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Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
There is no reason, because this is not reasonable or logical. Men bring way more values to the table than women in this society, they should be approaching us instead if it were all about reason and logic.

There is just reality: women simply do not approach men who are not famous, infamous (evil), wealthy or much better looking than they are. If you want women and you're not in those categories, you must approach.

A lot of Game newbies tend to be STEM introverts who are often stuck on the must have reason for everything overanalytical mindset. Drop that and just do what works.

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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
in case your wondering my age, i'm 27, ya i'm often bitter and resentful, jealous of people that got to experience dating, relationships, and sex in their late teens and early 20's, the more innocent years, I feel i'll probably always feel that way towards people that arrived to the party early while I was very late to the party, even if I ever make it to the party by fixing my issues with women, if I ever do.
06-09-2015 03:53 PM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
I can relate to Wolverine right here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdqYUnHpQm0
06-10-2015 01:02 AM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
i will admit, there are times I feel like beating up a man, punching his lights out if he dares to question my masculinity in public by telling me to "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow some Balls", I feel like making him squeal like a puppy as I break his fuckin' neck.
06-10-2015 02:14 AM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
Because we carry within us the seeds of life, and life is active not passive, women are just vessels for them.

I like the old saying in my country, men are boats while women are ports.

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06-10-2015 02:30 AM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
if more people just admitted what Elliot Hulse said in the first page on this thread, that the Sperm goes after the Egg, then that would make it easier to accept and deal with, and if people just admitted that women are the choosers, not the men, that sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive, then it would be easier to remove the bitterness and resentment, and if getting laid is a skill that can be learned, not something you are instinctively, innately, naturally born how to do, that would give me hope and inspiration.
06-10-2015 03:26 AM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
(06-10-2015 03:26 AM)BronzeAgeGuy713 Wrote:  if more people just admitted what Elliot Hulse said in the first page on this thread, that the Sperm goes after the Egg, then that would make it easier to accept and deal with, and if people just admitted that women are the choosers, not the men, that sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive, then it would be easier to remove the bitterness and resentment, and if getting laid is a skill that can be learned, not something you are instinctively, innately, naturally born how to do, that would give me hope and inspiration.

This goes back to the currently hot debate on Roosh article "Evo psychology do not apply to modern human beings"

With all the advance of condoms of pills, all the cost-calculation related to eggs and sperms are render obsolete and redundant. The proof is that modern female humans are MUCH more promiscuous than male, which is rarely found in similar mammals.

If anything sex has gotten less and less natural nowadays.

Similarly, survival of the fittest is out of the question because government and society ensures that all genes survive, and handicapped and unfit members can easily survive past adulthood.

In the end, just believe whatever it is that works for you. If you get laid by believing that all women are sluts, thats none of my business and fine by me.

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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
(06-10-2015 03:51 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  
(06-10-2015 03:26 AM)BronzeAgeGuy713 Wrote:  if more people just admitted what Elliot Hulse said in the first page on this thread, that the Sperm goes after the Egg, then that would make it easier to accept and deal with, and if people just admitted that women are the choosers, not the men, that sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive, then it would be easier to remove the bitterness and resentment, and if getting laid is a skill that can be learned, not something you are instinctively, innately, naturally born how to do, that would give me hope and inspiration.

This goes back to the currently hot debate on Roosh article "Evo psychology do not apply to modern human beings"

With all the advance of condoms of pills, all the cost-calculation related to eggs and sperms are render obsolete and redundant. The proof is that modern female humans are MUCH more promiscuous than male, which is rarely found in similar mammals.

If anything sex has gotten less and less natural nowadays.

Similarly, survival of the fittest is out of the question because government and society ensures that all genes survive, and handicapped and unfit members can easily survive past adulthood.

