Post: #1

It's common knowledge that hoes gonna be hoes, but what really surprises me is how open these women are about their habits. She posts this AND still manages to show her face/name on her social media profiles.

I got this from the finance blog Wall Street Oasis, but it led back to this original post.

Quote:So I had a good ask about what I mean when I said the wealth scale. The wealth scale is how you can determine how much someone SHOULD be able to AFFORD and where they fit in your hustle.

As you know we have two hustles:

a) Sugar Dating

b) Spoiled Girlfriend Dating

Now you meet a sugar daddy who claims he can’t do allowances; and can only take you to nice hotels and dinners and buy you gifts . hmmmmm.



My key focus has always been bankers, traders, venture capitalists, hedge fund managers and all things finance so let review the payscale that someone successful in a front office revenue generating division at an investment bank or hedge fund SHOULD earn. I’m more shit with medical but finance is me. Fucking bankers is my ‘thing’, you know.



Level 1 - Analyst : When a person first graduates from their Ivy league and walks into Goldman Sachs they are called analysts;. Whether they are mergers and acquisitions analysts, equity capital market analysts, sales and trading anaysts they are analysts.

Salary: At firms such as Goldman sachs Analysts at age 22 fresh out of college earn about $60,000/£40,000 BASE. Bonuses vary but usually $40,000ish (my friends got that). Let that sink in.. There are 22-26 year olds on Wall Street making $60,000-$100,000 a year. Let that sink in because it will let you realise that requiring a lot from a man in his 40′s is nothing. There are 24 year olds on Wall Street earning 6 figures okay ?!

SOURCE http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...laries-20-

These men will eventually become V.P&’s and M.D's if your goal is to live in Chappaqua and have a Hampton home and be a house wife TARGET THESE MEN. DATE THEM SERIOUSLY AND AIM TO BECOME A WIFE. You have no reason to even sugar if this is your goal. FOCUS ON MEETING THESE MEN YOUNG. These men will get you nice presents and gifts, dinners etc but no cash.



Level 2: Associates & V.Ps: This is the stage after business school. Most men in IB will work for a few years, go to business school them come back and work as associates and eventually V.P’s. Most of these men are between 27-37.

These men earn a good 6 figure income, the best of them are usually married at this point to their hunnie they met at business school or whatever. But many are still single.

These men are only 27-37 which means you can find a 32 year old to give you a pampered girlfriend lifestyle. I always say if my goal was hotels and dinner I could find a banker in his 30′s; and THESE are the men I am talking about. I meet so many.

If you aren’t focused on the cash side of things but more want to be SPOILED. THESE. ARE. YOUR. MEN. They are young, hot and RICH. They’ll show you the luxury life, treat you well but they are usually at the stage where they don’t give big allowances. If you are single you also have the chance of MARRYING one. These men are the GOAT. THE top. The best. Because unlike daddies the chances of it leading to marriage (i.e more $$$$ is far higher). They are more attractive also…

The downside is these men are usually not online so you will meet them via freestyling or via a matchmaker. Many men at this stage want to settle down so often seek help of high end matchmakers….



If you want more info on matchmakers…tell Me. I could write a post…



Level 3: MD.s & Partners: If you meet a man who claims to or as an investment banker , is in his 40’s and says he earns $150,000 RUN. RUN. RUN.

Any investment banker worth his weight earns between $3000,000-$500.000 atleast a year by his 40’s! This is where you can catch out A LOT of these frauds.

Being named partner at a top firm means a $900000 salary, before bonuses. LET THAT SINK IN.

I am a lot more strict with men in their 40’s and 50’s because I KNOW that by 40 a man who claims to be a sugar daddy/successful SHOULD be earning a certain amount. NO if’s not buts. If they are not successful then they have no place trying to be sugar daddies.

These men have the most disposable income so aim for as much as you can get but just always remind yourself that you could date a 30 year old for treats and & nice hotels. These men if they can be bothered CAN afford to fund your tuition (the whole reason SA was created!), your plastic surgery and rent. Be TOUGH on these men.

While you can be soft with the younger ones BE TOUGHER with these men because unless they are FRAUDS. THEY. HAVE. MONEY. And unless you have a genuine silver fox fetish and really just like the guy try and get as much you can from these older men.

If you meet a man who earns $500,000 a year expects you as a 22 year old college student to fuck him for free and prove yourself to him all for dinner and a few hotels trips and drops the ‘not an ATM’ line remind yourself that you can date someone YOUNGER IN HIS TEAM if all you want is some shoes, mmkay ?!

They are grown enough to act accordingly.

I personally do not have a silver fox fetish, my favorite men are men in their 20′s and 30′s. So if I am having sex with a 50 year old banker he MUST give me something a 30 year old banker can’t give me.

This should be a legit hustle.

If your goal is never to work a day in your life, get married and pampered but not get cash aim for analysts and associates. If your aim to to save for that business, school, get ya rent pain blah blah partners and M’Ds and don’t let them even try and play the analyst role. They can afford otherwise.



