Post: #151

(05-16-2015 05:03 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 04:54 PM)kbell Wrote:  That glee movie made more money so far the opening weekend, Pitch Perfect 2. Right now the movie is expected to make 41 mil this weekend. Not exactly blockbuster sales.

Given the hype, I was expecting 90+. Really, 41 million, on a budget of 150 million, not counting the marketing budget?

They'll be counting on the international box office to put this one in the black.

Hehehe - it was surpassed by Pitch Perfect 2! Their full budget incl. marketing is reputed to be 300 mio. $ by the way. Friday looks almost like a disaster with 27 mio. worldwide - in comparison The Avengers Ultron made 84 mio. $ on Friday just nationaly - it made almost twice as much internationally.





Mark Dice has reviewed the movie as well - not bad (for us) - even mentioning the 'sphere.

Just watch the "Hated It" reviews on Imdb - they are a good indicator together with the boxoffice-numbers, how well it goes. People already mistrust the Imdb ratings, because they started to buy reviews in Sri Lanka I guess and people are not falling for that.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392190/reviews?filter=hate

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pag...ryroad.htm

Here the SJW-feminists and their media-hive-mind complex deplore the fact that their favorite feminist movie underperforms:

http://deadline.com/2015/05/pitch-perfec...201428039/

Quote:This $200M+ budgeted road rager from Village Roadshow was definitely restricted by its R-rating but there’s no pr company in the world that can put a great spin on this opening weekend. Everyone wanted this one to open better. “This will easily become the highest-grossing R-rated film to have ever receive a Rotten Tomatoes score of 98%,” said Warner Bros.’ distribution head Dan Fellman. “It will end up being the best reviewed R-rated, biggest-grossing film ever. And George Miller’s best opening ever. It’s going to have huge legs as we move into the heart of the summer.”

Do those ass-licking paid hucksters know what constitutes a good movie?

Guardians of the Galaxy grossed 770 mio. $ without much of a fan-base because they dialed back the feminist memes for a while (except for some 2 bionically enforced still sexy Alien women). They could have made Mad Max into a grand movie, but instead resolved to push an agenda instead of a decent picture.

Post: #152

(05-16-2015 05:14 PM)kbell Wrote:  64 mil for PP2 and it already broke even with a budget of 29 mil. Max got about 24.6 mil over seas.

Modern marketing budgets are not counted in the official production budget, and, for major releases, can be anywhere between 50-100% on top of the cost of making the movie. It's likely Mad Max has cost the studio somewhere between $200-300 million.

Of course, if they cast charismatic, likeable actors; knew how to make movies fun or sexy or human; and didn't believe Radfems knew how to entertain a mass audience; you'd have a word of mouth hit, and studios wouldn't have to waste fort trying to convince indifferent people to see dreary, unentertaining films.

The PR spin is basically a guy avoiding saying "Yes, we are this fucked," three weeks out from Jurassic Park, and trying desperately to deflect attention anyway from anyone possibly-construing distribution might have been involved in the movie's failure, and thus threaten his job security.

Quote:“This will easily become the highest-grossing R-rated film to have ever receive a Rotten Tomatoes score of 98%,” said Warner Bros.’ distribution head Dan Fellman. “It will end up being the best reviewed R-rated, biggest-grossing film ever. And George Miller’s best opening ever. It’s going to have huge legs as we move into the heart of the summer.”

"Look at my shiny Participation Trophy!"

This is a mate of mine talking about how his fat, unfaithful hooker girlfriend has a 'nice personality'.

Post: #153

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Post: #154

I love movies, but I only see one in theatres now if I've made sure it's gotten good reviews from my friends (who have similar tastes than me) so, its very rare.

Watching old movies that are very good is a great date I think. You can cuddle up on the couch and unlike at the theatre, no one can stop you and girl from doing anything.

It has to be a girl who also likes movies though. My last girlfriend only wanted to watch annoying T.V. shows that I hated.

Post: #155

I still think PP2 made a healthy profit even if you included the advertising. MM is a joke so far. It would be cool if it was shot like the original which had an extremely low budget.

Post: #156

For Mad max to make a profit with a production budget of 150$ million and marketing cost of 100$ million(considering its over 3000 screens domestic-wide release)

They would need to earn 500$ million domestic + worldwide. (I am not including distribution fee to make it less complicated)

500$ million --
(250$ million) -- Exhibitor cut
(100 million) --- P&A(prints and advertising)
(150 million)---production Cost
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0 --------------------------------> this is when movie starts making a profit.

