Post: #83026

(09-21-2018 01:37 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Hypno where do you get this stuff from? Are you from America or somewhere else?

He should not tell anyone anything. Trump has no power over the committee. The president appoints, the Senate confirms with a vote after it gets out of committee. That is how it works. Trump cannot demand anything. He is just egging on the Democrats and deriding the process, but he knows how it works. He isn't stupid.

Have you heard of the Trump Tax Cuts? Are you aware that Trump can't introduce legislation because he is not a Congressman?

Trump has power because Trump is the head of the party. If he wants them to hold the hearing on a Sunday at 9pm, they'll do what he says or won't get any party money or Presidential appearances at fundraisers.

As for Trump telling her what to do, you have a point that it looks bad for him to get involved. It will look worse if the committee kowtows to her demands, or if she doesn't show up because they didn't promise to treat her properly. She flipped the script on the committee, and Trump needs to tell the committee to regain the upper hand. They only way they do that is by subpoenaing her to testify. If she doesn't show up, she is in contempt of Congress and Trump has his out.

Without a subpoena, its 50/50 whether she shows up. She knows her story is crap so is very reluctant to show up. Her corroborating witness already folded. And she has nothing to gain by showing up because she and Feinstein got a full airing of her allegations already. The damage to Kavanaugh is done. Showing up will only act to reverse that damage.

Post: #83027

Rosenstein will finally get the ax. My guess is that this was the price for keeping the FISA documents sealed.

Post: #83028

Michael Moore On Donald Trump's Relationship With Ivanka





Michael Moore is saying Trump banged his daughter. This fat slob is going nuts...

Post: #83029

(09-21-2018 03:46 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  budoslavic, so in a word, conservative women are better looking on average, and leftist women are driven a lot by jealousy. Sounds about right.

JMK, you pretty much got it right.


Let's not forget that Liberal women have a man-hating agenda and an inability to let the 2016 Elections loss go.

Edit.

Post: #83030

(09-21-2018 05:15 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 01:37 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Hypno where do you get this stuff from? Are you from America or somewhere else?

He should not tell anyone anything. Trump has no power over the committee. The president appoints, the Senate confirms with a vote after it gets out of committee. That is how it works. Trump cannot demand anything. He is just egging on the Democrats and deriding the process, but he knows how it works. He isn't stupid.

Have you heard of the Trump Tax Cuts? Are you aware that Trump can't introduce legislation because he is not a Congressman?

Trump has power because Trump is the head of the party. If he wants them to hold the hearing on a Sunday at 9pm, they'll do what he says or won't get any party money or Presidential appearances at fundraisers.

As for Trump telling her what to do, you have a point that it looks bad for him to get involved. It will look worse if the committee kowtows to her demands, or if she doesn't show up because they didn't promise to treat her properly. She flipped the script on the committee, and Trump needs to tell the committee to regain the upper hand. They only way they do that is by subpoenaing her to testify. If she doesn't show up, she is in contempt of Congress and Trump has his out.

Without a subpoena, its 50/50 whether she shows up. She knows her story is crap so is very reluctant to show up. Her corroborating witness already folded. And she has nothing to gain by showing up because she and Feinstein got a full airing of her allegations already. The damage to Kavanaugh is done. Showing up will only act to reverse that damage.

Actually anyone can submit a bill to congress..... you, me, probably an illegal alien.. A congressman has to formally introduce it for you. It does not have to have your name on it, but many times it ends up having the name of someone who started or introduced it.

Yes he is the head of the party. He still cannot demand congress do anything though and expect them to hop up and do it right away. The truth is that he needs them just as much as they need him.

Even if they bend over backwards to her demands, she is still going to look ridiculous, because the entire accusation is ridiculous. They do not need to subpoena her because it does not make or break the nomination. The invitation is for her to explain her accusation and for Brett to have a response to it, since there is no jurisdiction or legal criminal followup that can be had. If the Maryland police want to investigate (and I doubt they want to investigate a 36 year old case of grab ass), they can, but they likely won't unless she files a formal complaint making them do so. She has had every opportunity to do this, but insists on the FBI doing it, because she and other Dems know/feel the FBI is full of Deepstate people AND most importantly spend weeks or months on a case. The Maryland police might spend a week on it or their DA decline outright. Problem is rape/sex assualt is a state/county matter not federal.

The damage done is that liberals think our FBI is politically motivated/biased and can be used against conservative people.

The damage done is that America and American women look ridiculous, out of control, and full of hatred for men.

The damage done is not that women have completely hijacked our political system. They did that decades ago. The damage done is that men in America are still not aware of the dangers of feminism.

The damage done is that now no man is safe. This shit isn't for just the field negro or joe blow black man from the 60s or earlier. This is no longer for Emmitt Till. White men on par with church pastors as far as clean backgrounds are concerned, can be called a rapist just for not being openly for feminist agenda.

