Post: #66001

(06-19-2017 08:25 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^Seconded.

I can't read Adam's stuff without getting the sense that he's a narcissist or a sociopath or both.

Correct, maybe. Insightful, perhaps. But he's one of those guys I suspect has a special hidden room in his mansion where he tortures people.

Some of these guys. Adams. Molyneux. Smart, insightful analysis, good videos. Not gonna use the forbidden "c" word, but I wouldn't want either of them using my towels.

Post: #66002

Indeed. But only being steeped in a tradition can one see it for what it is. As Weininger said, Christ was the first Jew to be free of Judaism within himself. As a spiritual teacher I respect said, the point of waking up to reality is to see dogma for the trap it is, and our natural state is one containing and emanating all the higher virtues. The difference between following the commandments and living the commandments is the difference between slavish obedience to inhuman codes / hadiths from dead books, vs awakened action that is both personally beneficial and impersonally directed.

A Christ-like life can and does arrive naturally in this present day and age. You don't even need the Bible - just live the Golden Rule and feel the natural wonder and reverence for life. The same isn't true for artificial 'morality' constructed from books written by ancient power brokers to create slavish zealots forced to abdicate both heart and mind. If you did a mind wipe of all Chrisians, Muslims, and Jews, and burned all Bibles, Torahs, Talmuds, and Korans how would each behave? What principles would naturally guide them? Would their actions be generate or degenerate? Our love and respect for humanity (ourselves most of all) has to be conditioned out of us to create a subjugating religion. That is the essence of dogma and control. 'Judge them by their fruits!'


Perhaps a topic to pursue further in another thread?

Post: #66003

(06-16-2017 03:26 PM)Oz. Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 01:53 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Trump just told the Cubans to GTFO. No further investment until there are no political prisoners, free elections, and all that jazz. Wow! That schmuck Obama must be FUMING

#MUHLEGACY

Some of you really have no clue how Cuba works.

Right. This is why I make one liner passive aggressive comments on a subject that I am the complete expert of and all others ignore.

Post: #66004

(06-19-2017 11:31 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  Some of these guys. Adams. Molyneux. Smart, insightful analysis, good videos. Not gonna use the forbidden "c" word, but I wouldn't want either of them using my towels.

Adams I have no opinion about, as I really don't read his stuff on a regular basis. Molyneux is different: he's very good rhetorically, but I really question the substance behind what he says. He's made quite a few egregious historical errors over the years.

Post: #66005

You can criticize Scott Adams for not emotionally understanding basic human emotions and motivations (something many of us probably suffer from), but you can't intelligently predict that he tortures people. He's too happy and successful, and therefore lacks what Jordan Peterson calls "the rage against Being Itself" required to inflict revenge on people.

He (naively, in my opinion) assumes that everyone can become an American. But his assumption is based on a fundamental love for America and American values that most liberals do not have.

Post: #66006

Jordan Peterson just tweeted this Vanity Fair Article about Trump. The writer, Lili Anolik (pic here) is quite attractive. In her hitpiece on Trump, she admits that negging hot girls works. And that Trump basically negged the hot chick named America into bed:

Donald Trump’s Biggest Mistake Might Have Been Getting Elected:

Quote:Here’s what Make America Great Again is the equivalent of: a guy, a little long in the tooth, a little broad in the beam (Trump, let’s say), spots a sensational-looking girl, a girl who’s so far out of his league it’s a joke (America, let’s say). Instead of complimenting her on her loveliness, he informs her that she needs a nose job, a tit job, braces, and to lose 10 pounds. The girl is about to tell him off, really let him have it, except something stops her. It’s a thought, a devastating one, that maybe he’s right, that maybe it’s everybody else who’s shining her on and he’s actually leveling with her. And just like that, in a single moment, she’s his.

Post: #66007

(06-19-2017 02:52 PM)Lucky Wrote:  The writer, Lili Anolik (pic here) is quite attractive.

