(02-26-2016 06:10 PM)Kickb Wrote:  I hate and don't understand why Ohio is so crucial. It's an awful state to live in; the worst in the union!

Please don't tell me you live in Zanesville.

(02-26-2016 06:02 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  I would like to see Trump pull out another major endorsement like Huckabee on Sunday or Monday. Maybe first thing Monday morning.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see Ronald Reagan and Dwight Eisenhower come back to life just to endorse Trump.

Trump will 100% win: Alaska, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Colorado, Massachusetts, north Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennesee, Vermont

Trump has better odds at winning: Minnesota and Virginia, and rubio might be a tighter second.

Cruz has better odds at winning Texas.


March 5th:
Trump wins Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana and Maine(thanks to governers endorsements)


This thing is over, its in the Media's interest to keep this going though, remember that. Its not just that they don't like trump, they need to keep selling ads, if Trump is decided as the winner by March 15th, CNN - MSNBC and the sunday talk shows will lose money. CNN was being very fair, almost too fair to Trump prior and during the Nevada caucus. Suddenly turned during and after that Debate. They wanted him for the ratings but they also want this to last as long as possible. CNN needs at least 2 more republican debates to beat msnbc quarterly. Morning Joe has been beating them in the mornings.

I watched the debate last night, and it's pretty clear to me that Trump lost to Rubio. I've always been a Pat Buchanan fan, so I support Trump's hard-line positions on immigration and trade. While I initially liked Trump, I now realize he has some serious flaws:

a) Trump has a very thin skin when others criticize him. Instead of addressing the topic, he simply hurls insults in return. Not only is it obnoxious, it makes you think he is hiding something. He also has a serious empathy deficit.

b) Rubio is correct that Trump is very vague on details of policy proposals. For instance, on how to replace Obamacare, the only thing he mentions is more competition between insurance companies. That will lower costs, but keeps the essence of Obamacare in place...what exactly is his "better" plan?

c) How is he going to cut taxes, and yet increase military/veteran's spending, while maintaining entitlement programs? Math doesn't seem to add up.

d) Trump is not so independent-thinking on Israel and ISIS, but rather maintains the party line. Why exactly should the USA be pro-Israel? Isn't that a big source of our problems with the Muslim world? And why should we bomb the hell out of ISIS? Will that really solve anything in the long run?

e) It's really unclear if he is successful at business at all. I grew up in NY, and our impression was that he was more a self-promoter than anything else. His alliance with Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad/multi-level marketing schemes also is highly questionable. These MLMs and zero-down real-estate deals are mainly used to lure low IQ individuals trying to get-rich quick.

I have a feeling that Trump's support will start to go down soon, and he won't win the nomination.

(02-26-2016 03:04 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 01:39 PM)username Wrote:  Chris Christie is on fire today wow

Get in here guys

1 hour 30 min in.

First he talks about illegal immigration, then talks about how America will set an example for Europe and starts talking about the migrant crisis into Europe, then protesters start a scene, then Trump talks about how dishonest the media is.

At 1h33m, then Trump talks about the shit the modern media is and proposes revising the libel laws.

Holy crap! I've seen loads of Trump rallies and this is, by far, the best one yet!

In a somwhat related news:

Quote:MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry walks off show in protest

LINK

Her show was probably replaced with footage of donald trump. Making america great again, 1 less crazy marxist host at a time.

(02-26-2016 06:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 06:10 PM)Kickb Wrote:  I hate and don't understand why Ohio is so crucial. It's an awful state to live in; the worst in the union!

Please don't tell me you live in Zanesville.

I live in Ohio. It is pretty crucial as far as the election goes. Each of the last 10+ elections, the candidate that won Ohio, won the presidency.

On a side note, I believe that Trump should pick Kasich as his VP.

(02-26-2016 06:42 PM)8ball Wrote:  

Quote:MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry walks off show in protest

Good riddance. She actually said on live TV with a serious voice that one shouldn't be talking about "hard worker" because it is somewhat associated with slavery. Yeah, bitch. You better undress immediately because the cotton your shit outfit is made of is also somewhat associated with slavery.







This bitch has definitely lost her mind.

