Post: #61826

I have thought that Trump was giving Kushner so much exposure in order to familiarize the American public with him for a potential run for president for him or Ivanka. Trump clearly is very comfortable with nepotism. Kushner isn't focusing exclusively on one thing but rather bits and pieces of everything. Kind of like when a new manager is brought in to a company and has to briefly become accustomed to the entire operation and not a specific niche. It's becoming increasingly clear that the Kushners future is most likely in DC politics and not NY real estate and I don't see either Kushner being interested in being the mayor of NYC

Post: #61827

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(06-20-2016 05:42 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Let's not assume Kushner is entirely an innocent bystander and Corey Lewandowsky was just attacking Kushner out of nowhere. This is not to say that there is some Jewish conspiracy here or that Corey was in the right, but some big sites have reported that Kushner is also involved in this power struggle in a quiet manner. This is no mere rumor and hearsay, but well-documented facts. I doubt Ivanka was acting on her out, but more likely following the will of her husband. I'm not excited about Ivanka running for president as some here would. It's nice to fantasize about, but a woman is in the end a woman.

Never trusted Kushner or fascinated with Ivanka-for-president, especially since the firing Corey thing.
Recent event provides new insight to what was behind the outing of Corey.

(06-20-2016 06:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  Thanks for digging all this up. One sentence set my alarm bells off: "The younger Kushner later became the publisher of the New York Observer, a Manhattan-based newspaper read largely for its high society and real estate coverage."

The Observer is staffed by Brooklyn hipsters, some of whom get there by way of Salon.com. Also, the paper's influence has been massive in one area of our society -- and not for the better.

It's the Observer that is responsible for "Sex and the City," since it was the place Candace Bushnell published her column of that name before it was made into a TV series and movie franchise.

I'm pretty uncomfortable that someone who runs this paper (and bought it with inheritance money, no less) is now a player in the Trump campaign. I wonder if the campaign will change for the worse if Kushner becomes more influential.

Post: #61828

The upside is a good chunk of people that voted for trump are now off the trump train after this idiotic and dangerous change of foreign policy.

We will begin to judge his actions with more skepticism and not just claim everything is a chess move. In the longterm this is a good thing.

Trump does have an incredible talent of reading the crowd and tapping into the worries or what he called the "forgotten men & women", more so than any other politician. He has done this with the entire media dc establishment against him. After this sudden change in policy, which has more catastrophic consequences then many have analyzed here, Trump will lose the majority of those forgotten men and women that got him elected.

Trump did help form this coalition and bring the unmasking of the globalist corporatist power structure to the main stream. Now that he is president and has switched sides he will be protected by the same people he fought during his election campaign. The upside is that he does leave behind a pretty organized anti-globalist alliance who can mount an offensive and make their voice heard.

We need to think about a post-trump world and the new Globalist vs Nationalist dichotomy.

Post: #61829

Oh boy...
http://firekushner.com/

Post: #61830

The deep state really knew what they were doing when they got Flynn fired and put Trump on the defensive with the Russian narrative. The deep state has kicked Trump's ass in 10 dimensional tiddlywinks.

Post: #61831

Pro-Bannon and anti-Kushner twitter on fire tonight, literally, #FireKushner has been trending all night.



"centrist financiers"

"The Democrats", lol. So true.

Lastly, and I never noticed it before: Kushner's face during that emotional moment at Trump's sort-of state of the union, commending the widow's fallen husband. Look at that fucking smug grin.



I'll let mi general get the last word:

Post: #61832

(04-07-2017 09:50 PM)8ball Wrote:  The upside is a good chunk of people that voted for trump are now off the trump train after this idiotic and dangerous change of foreign policy.

We will begin to judge his actions with more skepticism and not just claim everything is a chess move. In the longterm this is a good thing.

*SNIP*

We need to think about a post-trump world and the new Globalist vs Nationalist dichotomy.

^ Agreed. The sooner we can all get comfortable with the uncomfortable idea that not everything Trump does is in our best interest, the better.

Hanlon's razor states that one should "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity," but I think the inverse is often times more accurate: Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.

It's sad that the man hasn't even been in office three whole months and we're already having to question whether he actually intends to put America first.

Post: #61833

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06...g-trump-wh

Zero Hedge Wrote:Lee Stranahan: 'Ideological Coup' By Kushner-Linked Goldman Globalists Destroying Trump White House

Weeks after the Daily Mail exposed an internal struggle between Kushner-linked Goldman Sachs operatives and Trump advisor Steve Bannon, it has become clear that an "ideological coup" led by globalist bankers is well underway - claiming populist Steve Bannon as their latest victim. This ties in with Roger Stone's warning that Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner has been leaking anti-Bannon information to MSNBC's Joe Scarborough.

