Post: #76

(05-27-2015 08:11 PM)Fortis Wrote:  THere is the rub. Not as damaged, but there is still damage. DOn't worry, I want to break 50, so I'll talk when I get there. I don't presume to make it through and then be able to go back like it's nothing.


I don't mean this as an insult or anything. Have you broken 50 and tried to get into an LTR? I am just curious.

Any high-notch bros got any input on this?

No, not nearly at 50 but - I can see there being some damage, but the biggest difference is that I don't think there has been one time where a guy has something comparable to the '1000 cock stare'. That vacant look that she has seen/done everything and there is no emotion/feeling left.

Guys who sleep with a lot of girls will never be considered sluts. They will never be considered damaged. They will never be thought of as easy.

Post: #77

(05-27-2015 08:11 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 03:27 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 02:44 PM)Fortis Wrote:  I think it goes both ways, really. That isn't to say that a high notch count in men always means they can't bond, but I think it is foolish to assume that you can skewer hundreds of women then settle down when it's about that time. Delusional, even.

Nope it doesn't. It can be 'debatable' but a guy who has slept with 50 women isn't nearly as damaged as a woman who slept with '50 guys'.

THere is the rub. Not as damaged, but there is still damage. DOn't worry, I want to break 50, so I'll talk when I get there. I don't presume to make it through and then be able to go back like it's nothing.


I don't mean this as an insult or anything. Have you broken 50 and tried to get into an LTR? I am just curious.

Any high-notch bros got any input on this?

Fortis, I think I can chime in on this. 28 here and when I was younger(between 14 and now) my sex drive and testosterone was through the roof and I was with lots and lots of broads. Girls were passing my boner test before even knowing what that meant myself. I'm on notch 62 and when your chasing tail for that "steam blow-off" you overlook a lot of what guys Higher up and on down the totem pole here preach. The virtues of quality girls and screening them out has nothing to do with the drive and consuming of time and energy requred to get such girls that are only hot but not marriage or LTR material.

At least with me it was all one track and getting laid was the final train destination. I wish I had spent more time screening quality and good qualities so that I can have a bigger arsenal of game tactics but I don't regret it one bit. You learn a lot about women on the way to whatever number it is you want to reach. But it also takes away from you learning about what actually satisfies you as a whole man and applying that energy into that. It did with me so I think I speak from a disadvantage in that I never really fine tuned the mechanism that enabled me to land the women I did. Most were not hot and smoking models but mediocre 5's up to only a handful of barely 8's. That was what I call the sexual satisfaction broads. The women I wanted to LTR with weren't so stellar either but thats because I wasn't holding them to higher standards, or myself for that matter, that I should've been doing. Sex was the basis of all of the notches.

Psychologically, when you peel back your young or old ego and take stock of what it has done to you then you can really get to see that not only do you see the chinks in womens armor more easily but also the gaping chinks in your own armor. I try not to let it get to me and make me cynical or short sighted but yeah I think it has made me a little more thick skinned to all the bullshit out there. I'm writing this stone cold sober as I haven't had a drink in almost 6 years and it still does not do justice as to the thoughts I'm trying to eke out in a short post that can wrap anybody's head around what COULD possibly happen to a mans mind from all this fucking around with nothing but sexual gratification on mind. As if an emptiness has taken place. If it's this hard for me to explain then you can bet your ass women have it WAY worse than us when it comes to getting high notch counts and it manifesting itself in totally awkward ways in them, be it through their eyes(1000 cock stare), mannerisms(openess), inability to bond and any other ways you can spot these slags.

It only has an effect on you to the point of understanding what effect you DO let it have on you. It can consume you and make you feel empty or make you feel full knowing that you CAN get these girls easily and now it's on to only bigger and better things along with higher standards with your personal life or for yourself and more accomplishment.

