(06-15-2017 08:29 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  What is T supposed to do exactly? Round up the "leftists" into internment camps? Form brownshirt brigades from among the ranks of the "alt-right" -- any volunteers, by the way?

(06-16-2017 08:39 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  ^Case in point.

Trump needs to turn to the people who put him in office and tell them that it's time to break out the torches and the pitchforks.

I think Trump is going about this the right way, he's got to weather all the attacks and implement his policies gradually to keep holding on to the middle ground.

Could you provide an analysis of:

a) What those policies are.
b) What time frame they'll be implemented in.
c) What effect they'll have on the long term balance of power.

These are the three questions that cannot simply be answered with "Trump train!"

When Trump steps out of the Whitehouse then either he has officially made America great again or you are about to be put up against the wall.

Blind faith is not going to cut it.

Now, the question is worth asking, if he fails what is your plan B?

(06-16-2017 08:27 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Quote:Does anyone here honestly have the slightest sense that any demographic gains will not be swept aside in the first year of a Democrat/Republicuck administration?

We need to see significant legal immigration reform passed by Trump AND Congress or the country is fucked.

That's the only action that will make a long term difference.

To be fair, shit is already lost. Both Florida and Texas are gonna turn blue before the 2020's are out, and at that point it's game over. I'm not convinced that Florida will still be attainable by 2020 even if it's Jesus himself who is headlining the GOP ticket. Just think about it: each year, we have an entire cohort of predominantly white, predominantly GOP-voting geezers either kicking the bucket or aging past the "enough on-the-ball to vote" stage. Simultaneously, an entirely new cohort of disproportionately minority, disproportionately leftist-leaning youth turn 18 and are eligible to vote (or if you want to split hairs and say the young don't vote, then each year a cohort of disproportionately minority, disproportionately leftist-leaning youth become old enough where they start to care about voting).

Texas is already only 40% white, the only reason it isn't already blue is that a large fraction of its hispanics are minors or non-citizens. There is no way Texas is still red by 2028.

Regardless of whether Trump continues cucking or rediscovers his ballsack the demographics are already baked in. Stack your cash and prepare to abandon ship. Or happily meme yourself to sleep while the ship sinks for all I care.

Make conservative areas hostile enough and the demographics will be just fine. Yet another reason Trump needs to treat his base like a vigilante army.

In any case, organisational skills and political networks don't just magically manifest when violence goes mainstream.

The left already has these structures in place. The right does not. Jimmy cop/veteran/deer hunter is not going to assemble with his battle loadout on the village green and face off with the British in formation. He's going to do precisely what he's done for the last ten years. Nothing.

As long as the left leave him in his shack in the middle of nowhere he's not going to get off his ass to martyr himself now or ever. He along with millions of other guys just like him are going to keep talking about how "those lefties are going to get steamrolled when they finally go too far" but "too far" just seems to keep being pushed back and back and back to the point where they're attempting to murder your elected representatives and all these supposed elite right wing death machines are still stroking their glocks in their basements to outrage-porn.

"Any minute now..."

Yeah, any fucking minute now Johnny Veteran is going to learn how to win friends and influence people. He's going to find loyal and trustworthy friends who will pull his ass out of the fire or at least sing of his valour if he makes the ultimate sacrifice.

Fucking, nope. He's ready to die for God and flag but getting on the stairmaster and starting a local organisation is a bridge too far.

Here's the problem. Johnny Veteran spent his entire career being ordered what to do and when to do it, and he might talk a big game but when it comes down to it he's not willing to take responsibility for his own actions. Without a chain of command he's every bit as dangerous as a bowl of cold oatmeal. Worse yet, try telling him to fall in line and be part of a team when you don't have the requisite cub-scout badge as provided by the local law enforcement politburo. He'll tell you loudly and proudly that ain't no fucking civvie gonna tell him what to do.

Trump might not be willing to spell it out, but men have got to wake up fast if they want to have a chance to properly turn this thing around. Too many people thought that getting Trump into the Whitehouse was the end of history but now it's shaping up to be nothing more than the prelude to a very ugly story.

Trump should have the DOJ start arresting congressmen. Start with Kamala Harris and Maxine Waters. They just got exposed for bribery. Then move on to Schumer, Pelosi, McCain and Feinstein. Schiff too. Go over them with a lice comb and lock them up.

