Post: #176

(06-25-2015 03:50 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  I also don't agree with the fact that u should hold on to your "nugget" if u have been with her for a year, or any amount of time for that matter. This mentality is terrible.
I've been with women who I have been with over 1 year, and even 2~3 years, and now I am so glad that that ended as there were sides that were horrible which werent discovered.
Having the above mentality also gives you less willingness to explore life in general, and, why settle for a someone just because u were with her a year? Is she pushing marriage?

90% of Western Women these days can't get beyond the one year mark. I think you are being a little extreme here based on your experiences. Perhaps you need to improve your "tests", screening methods and judgement skills in uncovering hidden baggage.

(06-24-2015 10:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I have dated great women in the past, I realize they are harder to come by these days. That doesn't mean I am going to settle for second best.

There is always time to game bitches, even if it is an hour a day.

Money is nice to have, but money alone will not get you bitches. Not the girls I want at least.

The whole MGTOW revolution I cannot get with, I like women and there flaws too much.

There will be no Beta revolution, they are too busy with there gadgets and internet porn.

1) What does your first statement even mean? I said if she passes one year with no problems then you should not let her go - Implying that if she is continuing to show you good things some guys who are READY TO HAVE A FAMILY ETC. (this does not apply to you if you want to be single) will still question if there is better out there that they can get. This is a Woman's foolish mentality.

2) Some guys including upper management making 250k+ don't even have an hour to waste on learning game. This leads to the following point:

3) Money will not seal the deal but if you want to go hunting for a Wife abroad it is paramount that you have it to absorb the costs required. Some guy making 45k can't afford to take one month off to go find a Wife in Thailand - AGAIN TO CLARIFY this is for guys ready to settle down and have a family etc. If this is not for you then OK we are not discussing you.

4) Please specify how exactly MGTOW is bad. I have seen nothing but positive results when incels convert to it. MGTOW does not mean you reject ALL interactions with Women. "There are levels to this shit"

5) Technology even in Japan cannot keep up with the demand for the Herbivores so how exactly are they too busy? Virtual Reality is not available yet for the next 25 years. In the meanwhile the anger of betas is still simmering....

There is a difference between Abundance mentality and being stupid. I am not saying you have to SIMP or be waiting on a Woman hand and foot. But do not keep looking for new girls if you have said to yourself I am ready to build something with one Woman for the long-term and think "She is everything I have asked for and more, but what if?" This is how a Woman thinks and why they are unhappy today.

Post: #177

I think the whole "holding onto your golden nugget" thing depends on why you're in the game. I have friends who are game aware, but don't have an interest in going out every week to try and fuck some new chick. They simply have other things they'd rather do with their time--and who can fault them?

Some dudes are better served by girlfriends and some by playing. I don't see why there has to be one or the other. There are some "players" out there who I know for a fact will have a girl they're banging on the regular for periods of time. No shame in that.

Post: #178

Ok this is a depressing story...

I am in Bialystok Poland.

In the Middle of the city there is park with a small, free, zoo. Not too many animals, bears, reindeer, goats, representing the wild aspects of Poland. I hadn't been to a zoo in a long time, I was excited to go.

The big "stars" of the show, the animals I really wanted to see were the wolves. I love wolves. I watch videos on youtube and animal tv shows about wolves frequently.

Looking through the bars, I noticed these wolves had no life in their eyes. They were complete caged. I don't even think I have ever seen dogs act as timidly as these wolves and dogs have been bred to be subservient over thousands of years. I fall behind a few of my friends and run to catch up. The wolves start to run along side me in a playful manner. I start to leave and they wimper. Not even a trace of the potentially vicious killers they could be.

Society is becoming like domesticated wolves. Tonight I was asked to pee in a fucking bucket.

I am staying at a good friend's apartment in Bialstok. He used to work with me in Toronto. He used to be an Alpha male. He would approach hundreds of women each night. He has settled down and moved in with his pregnant wife. I have been permitted to sleep in the living room. However, between their bedroom and the living room is the bathroom. If I go to the bathroom I need to open the door, turn the light on, close the door, piss and flush. Being a small apartment, the noise could "wake up his pregnant wife" so I am forbidden to use the bathroom the rest of the night. I was told that I should piss in a bucket and dump it in the toilet the next morning. I told my friend that I was not an animal and that I would not Pee in a bucket and I would hold it in. I am now looking for a ticket home.

Post: #179

(06-25-2015 06:24 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  Ok this is a depressing story...

I am in Bialystok Poland.