They will most likely start making a profit in the home video market(digital + brick and mortar)

Post: #157

i wonder how many guys complaining about the movie have bothered to watch it. this is pretty embarassing calling for boycott of a movie you havent even seen yet

fact is there is no feminist agenda being pushed and its a very entertaining movie. i was expecting the worst after i read about it on rok but decided to form my own opinion dont regret seeing it at all. btw the last time i went to the cinema was 2012 for avengers and that movie bored me to tears

if anything this movie shows women as weak and incpometent

**spoilers**

- captured sex slaves are completely helpless (cant even reload a gun)

- one of the breeders even wants to go back to her masters because she realizes fleeing is hard work

- furiosas rig breaks down and the men have to fix it

- the promised green land is no more because the old ladies fucked it up and let it all go to shit


i could understand the hate if men were ridiculed and women shown as superior but this is really not the case here. its pretty much a 2 hour car chase eith a much more comic book feel than the old movies.

you can either whinge about feminism and. liberals or enjoy a pretty cool action flick

Post: #158

(05-16-2015 08:29 PM)w00t Wrote:  i wonder how many guys complaining about the movie have bothered to watch it. this is pretty embarassing calling for boycott of a movie you havent even seen yet

fact is there is no feminist agenda being pushed and its a very entertaining movie. i was expecting the worst after i read about it on rok but decided to form my own opinion dont regret seeing it at all. btw the last time i went to the cinema was 2012 for avengers and that movie bored me to tears

if anything this movie shows women as weak and incpometent

**spoilers**

- captured sex slaves are completely helpless (cant even reload a gun)

- one of the breeders even wants to go back to her masters because she realizes fleeing is hard work

- furiosas rig breaks down and the men have to fix it

- the promised green land is no more because the old ladies fucked it up and let it all go to shit


i could understand the hate if men were ridiculed and women shown as superior but this is really not the case here. its pretty much a 2 hour car chase eith a much more comic book feel than the old movies.

you can either whinge about feminism and. liberals or enjoy a pretty cool action flick

I saw it today. And I made sure I saw it at a theater that only charged me $4.50 for the ticket. Yes, you can still find places like this. So for me it was worth it. I only shelled out a pittance to see this bullshit.

And it was feminist-centric. Absolutely. The whole focus of the movie is on Charlize Theron, and the scenes portray her as the equal of Tom Hardy in strength, courage, and virtue.

That's why it's bullshit. And that's why we should attack it.

I want to see a man's action movie. I don't want to see some bullshit flick with a bunch of sniveling pregnant women in the backseat, and wrinkled old women shooting guns at barbarian freaks. I don't want to see that.

Yeah, they have a few "red pill" things sprinkled in here and there, but the overall tone is this: Mad Max is now just a cab-driver, escorting a bunch of ageing crones through the wasteland.

But beyond all that, it's just not a very good movie. There's too much CGI, not enough realism, the characters are wooden, the actions scenes go on too long, and there's too much rapid cutting.

George Miller (the director) has sold out.

Post: #159

(05-16-2015 08:29 PM)w00t Wrote:  i wonder how many guys complaining about the movie have bothered to watch it. this is pretty embarassing calling for boycott of a movie you havent even seen yet

fact is there is no feminist agenda being pushed and its a very entertaining movie. i was expecting the worst after i read about it on rok but decided to form my own opinion dont regret seeing it at all. btw the last time i went to the cinema was 2012 for avengers and that movie bored me to tears

if anything this movie shows women as weak and incpometent

**spoilers**

- captured sex slaves are completely helpless (cant even reload a gun)

- one of the breeders even wants to go back to her masters because she realizes fleeing is hard work

- furiosas rig breaks down and the men have to fix it

- the promised green land is no more because the old ladies fucked it up and let it all go to shit


i could understand the hate if men were ridiculed and women shown as superior but this is really not the case here. its pretty much a 2 hour car chase eith a much more comic book feel than the old movies.

you can either whinge about feminism and. liberals or enjoy a pretty cool action flick

I have two issues with your post.

1. The very tired variation of "you have to see it to decide if you like it." The logical conclusion to your argument is that I would need to watch any movie to decide if I wanted to watch it or not. I do not need to see generic romcom #50 to know that I am not going to like it, and I don't need to pay Hollywood to make more.

2. The just ignore the feminism argument- that is exactly what they want and what the ROK article warned about. Enough men go and see this movie and for the foreseeable future every "action" movie will have a bunch of feminism in it.

I am glad you enjoyed your feminist movie.

Post: #160

(05-16-2015 08:29 PM)w00t Wrote:  i could understand the hate if men were ridiculed and women shown as superior but this is really not the case here. its pretty much a 2 hour car chase eith a much more comic book feel than the old movies.

you can either whinge about feminism and. liberals or enjoy a pretty cool action flick

The point is SUBVERSION. This process has been going on for decades. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's happening.