As far as LTR's it sucks going into one knowing exactly how it's going to turn out whether by natural progression or by your inability to apply what little/lot you have learned to help those LTR's be what you would consider successful relationships. As for myself 1 year to 1.5 years is the max that my game has allowed me to successfully keep an LTR. The itch to start over anew with yet another woman gets me every time and it usually works out for the better as I apply what I learned and failed within turn helps me and makes me want to keep having a better one than the last. I mean, building my microscopic niche of a business, having multiple interests and hobbies, enriching friendships and more LTR's seems to be a decent enough life path for me given the opportunity a time like the present presents me to have. To each their own but that is mine in a nutshell.

Post: #78

Women are like water. Both completely idiosyncratic, both indispensable for life. Both will flow how they are going to flow according to their nature. If you're young & looking for adventure, go ahead, take the rapids. Many men have and are better for it, I am no exception. However, when the inevitable fork in the river arrives, one must consider whether they want to spend the rest of their days navigating white water & dodging rocks.

tl;dr: there are two types of women: marriage material and not marriage material. Don't confuse the two

Post: #79

Professor Mentu of the defunct blog University of Man argued that a high notch count for a woman makes her unable to bond to one man, but a high notch count for a man makes him unwilling to bond to one woman. I think his theory has merit. A man who has very good game and can confidently get a high quality woman when he wants one might be unwilling to settle down because he likes the variety. So there might be some damage for a high notch man, but it's a choice for him. For a woman, unless her current man is better than all her other men, she's an alpha widow and unable to bond truly.

Post: #80

I've re-titled this thread. I don't think the original (shitty) thread-title did the subject justice.

b*tches notch counts

Girls with Massive Notch Counts

Post: #81

Yeah 'bitches' is a very hurtful word and we don't talk about women like that here!

Post: #82

(05-25-2015 03:52 PM)nizona Wrote:  What is the most notches a girl has confirmed to you?

28

(05-25-2015 03:52 PM)nizona Wrote:  What would be your limit before you wouldn't touch it?

No limit for me.

Just because 4,000 people have climbed Mt. Everest doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see the view first hand.

Post: #83

(05-27-2015 11:08 PM)estraudi Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 08:11 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 03:27 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 02:44 PM)Fortis Wrote:  I think it goes both ways, really. That isn't to say that a high notch count in men always means they can't bond, but I think it is foolish to assume that you can skewer hundreds of women then settle down when it's about that time. Delusional, even.

Nope it doesn't. It can be 'debatable' but a guy who has slept with 50 women isn't nearly as damaged as a woman who slept with '50 guys'.

THere is the rub. Not as damaged, but there is still damage. DOn't worry, I want to break 50, so I'll talk when I get there. I don't presume to make it through and then be able to go back like it's nothing.


I don't mean this as an insult or anything. Have you broken 50 and tried to get into an LTR? I am just curious.

Any high-notch bros got any input on this?

Fortis, I think I can chime in on this. 28 here and when I was younger(between 14 and now) my sex drive and testosterone was through the roof and I was with lots and lots of broads. Girls were passing my boner test before even knowing what that meant myself. I'm on notch 62 and when your chasing tail for that "steam blow-off" you overlook a lot of what guys Higher up and on down the totem pole here preach. The virtues of quality girls and screening them out has nothing to do with the drive and consuming of time and energy requred to get such girls that are only hot but not marriage or LTR material.

At least with me it was all one track and getting laid was the final train destination. I wish I had spent more time screening quality and good qualities so that I can have a bigger arsenal of game tactics but I don't regret it one bit. You learn a lot about women on the way to whatever number it is you want to reach. But it also takes away from you learning about what actually satisfies you as a whole man and applying that energy into that. It did with me so I think I speak from a disadvantage in that I never really fine tuned the mechanism that enabled me to land the women I did. Most were not hot and smoking models but mediocre 5's up to only a handful of barely 8's. That was what I call the sexual satisfaction broads. The women I wanted to LTR with weren't so stellar either but thats because I wasn't holding them to higher standards, or myself for that matter, that I should've been doing. Sex was the basis of all of the notches.

Psychologically, when you peel back your young or old ego and take stock of what it has done to you then you can really get to see that not only do you see the chinks in womens armor more easily but also the gaping chinks in your own armor. I try not to let it get to me and make me cynical or short sighted but yeah I think it has made me a little more thick skinned to all the bullshit out there. I'm writing this stone cold sober as I haven't had a drink in almost 6 years and it still does not do justice as to the thoughts I'm trying to eke out in a short post that can wrap anybody's head around what COULD possibly happen to a mans mind from all this fucking around with nothing but sexual gratification on mind. As if an emptiness has taken place. If it's this hard for me to explain then you can bet your ass women have it WAY worse than us when it comes to getting high notch counts and it manifesting itself in totally awkward ways in them, be it through their eyes(1000 cock stare), mannerisms(openess), inability to bond and any other ways you can spot these slags.

It only has an effect on you to the point of understanding what effect you DO let it have on you. It can consume you and make you feel empty or make you feel full knowing that you CAN get these girls easily and now it's on to only bigger and better things along with higher standards with your personal life or for yourself and more accomplishment.

As far as LTR's it sucks going into one knowing exactly how it's going to turn out whether by natural progression or by your inability to apply what little/lot you have learned to help those LTR's be what you would consider successful relationships. As for myself 1 year to 1.5 years is the max that my game has allowed me to successfully keep an LTR. The itch to start over anew with yet another woman gets me every time and it usually works out for the better as I apply what I learned and failed within turn helps me and makes me want to keep having a better one than the last. I mean, building my microscopic niche of a business, having multiple interests and hobbies, enriching friendships and more LTR's seems to be a decent enough life path for me given the opportunity a time like the present presents me to have. To each their own but that is mine in a nutshell.

Excellent post. I had not accounted for this in my estimations: men have a deeper capacity for reflection and self-awareness, which you just demonstrated in your appraisal of things. I don't know any woman who could have stated such things. No, I don't mean they're all idiots or stupid, but I've met women with high IQs who try to explain their relationship woes and are completely not aware of their neurotic ways.

How old are you and how long have you been in the game?

Post: #84

Some slutty women have a certain sexual charisma that can be appealing. Whatever their number is, not being judgmental or acting surprised goes a long way.

Courtesans were respected members of high-society back in the day - there is a reason for this.

Post: #85

(05-26-2015 06:24 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

(05-25-2015 09:45 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  I wonder how they can even keep track when it gets that high. In a journal?

Some do: I knew a girl with a notch count of 78 at 19 in college.

We were having lunch in mixed company, she left the book on the cafeteria table so I read a few pages before I caught to her and returned it. Says took all that cock because she was looking for love

9 years later, she's married, pregnant, has a cushy job with Deloitte. But I'll always call her "11 Niggas" since she got banged by the whole offensive line (not the same day per her account).

Its probably not the same girl, but I knew one who at 19 tried to sit down and make a Journal of the names and dates of the guys (and girls) she'd fucked. She had a breakdown over the number of "?" entries in the name field of the journal. She asked me for advice b/c I was always brutally honest with her. I had no advice. I did enjoy looking at the list. She had attempted to put them in chronological order, starting with losing her virginity at 14 to her father's lawyer. Most of the first High School section of the list was her father's friends and business associates, and their friends and business associates, and a few jocks from her high school. She was largely motivated by receiving drugs, presents and occasionally straight cash payment. She fully admitted it was prostitution and was proud of some of the men she had worked over very well (she got a car from one of them at 17). These men were roughly 30% of the list over the course of 4 years.

The last 70% (And all of the ? entries) of the list was a single semester at Ohio State.

Her number was between 80-120 b/c some of the "?" she suspected were the same men, maybe. I have no idea what happened to her and am not particularly curious.

Post: #86

^^ She hated her father? Going after everyone he knew? Also, clearly her father was an asshole if none of this associates and friends didn't respect him enough not to fuck his underage daughter.

Post: #87

It's looking like after another 3 pages we'll need to re-title again to "Enormous Notch Counts"

Post: #88

I noticed a couple "I don't care" comments here. I care. I don't like condoms. Girls with high notch counts have STD's. Don't ask me how I know this. At this point, a Thai hooker is barely more dirty than some of these Western sluts. Even Poland has a ton of them.