Wasn't it a few years ago, I forgot who did the thread (Tuth, Roosh, DOBA, 2wyked?) feminists somewhere proclaimed that all men are rapists. Another occasion feminists were calling the mere looking at a woman, bad game, and catcalling was rape. Plenty of people here saw this issue coming from a 1000 miles away. All this shit was predictable. Everyone thought game was going to fix everything. I dunno about that, it saves lives, but what if it gets much worse than this?

A rape accusation always ruined a man's life. Even before the internet! This shit is not some new shit!! Maybe back then you could at least go live in another state, but back then if all your family lived there, starting over was extremely painful and hard to do. All the internet did was speed it up and make it possible for anyone to find instead of everyone in your local community knowing about it. Global is the new local.

All of this is a good thing. I feel bad for Brett, but some good men needed to take one for the team so that we all can get real change and force these wicked women to become accountable for their actions. All those women he spent decades helping might help save his ass in the end, but he and every other American man needed to see just how weaponized deranged pussyhat wearing feminists have become. We still have guys here fucking feminists, knowing much better than the average man. They will get popped too someday.

Post: #83031

“All of this is a good thing. I feel bad for Brett, but some good men needed to take one for the team so that we all can get real change and force these wicked women to become accountable for their actions.”

I do t get how any of this brings about real change and how this is a good thing? Women aren’t suddenly going to be accountable

Post: #83032

We'll see if Imran Khan is right about the misandry bubble ... I think he's got less than a year and a half on that original prediction, though.

Post: #83033

(09-21-2018 06:04 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  The damage done is that now no man is safe. This shit isn't for just the field negro or joe blow black man from the 60s or earlier. This is no longer for Emmitt Till. White men on par with church pastors as far as clean backgrounds are concerned, can be called a rapist just for not being openly for feminist agenda.

Ironically it came out last year that the woman who accused Till and sparked the outrage that got him lynched, well she admitted that she lied about it - Woman Linked to 1955 Emmett Till Murder Tells Historian Her Claims Were False:

Quote:For six decades, she has been the silent woman linked to one of the most notorious crimes in the nation’s history, the lynching of Emmett Till, a 14-year-old black boy, keeping her thoughts and memories to herself as millions of strangers idealized or vilified her.

But all these years later, a historian says that the woman has broken her silence, and acknowledged that the most incendiary parts of the story she and others told about Emmett — claims that seem tame today but were more than enough to get a black person killed in Jim Crow-era Mississippi — were false.
...
she said of her long-ago allegations that Emmett grabbed her and was menacing and sexually crude toward her, “that part is not true.”

Post: #83034

In 2018, it doesn't matter if you're innocent or guilty as a man when charged with rape in the public sphere. You are assumed guilty until the feminist brigade their soyboi lackeys proclaim you innocent (and it will never happen!). Facts are secondary to feelings when you don't care about justice, but rather RHEEEESISTTTTTing! I'm still amazed that a lot of guys on this board spend any amount of time alone, let alone sleep with, leftist chicks. You are one bad hormonal day away from being charged with rape. Leftist chicks are universally batshit insane. I value my freedom too much to associate with them, much less get them into bed.

Post: #83035

Hannity is now saying Trump should not fire Rosenstein. He said it’s a Deep State trap.

He’s also saying the Deep State players are turning on each other.

Interesting times.

Post: #83036

Ford's lawyer isn't happy with Senator Grassley's counterproposal. Go cry me a fucking river...

Post: #83037

Collins thinks this is her fulcrum. God help us.

(09-21-2018 08:50 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Ford's lawyer isn't happy with Senator Grassley's counterproposal. Go cry me a fucking river...

Post: #83038

I don't know what to make of the Rosenstein story, could be a few different angles on this.

1. This all came from memos written by Andy 'Tampered 302s' McCabe. False/Misleading accounts of meetings and interviews seems to be his thing.

2. This is all happening after Trump ordered McCabe's memos and texts, among other things, to be declassified. It could be that McCabe Or Rosenstein himself is just trying to jump the gun and get out in front of the bombshells.

3. It could be that Rosenstein has flipped and is trying to save his ass by helping Trump. The NYT/McCabe is taking a shot at Rosenstein and hoping Trump fires him so he triggers a shitstorm leading to impeachment.

Both Rosenstein and McCabe have been fucked big style for a long time. What I think happened was that after Comey was fired, McCabe started shitting his pants because it was the clearest sign yet that the walls were closing in on him. So he runs to Rosenstein begging for help. They have a heated argument which is where the "what do you want me to do, wear a wire?" comment comes from. I suspect it wasn't a joke but being sarcastic about essentially going all in on a 6 high bluff.

According to the NYT, the meetings took place on May 16. Lisa Page was one of the people in that meeting, which is interesting because as people on Twitter have pointed out we have her texts with Stzrok from this time:



From what we can see, the money quotes are Strzok asking if Rod was going with Andy. Suggests that McCabe was maybe pressuring Rosenstein into triggering the Mueller investigation. They need this to get rid of Trump to save their ass. The other texts about "this" only helping him and not hurting him, Rosenstein either being a dead man or hero, saving his soul and so forth make sense in that context. Whatever is in the redactions should fill this out.