There's a reason why Progressive Movie Critics are celebrating this:

Quote:When the final trailer for “Mad Max: Fury Road” dropped back in April, I questioned if George Miller was secretly giving audiences a feminist action movie.... It is the most subversive action blockbuster in existence and it is glorious.

I suggest you read the entire article to discover what you're not seeing, that is clear enough to Progressives that they find it cause for celebration.

7-ways-mad-max-fury-road-sublimely-subverts-movie-sexism

Now, what kind of woman writes this?



Standard issue Dead Eyes, with dark circles suggesting ill health. Note that, although she's young, she's stripping away all natural colour of her hair for dyed, corpse-like affectation.

Anti-Life. Anti-Nature. There's a reason why all these dysfunctional, bitter weirdos have green or blue hair. They hate life with every core of their being.

How do I know she's bitter? I can guess and she's so mundane and cliched - a walking feminist trope - that I know exactly what to expect. Noting her Bio, I can only yawn with the predictability.

Quote:Mom. Wife. Geek. Gamer. Entertainment Editor. Sarcastic. Succinct. Donna has been writing snark for the Internet in one form or another for over half a decade. She has a lot of opinions, mostly on science-fiction, fantasy, feminism, and cats.

This is a woman who is clearly stating she spends her time reacting to everything and everyone as beneath her with disdain and contempt.

Anti-Joy. Anti-Fun.

Her twitter feed is obviously-retarded, though I'm not convinced she's functionally-so.

Her existence matches the miserablist pattern I describe in this thread:

/thread-47512-...pid1022059

She loved the movie too. They're all celebrating this, and you're not seeing it? Can you understand why she loves it is why I would recognise it clearly isn't for me, because the only things she finds of value are simply subversion of truth and beauty?

Hey, Quintus, now you've seen it. What is Max's motivation for helping the women? Based on feminist theory, I'm guessing he is just dragged along by circumstance. Further questions I'd ask: Is the thrust of the movie about achieving Max's goals or Female Cancer Sufferer's? Who drives the action? Who comes out as the hero whose goals are met, and who reads as the supporting character?

Post: #161

(05-16-2015 08:41 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Yeah, they have a few "red pill" things sprinkled in here and there, but the overall tone is this: Mad Max is now just a cab-driver, escorting a bunch of ageing crones through the wasteland.

If you broke the script down Hardy barely had any lines in the whole damn movie. When you did hear him speak it was also some barely audible mumble or one liners.

It was literally the Charlize Theron w/pregnant models and old biker hags movie.

Post: #162

(05-16-2015 11:28 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Standard issue Dead Eyes, with dark circles suggesting ill health. Note that, although she's young, she's stripping away all natural colour of her hair for dyed, corpse-like affectation.

Anti-Life. Anti-Nature. There's a reason why all these dysfunctional, bitter weirdos have green or blue hair. They hate life with every core of their being.

Hey, Quintus, now you've seen it. What is Max's motivation for helping the women? Based on feminist theory, I'm guessing he is just dragged along by circumstance. Further questions I'd ask: Is the thrust of the movie about achieving Max's goals or Female Cancer Sufferer's? Who drives the action? Who comes out as the hero whose goals are met, and who reads as the supporting character?
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Yeah, I'm glad I saw it. I've just finished a 1500 word ROK article for Monday talking about the movie, and putting it in the context with the other decades-long "subversion" (as Bosch precisely notes) of our cultural life.

I didn't feel I would be able to critique it unless I actually saw it. And for $4.50, I felt like I came out ahead.

I contrast her image in this movie with her role in another apocalypse movie, "The Road" (2009). In "The Road", she played a more realistic role of what an American woman would do during the collapse of civilization: abandon her family, her husband, and kill herself. Because most of them are gutless, spineless cowards with no heart.

Now that's reality. But of course the media doesn't want to talk about that.

But anyway, getting back to your question, AB.

Mad Max crosses paths with "Furiosa" (Charlize Theron) after they both crash up in the desert. She was trying to smuggle the boss's harem of women out of his compound, and crashed. Max was a captive of the same boss. He was tied to one of the vehicles, and this vehicle also crashed.

So they both sort of join forces by accident and flee from their common pursuers. She eventually takes him to some sort of colony of all-female spinsters hiding among the sand dunes. They then basically all want to get to "green land" where they can have a new life.

Furiosa suggests one route across same salt flats, but Max nixes this idea, and tells them that they should head back to the original big compound from whence they all came. They hope to be able to take it, since it will be unguarded; all the war parties are in pursuit of them. So this sets up the last action sequences of the film.

