Post: #61176

Looks like it was a "job completed."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/steve-...le/2619400

Quote:"Susan Rice operationalized the NSC during the last administration," Bannon told the Wall Street Journal. "I was put on to ensure that it was de-operationalized. General McMaster has returned the NSC to its proper function."

Post: #61177

Jack Posobiec released a Periscope that I haven't listened to yet: Paul Ryan encouraged Steve Bannon's removal from NatSec.

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One minute into Jack's periscope, "Jared Kushner has been leaking anti-Bannon information to Joe Scarborough."

Finished with the Periscope: Steve Bannon hasn't lost his security clearance, and can still attend NatSec meetings. He just isn't a member of NatSec.

Post: #61178

To the guys above, read what MOVSM wrote....

Bannon NEVER attended a meeting, so nothing is being "taken away", basically to me it sounds like a "use it or lose it situation"

Or maybe it was a strategic move to keep an eye on Flynn and others for awhile.

He wasn't shitcanned.

Chill brahs.

Post: #61179

(04-05-2017 11:55 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:49 AM)Edmund Ironside Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:00 AM)Truth Teller Wrote:  I don't see anything wrong with removing Bannon from the National Security Council and allowing the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to attend regularly again.

For all of Bannon's ability, he isn't military.

I think it sounds like a concession to deep state globalists. I hear the rationalizations, but I also think if it didn't matter, there's no reason for the change. I don't like it.

I'd do a 180 on that if they also announced that Bannon was too busy for NSC because he is going to be focused on how to undo the h-1b guest worker mess without having it result in even more offshoring of tech jobs.

Savage has had a take on this as well. Apparently some of the stupid decisions they've made so far were pushed by Bannon.

Bannon got fired because his ideas have blown up in Trump's face several times already. I think Trump already knows that there isn't any "concession" making to globalists because they won't be happy until he's out of office.

The "several" stupid ideas pushed by Bannon that have "blown up in Trump's face" would be ...?

Post: #61180

Live: President Trump and King Abdullah II Hold a Joint Press Conference

Post: #61181

Some twitter reactions:

Post: #61182

(04-05-2017 12:05 PM)kaotic Wrote:  To the guys above, read what MOVSM wrote....

Bannon NEVER attended a meeting, so nothing is being "taken away", basically to me it sounds like a "use it or lose it situation"

Or maybe it was a strategic move to keep an eye on Flynn and others for awhile.

He wasn't shitcanned.

Chill brahs.

Agree completely.

I'm a big believer in ignoring all the kremlinology coming out of white house watchers, as they try to figure out what this or that personnel move might mean.
Watch what Trump actually does, and worry about that.

Post: #61183

Weirdly, king of Jordan is the one in this whole mess talking some sense.

Next few days/weeks, will be ***interesting***

Post: #61184

Side note, the King of Jordan is a bad ass.



He started off as a platoon Leuitenant, became qualified as a tank driver, Cobra attack pilot, airborne qualified, and general of the Jordianian Special Forces. The dude still fucking trains with soldiers.

Post: #61185

(04-05-2017 11:59 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Jack Posobiec released a Periscope that I haven't listened to yet: Paul Ryan encouraged Steve Bannon's removal from NatSec.

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One minute into Jack's periscope, "Jared Kushner has been leaking anti-Bannon information to Joe Scarborough."

Finished with the Periscope: Steve Bannon hasn't lost his security clearance, and can still attend NatSec meetings. He just isn't a member of NatSec.

Post: #61186

Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Post: #61187

Removal of Bannon from NSC.

Kuschner leaks against Bannon.

Seemingly uncritical acceptance of western media reports re. Idlib gas attack.

Sabre-rattling against North Korea.

Are we Trump supporters suffering from political oneitis?

Post: #61188

(04-05-2017 01:29 PM)rockoman Wrote:  Removal of Bannon from NSC.

Kuschner leaks against Bannon.

Seemingly uncritical acceptance of western media reports re. Idlib gas attack.

Sabre-rattling against North Korea.

Are we Trump supporters suffering from political oneitis?