I just about have stopped going for easy girls. Not only for health reasons, but fucking a lot of sluts was starting to.... hurt my soul. Spending so much time with empty and lost women was not making me happy outside of sex with them.

If there is one good thing is that I know all the "slut tells" that give me a target for her partner count. If a girl does things which show she had more than 5 guys, I eject. I eject a lot these days.

Post: #89

Makes sense that you care, Roosh. You don't want da Herp.

Post: #90

Mine Is 50. When I exclaimed "50?!" She said "what I traveled?"

Post: #91

How long is a piece of string?

What is the point asking, the number is going to be high.

Post: #92

(05-28-2015 05:48 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 11:08 PM)estraudi Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 08:11 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 03:27 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 02:44 PM)Fortis Wrote:  I think it goes both ways, really. That isn't to say that a high notch count in men always means they can't bond, but I think it is foolish to assume that you can skewer hundreds of women then settle down when it's about that time. Delusional, even.

Nope it doesn't. It can be 'debatable' but a guy who has slept with 50 women isn't nearly as damaged as a woman who slept with '50 guys'.

THere is the rub. Not as damaged, but there is still damage. DOn't worry, I want to break 50, so I'll talk when I get there. I don't presume to make it through and then be able to go back like it's nothing.


I don't mean this as an insult or anything. Have you broken 50 and tried to get into an LTR? I am just curious.

Any high-notch bros got any input on this?

Fortis, I think I can chime in on this. 28 here and when I was younger(between 14 and now) my sex drive and testosterone was through the roof and I was with lots and lots of broads. Girls were passing my boner test before even knowing what that meant myself. I'm on notch 62 and when your chasing tail for that "steam blow-off" you overlook a lot of what guys Higher up and on down the totem pole here preach. The virtues of quality girls and screening them out has nothing to do with the drive and consuming of time and energy requred to get such girls that are only hot but not marriage or LTR material.

At least with me it was all one track and getting laid was the final train destination. I wish I had spent more time screening quality and good qualities so that I can have a bigger arsenal of game tactics but I don't regret it one bit. You learn a lot about women on the way to whatever number it is you want to reach. But it also takes away from you learning about what actually satisfies you as a whole man and applying that energy into that. It did with me so I think I speak from a disadvantage in that I never really fine tuned the mechanism that enabled me to land the women I did. Most were not hot and smoking models but mediocre 5's up to only a handful of barely 8's. That was what I call the sexual satisfaction broads. The women I wanted to LTR with weren't so stellar either but thats because I wasn't holding them to higher standards, or myself for that matter, that I should've been doing. Sex was the basis of all of the notches.

Psychologically, when you peel back your young or old ego and take stock of what it has done to you then you can really get to see that not only do you see the chinks in womens armor more easily but also the gaping chinks in your own armor. I try not to let it get to me and make me cynical or short sighted but yeah I think it has made me a little more thick skinned to all the bullshit out there. I'm writing this stone cold sober as I haven't had a drink in almost 6 years and it still does not do justice as to the thoughts I'm trying to eke out in a short post that can wrap anybody's head around what COULD possibly happen to a mans mind from all this fucking around with nothing but sexual gratification on mind. As if an emptiness has taken place. If it's this hard for me to explain then you can bet your ass women have it WAY worse than us when it comes to getting high notch counts and it manifesting itself in totally awkward ways in them, be it through their eyes(1000 cock stare), mannerisms(openess), inability to bond and any other ways you can spot these slags.

It only has an effect on you to the point of understanding what effect you DO let it have on you. It can consume you and make you feel empty or make you feel full knowing that you CAN get these girls easily and now it's on to only bigger and better things along with higher standards with your personal life or for yourself and more accomplishment.

As far as LTR's it sucks going into one knowing exactly how it's going to turn out whether by natural progression or by your inability to apply what little/lot you have learned to help those LTR's be what you would consider successful relationships. As for myself 1 year to 1.5 years is the max that my game has allowed me to successfully keep an LTR. The itch to start over anew with yet another woman gets me every time and it usually works out for the better as I apply what I learned and failed within turn helps me and makes me want to keep having a better one than the last. I mean, building my microscopic niche of a business, having multiple interests and hobbies, enriching friendships and more LTR's seems to be a decent enough life path for me given the opportunity a time like the present presents me to have. To each their own but that is mine in a nutshell.