Who's driving the action? Good question. The movie (probably intentionally) is written in such a way that it looks like both Max and Furiosa are driving it as some sort of collaboration. But then when you think about it, the reality is that he's really just implementing her overall plan. He figures out how to achieve her grand scheme.

All in all, the chemistry between these two dorks (Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron) is non-existent. Hardy's accent is a weird mishmash of Welsh and Australian, and Theron looks like she just stepped out of a manicurist.

We miss the real sense of fraternal bonds that we got in the "Road Warrior", say, between Max and the Gyro Captain; or Max and the feral kid; or Max and Pappagella (spelling hopefully correct).

I just really object to these feminist fantasies of showing women in all-out combat as equals to men.

In real life, they would be cowering in fear, or getting some other guy to do all the heavy lifting.

This shit is all about brainwashing. And it really is dangerous, because it feeds into the illusion that women can hump a pack with the same weight as a man can. And they just can't.

Cannot.

To me, the best post-apocalypse movie I've seen in recent years was "The Rover", which is another Australian film, with Guy Pearce. See that if you want to see the real face of bitterness.

Post: #163

Quote:From news.com.au: The reviewers are raving for George Miller’s Mad Max: Fury Road

The world’s critics have become fans, and focus on three strengths of the film: the simple “realism” of the storyline and imagery; the brilliant chases and crashes; and the fact that Tom Hardy (Max) and Charlize Theron (Furiosa) are gender-equal heroes.

Now Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron are apparently "gender-equal".

I'm not exactly sure what they are saying, but looks like even the Australian press has lost the plot.

Post: #164

(05-16-2015 11:28 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 08:29 PM)w00t Wrote:  i could understand the hate if men were ridiculed and women shown as superior but this is really not the case here. its pretty much a 2 hour car chase eith a much more comic book feel than the old movies.

you can either whinge about feminism and. liberals or enjoy a pretty cool action flick

The point is SUBVERSION. This process has been going on for decades. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's happening.

There's a reason why Progressive Movie Critics are celebrating this:

Quote:When the final trailer for “Mad Max: Fury Road” dropped back in April, I questioned if George Miller was secretly giving audiences a feminist action movie.... It is the most subversive action blockbuster in existence and it is glorious.

I suggest you read the entire article to discover what you're not seeing, that is clear enough to Progressives that they find it cause for celebration.

7-ways-mad-max-fury-road-sublimely-subverts-movie-sexism

Anyone who defends the movie should read that article:

Quote:“Who killed the world?” is the question plaintively asked during “Fury Road.” The answer is obviously toxic masculinity — the idea that Real Men act a certain way, are violent and aggressive, and never, ever have “feminine” emotions. From the Rich White Men™ running Immorten Joe’s empire down to to the disposable War Boys indoctrinated to think life only has meaning if they die in glory, Miller doesn’t shy away from showing how this mindset is destroying what is left of the world. Then along come the Wives — unwilling to kill Nux (Nicholas Hoult) despite his fervent attempts to capture/kill them — to show another way. They aren’t afraid to kill, but all those books Immortan Joe let them read filled their heads with ideas. Ideas about what would make a man turn into suicide bomber and how redemption is always a worthy goal.

Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/harpy/7-ways-mad-m...WryZPwj.99

This is how feminists saw it and this is how most of the people will see it. If you think this is not the case, then you are one of the guys who claims that TV commercials don't work on them. The message is conveyed via association, imagery, narrative etc.

Post: #165

lol id rather shoot myself in the face tham read what some nutjob feminists have to say about this movie

all i saw was a decent popcorn flick... better than alot of the other crap hollywood has beem pumping out in the last years

but since this movie is apparently somehow evil and dangerous im gonna watch terminator 2 tonight... just to prevent a drop in test levels

Post: #166

Screenrant.com wrote an article yesterday and link the ROK article. The articles title is 2hat is a feminist movie anyway. Didn't read it.

Post: #167

Theron's Social Justice whining has always struck me as disingenuous, much like Jennifer Lawrence's 'Common Man' affectations about eating Cheetos and loving yourself no matter what your weight is.

I've just figured this is a game she's playing - as is the constant uglification - is a form of Mea Culpa for the three sins she's got going against her that would guarantee Progressive Hate:

- Former model
- Former beauty
- White South African

You can see why Progressives would reward her for gaining weight and uglifying herself for 'Monster' and this role.

Still, her rhetoric stinks on ice, given her lifestyle.

Half an hour of research, and I came up with this, explaining why I hate Celebrities and being patronised by Hollywood Films that think they're making Important Statements.

