Post: #89051

(01-25-2019 11:59 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

I am sure that Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulous, Jeromi Corsi, Roger Stone, and every other known Trump associate who wasn't charged and has had to cough up attorney's fees, are very reassured by that tweet - and the five hundred similar that came before it.

At this point the damage is done. Trump is radioactive. We can only hope that he gets revenge when William Barr gets sworn in.

Post: #89052

Whole thing is obviously a setup. Whoever leaked or tipped off the info to CNN comes from someone within the FBI.

Edit.

Post: #89053

I feel like this whole Roger Stone thing is a ploy to make another movie. It'll be like "Letters to Iwo Jima" and "Flags of our Fathers".

"Get me Roger Stone" (good guys, Trump version)

and

"Get me Roger Stone!" (FBI version)

...I tried

Post: #89054

(01-25-2019 12:13 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 06:27 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  Breaking news Just now Donald Trump aide Roger Stone arrested smh...: the whole damn squad is going to jail, you just make this shit up. Does no one else think maybe there’s a problem when soooo many people in Trumps inner circle are catching cases mostly for lying about Russia??....

Actual intelligent people understand this is not how things work (it's something you believe when you're biased). There is no such thing as guilt by association being a crime (at least not in America) and all of that nonsense (which has zero to do with Trump) has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Roger Stone was raided on "process charges?" Ridiculous. Which is why the judge set the bail so low and why Roger is already back on the streets.

Trumped up charges and kabuki theatre - aka a WITCH HUNT

There is a thing as being guilty by association and it’s been perfected right here in Murica it’s called conspiracy and that’s what the FEDS are going after by over charging so many Trump associates (squeeze them all until someone spills the beans). You can take potshots and insult my intelligence all day long but even a blind man can see exactly what the Feds are doing here. You’re right I do I have a bias I genuinely dislike like politicians and both shitty parties we have to choose from far right far left they all turn my stomach. The only difference is the lie theyre telling you on any particular day.

Post: #89055

(01-25-2019 12:22 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  I feel like this whole Roger Stone thing is a ploy to make another movie. It'll be like "Letters to Iwo Jima" and "Flags of our Fathers".

"Get me Roger Stone" (good guys, Trump version)

and

"Get me Roger Stone!" (FBI version)

...I tried

Unfortunately that isn't how it works. If we get a film about any of this, it will be made by Michael Moore and be about how brave the CNN reporters and Roger Mueller are.

Post: #89056

(01-25-2019 12:59 PM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  There is a thing as being guilty by association and it’s been perfected right here in Murica it’s called conspiracy and that’s what the FEDS are going after by over charging so many Trump associates (squeeze them all until someone spills the beans). You can take potshots and insult my intelligence all day long but even a blind man can see exactly what the Feds are doing here. You’re right I do I have a bias I genuinely dislike like politicians and both shitty parties we have to choose from far right far left they all turn my stomach. The only difference is the lie theyre telling you on any particular day.

Yeah that's not how any of this works.

Post: #89057

(01-25-2019 01:17 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 12:22 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  I feel like this whole Roger Stone thing is a ploy to make another movie. It'll be like "Letters to Iwo Jima" and "Flags of our Fathers".

"Get me Roger Stone" (good guys, Trump version)

and

"Get me Roger Stone!" (FBI version)

...I tried

Unfortunately that isn't how it works. If we get a film about any of this, it will be made by Michael Moore and be about how brave the CNN reporters and Roger Mueller are.

ohhh. So "Get REE Roger Stone", I guess.

Post: #89058

(01-25-2019 01:19 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 12:59 PM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  There is a thing as being guilty by association and it’s been perfected right here in Murica it’s called conspiracy and that’s what the FEDS are going after by over charging so many Trump associates (squeeze them all until someone spills the beans). You can take potshots and insult my intelligence all day long but even a blind man can see exactly what the Feds are doing here. You’re right I do I have a bias I genuinely dislike like politicians and both shitty parties we have to choose from far right far left they all turn my stomach. The only difference is the lie theyre telling you on any particular day.

Yeah that's not how any of this works.

Yea That’s exactly how it works when the FEDS want someone they go after any and everyone around that person anyway they can and they don’t just make threats they overcharge, harass in attempts to apply pressure on their target and the people around until they get what they want. Is that not exactly what’s happening here???

Post: #89059

Drudge headline. Trump better not fuck this up.

Quote:SOURCE: SHUTDOWN AGREEMENT REACHED
ANNOUNCEMENT SET FOR 1:30 PM
GOVT TO REOPEN 'TEMPORARILY'
NO WALL FUNDS
**TRUMP LIVE**

Post: #89060

(01-25-2019 12:13 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 06:27 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  Breaking news Just now Donald Trump aide Roger Stone arrested smh...: the whole damn squad is going to jail, you just make this shit up. Does no one else think maybe there’s a problem when soooo many people in Trumps inner circle are catching cases mostly for lying about Russia??....

Actual intelligent people understand this is not how things work (it's something you believe when you're biased). There is no such thing as guilt by association being a crime (at least not in America) and all of that nonsense (which has zero to do with Trump) has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Roger Stone was raided on "process charges?" Ridiculous. Which is why the judge set the bail so low and why Roger is already back on the streets.