Yesterday evening, I was sitting on a bench at a park, sunglasses on, reading a Nassim Taleb book, as two blonde girls (6.5 territory, WB) in their early 20s came and sat at the chair nearby. They were speaking loudly, so I couldn't help but overhear their conversation. During the 15 minutes that I was seated next to them (as they were eating burgers and chips, UGH). A brief summary of some of the stuff they said:

"I think if Hillary were a man and had a dick, she would have won in a landslide"

"I want a woman president. I don't care who!"

"If he (Trump) could take away all our rights, he would. I bet Melania is miserable. Their sex life must suck !"

"Women like Laura Ingraham are the reason we don't have equal rights as men and no equal pay"

"Ah, I really envy Iceland. Gay pride is like a family holiday there. Imagine! How awesome!! I'm trying to talk my boyfriend into taking me there for a trip"

"Have you seen Newt Gingrich blame Alexandria shooting on Liberals ? Typical old white man. Ha, it's your own medicine of no gun control bitch !!"

(06-15-2017 04:50 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Because your Christianity reads like an Insincere, Manipulative Prop

(06-15-2017 08:29 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Further, all this talk about "Christianity", "spiritual infrastructure", "blasphemy", and so on, is utterly misguided in this context. T is not a religious guy, nor has he ever seriously claimed to be one

You're both






Quod Erat Demonstrandum (QED)

(06-16-2017 09:15 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Could you provide an analysis of:

a) What those policies are.
b) What time frame they'll be implemented in.
c) What effect they'll have on the long term balance of power.

These are the three questions that cannot simply be answered with "Trump train!"

When Trump steps out of the Whitehouse then either he has officially made America great again or you are about to be put up against the wall.

Blind faith is not going to cut it.

Now, the question is worth asking, if he fails what is your plan B?

Don't have time to elaborate, but basically, Trump needs to weather the storm right now, there is an ongoing coup attempt by the establishment. Laying low is smart, it highlights the lunacy of the left and the treachery of the cucks, making them appear as the crazed radicals that they are and dispelling the MSM narrative that Trump is the deranged side.

You have to be pragmatic and realistic here,, you go after the low-hanging fruit in immigration for example (felons, gangs etc). Hold frame with the independent moderates from MI, OH, WI and PA that have put him in the WH.

Policy highlights are ending open borders/mass immigration, stopping the globalist climate change agenda, avoiding escalation of interventionism in middle east, promoting socially conservative agenda at home and fighting the globalist agenda (TPP, vaccines, common core etc).

The time frame is 8 years, hence the need for a gradual approach that will help him get elected. In the long term, it will have an impact. It wont change everything overnight, but it will limit and stop the unchecked progress of many nefarious policies. For example Trump wanted detente with Russia, but he can't go there until he clears the disinfo campaign targeting his administration and him.

There is no Plan B, that's how the American political system is set up.

What do Mexicans think will happen when USA becomes latino-majority like all the regions they're fleeing from? You know, the shitty primitive places they're eager to leave.

Does it really not cross their minds ? goddamn

(06-16-2017 12:08 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  What do Mexicans think will happen when USA becomes latino-majority like all the regions they're fleeing from? You know, the shitty primitive places they're eager to leave.

Does it really not cross their minds ? goddamn

Trump is gonna speak in a few minutes in relation to his new Cuba policy. Pence is speaking at the moment.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/watch-liv.../449660186

Hes now speaking.

In regard to the Miami thing-

There is nothing I love more than my senator getting up and speaking in a foreign language to "his people". Really reminds me who will be fully running things in this shithole within a decade. South Florida didn't even go red anyway. I'm glad they didn't air what our faggot governor said either, dude chose to keep men on the alimony plantation when he had the chance to end it. Fuck him.

I approve of this move by Trump, Cuba deserves nothing from us. Fuck communism, it's as bad or worse than fascism. Ultimately though, I really don't care what happens with Cuba. And if immigration was allowed they would flood Florida with even more non-assimilating liberal voting Spanish speaking people. This state is doomed, it's only a matter of time before it turns blue and deep, hard, blue. We shouldn't be wasting our time in the worst part.

(06-16-2017 10:45 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Yesterday evening, I was sitting on a bench at a park, sunglasses on, reading a Nassim Taleb book, as two blonde girls (6.5 territory, WB) in their early 20s came and sat at the chair nearby. They were speaking loudly, so I couldn't help but overhear their conversation. During the 15 minutes that I was seated next to them (as they were eating burgers and chips, UGH). A brief summary of some of the stuff they said:

"I think if Hillary were a man and had a dick, she would have won in a landslide"

"I want a woman president. I don't care who!"

