Post: #51

(05-11-2015 10:27 PM)Aer Wrote:  Just wanted to post this...

Did you even look at my post?

Post: #52

(05-11-2015 02:31 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  I am pretty sure the girl in that photo has had sex with more than 30 men. She has eaten out more than 5 girls during 3 way sex with another guy, she has been anally penetrated, spit roasted, done multiple guys at once, had several one night stands, and woken up drunk next to a guy (or 3) with no recollection of what happened, been pregnant and had no idea who the father was and aborted it, and had at least two nervous breakdowns. She has been a user of America's mental health system and when it all went to shit she has convinced herself that the man who was there to pick up all the pieces with his "dad bod" is far better than the dieseled out, tatted up dude with the eight inch dick that gave her vagina tingles (who she still dreams about when she uses her vibrator) over spring break in 2009. Don't worry "Dad Bod" when she divorces your sorry ass and takes half your shit, remember she really appreciated all your support.

Hell man. That is quite the impressive collection of words.

Post: #53

" I'll also add that women lie through their teeth about this kind of shit, and probably more so in surveys where there's no chance of being called out on it. "

They aren't really lying - they're cognitively unconscious of what turns them on - which is what I was saying when I said they dont know when their own pussy is wet. Scientists have confirm this with plethysmographs. Given that, women's words are not very useful. For most men, being as muscular as they can manage naturally while keeping body fat to ~10-12% will be optimal, though I personally have not gotten close to peak muscularity for my genetics.

Plus with Western women, your best odds of a relationship come when you immediately attract them - you can still go for a fling, or you can stick around. If you play up the dad qualities, plenty of girls who wouldve otherwise had a LTR with you will skip you.

Post: #54

Yea usually those videos are satirical in nature but I'm quite sure he's being 100% serious here. This shit is disgusting.

However it just reduces the competition. If it really gets trending and more guys end up working out less it'll be awesome for the rest of us.

Post: #55

(05-11-2015 11:34 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(05-11-2015 10:27 PM)Aer Wrote:  Just wanted to post this...

Did you even look at my post?

Oops.

Post: #56

The maker of those fitness videos is playing a character - whether he is actually red pill is unclear. I'd say "purple pill" at best. He doesn't have to actually be "red pill" to have his character say those things. Note how he calls himself an idiot to court blue pillers.

Post: #57

Seeing these disgusting fatbodies only motivates me to hit the gym even more! I don't want to look like these guys! I see enough of them at work. They go to the cafeteria already sweating up a storm at 7:30 AM, waddle up to the counter with their blown-out knees, their ill-fitting clothes with their muffin-tops bulging out of their too-small pants and dress shirts ballooning out the sides with their girth, their ties not even long enough to reach the third button of their shirts, "I'd like some eggs...huff-puff...some bacon....huff-puff...some sausage...huff-puff...some home fries...huff-puff...and a Diet Coke! I gotta watch my weight!"

The sad thing is, these guys are ten to twenty years younger than me!

Post: #58

Just recently, I went on a date with a girl I had met in the bar, and in the midst of conversation, we were discussing what we noticed about each other, and when it was her turn to tell me what she picked up from my appearance:

(Something along the lines of)"You were hot, had a sexy body, and I could feel the confidence coming off of you."

Don't believe the ideal male body type pictures you see out there. The simple truth is girls like muscular, built men. If you're fit, everything just becomes so much simpler and streamlined.

In this situation, I knew the girl for less than a minute and had to leave and she knew right away she wanted to hang out with me.

Post: #59

(05-12-2015 08:21 AM)lemko Wrote:  Seeing these disgusting fatbodies only motivates me to hit the gym even more! I don't want to look like these guys! I see enough of them at work. They go to the cafeteria already sweating up a storm at 7:30 AM, waddle up to the counter with their blown-out knees, their ill-fitting clothes with their muffin-tops bulging out of their too-small pants and dress shirts ballooning out the sides with their girth, their ties not even long enough to reach the third button of their shirts, "I'd like some eggs...huff-puff...some bacon....huff-puff...some sausage...huff-puff...some home fries...huff-puff...and a Diet Coke! I gotta watch my weight!"

The sad thing is, these guys are ten to twenty years younger than me!

Your use of "disgusting fatbodies" reminded me of one of my favorite scenes from Full Metal Jacket.

Post: #60

(05-12-2015 09:20 AM)NY Digital Wrote:  Just recently, I went on a date with a girl I had met in the bar, and in the midst of conversation, we were discussing what we noticed about each other, and when it was her turn to tell me what she picked up from my appearance:

(Something along the lines of)"You were hot, had a sexy body, and I could feel the confidence coming off of you."

