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Is Japan’s Sexless Present America’s Sexual Future?
From Playboy's Twitter:

https://twitter.com/Playboy/status/608211945536290817

http://www.playboy.com/articles/no-sex-p...e-japanese

Quote:...and thus began a whirlwind of dates, gifts, selfies, chats, e-mails, compliments and sweet murmurs of “I love you,” which she once asked him to repeat publicly a hundred times. Meanwhile, she provided support, encouragement and her own professions of love. Then came the PDA and Rinko flaunting herself in a bikini and the boy gently touching her, as teenage boys are wont to do. And then…nothing. The affection never progressed to sex, and there was a good reason it didn’t: Manaka, Nene and Rinko weren’t real girls. They were digital cartoons in a dating-simulation game called Love Plus: The romantic high school sophomore was an avatar.

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Read the Japan thread. RVF guys in Japan are anything but sexless.
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(06-09-2015 07:45 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  Read the Japan thread. RVF guys in Japan are anything but sexless.

Look at the big picture.

RVF guys in a Japan are a decided minority.

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It already is, 80% of the men aren't getting anything but left swipes. We just have our PC culture that would go crazy if we had any of the alternatives that Japanese men can go to. I do remember hearing about a cuddling app that was gaining popularity though so we could be on our way.
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At Japan Today is some similar article

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Quote:Takashi Sakai is a healthy 41-year-old heterosexual man with a good job and a charming smile. But he’s never had sex, one of a growing number of middle-aged Japanese men who are still virgins.

“I’ve never had a girlfriend. It’s never happened,” he said. “It’s not like I’m not interested. I admire women. But I just cannot get on the right track.”

A 2010 survey by the National Institute of Population and Social Security Research found that around a quarter of unmarried Japanese men in their 30s were still virgins

In the 2010 survey quoted above, 68% of 18-19-year-olds in Japan said they were virgins; a study carried out that year in Europe by condom maker Durex found virginity rates among those aged 15-20 were much lower.

For example, fewer than 20% of young Germans had not had sex by the time they hit 20, while even in socially conservative Turkey, the figure was only 37%.

“In today’s Japan, we have no place to learn about sex or how to form a romantic relationship,” he said.

Decades ago, rigid social mores helped shepherd growing adults through the key stages of life, Sakatsume told AFP.

But nowadays, “it is now all up to each individual to find a potential partner and negotiate for sex”.

Seems like a lack of personal initiative.
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Sexless at 41? Dude get a hooker, what else are you waiting for? Lol
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Meh the problem's been discussed in all the other threads; this is disturbing but it's nothing new really.

I'd like to echo that 'RVFers are not indicative'. Men like Scotch who are assertively chasing bulk tail get a enormously different outcome to the average Japanese guy who is 'waiting for something to happen'. In the age of pre-marital sex, there are the 1% men at the top banging multiple new girls a week, then below them the guys who manage to meet and hold onto a girlfriend, then below them the bulk of men who are going without sex for years.

The reason this continues is basically outright evil and stupidity. The powers that be don't mind that they are living in an office like good little robots, releasing their sexual drive into tissues in front of anime porn, and from time to time standing in hordes in a club 'waiting for something to happen'.

One of the most bullshit lines in Japan is 'this is how it is done in Japan', as though that's a rebuttal to criticism. This line is used to strike down any challenge to the unstoppable robotic machine that constitutes much of their culture, regardless of any obvious destructive pathologies present. To it I generally respond 'should it be? and has it always been?'. It at least flickers a moment of independent thought in their heads.
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(06-09-2015 11:07 PM)Asnluver Wrote:  Sexless at 41? Dude get a hooker, what else are you waiting for? Lol

A man is responsible for his own sex life. Nobody is going to give him access to pussy. He has to go get it. Find out where it is and go. If it takes a hooker or two to get over the hump so be it.
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I think the future is somewhere between the hedonism and nihilism of Brave New World and the sexbots of Blade Runner.
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No. I don't think the waifu will ever be as big here.