In the Middle of the city there is park with a small, free, zoo. Not too many animals, bears, reindeer, goats, representing the wild aspects of Poland. I hadn't been to a zoo in a long time, I was excited to go.

The big "stars" of the show, the animals I really wanted to see were the wolves. I love wolves. I watch videos on youtube and animal tv shows about wolves frequently.

Looking through the bars, I noticed these wolves had no life in their eyes. They were complete caged. I don't even think I have ever seen dogs act as timidly as these wolves and dogs have been bred to be subservient over thousands of years. I fall behind a few of my friends and run to catch up. The wolves start to run along side me in a playful manner. I start to leave and they wimper. Not even a trace of the potentially vicious killers they could be.

Society is becoming like domesticated wolves. Tonight I was asked to pee in a fucking bucket.

I am staying at a good friend's apartment in Bialstok. He used to work with me in Toronto. He used to be an Alpha male. He would approach hundreds of women each night. He has settled down and moved in with his pregnant wife. I have been permitted to sleep in the living room. However, between their bedroom and the living room is the bathroom. If I go to the bathroom I need to open the door, turn the light on, close the door, piss and flush. Being a small apartment, the noise could "wake up his pregnant wife" so I am forbidden to use the bathroom the rest of the night. I was told that I should piss in a bucket and dump it in the toilet the next morning. I told my friend that I was not an animal and that I would not Pee in a bucket and I would hold it in. I am now looking for a ticket home.

What the fuck did I just read?

Post: #180

(06-25-2015 06:36 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 06:24 PM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  Ok this is a depressing story...

I am in Bialystok Poland.

In the Middle of the city there is park with a small, free, zoo. Not too many animals, bears, reindeer, goats, representing the wild aspects of Poland. I hadn't been to a zoo in a long time, I was excited to go.

The big "stars" of the show, the animals I really wanted to see were the wolves. I love wolves. I watch videos on youtube and animal tv shows about wolves frequently.

Looking through the bars, I noticed these wolves had no life in their eyes. They were complete caged. I don't even think I have ever seen dogs act as timidly as these wolves and dogs have been bred to be subservient over thousands of years. I fall behind a few of my friends and run to catch up. The wolves start to run along side me in a playful manner. I start to leave and they wimper. Not even a trace of the potentially vicious killers they could be.

Society is becoming like domesticated wolves. Tonight I was asked to pee in a fucking bucket.

I am staying at a good friend's apartment in Bialstok. He used to work with me in Toronto. He used to be an Alpha male. He would approach hundreds of women each night. He has settled down and moved in with his pregnant wife. I have been permitted to sleep in the living room. However, between their bedroom and the living room is the bathroom. If I go to the bathroom I need to open the door, turn the light on, close the door, piss and flush. Being a small apartment, the noise could "wake up his pregnant wife" so I am forbidden to use the bathroom the rest of the night. I was told that I should piss in a bucket and dump it in the toilet the next morning. I told my friend that I was not an animal and that I would not Pee in a bucket and I would hold it in. I am now looking for a ticket home.

What the fuck did I just read?

I'm not exactly sure, but I think you just heard from the only guy in the world who is dying to get out of Poland so that he can get back to Toronto. Sometimes when I'm in Miami, I have a really strong urge to head right to Zanesville, D.C., or someplace worse.

Post: #181

Not dying to leave Poland. I am just dying to leave his home. It's really beta behaviour.

Post: #182

Swinging back to the post that launched this thread -- wow, I mean, just wow --


Get a load of his freak-out early in the clip.

How many dudes like this are out there in 2015?

Post: #183

Sadly, his shitty mentality is what's really holding him back.

No homo but he looks like if he lifted, dressed better, got contacts, learned Game, learned to think like an Alpha, etc. he could kill it but he doesn't believe he could and that's gonna hold him back forever.

The greatest lie most of us were told was that we are stuck the way we are and can't make any kind of substantial change.

EDIT:

"That's all I can be, is me" - him corroborating what I just said in his own words

"I don't talk like this around females, so DON'T MAKE NO ASSUMPTIONS!" - well he's talking like this on the internet for the world to see, females included

Post: #184

Hidden in this meltdown is a realization of some game truths; women don't fuck "nice guys" and reward the guys who take what they want and leave hurt feelings and broken hearts in their wake

He even displays classic denalist ramble when he touches on race limiting his options in the dating game

He has a video series on rejection, but he isn't seeking ways to not handlie it - he's virtually wallowing in it. This dude has created his own feedback loop of self pity. Some guys have bought into the fairytale of love and relationships so deeply that it blinds them to the imperial evidence that is their actual life experience.