No. The Photoshopping on that picture is obvious. Vanity Fair knows it's audience is narcissistic Goyim women, so a little touch here and there to make the author look more like the bland Powerful White Woman on a night-time crime show that fantasize about being is necessary, which means dialing down certain telling features.









Yes, that's her with pornographer (((Al Goldstein))), in a profile for Slate (of course), where she calls him a close personal friend, and describes their monthly dinners. Crass talk about pussy, sexual domination of women, and dubious moral character didn't seem to concern her then. Once again, "Do as I say, not as I do."

Post: #66008

Post: #66009

(06-19-2017 02:27 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  You can criticize Scott Adams for not emotionally understanding basic human emotions and motivations (something many of us probably suffer from), but you can't intelligently predict that he tortures people. He's too happy and successful, and therefore lacks what Jordan Peterson calls "the rage against Being Itself" required to inflict revenge on people.

He (naively, in my opinion) assumes that everyone can become an American. But his assumption is based on a fundamental love for America and American values that most liberals do not have.

I'm pretty sure Leonard was being cheeky about the torture.

However, with regard to Scott's liberalism, this is one of his old blog posts that convinced me he's a liberal.

Quote:I love kids, but being around them for more than ten minutes feels like brain death.

Not only do I disagree with the above statement, but a person's attitude towards children is one of the poker tells I use to determine whether or not they are right-wing (i.e. K-selected) and let me tell you... when Scott Adams acts like a conservative, he's bluffing.

When he originally posted that article, he argued that all children should be placed in government-run daycare. He also added that his article was not satire. Some people noted in the Disqus comments (yours truly included) that this made Scott a communist. Some time thereafter, he altered his "proposal" to say this:

Quote:For the sake of comparison, imagine a system in which kids are raised by some sort of organized partnership of parents, teachers, and medical professionals. Parents can spend as much quality time as they want with their kids, but mostly for mentoring and social reasons. The jobs of discipline, healthcare, feeding, fitness, and education would be handled by the greater organization.

Originally, where the red text is... he wrote "the state". He changed it afterwards because he is a shifty little motherfucker.

Scott's assumption that the state can raise children better than parents is based on a fundamental faith in the wisdom and benevolence of government bureaucrats that most conservatives do not have.

Post: #66010

Well the Dems have Trump encircled in a small trap with this expanded team of lawyer Bob just hired. He needs to let his people talk for him and now would be a great time to stop tweeting about it and let his lawyers handle it all.

They probably think if they give him enough rope he can hang his own neck. Which is true. That is not news at all. Everyone knows his weakness in that regard. It's better not to make a full circus out of it at this rate. Let them find nothing, like they are supposed to. At worst, I think Flynn is the only one that will be in any trouble if there was any to be gotten in. I know Flynn was his man and helped put him there and had his back since the beginning, but somewhere along the way he made some missteps and left himself vulnerable to the scum and they pulled their blackmail file on him. Time to let it go and move on. Political casualties happen all the time. It's nothing personal.

I'm confident it will blow over. On the bright side, it's HUGE ammo to hurt the Dems with when it fizzles. They will have zero credibility left publically. They better hope the evidence they planted was not seen by someone. You know they did....

Post: #66011

Well, Trump isn't very serious about actually solving the Israel-Palestine conflict, because he just sent two ultra-Zionists to begin "peace talks". Peace talks is a Western euphemism for telling the Palestinians that nothing's gonna change and they better get used to it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t...SKBN19A084

Post: #66012

(06-19-2017 06:56 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(06-18-2017 07:44 PM)Dusty Wrote:  It's amazing how similar Stephens sounds to fellow NeoCohen Bill Kristol.

American Jews are probably the biggest ingrates you'll ever see. They were welcomed into a country that promised them safe haven from European and Arab anti-semitism, and they still turn on it and call for its native peoples to be removed. Don't buy into this "he was just joking" nonsense. Cosmopolitan elitist jews like Stephens (nice attempt at a WASP name by the way you fucking snake) truly despise middle America. Part of the reason why I'm embarrassed to be half-Jew.