"If he (Trump) could take away all our rights, he would. I bet Melania is miserable. Their sex life must suck !"

"Women like Laura Ingraham are the reason we don't have equal rights as men and no equal pay"

"Ah, I really envy Iceland. Gay pride is like a family holiday there. Imagine! How awesome!! I'm trying to talk my boyfriend into taking me there for a trip"

"Have you seen Newt Gingrich blame Alexandria shooting on Liberals ? Typical old white man. Ha, it's your own medicine of no gun control bitch !!"

Two 6.5 early 20s blondes know who Laura Ingraham and Newt Gingrich are, can find Iceland on a map, and heard there was a shooting in Alexandria?

(06-16-2017 09:55 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Make conservative areas hostile enough and the demographics will be just fine. Yet another reason Trump needs to treat his base like a vigilante army.

In any case, organisational skills and political networks don't just magically manifest when violence goes mainstream.

The left already has these structures in place. The right does not. Jimmy cop/veteran/deer hunter is not going to assemble with his battle loadout on the village green and face off with the British in formation. He's going to do precisely what he's done for the last ten years. Nothing.

As long as the left leave him in his shack in the middle of nowhere he's not going to get off his ass to martyr himself now or ever. He along with millions of other guys just like him are going to keep talking about how "those lefties are going to get steamrolled when they finally go too far" but "too far" just seems to keep being pushed back and back and back to the point where they're attempting to murder your elected representatives and all these supposed elite right wing death machines are still stroking their glocks in their basements to outrage-porn.

"Any minute now..."

Yeah, any fucking minute now Johnny Veteran is going to learn how to win friends and influence people. He's going to find loyal and trustworthy friends who will pull his ass out of the fire or at least sing of his valour if he makes the ultimate sacrifice.

Fucking, nope. He's ready to die for God and flag but getting on the stairmaster and starting a local organisation is a bridge too far.

Here's the problem. Johnny Veteran spent his entire career being ordered what to do and when to do it, and he might talk a big game but when it comes down to it he's not willing to take responsibility for his own actions. Without a chain of command he's every bit as dangerous as a bowl of cold oatmeal. Worse yet, try telling him to fall in line and be part of a team when you don't have the requisite cub-scout badge as provided by the local law enforcement politburo. He'll tell you loudly and proudly that ain't no fucking civvie gonna tell him what to do.

Trump might not be willing to spell it out, but men have got to wake up fast if they want to have a chance to properly turn this thing around. Too many people thought that getting Trump into the Whitehouse was the end of history but now it's shaping up to be nothing more than the prelude to a very ugly story.

With all due respect (and it's a lot), I don't think that's entirely true. The free speech rallies have shown a willingness to physically engage with the enemy. Kyle Chapman blasting that dude over the head with a kendo stick was a rallying cry for anti-Antifa and pro-Trump muscle.

Is it getting the armed militia out of the compounds and onto the streets? No, but it's a start.

(06-15-2017 04:50 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Because you believe that if you're 'nice' to the Left, they'll come around, because you think their minds are still capable of being swayed by Objective Reality, when Leftist Educators, particularly since Obama, have deliberately programmed most of the Millennial Generation to only experience Reality Subjectively and to be charged with acting as Agents of Change.

This.

Taken out front of my daughter's high school this morning:







Homeschool your children.

Burn these festering swamps of communism to the fucken ground.

(06-16-2017 12:08 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  What do Mexicans think will happen when USA becomes latino-majority like all the regions they're fleeing from? You know, the shitty primitive places they're eager to leave.

Does it really not cross their minds ? goddamn

Yes, that's one reason why Trump got 30% of the Hispanic vote.

(06-16-2017 12:25 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 12:08 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  What do Mexicans think will happen when USA becomes latino-majority like all the regions they're fleeing from? You know, the shitty primitive places they're eager to leave.

Does it really not cross their minds ? goddamn

Damn interesting how the Asian distribution is a lot more platykurtic but at the same remains comparatively populated far into the 130+ range. Very impressive. Seeing this I actually hope that the Chinese succeed in taking over Africa.

(06-16-2017 09:15 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Could you provide an analysis of:

a) What those policies are.
b) What time frame they'll be implemented in.
c) What effect they'll have on the long term balance of power.

These are the three questions that cannot simply be answered with "Trump train!"

When Trump steps out of the Whitehouse then either he has officially made America great again or you are about to be put up against the wall.

Blind faith is not going to cut it.

Now, the question is worth asking, if he fails what is your plan B?

One major opponent is the Democratic Party, which has no figure head, no coherent message, no insight into how it lost the 2016 election, and, therefore, no single insight into how it can fix any of these.

The only other major opponent is the NeverTrump Republicans, whose message is so extraordinarily weak that it can be summarized below:

When asked for examples of Ann Coulter's violent rhetoric, she cited, "The only problem with Timothy. McVeigh is that he didn't bomb the New York Times building." and a 2006 article that said something which inspired zero violence.

When your opponents are that pathetic, simple small victories are more than enough to defeat them. Therefore, EITHER, a better form of health care, or a really good tax plan, or both is all that's necessary.

Vox Day always points out that it takes two election cycles. Brexit was the first cycle in England. Le Pen was the first in France. Wilders was the first in Holland. And Trump was the first in America.

Trump was voted in because he's a centrist mild reformer. The major right wing reformer comes next election cycle, when the population represented by my niece reaches voting age in 2020.

Deepdiver,

Since you asked about it, The PAC can be found here. https://larouchepac.com/

I haven't done any research yet but my initial impression is that they support some good ideas but might be focused too much on ideology. It doesn't seem to be a pure pro-Trump PAC, but the website supports him greatly.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

Lyndon LaRouche has been a crank on the political scene since the 60's. He's run for president a number of times, and has always been considered a fringe candidate, similar to Ron Paul.

In the past, I've mostly dismissed him, but I bet if I take the time to review his platform and writings now, I'll find a lot of them are close to my current neomasculine and nationalist beliefs. It's interesting that he has followers out in public pushing pro-Trump materials like this.

Edit: I just read some of the wiki link. He has a considerably checkered past. He's really kind of a nut job, but I imagine he was right about some things from our point of view, at least some of the time. I wouldn't contribute money to his PAC.

.....

Yeah the LaRouche people I have seen in NH tend to be either retired or unable to hold a steady job - not the RVF men of Action here who know real on the ground Game, not just game theory.

So no I would not donate to LaRouchies... will look for better active focused Defend America & CiC Trump PACs...

AManLikePutin Wrote:Yesterday evening, I was sitting on a bench at a park, sunglasses on, reading a Nassim Taleb book, as two blonde girls (6.5 territory, WB) in their early 20s came and sat at the chair nearby. They were speaking loudly, so I couldn't help but overhear their conversation.

You didn't fire back?

(06-16-2017 09:19 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Regardless of whether Trump continues cucking or rediscovers his ballsack the demographics are already baked in. Stack your cash and prepare to abandon ship. Or happily meme yourself to sleep while the ship sinks for all I care.

Yeah, but fucking where? I left the States for Europe a few years ago and it's even more liberal over here. Wasn't planning on staying, just wanted to see the lands of my ancestors before Islam takes over. Asia is a non-option given that you'll never be accepted. Australia and New Zealand are also increasingly turning liberal. So we're basically SOL - there are few places left to run. I better start learning Polish or Hungarian...

(06-16-2017 10:45 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Yesterday evening, I was sitting on a bench at a park, sunglasses on, reading a Nassim Taleb book, as two blonde girls (6.5 territory, WB) in their early 20s came and sat at the chair nearby. They were speaking loudly, so I couldn't help but overhear their conversation. During the 15 minutes that I was seated next to them (as they were eating burgers and chips, UGH). A brief summary of some of the stuff they said:

"I think if Hillary were a man and had a dick, she would have won in a landslide"

"I want a woman president. I don't care who!"

"If he (Trump) could take away all our rights, he would. I bet Melania is miserable. Their sex life must suck !"

"Women like Laura Ingraham are the reason we don't have equal rights as men and no equal pay"

"Ah, I really envy Iceland. Gay pride is like a family holiday there. Imagine! How awesome!! I'm trying to talk my boyfriend into taking me there for a trip"

"Have you seen Newt Gingrich blame Alexandria shooting on Liberals ? Typical old white man. Ha, it's your own medicine of no gun control bitch !!"

These days every time I listen to ANY group of women < 40 years gossip with each other I feel like my IQ dropped by several points just by exposure. I'm glad I'm not in the market anymore or I'd probably jump out a window. Really don't miss you young bucks...