Post: #168

Holy shit I knew it was bad, but that bad....

Post: #169

(05-16-2015 05:47 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote:“This will easily become the highest-grossing R-rated film to have ever receive a Rotten Tomatoes score of 98%,” said Warner Bros.’ distribution head Dan Fellman. “It will end up being the best reviewed R-rated, biggest-grossing film ever. And George Miller’s best opening ever. It’s going to have huge legs as we move into the heart of the summer.”

Wait, this shitty propaganda movie has a 98% at Rotten Tomatoes?????



I have stopped following that website some years ago because its ratings often ended up presenting absolute crap as mediocre and mediocre movies as great. I'm glad I made the right decision.

Post: #170

Don't forget Charlize is one of the anointed UN 'Messengers of Peace'.

Its funny how the world is structured, where entertainers become political advocates, membership in one group (Hollywood) translates into membership into the UN (World Government).

"Why is this called a Mad Max movie if his character is just a co-star?"

This is just another example of the dialectical process of controlling the population. Whereas the old: masculine man in the wasteland, is replaced by the new: independent feminist warrior. The old norms are destroyed by the new, resulting in 'new normals' with time.

If you want to see this movie, don't see it in the theaters, do it by other means.

Post: #171

From one of the review it sounded like the fat milkers waste all of the water rather than ration it out at the end. Which is horrifying when you think about it.

Also what credentials does the Vagina Monologue writer have to help write battered women?

Post: #172

Ha, I feel like such a weirdo for having enjoyed the movie.

Post: #173

OK - I saw the crap - could not contain my curiosity.

Spoilers ahead - so don't read if you want to "enjoy" it, but trust me - you won't enjoy it anyway so you might as well read on.

1. The mind-numbingly stupid story:
- no explanations - no nothing
- Max just enjoys a quiet view of the countryside for like 15 seconds before fleeing again from the marauding bandits who capture him. He literally had to take a break to stretch his legs and could not hear them at all. I guess you can hardly hear a bunch of high-powered cars in the post-apocalyptic desert. Then he is caught and has a dog-leash on for the next 30 minutes of the movie
- the plot is simple: they flee, then that fails, then they return thinking that they can take the fortress - there is literally no explanation of anything
- the society the psycho king built makes no sense at all
- they seem to live in a big rock that has some water supply
- they have some agriculture, the work is done by the white painted boys, he keeps himself a harem and also a milk-farm created out of obese women
- then you have the huge lower population which looks like a bunch of emaciated old people who could have played medieval villagers - as far as I have seen, they don't have any important role or work to do - they are just standing there poor and old. I also haven't seen any other fertile women - only old frail men and women below, the few breeders and 100+ of boys and warriors above who do all the work
- How the fuck does this system work at all?
- And what the fuck happened to the world? Did they not go to the coast and see whether there is some rainfall there? Is the whole world supposedly a desert now and are we to believe crap like in the movie Interstellar? Any goat is 10 times better of a milk producer than an obese woman who must consume 4000+ calories to stay that way.
- I only saw a fly and and a lizard in the movie and nothing at all - both were eaten by humans
- there was water & rain later in the scene, but I guess no one bothered to live there
- there seem to be other tribes around, who all have guns and gasoline
- in fact the Immortan Joe tribe uses the least amount of guns, but some kind of spears which strangely explode on impact and crossbows which make cars go BOOM on impact
- all this shit is supposed to be decades or a century after the fall of civilization and they all burn fuel and water as if there is no tomorrow
- I guess all tribes must have some fuel tankers as their base
- seriously This crap is so realistic that Star Wars, Waterwarld and Avatar are like documentary movies - even the Avengers are more realistic than that. In Waterworld at least they had somewhat of an explanation and a system for all their ideas.
- Mad Max Furiosa does not bother about facts

2. No character development - you hardly care if someone dies
- I've read it on the IMDB comments and other people had the same reactions
- Mad Max has some kind of PTSD flashbacks of his killed wife and child - as I might add at the worst moments - I would never hire him as a soldier or a security - he literally gets triggered during the hottest battle moments and almost gets killed
- some people even write that they cared more for the white Warrior Boys, because they were crazy and happy in their belief of going into Valhalla
- even Furiosa's pick of the harem girls is strange - below they have hundreds of people who would love to go with her - even some Warrior Boys. She then goes and picks 5 of the most privileged and beautiful women to accompany her to "Greenland". Talk about female privilege here! She saves literally the women who have the best life of all except for the couple main men.
- even Immortan Joe is seen to care for his women as in one scene as the pregnant blonde gets thrown out of the truck (no fault of the "Bad Guys" - the door just unhinged) - