Post: #26

(05-26-2015 02:50 PM)Remington Wrote:  So, did you even escalate by going for a make out after your period/eating box joke? Seemed like you made a decent recovery once yall got back to talking about sex. Once the movie started, you should have started escalating the physical contact.

No worries man, this stuff happens. You have a second chance to bang her since she requested coming back over. Since you did not escalate, she might no longer see you in a sexual way. Don't turn into her emotional tampon and establish dominance.

I didn't go in for the make out, but while watching the movie she touched my hand, and then laid her arm on my thigh while saying something. It was after the initial "period joke drama" so I was very wary of making any sudden moves and get blown back. I'm hoping to do better when she comes back, I need to be more dominant and stop fearing rejection and LMR. Maybe she's coming back because she'd expect me to be nervous, she knows I'm a virgin. Would having 2 beers before she comes be such a bad idea?

(05-26-2015 02:51 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  Oh God! That was painful to read. So much cringing.

But--

Quote:Before she left, she asked if she can come over again sometime. Not wanting to be an eager fool, I told her I'll get back to her when she can. Her wanting to return, is a good sign I assume?

Seems like you're not completely done yet.

When you watch the movie next time, sit close next to her (legs touching), and about 15 minutes in just grab her and kiss her randomly. Yes the 'fear of rejection' is always looming, but remember - you're the man- you have to make the first move.

Close proximity and random kiss some minutes into the movie. I'll keep that in mind. Many thanks.

(05-26-2015 02:54 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  Cease masturbating and looking at porn. At all. Until you get laid.

There is no human emotion more powerful than horny... It drowns out nervousness and fear, it gives you the patience to put up with a girl's annoying mannerisms and pretend to pay attention to the nonsense she says.

So, you need to make yourself horny.

I'd say I'm pretty horny. I have never masturbated in my 19 years of life. Not even once. I also don't watch porn, I have looked at it past couple of weeks however because I knew she'd be coming over. I didn't want to be too clueless. Thanks for the tips though, trust me I'm very horny. I just get struck by crippling fear.

Post: #27

Pass her to me broham. Lose your virginity by proxy.

Post: #28

When she left last time might of been a good time to sneak in a kiss.

No Worries, you can give her an innocent kiss on the cheek when you greet her next time. No big deal, just something that might calm your nerves down about making lip contact.

Post: #29

Super1ne, we all fail. I recently had a girl come over to my place on date 3, take a shower, and after several hours of touching and making out still couldn't get her to bed. This same girl came over on date 4 and basically same thing happened and i've been in the game way longer than you.
I can only tell you that if she is still coming over that means she is interested so just go caveman as other forum members would recommend. It is very tough but at least if she runs away you know that you did everything you could. Also, don't drink beer (it acts too slowly), instead I recommend you take about 3 shots of whiskey right before she comes over. It will really relax your emotions and make this so much easier.

Good luck mate.

Post: #30

(05-26-2015 08:09 PM)TripleG Wrote:  Super1ne, we all fail. I recently had a girl come over to my place on date 3, take a shower, and after several hours of touching and making out still couldn't get her to bed. This same girl came over on date 4 and basically same thing happened and i've been in the game way longer than you.
I can only tell you that if she is still coming over that means she is interested so just go caveman as other forum members would recommend. It is very tough but at least if she runs away you know that you did everything you could. Also, don't drink beer (it acts too slowly), instead I recommend you take about 3 shots of whiskey right before she comes over. It will really relax your emotions and make this so much easier.

Good luck mate.

With all due respect Trip, I have to disagree. This girl has seen caveman before, I think the reason why she's attracted to Super and wants to come back, is because he's inexperienced. Like the tortoise and the hare, slow and steady is going to win this race.

Cavemen may be good for the more experience playa that just wants to get it and get it fast. But, Super is a virgin and wants to crack that nut. If Super tries Caveman and it fails, who knows how long he's going to have to wait for this opportunity again.

Once he gets a taste, the Caveman will emerge on his next project.

Post: #31

Nah, Super needs to man up and go for the bang. Escalate just like edtf said:

Quote:Have some wine. Alcohol makes things easier. While you are talking and teasing with her, make sure to escalate physically. First light touches of her arm. Then if she doesnt move away or gets closer, putting your hand on her hand, or your hand on her leg. Keep talking as if this is the most normal thing in the world. Put your arm around her. If she doesnt ovject, move in for the kiss. If your kiss is not objected, stroke her hair while youre making out. Move your hand down and caress her body. If she reciprocates or does not move your hand away, you can reach for her breasts. After this you can ask her to lay down to be more comfortable. When are are laying down you keep making out and remove her shirt. Then kiss her and remove her bra. Repeat for her pants, once those are off youre in the home stretch.

Dont drink too much alcohol or its really difficult to get hard. Dont be too worried about your performance, this is for your enjoyment. If she resists at any stage move 1 step back, and keep talking as if nothing happened, retry that same step in a few minutes.

^ Best advice in the thread.

You don't need booze. Just turn on a movie and sit next to her. AS SOON AS THE MOVIE STARTS, put your arm around her shoulder as you casually sit next to her. That will get the heat building between you two.