His self stated goal in this life is having a gf, a tell tale sign of a guy with out not a lot going on in his life. I had a good buddy who was the exact same way when we were younger. It wasn't until he got a gf and she stomped on his heart that he realized that these women are not the women our grandmothers were.

These videos are a cry for help. Telling that he mentioned Elliott Rodgers towards the end Part 6 in the series

Certainly ironic, possibly prophetic

Post: #185

(08-10-2015 05:21 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Swinging back to the post that launched this thread -- wow, I mean, just wow --


Get a load of his freak-out early in the clip.

How many dudes like this are out there in 2015?

That's not even his biggest freakout. This is.




The guys problem is not only that he's really short at 5'2. But also has a self defeating mentality and dresses like a teenage kid rather than a man.

But he's not the average frustrated incel in the US. Those guys just have bad game and are misled to be "Nice Guys"

Post: #186

"I was meant to be a loser, man. I was meant to be a failure, man."

Man I spent way too much of my life telling myself exactly that.

What a poisonous mentality.

Post: #187

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy could help this man. He has re-wired the neurons in his brain so his view of his place in the world is distorted in a very negative direction.

It could take years to undo the damage, the negative thoughts "I'm a loser", "I'm no good", " I'm a failure", have been repeated in his mind so much that he believes them. His internal reality creates a self fulfilling prophecy of a loser, failure, no good reality. He needs to break that vicious negative inner game cycle. Replace the negatives with positives or at least neutrals. Start to re wire his neurons. Then outer game, as said in the post above, he needs to sort out his wardrobe. Lift weights, gain muscle. Achieve things in his life so he has something he has achieved to feel good about. Socialise as much as he can to develop those skills but with friends who don't put him down.

And as rejection is a big part of his pain and self fulfilling prophecy of negativity. He needs to not chase women for a while.

THEN, buy some books, come on this forum for game advice and start putting that knowledge into practise. He does not want to continue failing with women by desperately approaching them with poor game and lack of confidence. He needs to really not give a shit about what other people think.

Either that or he goes under a train or does an Elliot Roger.

This is another case of "game saves lives"!

Post: #188

(08-10-2015 11:33 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  No homo but he looks like if he lifted, dressed better, got contacts, learned Game, learned to think like an Alpha, etc. he could kill it but he doesn't believe he could and that's gonna hold him back forever.

Yeah, this is like me saying if I just grew six more inches, I'd be Anthony Davis.

I'm curious, if you walked into a room of 100 men, how many in there do you think would have a few years in the gym, killer style, good looks, the gift of gab, and an "alpha" mindset under their belts?

I'm a huge proponent of hitting the gym, but I can tell most guys don't really lift because they seem to think that lifting is this "just add water" proposition.

The gym doesn't work for everybody because everybody doesn't take the time to find out what they need to be doing and how they need to be doing it when they go; moreover, everyone doesn't have it in them to be consistent in doing what they need to do so that they really get results, and that's not even getting into what they need to be doing outside of the gym: nutrition, sleep, etc.

All of these boxes that guys think men need to check to be good at game, all have their share of difficulties, none of them are just hit a switch and there it is, that's why most people aren't getting it in as it is, it's actually pretty fuckin' difficult, like anything else that's unusual and leads to great results.

Post: #189

(06-04-2015 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  But He's going to bang his lifetime total of six, and that sixth bang will be the mother of his children. She has a good chance of divorcing him in his forties or fifties, but that's his fate in life.

WIA

Is this real? I mean, are these numbers accurate, or accurate-ish, or....are you just talking shit and being funny? I was DUMBFOUNDED when I read this, and I immediately thought, "NO FUCKING WAY". Is this REALLY the life of the AFC?

Post: #190

(06-06-2015 02:12 AM)Moma Wrote:  Distant Light is on a positive tip and exhibits successful emotional management. As I have discovered and mentioned, this comes about much easier from having abundance. Abundance mentality. Here is my question:

Are there any extroverts on this board who ever struggled with lizards?

I am an ESTJ Myers Brigg Personality Type (16personalities.com) if you haven't done it, I highly recommend it. This means that I am, by design, an extrovert. My greatest challenges with women come in 2 very noticeable places;

1. Coming out of a relationship. I work HARD to fill the pipe after a break-up. Not even necessarily getting a bang. Though it helps, it's more important to get the pipe filled again and get things in motion. Once the Attitude of Abundance returns, I can move away from the relationship failure and move forward in my life. Which leads directly to having an Attitude of Abundance.