Excellent post. I had not accounted for this in my estimations: men have a deeper capacity for reflection and self-awareness, which you just demonstrated in your appraisal of things. I don't know any woman who could have stated such things. No, I don't mean they're all idiots or stupid, but I've met women with high IQs who try to explain their relationship woes and are completely not aware of their neurotic ways.

How old are you and how long have you been in the game?

I'm 28 and as far as counting how long I've been in the game there really is not a number of years. Lost my virginity at 12 or 13 to my babysitter who was then 26(babysat me and my sister from 6-8yrs old so it was pretty cool she saw me years later already 6' and 160lbs at 12 and gave me a shot). MY sex drive didn't start taking over until around 14. Being consciously aware of game and tactics and pushing the right buttons didn't start until around 23.

Now at 28 I strictly run day-game anywhere I find myself in public. Hardly do night game unless I DD for my friends to bars and clubs. It's a sweet thing pulling numbers and turning them into notches sober as can be. As I stated I'm more on a quality hunt as I transition into heavier applications of what I'm learning here and through the women I meet. What about you, Fortis?

Post: #93

The craziest girl notch count I witnessed was in college...

I was with one of my fuck buddies at the time. College soccer player with a incredible ass, but she was loony as hell.

We were talking post-coital before another round and she begin to tell a story.

Apparently last year, her roommate and her had a bet. Her roommate was always brining new guys home and was continually fucking. She was nearing 100 men and not even 21 yet. My fuck buddy had been with 30+ guys already, but still thought she was a bit out of control. Yet, the roommate continually teased her about being a prude.

So they came up with a bet about who could fuck 20 guys first. There was two months left in the semester when they started. Supposedly, they kept pace at first and both fucked 10 guys within 3 weeks, but then my fuck buddy got "sick" and the roommate got 10 more within two weeks.

This put her notch count well into the 100's as a 20 yr old "8", while my fuck "only" had sex with 10 guys during the bet.

Suffice to say, I never went raw with her again...

Post: #94

(05-28-2015 06:21 PM)Onto Wrote:  It's looking like after another 3 pages we'll need to re-title again to "Enormous Notch Counts"

Enormous Notch Cunts

Post: #95

(05-28-2015 09:53 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  How long is a piece of string?

What is the point asking, the number is going to be high.

If you can't see both ends of the string, there's no point in asking, either.

Post: #96

A fuck-buddy I was banging for most of last year (who I matched with on Tinder the day after she broke up with her boyfriend) went from 7 to 19 in the span of only two months after I met her (including two separate MMF threesomes). I'm guessing that she's north of 40 at this point.

To this day, I still wonder how I didn't catch anything from her.

Post: #97

Unfortunately, after more posts in this thread, the re-titled thread name was no longer accurate. Fixed:

b*tches notch counts

Girls with Massive Notch Counts

Disgusting Sluts with Jumbo Notch Counts

Post: #98

There are a lot of loose women about, and what gf have you had that hasnt had a fantasy about a gangbang ? for most of them its a major turn on...no?

Ive been given a mission by some banker friends of mine for Friday night this week, try to get a girl or a few girls, to come to an all night party in Zurich with 6 guys , and just be a total whores, she/they have to walk around in a bikini and have sex with any of us when we want it .. i guess it will be a hard thing to get some normal girl to do it ..but i know if a girl would do a gangbang it would be with with complete strangers ...

so im starting with 4love.ru and the openning sentence " do you have any fantasies .."

( i would not even attempt this on a swiss women , id be arrested, it has to be eastern europeans)

Post: #99

(05-28-2015 05:45 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Just because 4,000 people have climbed Mt. Everest doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see the view first hand.

The view might still be good, but all those climbers take a toll on her Grand Tetons.

Post: #100

Man I just realized something.

When I ask cougars or MILFs about their fantasies 90% of the time they just tell me "none, I've done them all".