Well, it appears the Goldman globalists have won... for now. Wednesday evening, former Breitbart lead investigative reporter Lee Stranahan dropped an insightful Periscope video in which he laid out exactly what's going on in the White House - pointing out who's running the show...

In a nutshell: Weeks after meeting with Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein at the Four Seasons bar in DC, Jared Kushner-friendly Goldman alums have successfully maneuvered Trump's top advisor Steve Bannon off the Natl. Security Council - further strengthening the globalist cabal's influence over President Trump. Jared Kushner, it should be pointed out, has a well documented history of donating to Democrats; including Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer (D-NY), and Robert Mendez (D-NJ).

Post: #61834

I'm guessing this refers to Trump himself.
Big if true.

Post: #61835

President Trump's weakness for his daughter is the real problem here. As we all should know, women are followers. I've seen it plenty of times in my own life, where a girl I'm seeing for awhile pivots to believe in many of the things I believe, without consciously realizing what she's doing. I've seen it in female family members too.

Ivanka may be smart and all but she's still a woman. So she's going to be influenced heavily by Kushner, and that gives him a dangerous lever to use on President Trump, because the poison is delivered through someone Trump trusts. I doubt his son in law alone could sway him that much without Ivanka so heavily involved.

I doubt there's anything to be done about it. Ivanka isn't going anywhere, as much as I'd like to see her packed off to NYC. The combination of her bleeding heart sensibilities and Kushner's idiocy is extremely dangerous.

Post: #61836

Imagine being in the navy on that warship, years of training and technical knowledge, knowing you have a goddamn apartment landlord jew Kushner directing your life, as if he's more qualified than you in any way. He should be making sure his complexes are sprayed for bugs before summer, yet he's starting WW3. Unbelievable.

Post: #61837

Post: #61838

(04-07-2017 11:17 PM)weambulance Wrote:  President Trump's weakness for his daughter is the real problem here. As we all should know, women are followers. I've seen it plenty of times in my own life, where a girl I'm seeing for awhile pivots to believe in many of the things I believe, without consciously realizing what she's doing. I've seen it in female family members too.

Ivanka may be smart and all but she's still a woman. So she's going to be influenced heavily by Kushner, and that gives him a dangerous lever to use on President Trump, because the poison is delivered through someone Trump trusts. I doubt his son in law alone could sway him that much without Ivanka so heavily involved.

I doubt there's anything to be done about it. Ivanka isn't going anywhere, as much as I'd like to see her packed off to NYC. The combination of her bleeding heart sensibilities and Kushner's idiocy is extremely dangerous.

See my earlier post about reversing the Hanlon's razor aphorism -- I wouldn't attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice. Kushner's no good, and has subverted Trump's MAGA platform.

Post: #61839

Can't blame Kushner. We all have free will, Donnie is supposed to be such an alpha, it's on him.

Post: #61840

(04-07-2017 11:47 PM)DeusVult Wrote:  Can't blame Kushner. We all have free will, Donnie is supposed to be such an alpha, it's on him.

Post: #61841

Trump needs to make his own decisions, that's a fact. But I'm not going to absolve Kushner of guilt. This whole situation tells me one of two things:

1.) Trump has a horrible blind spot when it comes to Kushner.

or

2.) Trump is complicit in Kushner's machinations.

I'm sincerely hoping for the former, 'cause we're fucked if it's the latter. Something or someone needs to wake Trump up. And fast. It's a disgrace to see that pencil dick Kushner's role in this administration keep expanding whilst Steve Bannon gets relegated to the fucking kid's table.

Post: #61842

I wonder if Kushner has a ton of game. To me, it looks like this guy was groomed by his dad to infiltrate a family like the Trump's and use them to make billions. He just lucked into the president's office.

Post: #61843

(04-07-2017 11:47 PM)DeusVult Wrote:  Can't blame Kushner. We all have free will, Donnie is supposed to be such an alpha, it's on him.

Agreed. Like I've said before, Kushners are gonna Kushner. He's just looking out for the interests of himself and/or his tribe, nothing wrong or surprising about that.

WTF is Trump doing though? The guy was talking sense as recently as a few weeks ago. I don't think there is anything Kushner could tell me, for example, that would make me change my mind on a topic like immigration, trade, or middle eastern adventures, unless he drugs me or hypnotizes me or something. My mind is simply made up on those things. Now, he could very well offer me a "deal I can't refuse" but that's an entirely separate thing from actually changing my mind.

So what about Trump, then? Are we to believe that Kushner actually bona fide convinced Trump that making a 180 deg turn from his election promises and invading the middle east again is actually the best way to MAGA? If so, Trump is a halfwit retard who shouldn't be in charge of a public toilet, let alone the country. Are we really saying that Trump hears Bannon in the morning and wants to MAGA, then Ivanka and Kushner swing by for afternoon crumpets and it's back to "invade the world invite the world" after a brief chat? And that this back and forth waffling inside Trump's head has been going on for months? The fuck..if that's how it's actually playing out then our man is senile.