That certainly applies to the founders of the Frankfurt School: Max Horkheimer, Herbert Marcuse, Theodor Adorno, Leo Lowenthal, Henryk Grossman, etc. They were all Jews, given refuge in the 1930's from Nazi Germany. They were allowed to teach at Colombia University in New York, etc.

Would you be thankful to a country if it saved your life? Most people would. But not those guys...they immediately got to work, attacking the traditions of America. Did it ever occur to them that without the United States, they'd be inside an oven at Dachau? Apparently not. Ingrate might be too kind of a word for them.

Post: #66013

(06-19-2017 06:34 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Well, Trump isn't very serious about actually solving the Israel-Palestine conflict, because he just sent two ultra-Zionists to begin "peace talks". Peace talks is a Western euphemism for telling the Palestinians that nothing's gonna change and they better get used to it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t...SKBN19A084

You know the more I see what Islam is capable of, the more use I see Israel being propped up as a buffer in the region a very good thing. The only problem with the relationship is that is feels like your bookie sometimes sends goons to whack your men , but he's the best bookie in town with the best numbers ever, so you just deal with him because of all the bread you make. If you control all the horse racing you need a team over that part too.

When I used to be liberal/progressive all I wanted to see was the US get off Israel's dick. Now it seems like with the ugly demographic situation and the Islam threat, threatening to set off another Crusades, 100% asymmetric style, they seem to have a very good use. If we play our cards correctly they can help us keep Saudi, Qatar, and others honest when it is deal making time. If Israel was not in that region or was completely Palestinian owned, the Saudis would tell us to fuck off on just about everything. Think about it.

Nobody saw it working out like this, but it's funny how a situation can change sometimes.

Post: #66014

If Israel was not in the region we would have levelled arabia into rubble a long time ago. The only reason we haven't is because of Israel.

Post: #66015

Used to hate Israel, then I got all neocon in early college and loved them, thinking they were a nation we needed to be more like.

Now, being alt-right...comfortably in the middle. They control our foreign policy way too much and are huge proponents of globalist BS as long as it doesn't affect them, which is infuriating. However, we need allies over there and I can't say anything positive about the Palestinians. Those criminal fuckers permanently ruined Lebanon and almost did it to Jordan, too.

I always laughed at how Jewish terrorism is what finally got the British to leave Mandatory Palestine, and absolutely nobody talks about it. If I remember right, Churchill called the Likud a bunch of gangsters.

EDIT: Maybe I meant the Haganah. All Hebrew words run together for me.

Post: #66016

(06-19-2017 08:15 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  

(06-18-2017 09:05 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Scott Adams' one liner, "The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will break the law, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will FOLLOW the law." (If we followed the law, society would get more competitive, and they would not survive.)

That's actually an interesting and poetic analysis by Scott Adams and it dances up to the truth before falling just short. Here's how he could have said it better:

The biggest fear conservatives have is that liberals will act immorally, but the biggest fear liberals have is that conservatives will act morally.

I will give Scott credit for his analysis and he is welcome to my adjustment without sharing credit. The reason Scott gets this wrong is that Scott himself is not a conservative, he's an opportunistic liberal LARPing as a conservative, He is engaging in "entryism" to take advantage of the rising trend of the Alt Right, and I commend him for his opportunism, but I see what he is doing. Scott doesn't want to use the concept of morality because he is not ready to identify liberals as immoral, because he is one. He hides behind his remark that liberals "break the law" because this is still likely to permit sympathy for liberals from conservatives who are waking up to the fact that liberal bureaucrats have literally ruined our countries while conservatives were out working real jobs and paying taxes. If all liberals did was "break the law" then we can be persuaded to think that the law was flawed. But if conservatives go so far as to determine that liberals are actually immoral agents of Satan who, for example, revel in the murder of unborn babies and turn a blind eye to horrible acts of child abuse such as #Pizzagate, well then "secret" liberals like Scott Adams are in deep shit because the wrath of God is headed their way.

The reason Scott gets this wrong is because he's not a conservative deep down. He's not a Christian. I've read older blog posts of his that have shown me he's a communist. He's an entryist with good analysis and rhetorical skills. I wouldn't put too much stock in his advice, however. He is no leader.