2. Loss of Abundance. My biggest droughts have come from this. Loss of Abundance is my sworn foe, and I see it like that. Knowing this, I take every opportunity, and use every advantage that I have to game and approach. I know that in my pilot uniform, I look like a Boss. A little extra starch, crisper press, fresh hair, and shined shoes are the norm de rigueur to bust a slump. Because I know where the weaknesses lie, I know how to prevent it, and what to do when it looms on the horizon. I'm a process guy. I like structure and checklists. I analyze every aspect of my game, and my interactions with women. Post date, or interaction, I de-brief mentally. I ask myself "What went well? What didn't? Anything that I can do better to make the next run in more successful?" I note those, and move forward.

To the AFC in 2015, I would suggest that you find that thing in you that women are attracted to. Everyone has it. If you haven't discovered it, I would suggest that you learn CHARISMA.

Harvard Business Review's Take

Learn how to be conversational, funny, witty, and somewhat "off the cuff". I know a number of men who aren't particularly good looking. They're not the smartest, tallest, or the funniest. But they are engaging, charismatic, and relatable and continually take 8's and 9's home.

Gents, your ability to bed women lies in between your ears. Your intangibles are just the thing that opens the door. Make a woman laugh genuinely and you'll fuck her. Knowing the right thing to say takes time, experience, and perseverance.

Post: #191

The thing is chumps have to stop basing their self-value on women Shit I'm in a drought, but I'm still chipper as fuck. I get it if you are a player this shouldn't happen blah blah. I don't even begin to think of it doe, I just live. I keep on mackin. Cuz when I'm hot I'm hot. But damn when I'm cold frigid.
AFC's like in the video begin to develop this mindset, they believe it will get them pity pussy. The vicious cycle continues. You have to have big balls.

Post: #192

(08-14-2015 09:09 AM)Gentrification Wrote:  The thing is chumps have to stop basing their self-value on women Shit I'm in a drought, but I'm still chipper as fuck. I get it if you are a player this shouldn't happen blah blah. I don't even begin to think of it doe, I just live. I keep on mackin. Cuz when I'm hot I'm hot. But damn when I'm cold frigid.
AFC's like in the video begin to develop this mindset, they believe it will get them pity pussy. The vicious cycle continues. You have to have big balls.

Does pity pussy really even exist? Aren't women completely turned off by a guy who complains?

Post: #193

I have never seen pity pussy, but I have heard of it happening.
Normally that just dries the pussy up.

Post: #194

(08-14-2015 10:34 AM)Natural Born Gyalist Wrote:  I have never seen pity pussy, but I have heard of it happening.
Normally that just dries the pussy up.

How would it happen though? I assume it's just the right mixture of heavy drunkenness, no other attractive guys around by pure chance, and a loose chick.

Post: #195

I've seen pity pussy, however it is damn near non-existent. But once one is in victim mood like this cat, he's hoping some chick will see this and have sympathy that he is a "good" guy. Of course this shit doesn't work but this is the delusion a lot of men have. You see different levels of it ie. when guys pander, over act around a chick, over compliment etc.

Post: #196

(08-11-2015 12:57 AM)Clemmo Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 05:21 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Swinging back to the post that launched this thread -- wow, I mean, just wow --


Get a load of his freak-out early in the clip.

How many dudes like this are out there in 2015?

That's not even his biggest freakout. This is.




The guys problem is not only that he's really short at 5'2. But also has a self defeating mentality and dresses like a teenage kid rather than a man.

But he's not the average frustrated incel in the US. Those guys just have bad game and are misled to be "Nice Guys"

I could help this guy and get him laid, no doubt! He might get VD too but he will get laid.
Tip for short guys, go for shorter women. Ignore the taller ones.

Post: #197

(08-14-2015 10:23 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:09 AM)Gentrification Wrote:  The thing is chumps have to stop basing their self-value on women Shit I'm in a drought, but I'm still chipper as fuck. I get it if you are a player this shouldn't happen blah blah. I don't even begin to think of it doe, I just live. I keep on mackin. Cuz when I'm hot I'm hot. But damn when I'm cold frigid.
AFC's like in the video begin to develop this mindset, they believe it will get them pity pussy. The vicious cycle continues. You have to have big balls.

Does pity pussy really even exist? Aren't women completely turned off by a guy who complains?