(02-26-2016 06:33 PM)jasond Wrote:  I watched the debate last night, and it's pretty clear to me that Trump lost to Rubio. I've always been a Pat Buchanan fan, so I support Trump's hard-line positions on immigration and trade. While I initially liked Trump, I now realize he has some serious flaws:

a) Trump has a very thin skin when others criticize him. Instead of addressing the topic, he simply hurls insults in return. Not only is it obnoxious, it makes you think he is hiding something. He also has a serious empathy deficit.

b) Rubio is correct that Trump is very vague on details of policy proposals. For instance, on how to replace Obamacare, the only thing he mentions is more competition between insurance companies. That will lower costs, but keeps the essence of Obamacare in place...what exactly is his "better" plan?

c) How is he going to cut taxes, and yet increase military/veteran's spending, while maintaining entitlement programs? Math doesn't seem to add up.

d) Trump is not so independent-thinking on Israel and ISIS, but rather maintains the party line. Why exactly should the USA be pro-Israel? Isn't that a big source of our problems with the Muslim world? And why should we bomb the hell out of ISIS? Will that really solve anything in the long run?

e) It's really unclear if he is successful at business at all. I grew up in NY, and our impression was that he was more a self-promoter than anything else. His alliance with Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad/multi-level marketing schemes also is highly questionable. These MLMs and zero-down real-estate deals are mainly used to lure low IQ individuals trying to get-rich quick.

I have a feeling that Trump's support will start to go down soon, and he won't win the nomination.

A. Trump knows defending his positions is a losing battle. That is simply not a good idea unless it can be said in 1-2 sentences.

B. Plans never work out and Trump has released as much detail as anybody else but he doesn't sit on stage and explain it because again, it bores people. It is a losing strategy.

C. Programs are 20-40% fraud, some probably worse. Cut them. Some of them will be cut 100%.

D. Trump maintains the party line on Israel? What? And on ISIS he wants to take out their profitable oil rigs and leave Assad alone. That is not the party line.

Maybe he won't win it, there is a lot of lobbyist and banker money backing Rubio. Many seem to want to continue that path.

(02-26-2016 06:33 PM)jasond Wrote:  I watched the debate last night, and it's pretty clear to me that Trump lost to Rubio. I've always been a Pat Buchanan fan, so I support Trump's hard-line positions on immigration and trade. While I initially liked Trump, I now realize he has some serious flaws:

a) Trump has a very thin skin when others criticize him. Instead of addressing the topic, he simply hurls insults in return. Not only is it obnoxious, it makes you think he is hiding something. He also has a serious empathy deficit.

b) Rubio is correct that Trump is very vague on details of policy proposals. For instance, on how to replace Obamacare, the only thing he mentions is more competition between insurance companies. That will lower costs, but keeps the essence of Obamacare in place...what exactly is his "better" plan?

c) How is he going to cut taxes, and yet increase military/veteran's spending, while maintaining entitlement programs? Math doesn't seem to add up.

d) Trump is not so independent-thinking on Israel and ISIS, but rather maintains the party line. Why exactly should the USA be pro-Israel? Isn't that a big source of our problems with the Muslim world? And why should we bomb the hell out of ISIS? Will that really solve anything in the long run?

e) It's really unclear if he is successful at business at all. I grew up in NY, and our impression was that he was more a self-promoter than anything else. His alliance with Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad/multi-level marketing schemes also is highly questionable. These MLMs and zero-down real-estate deals are mainly used to lure low IQ individuals trying to get-rich quick.

I have a feeling that Trump's support will start to go down soon, and he won't win the nomination.

(02-26-2016 06:33 PM)jasond Wrote:  a) Trump has a very thin skin when others criticize him. Instead of addressing the topic, he simply hurls insults in return. Not only is it obnoxious, it makes you think he is hiding something. He also has a serious empathy deficit.

If he were just shouting "fuck you fuck you fuck you" at them, you'd be entirely right. But Trump has a masterful habit of throwing low-key but very stinging insults like "low energy" and "choke artist". Reframing and attacking back is much better than engaging in long boring diatribes on the defensive [like !Jeb often did]. Sorry, that's just how communication works.

Quote:b) Rubio is correct that Trump is very vague on details of policy proposals. For instance, on how to replace Obamacare, the only thing he mentions is more competition between insurance companies. That will lower costs, but keeps the essence of Obamacare in place...what exactly is his "better" plan?

He is vague, but A) the detailed serious people with 2000-point plans have fucked up the country immensely to the point where it is unable to maintain the very basics like roads and bridges and B) Exactly, it will lower costs. The end goal is for American consumers to pay less for healthcare, and no one cares if it's called Obamacare, Trumpcare or Aliencare.

Quote:c) How is he going to cut taxes, and yet increase military/veteran's spending, while maintaining entitlement programs? Math doesn't seem to add up.