I think Adams got this wrong, one reason liberals have been so successful in the lasts 4-5 decades is because they play dirty while making sure the conservatives play by the rules.

Like they say, morals are for morals people, liberals know conservatives have morals they fallow, and they use those same morals against them. Liberals love the Bushes, McAin, Romney for these reasons, they know those are conservatives that want to keep quite and being seen as the good kid in the classroom.

What was what cause most hysteria with Trump among liberals? he did not fallow the passive submissive conservative playbook, and his supporters took note.

This struck liberals with fear, fear that they have not feel in long time, when Trump delivered the "only Rosie O'Donnell" comment, they knew something was not right. Because Romney was brought down in part thanks to the "binders full of women" comment, it was not just he did things liberals did not like but he did not apologize for it.

They way Trump supporters are interrupting the play in NY is while look simple is evidence conservatives Trump supporters are now playing dirty just like them, and that scared the shit out of them, art is a secret place for them, if Jeb was president they would not have to worry about this.

What scared liberals the most is conservatives will not fallow the same morals that almost drive them into extinction.

Take a look for example to recent Cuban policy change, liberals don't like it because it panders to Cubans in Florida that helped Trump wins the state, did you read that? liberals don't like Trump is fulfilling his promise to a demographic that helped him win. Yet, that is what liberals do all the time, but they hate Trump is playing by THEIR RULES, they get mad.

Post: #66017

(06-19-2017 06:24 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Well the Dems have Trump encircled in a small trap with this expanded team of lawyer Bob just hired. He needs to let his people talk for him and now would be a great time to stop tweeting about it and let his lawyers handle it all.

They probably think if they give him enough rope he can hang his own neck. Which is true. That is not news at all. Everyone knows his weakness in that regard. It's better not to make a full circus out of it at this rate. Let them find nothing, like they are supposed to. At worst, I think Flynn is the only one that will be in any trouble if there was any to be gotten in. I know Flynn was his man and helped put him there and had his back since the beginning, but somewhere along the way he made some missteps and left himself vulnerable to the scum and they pulled their blackmail file on him. Time to let it go and move on. Political casualties happen all the time. It's nothing personal.

I'm confident it will blow over. On the bright side, it's HUGE ammo to hurt the Dems with when it fizzles. They will have zero credibility left publically. They better hope the evidence they planted was not seen by someone. You know they did....

Just preventing him from reaching out and communicating with his base would be a serious blow. One of the reasons they criticize his tweets so much is because they cannot control them like they do the presstitutes, it's the words straight from his mouth. What else does he have? Other Presidents had at least one network supporting them (Bush had Fox etc.). Without this pulpit, he has nothing but talking head TELLING people what he means. Won't end well.

Post: #66018

(06-19-2017 06:43 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  You know the more I see what Islam is capable of, the more use I see Israel being propped up as a buffer in the region a very good thing.

Israel's aim isn't to act as a buffer. It's to expand Israel throughout the Middle East by dumping the populations currently occupying the land they covet and whose continued presence would threaten Israel's very existence upon The West.

If the West is weakened and destroyed by the Jews, it's a small price to pay for Greater Zion becoming a reality.

Post: #66019

(06-19-2017 09:37 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 06:24 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Well the Dems have Trump encircled in a small trap with this expanded team of lawyer Bob just hired. He needs to let his people talk for him and now would be a great time to stop tweeting about it and let his lawyers handle it all.

They probably think if they give him enough rope he can hang his own neck. Which is true. That is not news at all. Everyone knows his weakness in that regard. It's better not to make a full circus out of it at this rate. Let them find nothing, like they are supposed to. At worst, I think Flynn is the only one that will be in any trouble if there was any to be gotten in. I know Flynn was his man and helped put him there and had his back since the beginning, but somewhere along the way he made some missteps and left himself vulnerable to the scum and they pulled their blackmail file on him. Time to let it go and move on. Political casualties happen all the time. It's nothing personal.

I'm confident it will blow over. On the bright side, it's HUGE ammo to hurt the Dems with when it fizzles. They will have zero credibility left publically. They better hope the evidence they planted was not seen by someone. You know they did....

Just preventing him from reaching out and communicating with his base would be a serious blow. One of the reasons they criticize his tweets so much is because they cannot control them like they do the presstitutes, it's the words straight from his mouth. What else does he have? Other Presidents had at least one network supporting them (Bush had Fox etc.). Without this pulpit, he has nothing but talking head TELLING people what he means. Won't end well.

He just needs to not talk about the investigation. He should still use Twitter, just not to tweet about the Russia Investigation. They want to get him on technicallities. How shameful would it be to be charged with obstruction, on a investigation that panned out to be nothing? That's what they are trying to do.

Let Newt and Huckabee continue to bombard the integrity of that investigation. Newt is doing a great job so far.

(06-19-2017 09:52 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 06:43 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  You know the more I see what Islam is capable of, the more use I see Israel being propped up as a buffer in the region a very good thing.

Israel's aim isn't to act as a buffer. It's to expand Israel throughout the Middle East by dumping the populations currently occupying the land they covet and whose continued presence would threaten Israel's very existence upon The West.

If the West is weakened and destroyed by the Jews, it's a small price to pay for Greater Zion becoming a reality.

Right that is their goal more or less, but that does not have to be our reality. Countries with competing goals can still work together or use each other. We already have that relationship with China. This should be normal by now. This is what we call International Relations 101. They don't want Islamic rule getting stronger around them and we need essentially the same thing.

Post: #66020

Trump knows exactly what he's doing. Every tweet. Relax and let the master work.

He may dance that line between what is politically correct and what is not, but is masterful when it comes to the law.

Post: #66021

U.S. Quietly Admits Covert CIA Role in Iranian Coup

Quote:Long suppressed report on U.S. covert action in Iran finally sees light of day

BY: Adam Kredo
June 19, 2017 5:00 am

The Trump administration has released a long-suppressed and classified government report disclosing U.S. clandestine action in Iran that outlines America's role in the country's 1953 coup, the State Department announced last week in a move that is likely to roil the Islamic Republic.

The report, which details covert U.S. operations in Iran, has been the source of controversy for quite some time, as the former Obama administration had suppressed its publication in a bid to avoid upsetting Iran during diplomatic efforts to foster the landmark nuclear deal.

While a small portion of the report still remains classified, its release marks the first time the United States is officially acknowledging its clandestine role in the 1953 coup against the Iranian government led by Mohammad Mosadeq.

Multiple efforts to force publication of the documents were blocked by the Obama administration during its time in the White House, and it seemed the report would not see the light of day as late as April of this year.

However, the State Department quietly released the detailed report late last week, potentially in an effort to minimize the fallout.

"There is no known evidence that Secretary of State Tillerson participated in the decision to permit publication," according to the Federation of American Scientists, or FAS which has long been tracking the publication.

The State Department did appear to bury the report's release last week.

"Evidently wishing to downplay its significance, however, the State Department buried an announcement of the new volume at the bottom of a June 15 press release," FAS noted in its publication Secrecy News, which documents national security events." After listing 16 other publications, it briefly mentioned that the Iran retrospective volume had "also" been released, making no mention of the decades-long controversy leading up to its publication."

One U.S. official claimed, "there is no question that receiving approval to publish the volume was much less difficult with the change of administrations," according to FAS. "Indeed, it encountered remarkably little resistance."

The release could be part of an effort by the Trump administration to more forcefully confront Iran and move away from a U.S. policy that sought to appease the Islamic Republic in order to keep it complying with the nuclear agreement.

Historians have long sought the report, which ties CIA operative to the 1953 coup in Iran.

The Advisory Committee on Historical Diplomatic Documentation to the Department of State, or HAC, criticized the Obama administration for preventing the report's release, citing an effort by the former administration to suppress this information in order to avoid upsetting Iran.