Fast forward to this week and Trump orders everything declassified. Now shit is getting way too real and everyone starts scrambling. The usual suspects first start with the standard argument about sources and methods and national security BS. Then Trump tweets that he met with the DOJ (aka Rosenstein) and suggests that he was told that doing itself might look bad politically.

So, instead he is telling the IG to hurry the fuck up and release it as part of the report. He says speed is important (aka before the midterms), and if worse comes to worse he can release it all himself anyway.

NOW all of a sudden this McCabe/Rosenstein shit comes out? I think Rosenstein either flipped, isn't obstructing enough, or is just the first guy to be backstabbed as McCabe tries to bring everyone down with him. The left is mad at the NYT for publishing this because it gives Trump cover to fire Rosenstein, thereby getting rid of Mueller. But Trump firing Rosenstein only benefits his enemies, so he shouldn't do it. Chaotic nonetheless.

Trump is in a great spot, he just needs to sit tight. Wait for the IG to dump everything in a few weeks, if not dump it himself in mid October. I'm glad there might be a delay here, it's too soon now.

Post: #83039

(09-21-2018 06:03 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  What skeletons does Krugman have in his closet?

Child-sized ones.

Post: #83040

If that's true...

Post: #83041

(09-21-2018 05:41 PM)Chiosboy90 Wrote:  Michael Moore On Donald Trump's Relationship With Ivanka





Michael Moore is saying Trump banged his daughter. This fat slob is going nuts...

This is clearly hate speech. I expect any minute PayPal will cancel his account. Right?

Post: #83042

(09-21-2018 08:50 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Ford's lawyer isn't happy with Senator Grassley's counterproposal. Go cry me a fucking river...

I have seen some political self-immolation in the past year but nothing that matches this.

Post: #83043

(09-21-2018 11:07 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 08:50 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Ford's lawyer isn't happy with Senator Grassley's counterproposal. Go cry me a fucking river...

I have seen some political self-immolation in the past year but nothing that matches this.

This shit happened 35 years ago and she isn't ready to talk about it? I hope history will show this as a turning point in the #(fuck)metoo movement.

Post: #83044

(09-21-2018 11:12 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 08:50 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Ford's lawyer isn't happy with Senator Grassley's counterproposal. Go cry me a fucking river...

This shit happened 35 years ago and she isn't ready to talk about it? I hope history will show this as a turning point in the #(fuck)metoo movement.

It's not quite that she isn't ready, it is that the date proposed, Wednesday, is not "feasible" for her.

Meaning, on Wednesday, she has a yoga class, or needs to bring her cat to the veterinary, or has a yard sale planned. So a meeting is not feasible.

Also, it is well-known that university teachers work so much , that they don't have free time... after all, they have like, 8 hours of class per week, maybe even nine! They're overworked, clearly, so it's not feasible for them to give a few hours of their precious time to the Senate.

Matter of fact, French people have a famous joke about unimportant people who pretend not to be available "because they are busy": we say, "Oh, you have swimming pool" (tu as piscine). The joke being, it's the excuse children give so as not to go somewhere: Oh it's not feasible, I need to go to the swimming pool at this time and date.

So I guess the Christine self-confessed drunkard woman has swimming pool time planned for Wednesday; and clearly it's more important than going to the Senate.

Talking about the French, quite funny to see that the (lyin) Christine woman has a (lyin) lawyer called... DSK!!


a DSK advising Christine Ford!

Post: #83045

What a surprise that someone named (((Rod Rosenstein))) would backstab him.

Post: #83046

(09-21-2018 09:37 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 06:03 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  What skeletons does Krugman have in his closet?

Child-sized ones.

Spielberg-face.

Post: #83047

For the first time in a while, I'm disgusted with Trump for caving into the DOJ and delaying the release of the stupid Russia files. Tell them to fuck off and get this over with.

That article is also trying to bait Trump into firing Rosenstein right now, you unfortunately can't do that precisely because of this nonsense which is why the files need to be released.

Republicans need to secure more comfortable majorities in congress before Rosenstein can go safely.

Post: #83048

I just thought of something. This Kavenaugh false rape debacle, in regards to giving into these outrageous female demands. Is the same influence women extored, during the temperance movement. Which reigned in Prohibition and all of the interesting times that came along with that bit, in American history.

Post: #83049

(09-22-2018 09:58 AM)BlackFriar Wrote:  I just thought of something. This Kavenaugh false rape debacle, in regards to giving into these outrageous female demands. Is the same influence women extored, during the temperance movement. Which reigned in Prohibition and all of the interesting times that came along with that bit, in American history.

Women have traditionally lacked Hard Power, the means to directly affect outcomes in society (through voting, legislating, etc.). What they have always had is Soft Power (social shaming, pleasantly asking their menfolk to change things, or barring that, nagging them). Now women are exerting Hard and Soft Powers with their full might, and many cowardly men are giving in to even the most blatantly false of accusations because they fear being "anti-woman", even if it means being genuinely anti-man in the case of Innocent Until Proven Guilty with these FRA's. Dare I say that too many women are overreaching, and we will see pushback at some point?

Post: #83050