Lowering corporate tax rates, simplifying the tax code and closing and harshly punishing the use of loopholes will result in an overall increase in tax receipts. For example, mega-corporations like Apple pay almost zero taxes. If you get Apple to pay a fair rate of just 5% instead of engaging in global shenanigans and headaches to pay 1% (instead of the current 35% that no one pays), that's still a fivefold increase in tax receipts, not to mention savings and efficiency from reducing the bloated IRS.

Quote:d) Trump is not so independent-thinking on Israel and ISIS, but rather maintains the party line. Why exactly should the USA be pro-Israel? Isn't that a big source of our problems with the Muslim world? And why should we bomb the hell out of ISIS? Will that really solve anything in the long run?

I agree that USA shouldn't be pro-Israel, but Trump's normal view of Israel (i.e. a "real estate dispute involving a friend") for which he is getting attacked is already a vast improvement over the fanatical neocon "Israel the holy country" policies of the last 20 years.

USA has a duty to eliminate ISIS (or support those who will eliminate it) because USA has created ISIS in the first place.

Quote:e) It's really unclear if he is successful at business at all. I grew up in NY, and our impression was that he was more a self-promoter than anything else. His alliance with Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad/multi-level marketing schemes also is highly questionable. These MLMs and zero-down real-estate deals are mainly used to lure low IQ individuals trying to get-rich quick.

I don't know anything about this person and condemn MLM schemes, but no one builds an empire worth 8 billion on pyramid schemes like that. He does own a ton of land, restaurants, hotels, golf courses, TV shows and other very tangible goods, so yes I would call him "successful".

Either way, I disagree on all points and think that, barring some extreme sabotage or fuckup, he can only go up from here.

Rally incoming:

   

(02-26-2016 06:47 PM)Requiem Wrote:  

Isn't that the bitch from those MSNBC propaganda videos about how your children actually belong to the state, not you?

Also, great arguments, jasond, you really convinced me with your hot opinions.

(02-26-2016 06:44 PM)They Call Me Mister Tony Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 06:18 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(02-26-2016 06:10 PM)Kickb Wrote:  I hate and don't understand why Ohio is so crucial. It's an awful state to live in; the worst in the union!

Please don't tell me you live in Zanesville.

I live in Ohio. It is pretty crucial as far as the election goes. Each of the last 10+ elections, the candidate that won Ohio, won the presidency.

On a side note, I believe that Trump should pick Kasich as his VP.

Relax! Kickcb has never even visited the USA!

Quote:e) It's really unclear if he is successful at business at all. I grew up in NY, and our impression was that he was more a self-promoter than anything else. His alliance with Robert Kiyosaki of the Rich Dad/multi-level marketing schemes also is highly questionable. These MLMs and zero-down real-estate deals are mainly used to lure low IQ individuals trying to get-rich quick.

So all those hotels he's built were... what? Illusions? Giant paper-mache cutouts? If I try to stay overnight in one will I go inside and find out it's all made out of cardboard?
I don't know what your "impressions" of Trump were when you grew up, but given that he's got a massive real estate empire and you don't, why is your opinion of any value here? Do you have some kind of insider knowledge about his finances, or is it just 30-year old gossip?

Basketcase getting BTFO.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Of course Trump has a great advantage over the other GOP candidates over the next four days. He has his own airplane, "Trumpforce 1" with which he can fly to as many "super Tuesday" states for rallies as he physically can.

What an extraordinary chap! I, being British, normally ignore th whole US election process, but 2016 is absolutely riveting!


And good luck to him, stick it to the establishment for us all. A New Trump World order is in force!

"Only I can beat Hillary, guys!" -King of the Rats

(02-26-2016 06:56 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Rally incoming:

Here we go. Crispy warming them up.

   

(02-27-2016 08:11 PM)Prince of Persia Wrote:  I wonder when Sanders is going to call it quits...

I hope that if Trump gets screwed out of the nomination and is forced to run independent, Bernie runs independent as well. Might as well screw both sides. I think it would end with a revolution or civil war though.

(02-27-2016 08:09 PM)ms224 Wrote:  I think the trolls here have stumbled on a point. I would like to see some serious specifics, not just
hand to hand soundbites.

Something like Ross Perot did, they might have mocked him for his charts but at least he had the dignity to think
that people outside the beltway can understand complex ideas and make sound decisions.

Yes, I remember with some nostalgia the two Presidential terms of Ross Perot. Oh wait...