You know, Trump can do whatever the fuck he wants on all the above and as long as he materially decreases immigration, both legal and illegal, he will have been a fine president in my book. If on the other hand at the end of his first term he ends up being nothing but another neocon stooge internationally and does nothing beyond the mere symbolic on immigration, then he can get fucked. It's all about immigration at this point, nothing else matters.

Post: #61189

Brietbart putting a positive spin on the ouster of Banon from the NSC. May not be all that bad. He claims "mission accomplished"

Post: #61190

Good news is that border crossings have dropped dramatically to a 17 year low.

https://www.google.com/search?q=border+c...&tbm=nws&*

Just the news of this has done amazing work AND the wall is STILL being built.

We should hold off on assuming Assad had anything to do with the gas attacks.

North Korea has napoleon syndrome and can try and lash out but can't do shit, even if it hates it's big brother china.

Once again, Bannon wasn't doing shit on the NSC to begin with.

Kuschner leaks need to be investigated asap.

Post: #61191

(04-05-2017 01:17 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Trump is beginning to make bad moves now. (speculation)

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.(speculation)


This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble.(speculation)
He was involved in McMasters too (speculation)
and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.(speculation)


This is the result of McMasters. (speculation)
This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. (speculation)
Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.(speculation)


Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, (speculation)
because Trump's only weakness is his children. (speculation)
I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Fixed that for ya

Post: #61192

(04-05-2017 01:43 PM)phluff127 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 01:17 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Trump is beginning to make bad moves now. (speculation)

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.(speculation)


This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble.(speculation)
He was involved in McMasters too (speculation)
and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.(speculation)


This is the result of McMasters. (speculation)
This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. (speculation)
Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.(speculation)


Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, (speculation)
because Trump's only weakness is his children. (speculation)
I hope Bannon still has his ear.

Fixed that for ya

You didn't fix anything. I called this when McMasters was appointed.

/thread-48360...pid1519479


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/tr...ser-235212

Quote:McMaster wasn't on the White House’s radar for the job until Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), increasingly a trusted foreign policy voice within the White House, called Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner and Reince Priebus early last week and urged them to consider the former combat general, who served in both Iraq wars and in Afghanistan. Cotton's staffers then helped facilitate contact between McMaster and the White House. On Thursday, Cotton received word in a text message from one senior White House staffer that McMaster was on the short list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cotton..._education

Quote: Cotton was endorsed by Senator John McCain.[33] Cotton was supported by and has close ties to both the Tea Party movement and the Republican establishment.[34][35][36][37]

Cotton was endorsed by former Presidential nominee Mitt Romney,[57] the fiscally conservative Club for Growth PAC, Senator Marco Rubio, and the National Federation of Independent Business.[58][59][60][61][62] Romney campaigned for Cotton in the state.[63]

Cotton also seemed to underestimate what military action against Iran would entail,[77] stating: "the president is trying to make you think it would be 150,000 heavy mechanized troops on the ground in the Middle East again as we saw in Iraq. That's simply not the case." Drawing a comparison to President Bill Clinton's actions in 1998 during Operation Desert Fox, he elaborated: "Several days' air and naval bombing against Iraq's weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions."[77][78]

http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-cotto...&IR=T&IR=T

Quote: "He's establishment in the sense that he has an impressive educational and consulting background, combined with an intellect and hawkish foreign policy views that have impressed folks like Bill Kristol and earned him Sunday show appearances, which are rare for freshman House members," Mackowiak said.

Quote: Cotton, meanwhile, received a text message from Kushner thanking him for putting McMaster on their radar and stating that "he's going to be a great choice," a source familiar with the process said

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/arc...a=AMP+HTML

Post: #61193

Phluff,

Jack Posobiec reported that Jared Kushner is leaking anti-Bannon information to Joe Scarborough. If you call it "speculation", then you're implying that Jack Posobiec is lying/a bad reporter.

Justify this, or retract.

Post: #61194

Add Roger Stone to that list:

Post: #61195

Good lord I just saw Trump's cucking about "innocent babies".

Whatever is going with Kushner and McMasters, the internet needs to descend on these two now.

Post: #61196

As I have been saying the greatest threat isn't from the Maxine Waters or Chuck Schumer or any other Democrat babies, but from neocons worming their way into Trump's administration and whispering in his ear. Trump's shilling for Israel was always a problem, but we didn't know how far that would go.