Trumped up charges and kabuki theatre - aka a WITCH HUNT

Donald Trump isn't going to jail, now or ever. Any attempt to prosecute him will trigger retaliation on a massive scale, culminating, if necessary, in civil war.

Post: #89061

(01-25-2019 01:44 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 12:13 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

[quote='ElJefe1' pid='1928416' dateline='1548415637']
Breaking news Just now Donald Trump aide Roger Stone arrested smh...: the whole damn squad is going to jail, you just make this shit up. Does no one else think maybe there’s a problem when soooo many people in Trumps inner circle are catching cases mostly for lying about Russia??....

Actual intelligent people understand this is not how things work (it's something you believe when you're biased). There is no such thing as guilt by association being a crime (at least not in America) and all of that nonsense (which has zero to do with Trump) has nothing to do with Russian collusion. Roger Stone was raided on "process charges?" Ridiculous. Which is why the judge set the bail so low and why Roger is already back on the streets.

Trumped up charges and kabuki theatre - aka a WITCH HUNT

Donald Trump isn't going to jail, now or ever. Any attempt to prosecute him will trigger retaliation on a massive scale, culminating, if necessary, in civil war.
[/quote


Definitely he’s not going to jail but he’s a politician nothing gets the FBI off more than going after politicians.

Post: #89062

"...determined reporting and interpreting clues revealed in the course of events. That’s called journalism."


Funny how CNN put out a tweet about their "determined reporting" on the Roger Stone raid, but the Covington Catholic coverage blew up in their faces due to poor journalism (i.e., Nathan Philips isn't a Vietnam Vet). What a shitshow.

Post: #89063

Looks like Trump caved on the shutdown, right after he caved on the SOTU. Is this *his* decision, or someone advising him? Did he just lose 2020?

Post: #89064

They are going after votes and trying to win the public court opinion. They don’t have SHIT on Trump. Russians would only leave a paper trail if they wanted. Maybe they just left enough crumbs to start this shitshow.

Post: #89065

Caving on the shutdown to re-open for 21 days.
Not impressed.
He truly feels they can work out a deal he approves.
Must be bird-boxed to the fact Democrats are shit.

Post: #89066

Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

Post: #89067

(01-25-2019 02:35 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

Yup. Bad day for MAGA.

I think this is the end, barring some huge turnaround. But it needs to happen soon.

Prepare yourselves for the coming wars.

Post: #89068

I smell a rat actually.
Government is only funded until Feb 15th.

So...he opens the government to give the State of the Union address then shuts it down again?
What is it that he really wants to get out in front of Congress at the SOTU?

And this statement: "If we do not get a fair deal from congress the government will shutdown AGAIN on February 14th"

Something is up.

Post: #89069

He folds?????

Whatever backroom handshake deals that you thought you had with Democrats go away as soon as they get what they want.

If the wall doesn't get done this year, then it doesn't get done election year, Trump loses his base, and the Ben Shapiro leaders of the GOP say after Trump loses "wall is bad politics, please accept infinity immigrants from wherever and please work hard so we can fund their benefits."

This was a good hill to die on. Too bad he didn't do this against that Traitor Paul Ryan.

Post: #89070

Why wait three weeks to declare a national emergency? Is there anything that indicates that the Dems will all of a sudden cave, and agree to fund the wall? (No!) The last thing we need now is more drama, like this Stone thing.

Are these things a deliberate distraction to make us forget about the real policy changes we`re not getting? I`m not falling for the drama narratives anymore, it`s like a sitcom now. (And real men don`t watch sitcoms.)

Post: #89071

(01-25-2019 02:37 PM)redonion Wrote:  

(01-25-2019 02:35 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

Yup. Bad day for MAGA.

I think this is the end, barring some huge turnaround. But it needs to happen soon.

Prepare yourselves for the coming wars.

Post: #89072

(01-25-2019 02:35 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump caved. He's kicking the can down the road for three weeks in foolish hopes that Democrats will give him the money but now they'll be emboldened. They won't give him a cent. And this happened just when some Democrats were beginning to break.

"Read my lips, no new taxes." Anyone remember that?

Dude could've done this two years ago with a Republican-controlled Congress. But he listened to that rat Paul Ryan who said to hold off as it would be bad for the base.

This is Trump's Alamo. Either he stands here and fights it out until either being impeached or building the wall, or he becomes a lame duck two years before leaving office.

Post: #89073

He needs to declare a national emergency after three weeks and use military funds to build it. End of story.

Some hack judge shopped court will issue an injunction but at least the effort will have been made. And it will eventually be overturned because the law is clear.

This was a shitty, shitty move.

Post: #89074

(01-25-2019 03:06 PM)Libertas Wrote:  He needs to declare a national emergency after three weeks and use military funds to build it. End of story.

Some hack judge shopped court will issue an injunction but at least the effort will have been made. And it will eventually be overturned because the law is clear.

This was a shitty, shitty move.

If the plan was to stall then I guess it was a good move. I`m not sure anymore. Probably we will see more stalling after three weeks have passed.

Post: #89075

Lets say he did get the wall, won't it still be delayed because of people suing the feds for stealing private land? and the next president will defund it anyway half way through because it'll take so much time to physically build the damn thing.