Don't believe the ideal male body type pictures you see out there. The simple truth is girls like muscular, built men. If you're fit, everything just becomes so much simpler and streamlined.

In this situation, I knew the girl for less than a minute and had to leave and she knew right away she wanted to hang out with me.

Did you ask her if she was Mexican?

Post: #61

I'm surprised this article is being taken at face value on the forum.

This is simply the typing of a young idiotic woman that went viral, and isn't any evidence of any real trend in society, because I have never yet met a woman who is actually satisfied with what she claims to have wanted when she is handed exactly what she demanded.

What I read, is simply the typing of a girl attempting to be humorous, and, as usual for a girl, no-one being able to detect it. Maybe she needed to add more exclamation marks! (<- a girl would think the exclamation mark made the statement 'funny').

So ask yourselves, why did this unfunny typing by a nobody go viral?

- It feeds the vanity of beta white knights that women will be attracted to them, exactly as they are. It's classic Mom advice: "Just be yourself Billy and all the girls will like you."

- It allows women to repost it on their Facebook feed and (Rule #4 again) justify their lower-quality boyfriends through the affectation of moral superiority, claiming to be above such 'shallow' demands.

- It excuses girls who repost this from self-improvement of their low quality bodies, (but they have no intention of doing anything other than 'settling' for a guy like this, they all think they can do better).

- It plays into the Feminist Media's Ends to deliberate weaken male strength to empower women. This last one in particular is why it appeared on almost every media site, despite being barely-interesting: they want weak, flabby men to be a trend.

That being said, it's entirely-plausible that avoidant attachment style millennial girls raised by single mothers, or feminist mothers with weak fathers, might start sexually-fetishizing this body type seeking the sexualised, idealised phantasm of the strong father they wish they'd had in their lives.

Would that translate into reality though, if the girl in question was offered romantic interest by a bodybuilder vs. a dad bod? I doubt it, unless she had severe self-worth issues, in which case, bullet dodged.

I don't buy the 'Paul Newman' / 'Brad Pitt' ideal for a second. I've been average, I've been shredded, and I've been swole, and swole wins hands down.

Every woman I've ever dated has told me I'm 'nice' the size I am when I talk about going to the gym, yet has clutched at my biceps, traps and lats during sex when I've packed on more size.

The size difference makes them feel smaller and more vulnerable, and you're closer to their fantasy Dad / Authority figure they're all carrying in their head, assuming they aren't Feminist Defective and trying to be their father. Lift her in your arms and bang her standing up without her ever feeling like you're struggling and might drop her, and you will never see a happier, purring kitten.

Being swole puts me on women's radar: I am never an invisible man. Girls find excuses to talk to me, or look up from their coffees as they see me in the distance before submissively trying to sneak a look, or I catch their sideways glances out of the corners of my eye, and they are more approachable and better behaved, (at least until they think they 'have' you). Within my own age group, every single woman seems hyper-attentive to my presence. I am food to them. Despite what 'Dad or Brad Bod' hype suggests, I don't notice women of all ages checking out non-swole men of my age group in this manner.

This doesn't mean every girl wants to talk or means I always get the bang, but at least I register as high-value to them - despite what women say about bodybuilders. Even existing to women is half the battle. Put a guy with Paul Newman's body and without his face into some street clothes, and that's not going to happen.

More importantly, I work because because I understand what happens as you age:

Paul Newman at 64.



See how Paul Newman's build quickly turns into Wasted Grandpa?

Compare to respectably-fit Bruce Springsteen at 64, whose body has only-deteriorated into Newman's 'Then' physique, or a twenty-something Dad Bod, when he's at the age he should be wasting away.



The size I put on now is what will keep me strong later in life, will shrink me to an average man's body 20 years younger than me, rather than turn into a grandpa, and touch wood, I should be banging 40-something women through my 60's like my swole father does, baring any kind of major catastrophic health event. He usually tells his women he's 'forty-eight' instead of 'sixty-three', and they believe him.

So, yeah, I'm not buying the 'Dad Bod' hype for a second.

Post: #62

The key to that body type is that keeps the guy "somewhat appealing" in clothes, but not enough to truly appeal to women at a club, pool party, or the beach. Thus, satisfying, the "low game within reason" threshold they want.

Post: #63

Great analysis as always AB

My immediate initial reaction was this as well:

Quote:It excuses girls who repost this from self-improvement of their low quality bodies, (but they have no intention of doing anything other than 'settling' for a guy like this, they all think they can do better).

I've already seen comments on my social media "see, it's acceptable for a guy!".

Sure, when it's attached to Leonardo DiCaprio or a pro golfer.