Post: #61844

I suppose we'll see what happens next, and we'll be able to better determine exactly how far President Trump is going to let himself be manipulated by people he trusts once he sees the backlash of their shitty advice.

On a tangent, I saw a funny comment about Calexit over at Hacker News just a few minutes ago. It seems there's talk of Scotland joining Canada, and some guy posted this about California leaving the US since it came up:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14065236

Quote:Calexit scares me because it's effectively abandoning the country; California can survive much more than the rest of the country can. It might be unfair to place that burden on California, sure, but it seem indisputable that leaving would destabilize the remaining United States in many ways - which won't be good for either Californians or anyone else. What's to stop New York, for instance, from also leaving once it realizes that the 50/50 red/blue balance is permanently gone? And what is a US without California and New York, on the world stage? Is it still treated like the US?

The process of figuring that out, and perhaps of Canada becoming the world's great superpower (with California and with the bordering state of New York) and essentially needing to disarm a terrified and well-armed US, seems like it cannot possibly be a better plan than California just getting the US to do what it wants in approximately any other way. No one will win except Raytheon and Palantir.

And even if it doesn't get that bad, I would expect a US without California to leave both NATO and NAFTA, either out of spite, out of a clear dominance of the political voices that are currently NATO-skeptic and NAFTA-skeptic (but are being held in check by California's votes), or out of simply not having enough of an economy left where either of them make sense.

Amusing to see how blinkered some people are. Plenty of people in tech think that way. Yep, the whole fucking universe revolves around California and NY, guys. Canada as the world's superpower! Ha, I find new things to laugh at every time I read that idiocy.

Post: #61845

Most likely scenario?

Trump was informes that if he didn't do this he would get JFKed and Pence would start the war anyway.

Post: #61846

So the "world's greatest alpha male," the "best deal maker ever," is now absolved because his kid's husband, an establishment Jew, "influenced" him?

Give me a break. He can defeat the elitist globalist political machine and their perfectly groomed candidate, but has met his match in some puke named Jared Kushner?

Is he or is he not the president? The blame rests at his feet.

Post: #61847

President Trump isn't omniscient, and he can't do the jobs of hundreds or thousands of people by himself. At some point he needs to trust people to feed him good information and advice so he can make informed decisions. And if he trusts the wrong people, he's going to do what he thinks is right based on bad information.

It's up to him to make sure he's surrounding himself with trustworthy people. That's looking like it's a lot more difficult to do than I thought it would be, frankly.

Post: #61848

Can we draft Mike Cernovich to be Senior White House Advisor?

Surely we can get a couple of hundred signatures on the WH petition page.

Right now the government is basically fucking over every American under 35. We need Guerilla Mindset and
someone with experience in this area to represent us. Someone who is willing to fight, has experience in law, media relations and
isn't a rich cucked ivy league graduate.

Average age of tv/newspaper consumer is like what 70? How does fox news represent anything I care about?

Young People Demand A Voice in the Gernotacracy.

And make sure he has enough clearance and access to get shit done too.

ETA We don't really know whats going on in the government, considering the media is either inept or lying or both and the rest is via calculated leaks. Furthermore, even if we did what influence do the deplorable have? Trump is a lot more popular among young people then the msm implies.
Mike Cernovich is the one man in the front who has made our voice heard and can get shit done.

Post: #61849

Two periscopes.

First, Jack Posobiec speculates that Trump made a deal with Putin to reign in Assad using this Tomahawk strike. He bases this on the facts that Russia could've shot down a majority of the incoming Tomahawk missiles, but didn't fire upon any.

Russia, he says, is mostly interested in maintaining its very large navy base in Syria. So Trump could've leveraged a deal allowing Russia to do so.

He also says that, thanks to idiots like Louise Mensch, President Trump can't possibly declare that any such deal has been made. Russia’s expected public response, if such a deal were made, would be to decry the Tomahawk strike, without doing anything forceful.

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Second, John Wick of Politics (Adam Gingrich) thinks the FireKushner idea is incredibly stupid and destructive, because Trump isn't going to side with Bannon over Kushner. He said, "If you really hate Bannon and want to see him fired, tweet the FireKushner hashtag, and also call the White House to complain about the growing incite) influence of Gary Kohn and Dina Powell."

He supports the Tomahawk strike, saying, "If you can't support the President bombing a nearly empty airfield, then the number of things you can support him on is going to be really small."

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My personal non-expert opinion is that Posobiec is 100% correct, and that John Wick of Politics is plausibly correct.

Post: #61850

Yeah, Cernovich would be great. Instead of tweeting to rile up the media he could just challenge everyone who speaks against him to a boxing match, and require anyone who wants to debate him to pony up $10 million (adjusted for his new prestigious position) before he'll show up.