Post: #32

Approach even more girls, don't hang your hat on having sex with just this one.

From my experience it was a lot of blowouts for every bang early on

Post: #33

(05-29-2015 07:29 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Nah, Super needs to man up and go for the bang. Escalate just like edtf said:

Quote:Have some wine. Alcohol makes things easier. While you are talking and teasing with her, make sure to escalate physically. First light touches of her arm. Then if she doesnt move away or gets closer, putting your hand on her hand, or your hand on her leg. Keep talking as if this is the most normal thing in the world. Put your arm around her. If she doesnt ovject, move in for the kiss. If your kiss is not objected, stroke her hair while youre making out. Move your hand down and caress her body. If she reciprocates or does not move your hand away, you can reach for her breasts. After this you can ask her to lay down to be more comfortable. When are are laying down you keep making out and remove her shirt. Then kiss her and remove her bra. Repeat for her pants, once those are off youre in the home stretch.

Dont drink too much alcohol or its really difficult to get hard. Dont be too worried about your performance, this is for your enjoyment. If she resists at any stage move 1 step back, and keep talking as if nothing happened, retry that same step in a few minutes.

^ Best advice in the thread.

You don't need booze. Just turn on a movie and sit next to her. AS SOON AS THE MOVIE STARTS, put your arm around her shoulder as you casually sit next to her. That will get the heat building between you two.

I agree, best advice. I doesn't sound "caveman" to me.

Post: #34

(05-26-2015 02:37 PM)SUPER1NE Wrote:  "Good, because I'm going to eat your pussy". She laughs and says "NO, you're not" at that point, I was mumbling, my mind was working overtime trying to come with something clever to say. I eventually say "Ha, you're not serious" trying to laugh it off.

Hah, brother, that definitely took some balls for you to say. Good work.

You're totally fine and you are on the right track. I have faith in you. And you're definitely not the scaredy cat you are making yourself out to be.

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Here's what I would do if I were you:

Send her a text that says "Hey let's watch a movie again next week. But this time we're going to make out."

Then when you are watching the movie, just simply blurt out "Wanna make out?"

These lines sound super cheesy, but I have been laid from this approach before. In fact, a 21 year old girl taught me that line "wanna make out?" by using it on me, and I've used it successfully on girls after that.

It works because you're both thinking about it anyway, and sometimes there just isn't a way to smoothly initiate kissing. It also will work in your case because it skips all the "kino" bullshit and other stuff you are over thinking.

Just look at her and say "wanna make out?"

Easy as that.

I'm 100% confident this approach will work for you. If it doesn't, I'll personally fly out to wherever you are and buy you a steak dinner.

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Lastly: no, don't drink beer before she comes over. That's something a pussy would do. And you're not a pussy. You're a man that is trying to get what he wants.

Of course it will be nerve wracking, but that's half the fun!

It means you're alive. Embrace it.

Post: #35

[update]

Hi mates, quick update. I haven't really been able to know my dad's schedule since the time she came over, so i didn't invite the girl over . Haven't been speaking to her because i think she started seeing me more as a friend (i would have kept her around post bang because she's fun and has some slutty friends. might be a good wingman too) judging from the way she was talking and not responding much to my sexual innuendo and inside jokes anymore when texting and she had told me she had some infection near her pussy (the doctor had said it was caused by bacteria, the girl told me maybe it was because she touched herself often. not sure why she doesn't clean her hands before but i digress).

I stopped replying to her texts, and she sent me a text "so you don't like me anymore? ?" some days ago. I replied "my bad bitch, hi. been doing some shit". not sure how exactly i was supposed to respond to that and she said she had been missing me and her infection has mostly cleared up (i asked about it)

I haven't invited her over again yet, however another girl who lives in another town who has liked me some for some years said she might be coming to my town this week and wants my "fresh dick". she knows i am a virgin and says she wants to "show me things". she was the first girl to send me nudes, some years ago. If she comes to my town and i have the house to myself, i hope i can land the almost certain bang.

I will keep you all updated mates, thanks for the all the advice.

Post: #36

^ You are so in with that other chick. What you could do is somehow make your main chick find out about you hooking up with this out of town girl. Her jealousy will get so high, and she'll want to 'better' the other chick, therefore she'll bang you too.

Post: #37

(05-26-2015 03:48 PM)SUPER1NE Wrote:  I'd say I'm pretty horny. I have never masturbated in my 19 years of life. Not even once. I also don't watch porn, I have looked at it past couple of weeks however because I knew she'd be coming over. I didn't want to be too clueless. Thanks for the tips though, trust me I'm very horny. I just get struck by crippling fear.

This could be a problem for you. You really should get some experience with your own equipment, otherwise you'll likely blow it way too early. Masturbation is normal and healthy, so long as you don't overdo it. It also helps you learn to control when you cum, which is extremely important when you're with a woman. I don't want to scare you but without a few years of practice masturbating, the actual act of sex will probably not go the way you think it will in your head.

Get that out of town girl over ASAP.