"The HAC was severely disappointed that the Department of State did not permit publication of the long-delayed Iran Retrospective volume because it judged the political environment too sensitive," the committee wrote in a report issued in April. "The HAC was unsuccessful in its efforts to meet with [former] Secretary Kerry to discuss the volume, and now there is no timetable for its release."

Post: #66022

Post: #66023

(06-15-2017 04:50 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 02:47 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

I will calmly and firmly nail this list to your door:

Because you refuse to accept the Left has openly declared war on you and your supporters, either through ignorance or arrogance.

Because you had your chance to show the adults are back in charge back in February, and to firmly clamp down on their shit, and to show disrespect and violence will not be tolerated, and have utterly-failed in that regard.

Because you believe that if you're 'nice' to the Left, they'll come around, because you think their minds are still capable of being swayed by Objective Reality, when Leftist Educators, particularly since Obama, have deliberately programmed most of the Millennial Generation to only experience Reality Subjectively and to be charged with acting as Agents of Change.

Because your Christianity reads like an Insincere, Manipulative Prop, and your recent Bill on religious freedom - signed with much theatricality - upon closer inspection, still offered them no protections from the deliberate targeting tactics of the Left.

Because you dragged out the same series of minority props during the State of the Union address Hillary would have, and believed telling their stories would make you sympathetic to the Left.

Because you think the solution is 'American Jobs!' supplied by Multi-national Corporations, failing to realise that Capitalism itself was first converged by Anti-Authoritarian Marxism (see Jonathon McIntosh), which was then itself converged by traditional Marxism (see how Anita Sarkeesian was originally the former and flipped to the latter), and we're now reaching the tipping point of Capitalist Companies being wielded as an Socialist tool of silencing and oppression.

Because the problem isn't just the public bureaucratic class.

Because you refuse to fight back when your 'close' friends and supporters are attacked.

Because you refuse to fight back when your supporters are deliberately-silenced and openly-discriminated-against by Silicon Valley, to the degree that I have to note the change only happened after your big meeting with them, which makes me suspicious that you don't want a politically-informed, high-information voting populace any more than the Left does.

Because doing what is Right is rarely the same thing as what is Easy, so I'm always been wary of being manipulated by promises of prosperity and comfort for my allegiance.

Because you can't be All Things to All People, so need to accept some of those Right Choices will make you deeply-unpopular.

Because you can't always fix something by throwing money at it, and it's obviously the spiritual infrastructure of the country - not the physical - that needs repairing.

Because tweets like this or about being portrayed as a clown in a rap video read as impotent whining from an embittered school child about how things 'are not fair!', rather than as 'Winning'.

Because tweets like this read as insulting to your followers, since they lack both your power or privilege to remain insulated from the physical, psychological and economic violence of the Left.

Because the level of political discourse has fallen enough that Empty Twitter Drama is taken seriously as any kind of lasting, damaging blow.

Because, complacency and concession has no place in War, and I believe your supporters thought they were voting for General Trump, not Businessman Trump.

Because the Unquestioning Idolatry and Faith of your followers strikes me as blasphemous, since every man is flawed and humble before God, and we all have to be vigilant in our capacity for sin or to be swayed by evil.

Because your followers constantly talk about '4D Chess' when I'd rather you play traditional chess: Make your move, and take your opponent's piece off the table.

Because you're arrogant enough to think being smarter than 99.99% of the population will keep you safe, when I'm smarter than 99.98% of the population, but can still see how easily the 'little people' could remove you from power, due to their inability to perceive Objective Truth.

Because, despite what everyone says, I suspect you won't see it coming.

I very much hope I'm wrong, but if the deliberate, targeted assassination yesterday doesn't wake you up to the hard reality of the battle ahead - and your statement on the matter was business as usual - I'm not sure what will.

(06-15-2017 05:15 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 03:15 PM)Matrixdude Wrote:  

So, basically, "She did it first!" You'd think an 'Alpha' would know by now that Men and Women are held to different standards for the exact same act, let alone worse ones. I fucking learnt that by the second grade, and accepted it as the reality. No point whining about it.