Women are sociopathic by nature, so expecting a woman to dole out pity sex is about as likely as expecting to see a HB 8 riding the bus with a penniless old dude. I've never seen either event happen - not once and don't expect I ever will in my lifetime.

Post: #198

(08-14-2015 03:21 PM)rpg Wrote:  

(08-11-2015 12:57 AM)Clemmo Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 05:21 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Swinging back to the post that launched this thread -- wow, I mean, just wow --


Get a load of his freak-out early in the clip.

How many dudes like this are out there in 2015?

That's not even his biggest freakout. This is.




The guys problem is not only that he's really short at 5'2. But also has a self defeating mentality and dresses like a teenage kid rather than a man.

But he's not the average frustrated incel in the US. Those guys just have bad game and are misled to be "Nice Guys"

I could help this guy and get him laid, no doubt! He might get VD too but he will get laid.
Tip for short guys, go for shorter women. Ignore the taller ones.

Or how about tips for short guys, start putting work in the gym and don't let yourself be burdened by limiting beliefs

Post: #199

(08-13-2015 08:45 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(08-10-2015 11:33 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  No homo but he looks like if he lifted, dressed better, got contacts, learned Game, learned to think like an Alpha, etc. he could kill it but he doesn't believe he could and that's gonna hold him back forever.

Yeah, this is like me saying if I just grew six more inches, I'd be Anthony Davis.

I'm curious, if you walked into a room of 100 men, how many in there do you think would have a few years in the gym, killer style, good looks, the gift of gab, and an "alpha" mindset under their belts?

I'm a huge proponent of hitting the gym, but I can tell most guys don't really lift because they seem to think that lifting is this "just add water" proposition.

The gym doesn't work for everybody because everybody doesn't take the time to find out what they need to be doing and how they need to be doing it when they go; moreover, everyone doesn't have it in them to be consistent in doing what they need to do so that they really get results, and that's not even getting into what they need to be doing outside of the gym: nutrition, sleep, etc.

All of these boxes that guys think men need to check to be good at game, all have their share of difficulties, none of them are just hit a switch and there it is, that's why most people aren't getting it in as it is, it's actually pretty fuckin' difficult, like anything else that's unusual and leads to great results.

When I was really killing it in the gym, I was fucking with less women. For the rest, eating, digesting, lifting, you're gonna have to give something up. And that won't be your income source... so it will likely be socializing and some pussy, or fewer pussies.

It's a sacrifice. When you get to the level you've gone beyond getting a good base, and actually stacked on some noticeable muscle, you can drift back and forth between hard lifting and slamming twats. I try to do both the best I can, but there's other aspects to life besides looks, weights, and pussy that must not be ignored to be a balanced man.

The funny thing too is short guys blow the fuck up really, really quick. So there's no excuse for this guy. At 6'4" and an ectomorph, I practically have to kill myself, for a long, long time to make noticeable physical changes that stick. If I get away from lifting for more than a week, I start to shrink right back down. Most mesomorphs will never know that struggle.

Post: #200

(06-04-2015 03:53 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

(06-04-2015 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  The afc in America is neither dateless or sexless. His problem is that he doesn't get the variety, quality, and quantity of sex partners he imagines will make him happy.

This hasn't been my experience.

I see OK looking guys that are either completely incel or enslaving themselves in relationships with utter pigs all the time. I don't see most nice guy beta types pining for 9s and 10s or for regular access to new pussy, they genuinely seem to want this milquetoast pastoral vision of a stable relationship with a nice girl.

Sad but, this guy is fucked. Simple as that. He's probably never had one solid male role model in his life and has a lifetime of programming working against him, so even if he stumbled upon TRP (itself very unlikely) he's probably not going to listen. There's not a single person in his life that's going to give him the advice he really needs to hear, and every time he makes the mistake of confiding in somebody they'll just double down on the "just be yourself, it'll happen eventually, there's somebody out there for everyone, etc..." which will probably just piss him off more because it obviously contradicts the reality of his experiences.

I won't forecast this guy's future based on one video, but I will say... don't see this ending well.

I agree with most of what you say, but I think you're taking WIA out of context. Six partners LIFETIME is going to naturally include a lot od incel years and desperate dumpster diving, but it still isn't outright sexless.

You are right about the bad advice. BTW - has anyone seen r/seduction lately? It used to actually help people, now it's just the worst kind of self destructive bluepill platitudes, "be yourself", tell her how you really feel etc.

That thing is wrecking lives on a regular basis now.