instagram (after uploading a video promoting the tour) and then I got banned from Chase WePay, which is my payment processor for tour tickets. They happened within 19 minutes of each other.

I believe I am owed an apology.
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(05-07-2019 11:27 AM)rpg Wrote:  Dont lose it yet. 4 more years of Trump and many old lib geezers will be dead. Also I believe some alt right figures have great lawsuits. Gavin and Loomer should win millions.
A few decisive victories and the libs will settle down.

Gavin and Loomer are opposition they can live with. They are at the borders of acceptable "right-speak".

The issue is that they intend to cut off anyone to the right of Laura Loomer - Roosh, E Michael Jones, anyone pro White etc.

When your most "far-right" figure is Shapiro or Jordan Peterson, then you are already living in 1984.
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(05-07-2019 05:30 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  However, there is noone out there better than Trump who satisfies our interests, so Trump stays for the time being.

I rather be openly losing than having the facade of winning. At least that way, people couldn't live in denial anymore.

Openly losing at least has the hope of pushing upwards a candidate or movement that is even more hardline (or actually) MAGA. The current GOP is a joke and has no spine. Trump could have used the MAGA movement to bring in new blood and purge the GOPe ranks. But he fucked up and promoted Javanka's and played nice with faggots like Paul Ryan. He hired people like Bolton. He fired people like Bannon (not perfect but way better than the rest of the GOPe). A giant waste of an opportunity across the board to install real outsiders and MAGA types throughout the government.

I suppose you could make the argument that by delaying until 2024, that would give more time under better conditions for a new movement to rise up.

On the other hand, there are so many simpletons and retards out there that I feel like they may need 4 years of openly getting smashed in the face without Trump to maybe, JUST MAYBE, wake the fuck up. WE get it....but too many people simply do not get it. And after all that, enough people might STILL not get it and hence why I entertain voting for a guy like Yang who at least wants to:

1. Regulate social media like a public utility.

2. Switch to proportional electoral voting. That will keep the GOP in the game for much longer vs the current winner take all system. The current demographic trends basically make it impossible for the GOP to stay alive in the current winner take all system for much longer.

3. Give every citizen $100 "democracy dollars" so they can provide grassroots funding to candidates. Want to run for office and get 10,000 people to support you? That's 1 million in campaign funds which in turn, is a very solid start and allows one to quit their job temporarily to run while also having enough of a war chest for a small staff/advertising/office/etc.

Ask yourself: Why isn't Trump and the GOP ALREADY doing this stuff? Why wasn't this done with their two years of full control?

All of the aforementioned three items are critical things for the GOP if they want even a chance in hell to survive long-term and it's a goddamn democrat advocating for what's in their best interest.
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Clown world is truly hilarious.

Even you guys with so-called "fuck you" money are screwed.

What are you going to do when your banks designate you an unwanted customer because you're part of this hate-group and they cut you a cheque for your accounts that no other bank in the world is intetested in cashing.

No way out but through. Chances are now zero that this gets solved without one side paying the ultimate price for failure to secure their future by any means necessary.

Society is going cashless and your business is neither wanted nor required.

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< Fuck you money and globohomo-upper-elite awareness absolutely works out.

That way you avoid the biggest pitfalls. As for a designated hate-group. Richard Spencer got multiple bank accounts closed as well as other even the most benign White Identitarian groups, but that is due to them fighting back. That in itself is a part of awareness of how deep the rot goes.

A sane wealthy Red Pill globalist-aware man can at best support those who fight back with relatively anonymous donations. Heading up such a group is at this stage an extremely uphill battle with potentially disastrous consequences. My guess is that an open White identitarian billionaire would get even executed, they wouldn't just stop at shutting down your accounts. With that kind of money at your disposal it would not even be enough to close your personal bank accounts, because there are other options of funneling the cash so long as we don't have a system up where everyone is chipped. For such an individual they would have to take more drastic measures. The millionaire Jared Taylor is at best a nuisance. The decabillionaire Jared Taylor would be a threat.
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(05-08-2019 03:23 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Fuck you money and globohomo-upper-elite awareness absolutely works out.

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Sure, OK.

Last century the (((Bolsheviks))) slaughtered and starved to death 30 million of their class enemies but I'm sure if you limit yourself to shitposting about them then they'll let you skate once the gloves come off.

Everyone here is on the list. People who've navigated to this forum by accident are on the list.

If you want to laugh at that then enjoy your obliviousness while it lasts. In 100 years people will be talking about you the same way they talk about the kulaks now.

"Why didn't they fight back instead of just being genocided?"

"Probably most of them figured that at some point the (((Bolsheviks))) would draw a line short of them starving to death, men, women and children alike."

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I think at this point our only hope is that the top Democrats get drunk on power and start banning/deplatforming their own supporters.

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RE: The Donald Trump thread

The article in question:
Decade in the Red: Trump Tax Figures Show Over $1 Billion in Business Losses

Quote:Newly obtained tax information reveals that from 1985 to 1994, Donald J. Trump’s businesses were in far bleaker condition than was previously known.



Now let's see if the perpetrator will be caught just as quickly as Reality Winner.

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RE: The Donald Trump thread
Nothing new.
Silicon valley thinks they never need to turn a profit. That is liberal logic in all its glory. Lose lose lose and then sell to some dumb corporation.
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RE: The Donald Trump thread
The MasterCard situation is legitimate and been in the news before buzzfeed. It is by far the most concerning news/political event for me, even more than the prospect of going to war again. If they go through with it the entire western world will be going down a very dark path. None of us will be safe. In a decade or two the definition of "hate group" and "right-wing" will be so expansive you will be fucked if you merely bought a hat from Trump's store or ever posted on here. Both of which I have done.

It's pretty clear targeting people's finances is the method they'll be going with. Look at New Zealand, they politely asked for all the firearms and anyone who doesn't turn it in quickly enough will start being fined. It's such an easy way to crush all wrongthink and nationalism. Just fine them into oblivion, take away all financial services, and ultimately make it illegal to hire them. And with the internet making a list of all these people will be laughably easy.

I think very soon it will be financially untenable to be right wing or nationalist or opposed to any kind of mainstream thoughts or agendas. If the shareholders go for it and make that committee I'll probably stop posting about politics online and visiting any sort of problematic web pages and hope when my credit card and bank comb through my history one day, that they somehow miss all this stuff.

This is a very real threat to all of us, and a bigger deal than debating whether or not Trump is doing well or not. It will be irrelevant if this starts becoming the new normal. And if Trump can't stop this then he wasn't that great after all. If you think I'm being dramatic just look at Roosh, the creator of the forum, he certainly is living it. And it's only a matter of time before they move on from the public figures.
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