Warmest,

Thotianna

Post: #2

Hoe or not, I have to give her props for a very logical, well thought out approach to the hustle.

Post: #3

She is what she is, a conniving gold digging whore.

What excuse do the men have for forking over their money to spend time with something like this? I don't understand why some guys get involved in sponsorship/sugar daddy roles. If someone wants to go that route just hire an escort. It's cheaper in the long run. Sugar Daddy is taking on half the negatives of being married (constant financial drain) and not to mention you have to share her nasty pussy with probably half a dozen ghetto alpha baby daddy or boyfriends behind the scenes.

I blame her a lot less because her scheming and financial motivation is readily apparent. I blame the simps who shower whores like this with money. They deserve the inevitable consequences.

Post: #4

Winder how old she is.

Depreciating assets and all.

Post: #5

Relevent:

Post: #6

(06-08-2015 11:01 PM)Daddy Wrote:  Relevent:

The fat one on the right looks like she'd take christmas hams for sex in lieu of cash.

Post: #7

Here's the future for most hoes, not the Hamptons:

Post: #8

She's giving her fellow whores and gold diggers some good info, but it's not complete. She really should be telling them exactly how to respond to the different things that their targets say, kind of like how we do here on this forum. Of course, most women aren't used to taking as systematic an approach to problem solving like men do, so it's understandable that her advice would be so vague.

Post: #9

Don't you guys think Thotianna sounds like Eastern European? If it so, then no surprising.

Post: #10

(06-09-2015 12:07 AM)djk100 Wrote:  Don't you guys think Thotianna sounds like Eastern European? If it so, then no surprising.

she's black.

Post: #11

(06-08-2015 11:18 PM)rawhide Wrote:  Here's the future for most hoes, not the Hamptons:

Ha! I've drove by this place many times, but had to look it up to make sure. Never been in there, and never will. Can do better on my own!

Post: #12

(06-09-2015 12:07 AM)djk100 Wrote:  Don't you guys think Thotianna sounds like Eastern European? If it so, then no surprising.

Google "thot" and get back to us.

Post: #13

Like Cersei Lannister once said, 'A woman's greatest weapon is between her legs.'

Post: #14

Even before Thotiana came up, I knew she was black. She gave the hmm when she mentition men just giving out hotels and dinners. As if to say that not how the game goes. Second, GOAT= Greatest Of All Time is a dead giveaway. Lastly, when she said she goes soft on the younger guys while acting hard on the oldest guys.

Post: #15

Although I hate to say it, from a purely informational standpoint, while vague, her data is unfortunately a great complement to my Corporate Finance datasheets.

Post: #16

And you wonder why successful guys pay for hookers. At that level it's cheaper to rent than date.

At that level you can't hide who you are and what you do. You're a legit man. Prime target for these opportunistic predators.

Post: #17

And this is why game can you help regardless of income. Any player would know that she's trying to control the frame there and that it would be mistake to let her. He's letting her manipulate him from the first text exchange. The best way to protect against these bitches is to have firm boundaries(frame), like for example 'never spend more than X$ on the first date', 'never go more than 3 dates before sex', etc. and be ready to follow through on them. If all men did, these bitches would be out of a job and would have to actually work for a living. I see no shame in using high end escorts as a highly stressed, overworked and paid professional but I see tons of it in getting manipulated by washed up whores for 4 to 7 figure sums in exchange for the illusion of love.

Post: #18

Interesting read. Greed is a powerful motivator.

I can't say I'm surprised. Girls have been sharing their secrets and strategies with each other for centuries. The digital age just makes it easier to find (and for men to discover) and at times more "shocking" to outsiders.

Post: #19

I've met a lot of guys with serious wealth (doctors, financiers, entrepreneurs, inherited wealth, etc.) and a lot of them are very blue pill about women. Especially those guys who are less attractive and have weak game. The unattractive, no-game dudes have often been ignored by girls their entire life and believe now that they have money, girls are going to love them. Many of them end up getting played by gold diggers, who use them for their wealth and cheat with other guys on the side. Lots of these guys end up getting divorced raped too by their trophy wives.

Another problem is that even if the girl doesn't cheat on you, she's going to be very high maintenance and expect to have you cater to her every whim. At least when you're gaming the girl or winning her with your looks, you're in control. When you use your money to buy affection, she'll have the power in the relationship.

Now obviously not every dude is going to be capable of succeeding in the sexual market. There are a few guys here who do the whole sugar daddy thing and are happy with it. While I personally would recommend against going this route, I understand that there are guys who like the idea. My point is that if you're going to do this, be wary of these sugar babies and understand that they're very cunning. Lots of guys go on these sugar daddy sites like Seeking Arrangement, then up being psychologically manipulated and financially scammed by these whores. If you want to have a "relationship" with a sugar baby, understand that she's no different from a hooker or escort. You're not "dating" her, you're paying her. There are other guys paying her too.