In the end, just believe whatever it is that works for you. If you get laid by believing that all women are sluts, thats none of my business and fine by me.

yes and I was reading on some sites online, don't know if they are truly accurate, it said that it is not uncommon for Female Rats to be the sexual aggressors during courtship, mating, one of it mentioned that a Female Rat will try to escape her cage when she is so horny to look for a Male, and Rats are mammals just like humans are.
06-10-2015 04:27 AM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
Analogy time:

Men are hunters i.e. chase prey and hunt
Women are fishermen (fisherwomen? i.e. cast nets and select their suitors
06-10-2015 05:39 AM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
(06-08-2015 10:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:02 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 06:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 04:15 PM)BronzeAgeGuy713 Wrote:  the reason why is because I have often felt for a while now, that if I ever do fix my issues with women and I start having the dating life/sex life I always wanted, I will never be able to heal the mental wounds, mental scars of what I missed out on when I was younger, as in I didn't have a girlfriend when I was in my late teens or early 20's like most guys do, I feel like if I ever do get a girlfriend, and i'm with her holding hands in public and I see all these couples out there younger than me, it will be a painful reminder of what I didn't get to have or experience earlier.

That's why I have often felt unmotivated to take action to fix my issues with women, because i'll always be behind, I can't be like most people, I hate being different.

Bro, I didn't lose my virginity until I was 24... and yet here I am, with some of the highest rep on the forum from any game posts. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and find a place to make approaches and hone your game. Keep trying until you succeed and find a niche. Or die whining.
I am curious as to how it took you that long to lose it? And how did you make the change to be a successful PUA? That is AMAZING dude.

About a year and a half of studying game from 22.5-24.
Were you shy in high school and college if you went? Why would you say it took you that long to lose it? Awesome that you found Game man.
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
(06-10-2015 09:19 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 10:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 08:02 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 06:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(06-08-2015 04:15 PM)BronzeAgeGuy713 Wrote:  the reason why is because I have often felt for a while now, that if I ever do fix my issues with women and I start having the dating life/sex life I always wanted, I will never be able to heal the mental wounds, mental scars of what I missed out on when I was younger, as in I didn't have a girlfriend when I was in my late teens or early 20's like most guys do, I feel like if I ever do get a girlfriend, and i'm with her holding hands in public and I see all these couples out there younger than me, it will be a painful reminder of what I didn't get to have or experience earlier.

That's why I have often felt unmotivated to take action to fix my issues with women, because i'll always be behind, I can't be like most people, I hate being different.

Bro, I didn't lose my virginity until I was 24... and yet here I am, with some of the highest rep on the forum from any game posts. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and find a place to make approaches and hone your game. Keep trying until you succeed and find a niche. Or die whining.
I am curious as to how it took you that long to lose it? And how did you make the change to be a successful PUA? That is AMAZING dude.

About a year and a half of studying game from 22.5-24.
Were you shy in high school and college if you went? Why would you say it took you that long to lose it? Awesome that you found Game man.

I was never shy, although I was shy when it came to physical escalation. The thing I had to learn the most was "vibing" with women (the "comfort" stage of seduction), that did not come naturally to me at all. I have always been dominant, aggressive, man's man, but never physically imposing until I started to lift at 22. By the time I was 24 I added a solid 15 pounds of muscle and my first bang was dancing with a girl at a bar. Danced with her for two hours, took her back to my buddy's place in Cambridge and lost the V-card. That's when I discovered I had dance game, it was natural for me. Afterwards I exploited the shit out of that niche and wrote my dance guide.

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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
Does any guy actually feel more "Yang" or masculine when a woman approaches them instead of the other other way around? Not in my experience. Approaching is part of being a man, masculine, "Yang" etc and I feel a little repulsed when a woman approaches me.
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
that's why in some ways i'm kinda jealous, envious of how women are valued for their youth more than men are, that womens peak attractiveness years start earlier than mens.
06-11-2015 02:30 PM
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
because they have a vagina, vagina means receiving, so for them having a vagina, women are meant to be spoiled, men are not, thats why Hercules had to do those 12 labors.
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?




This video touches on that a little bit.
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RE: Is this a valid, accurate reason as to why men always have to be the initiators?
(06-10-2015 02:30 AM)Felix88 Wrote:  Because we carry within us the seeds of life, and life is active not passive, women are just vessels for them.

What the hell are you talking about?

Let's not distort the most basic scientific facts: human gemetes, that is sperm and ovum, contain 23 chromosomes each. Upon fertilisation, a formed zygote contains both, thus a newborn will carry DNA from both mother and farther in equal proportions.

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