Truthfully I don't see a western country becoming like Japan.
Because Japan is populated by a homogeneous group of people with very strong impulse control.
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(06-10-2015 01:12 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  No. I don't think the waifu will ever be as big here.

Truthfully I don't see a western country becoming like Japan.
Because Japan is populated by a homogeneous group of people with very strong impulse control.


Have you been to Japan dude? Would you say a group of people with impulse control would need women only train cars? (because of a groping problem [ https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=japan+...10&bih=567 ]) Or would find drunk passed out salarymen on the street or anywhere outside and consider it "whatever" also a sign of good impulse control? ( http://tokyodesu.com/2014/06/10/gallery-...mpilation/ )

But girls in Japan won't be chasing down the guy in public anytime soon hoping to be invaded by his white jelly so that she can make a Mini Me of whoever.
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I've said it in other threads, but I think part of the problem with many Japanese dudes is that they work 6-days a week for almost 12 hours a day, don't exercise, and eat crap (but don't gain too much weight because they eat it in smaller amounts that westerners). Thus, their testosterone levels drop way down, so they aren't motivated to get out and learn how to create attraction in women. They'll make some awkward passes at the office ladies in their company, but after they get humiliatingly shot down they give up on it. I've seen this happen several times.

That doesn't explain it completely, however, because online dating, dating services, and match-making events are plentiful, especially for company men in Tokyo. These dudes just can't get into it, for whatever reason. So, the Japanese players with game can really clean up.
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(06-10-2015 04:09 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:  I've said it in other threads, but I think part of the problem with many Japanese dudes is that they work 6-days a week for almost 12 hours a day, don't exercise, and eat crap (but don't gain too much weight because they eat it in smaller amounts that westerners). Thus, their testosterone levels drop way down, so they aren't motivated to get out and learn how to create attraction in women. They'll make some awkward passes at the office ladies in their company, but after they get humiliatingly shot down they give up on it. I've seen this happen several times.

That doesn't explain it completely, however, because online dating, dating services, and match-making events are plentiful, especially for company men in Tokyo. These dudes just can't get into it, for whatever reason. So, the Japanese players with game can really clean up.

Exactly. You have similar culture in Germany now and this is one of the reasons that birth rates are now tanking there.

Anyone with a modicum of Game can do well in Germany or even Austria now - Daygame is unheard of with most women and Nightgame for men means standing in the back or at the most ordering some drinks for girls. Even attractive girls there tell me stories of them going to night clubs for 3 nights and not getting approached once.

So of course any guy with decent Game goes out and comes back with 10-20 numbers or even some makeups/ one night stands. Among the blind, the one man who has eyes is king.
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Not another one of these threads again...

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(06-10-2015 04:09 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:  These dudes just can't get into it, for whatever reason. So, the Japanese players with game can really clean up.


Well that and they can just pay for it/go to Thailand. (Prostitution for Japanese people is pretty much legal, easily accessed and expected.)
Germany has a similar issue with prostitution, it's legal(Unless something changed recently.) and easily accessible.

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Pretty sad situation overall.
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Technically from a genetics perspective...

nearly all of their red pill men died during WWII ...

95% of the Japanese men you see that are under 50 are products of a blue pill filled gene pool form after the war.

Technically from a Social perspective ... it is easier and more hassle free to be single than be married/attached (same shit in USA ) : feminist laws and stuff.

Those who say that " it is a cultural thing" are just either delusional or brainwashed , maybe both, and definitely lack independent thinking skills of any sort imho.
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(06-12-2015 12:31 PM)KTK Wrote:  Technically from a genetics perspective...

nearly all of their red pill men died during WWII ...

95% of the Japanese men you see that are under 50 are products of a blue pill filled gene pool form after the war.

Makes sense. Hard to believe what was once one of the most feared and respected empires in World history now has men marrying video game characters and eyeball licking fetishes.
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I remember walking through Osaka, and even Kyoto, and I saw plenty of guys who were doing fine for themselves. Japan probably has a significant number of their version of "neck-beards" but it's a minority. It is still a fairly traditional society, with plenty of people marrying and having children.