But the women bitching about it are all the same, dumpy to fat, angry at the world that the characteristics they want to be judged on doesn't give them the pick of the litter.

Once again, it comes back to women attempting to shame men into selecting them according to their rules, while having to bring nothing to the table that a man may want.

The end goal for these women is to be able to put on a mumu and have a choice between James Bond and Paul Bunyon. Problem is they are trying to convince other women, women who would be attractive to men if they brought something to the table that men actually want, that this attitude is ok.

Post: #64

As guys we speak frankly about body size no bullshitting especially when you're around a group of guys and not behind the monitor. These are the body types men know.

Post: #65

I'd avoid the dad bod like I'd avoid married man clothes.

Post: #66

Fuck this noise, just another excuse for guys to settle for mediocrity instead of trying to improve themselves. Who would want to be some chicks pillow when you can be her fucking jackhammer.

Post: #67

Frankly think the "Male Body Chart" is a bit wanting in the "upper row "Athletic" definition, that dude is like 6% bf, most athletes cannot compete with bf levels that low.

Post: #68

Funny thing about feminists being mad about the dadbod "craze" is that men weren't the ones promoting it. Women were. Men weren't in the media talking about how proud they are of having dadbods, women were talking about how "attracted" they are to them. 100% of the attention came from women, and feminists are still trying to pass this as patriarchy or some shit.

Just goes to show you, nobody hates women like other women.

Post: #69

Never listen to what a woman says she's attracted to.

Observe what she does instead.

Two different things.

Post: #70

I'm fine with this on the basis that it means more women for us guys who take care of ourselves.

I'm not OK with the encouragement of unhealthy behaviour that, at least in Canada, will lead to even more stress on the health care system.

Has there ever been a time in history where being mediocre at best is celebrated, while taking advantage of your potential is frowned upon? Probably not.

Post: #71

Yeah, its bullshit, from what I see, the majority of guys I'd guess fall under skinny fat, dad bod, or just fat, of those three I would assume the dad bod is most women's first choice. What percentage of the male population falls under very fit to elite physique? My guess is less then 10% overall with it being higher or lower amongst certain demographics.

Given the choice, we all know what the large majority of women want, someone with a top tier physique, but women have been claiming otherwise forever and saying they "don't like muscles" or "want a guy who's not full of himself" which is bullshit. It's low self esteem and false self validation. Its like when your with an average blue piller and see a 9 and go damn she's fine and he goes "eh she's alright", he's really thinking "I can never have that".

Post: #72

HaHa. This thread made me think about a clothing and food chain here, which is pretty much the equivalent of the UK's Marks and Spencer's. Very large chain. Although they have modernised a little in recent years, historically their men's clothes were almost comically "square". Women's and children's clothes not so. And the shoppers at this chain? Upper middle class (or those with these aspirations) women, often housewives, who go there to buy clothes for their husbands and children. The husband is often doing quite well in life, otherwise the store would be too expensive for his wife, and the wife is concerned about him being poached at work. So by dressing him in boring clothes she can at least try to scare off the various office hotties.

And as has been stated here the "dadbod" serves the same purpose. I guess the women who encourage their husbands to look like this don't like sex much. Because the average person who looks like this has shockingly bad circulation and is going to need substantial chemical assistance to get it up. And, yes, I know there are some men who look sort of like this who are players, but they are a small minority and are coming in with extremely high natural testosterone to begin with. In other words they're coasting on naturally high T, but will also fail eventually.

Post: #73

When she sees your face redden in futility at the hands of a stubborn wine cork or a tight jar of pickles, we'll see just how hot she actually is for "the Dad Bod."

Post: #74

Am I the only one that doesn't think Leo Decaprio is fat. Dude looks normal. Could he put on some muscle. Most definitely. But most guys, even in shape guys and guys in Hollywood, aren't going around looking like the top middle three guys In the male body chart up stream. It is common for body builders, athletes, and especially actors who make their living off of their physique to fluctuate their weight dramatically between when they are shooting a movie versus when they are off set. Hell, a lot of sports players are actually kinda chunky even though they are elite athletes. The same with a lot of military guys too.

I'm mainly surprised that the typist used Leo as a model of the dad bod. He is the last person, even in those unflattering pics, that I would think about when describing the dad bod. Also, this is the first time I have heard about this. Is it really a thing?

Post: #75

(05-14-2015 01:29 PM)Canopus Wrote:  When she sees your face redden in futility at the hands of a stubborn wine cork or a tight jar of pickles, we'll see just how hot she actually is for "the Dad Bod."

dad bod means muscular with a big layer of bodyfat, not a sedentary puny cream puff