Post: #20

(06-09-2015 07:49 AM)BlueOcean Wrote:  I've met a lot of guys with serious wealth (doctors, financiers, entrepreneurs, inherited wealth, etc.) and a lot of them are very blue pill about women. Especially those guys who are less attractive and have weak game. The unattractive, no-game dudes have often been ignored by girls their entire life and believe now that they have money, girls are going to love them. Many of them end up getting played by gold diggers, who use them for their wealth and cheat with other guys on the side. Lots of these guys end up getting divorced raped too by their trophy wives.

I've seen this all to often. I'm amazed that a guy that is totally in control of things at his company allows himself to be so easily controlled by a woman. If he comes from new money and wasn't good with girls when he was younger, he's meat for the grinder for gold diggers.

For you guys trying to play the gold diggers, this gives you great information. If you're younger (below mid 30s) you will NOT have to pay for any gold digger. Just say you're in finance at the proper level she described and they will be looking to girlfriend you. For those of us in our 40s or higher. They'll want to be straight hookers and expect something.

I'm not sure I agree about her assertion that NYC finance guys in their 30s are going to matchmakers, but I could be wrong. I'm curious why she hasn't already been married one or twice, gotten large payouts and "retired" to the Hamptons. Perhaps she has and wants to give back. It's also really interesting that most blogs/forums where girls talk about gold digger game are by black women.

Post: #21

Fuk it - like some other posters have said, props to her for utilizing a coherent strategy with end goals in mind.

If you're gonna be a whore, might as well strive to be at the top of the pyramid.

Post: #22

(06-09-2015 08:05 AM)markygras Wrote:  Fuk it - like some other posters have said, props to her for utilizing a coherent strategy with end goals in mind.

If you're gonna be a whore, might as well strive to be at the top of the pyramid.

It one thing if they're targeting successful men with the intent of marriage and doing the family thing. It's the straight up unrepentant whorish aspect I have a problem with.

Post: #23

(06-09-2015 08:07 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:05 AM)markygras Wrote:  Fuk it - like some other posters have said, props to her for utilizing a coherent strategy with end goals in mind.

If you're gonna be a whore, might as well strive to be at the top of the pyramid.

It one thing if they're targeting successful men with the intent of marriage and doing the family thing. It's the straight up unrepentant whorish aspect I have a problem with.

But that's the problem isn't it. What she doesn't mention is how few guys in NYC in fiance are making the $500k or $900k in their 30s she talks about. And she doesn't mention how many girls from good families are chasing these guys. The reality for these gold diggers is that they can't rely solely on catching a soon to be wealthy guy. They need to be a whore on the side to be sure to end up with something. Remember, these girls are looking for the very tiny % of socially retarded millionaires.

Post: #24

(06-09-2015 08:03 AM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 07:49 AM)BlueOcean Wrote:  I've met a lot of guys with serious wealth (doctors, financiers, entrepreneurs, inherited wealth, etc.) and a lot of them are very blue pill about women. Especially those guys who are less attractive and have weak game. The unattractive, no-game dudes have often been ignored by girls their entire life and believe now that they have money, girls are going to love them. Many of them end up getting played by gold diggers, who use them for their wealth and cheat with other guys on the side. Lots of these guys end up getting divorced raped too by their trophy wives.

I've seen this all to often. I'm amazed that a guy that is totally in control of things at his company allows himself to be so easily controlled by a woman. If he comes from new money and wasn't good with girls when he was younger, he's meat for the grinder for gold diggers.

Yep.

Quote:For you guys trying to play the gold diggers, this gives you great information. If you're younger (below mid 30s) you will NOT have to pay for any gold digger. Just say you're in finance at the proper level she described and they will be looking to girlfriend you. For those of us in our 40s or higher. They'll want to be straight hookers and expect something.

Even younger guys end up paying a lot and get cheated on. The difference is that a lot of these younger guys are single, so the girl can at least pretend to be his "girlfriend." With the older dudes, usually they're married. So these girls become p4p mistresses. The older guys are also richer and make more lucrative targets.

To be fair, some of these girls do want to be trophy wives. That's typically when they're in the late 20s and done with their partying phase, so they're not going to target younger financiers. For these girls, guys in their late 20s and early/mid 30s are the target. A lot of them do get wifed up and live very charmed lives.

I think one generational change is that mistresses used to stay at least somewhat faithful to their sugar daddy. These days women are so sexually driven that even a paid girl will still fool around on the side. Alpha fucks, beta bucks.

Post: #25

(06-09-2015 08:03 AM)Gringuito Wrote:  It's also really interesting that most blogs/forums where girls talk about gold digger game are by black women.

There is a much higher percentage of black women on SA when compared to the overall population as well. In some cities I would say they constitute over 50% of the available women.

They are also far more demanding and up front about what they expect on average than white girls.

Latina's seem to have a relatively high proportion as well, yet are nowhere near as demanding as their black sisters.