First there was sabre rattling against North Korea and now this:





Not good. This isn't what we elected. Aren't we supposed to be fighting ISIS with Russia? That is what we were promised.

Post: #61197

So to the eyes of the cucked hordes , Bannon and therefore the Don have suffered a setback by his removal/exit from the ecurity council,and they are celebrating.
What do you gauge is the general population's reaction,particularly on the rustbelt? Will the label of "Bannon is a loser" stick or do you think they can spin it around in another chess move?As it seems giving up Bannon wouldnt be a good trade off

On the (us) populace's views,what do you think they view the syrian and/or russian situation?

Post: #61198

Trump needs to show proof of Syria's wrongdoing or he's going to lose a fuckton of support. Which sucks, because the Democrats are even bigger warmongers than Republicans nowadays!!


As for Steve Bannon - much ado about nothing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-05...ty-council

He was put on the NSC to remove a lot of left-wing political bullshit. Bannon feels he did his job, and now is moving onto other things. He has retained his National Security Clearance.

Just swamping draining folks, nothing to see here, move along.

Post: #61199

(04-05-2017 01:17 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Trump is beginning to make bad moves now.

Kushner leaking anti-Bannon stuff to the media.

This is a critical time, I knew Kushner would be trouble. He was involved in McMasters too and McMasters is a McCain and Ryan stooge.

This is the result of McMasters. This is McCain and the Neocon's plan with McMasters. Fabricate the gas attack, use McMasters to shill.

Kushner has got to go, knew he would be trouble, because Trump's only weakness is his children. I hope Bannon still has his ear.

His children? That dude is a son-in-law. No telling where that guy's mind is at. He and his family had their own thing before joining his family. He did not raise that guy. If he nods his head like he is listening whenever Trump talks, that means jack squat.

This goes back to what I said about his daughter being the only woman worthy of being in his circle. He has no real control over inlaws. Any man that claims they do, is full of shit, and likely never been married before.

Sometimes the limelight changes people that ordinarily are okay people. All it does is draw out their inherit weaknesses if anything.

Trump is like myself and several of us in this way. He was not always a Republican. His extended family may not exactly all be Republican and worst of all, not that loyal to him either. Some of you in this thread were worried about his Jewish inlaws. At the time, I was skeptic of that side of his camp myself, but I did not think it was enough to sound a bell over, because I thought I was just feeling slightly irrational out of fear of the unknown people. Now, it's not looking good at all.

Anyway, he needs to reign in all this turnover stuff. It's starting to look like a hot mess. The Whitehouse cannot look like a revolving door, like your typical American business. There needs to be some consistency and continuity to move forward at some point.

The good news is that he is catching stuff early and he can deal with it now, rather than have leaks for years and never know.

The bad thing is that he may need to reach out and grab more regulars because some of these outsiders are starstuck and fucking up his image. I think the poll numbers are garbage on his approval ratings, but right now is not a good time to be dipping on that.

The best news is that he still has time left to formulate a solid team and government. The door flapping, just needs to be a little bit less. If Trump wants to make this a normal thing, I would highly advise against that. That mentality belongs only in corporate. After a short while, he will run out of people to fire. If he wants to be proactive, he needs to start grooming high quality folks for later on or the second term for various positions. Guys like Colin Noir come to mind. Unfortunately draining the swamp completely would leave the government crippled. Can't jail em all either. Gotta play the long game.

Also, if Kushner had any respect for his father in law, he should resign instead and not wait for Trump to send him out. For embarrassing him and the whole family, that is the least he could do.

When will people learn? The Information Age has begun to peak. Information and technological warfare is at an all time high. Nothing stays a secret for long now. The days of "anonymous sources" are starting to fade away into the history books.

Post: #61200

Not sure what to think of this:


BREAKING: Rick Perry added to National Security Council’s core decision-makers

Quote:Adding Perry to the NSC’s principals committee now brings the cabinet official in charge of the nation’s nuclear stockpile into the fold. The lion’s share of the Energy Department’s budget goes toward the National Nuclear Security Administration, which deals with the military application of nuclear science.