Point is, there will always be people who deviate from the norm. Perhaps they have psychological hang-ups that they can't get over. Or maybe they're reaching too high and don't fully accept their own value. In any case, I don't think they represent the norm. The norm is doing just fine in the majority of the world. We always just tend to focus on the weirdos and deviants, because they're more fun to talk about.
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(06-12-2015 12:49 PM)kerouac Wrote:  I remember walking through Osaka, and even Kyoto, and I saw plenty of guys who were doing fine for themselves. Japan probably has a significant number of their version of "neck-beards" but it's a minority. It is still a fairly traditional society, with plenty of people marrying and having children.

Point is, there will always be people who deviate from the norm. Perhaps they have psychological hang-ups that they can't get over. Or maybe they're reaching too high and don't fully accept their own value. In any case, I don't think they represent the norm. The norm is doing just fine in the majority of the world. We always just tend to focus on the weirdos and deviants, because they're more fun to talk about.

I like your take on it, Kerouac.

Their society no longer forces people to breed, so the dregs of the gene pool (let's be honest with ourselves) are dying out. Sort of like a self-selecting eugenics project. I'm optimistic about the results. It's also worth asking how large of a population Japan really needs, many say that it's overpopulated.

It's a shame the welfare state has prevented this from happening in Britain, that other overpopulated little island. It's mostly average, middling people who don't have kids. People on £25k-£45k, working in offices, addicted to the middle class holiday-shopping-restaurants lifestyle that they just couldn't afford with kids. Kids would call the bluff on their 'fancy' lifestyles, and they'd be counting pennies, worried about how much longer their shoes will last, etc. I predict class-based society will return with a vengeance in 50+ years as the lower middle class just completely fail to breed.
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(06-12-2015 12:41 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  
(06-12-2015 12:31 PM)KTK Wrote:  Technically from a genetics perspective...

nearly all of their red pill men died during WWII ...

95% of the Japanese men you see that are under 50 are products of a blue pill filled gene pool form after the war.

Makes sense. Hard to believe what was once one of the most feared and respected empires in World history now has men marrying video game characters and eyeball licking fetishes.

To their defense, the eyeball licking was a fabricated hoax propagated by the unwitting Western media, who'd rather die than verify a source as most of their rumors are sourced in gossip. When you look up that story, you will see how many outlets made fools of themselves.

http://www.snopes.com/media/goofs/eyeballlicking.asp

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Actually, the future is bright!

With the changing demographics, and America becoming more Hispanic, I can't see why the country will become sexless. Hispanics have sex at a much higher rate than whites or blacks.

I'm paraphrasing Tuthmosis where he talked about how if enough Mexican people come, maybe Americans might finally learn something about how to keep their cunty women in check. Because them Mexican dudes don't fuck around with bitches who can't cook, attention-whore, or come at them with "slick" mouths, feminist bullshit, or "open relationships." There is no such thing as child-support, campus rape crisis, or any of that shit in Mexico.

Don't sweat it guys, the future is bright.


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To be frank, I disagree. Considering the rates of single motherhood in the hispanic population I am not holding my breath.
So obviously this control is breaking down somewhere.

But back to Japan. I found the culprit. or accomplice.
Keep in mind, this is a strategy game series and you can do this with a female character. 6:14 or just look at the thumbnail.


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(06-12-2015 03:19 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  To be frank, I disagree. Considering the rates of single motherhood in the hispanic population I am not holding my breath.
So obviously this control is breaking down somewhere.

Hispanic women also have high levels of obesity as well.
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(06-12-2015 03:12 PM)MidWest Wrote:  Because them Mexican dudes don't fuck around with bitches who can't cook, attention-whore, or come at them with "slick" mouths, feminist bullshit, or "open relationships." There is no such thing as child-support, campus rape crisis, or any of that shit in Mexico.

This Mexico place sounds incredible! Can I go there?

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