This is exactly the type of Empty Twitter Theatrics I was talking about above.

We already know all of this, and have known it for a long time.

If it's a threat, well, he suggested he'd jail her for her crimes in the debates. Yet no action was taken after the election, and he talked about 'moving on'.

Yes, he bitches about her now and again on Twitter, but a whiny tweet like this is not action, and I see no reason to celebrate it.

Either nut up and start the formal FBI prosecution to see justice through, or STFU about it.

If the former happens, then I'll celebrate. Otherwise, it's just the pre-break 'coming up on...' hook on any reality show, hoping that you'll stay and sit through the commercials by selectively editing upcoming footage to make it look like something huge, exciting and dramatic is about to happen, only to be revealed as The Inconsequential, over-inflated.

This shit is escalating quickly. It's time to shit or get off the pot.

Although you are technically correct that the left is behaving completely outrageously and need to be smacked down, you are incorrect about how President Trump should react.

The most important thing Trump needs to do is keep the moral high ground as the leader in case of a Civil War. Civil Wars are not fought the same way as conventional wars when the enemy is clearly defined.

In a Civil War, things usually break down into 1/3 on Side A, 1/3 on Side B, and 1/3 undecided. Winning over the neutral and undecided elements is by far the most important thing to do to be victorious in a war.

So while partisans like us, on the ground floor should be calling for retribution, the leader at the top needs to appear impartial and righteous as possible to win over more support.

Not only did America defeat the British this way, but it was how Lincoln defeated the Democrats the last time around. When Lincoln delivered his first inaugural address, he already had scores of Southern infringements against the North to talk about. Republican Congressmen had been attacked. Southerners were murdering Northerners all over the border states. Most of the South had already seceded from the Union. And yet, did Lincoln call for war on his first day in office? No, he kept the moral high ground:

http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html

Quote:Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that—
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
3
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:
Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
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I now reiterate these sentiments, and in doing so I only press upon the public attention the most conclusive evidence of which the case is susceptible that the property, peace, and security of no section are to be in any wise endangered by the now incoming Administration. I add, too, that all the protection which, consistently with the Constitution and the laws, can be given will be cheerfully given to all the States when lawfully demanded, for whatever cause—as cheerfully to one section as to another.

He made no calls for war, and instead insisted on the lawfulness of his positions (of not allowing Slavery to spread) as well as the illegitimacy of the South's secession.

The war came anyways, of course, but because Lincoln appeared the more reasonable leaders compared to Jefferson Davis, the North ended up with the support of most border states. The moral high ground gave the North an overwhelming advantage which was impossible for the South to overcome.

Likewise Trump is doing the same thing, very carefully, with the shooting of the Republican Congressmen, making sure to appeal to everyone's humanity and need to avoid violence. The Democrats, understanding that they could easily lose the moral high ground, responded to the shooting by condemning all forms of political violence, standing with solidarity with Republicans during the baseball game, etc.

Democratic politics is a game for the undecided middle, at all times, so Trump's posturing over the shooting prudently reflects that. Trump is making the right moves to keep power on his side and forcing the Democrats to defend Republicans or find themselves forsaken as violent power hungry maniacs.

And if the Dems really want to go the distance with a Civil War II, then we'll enter it with the majority of the populace on our side because our President was not a social autiste with zero understanding of how mass politics works.

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Little Marco and Ivanka...was their greeting awkward?

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That would be short sided bc without US support Israel would be overrun eventually. I trust Bibi more than I trust US secular Jews and Neocons.

We need to get rid of dual citizenship. They shouldn't be allowed a fallback plan once they ruin America.

(06-19-2017 09:52 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 06:43 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  You know the more I see what Islam is capable of, the more use I see Israel being propped up as a buffer in the region a very good thing.

Israel's aim isn't to act as a buffer. It's to expand Israel throughout the Middle East by dumping the populations currently occupying the land they covet and whose continued presence would threaten Israel's very existence upon The West.

If the West is weakened and destroyed by the Jews, it's a small price to pay for Greater Zion becoming a reality.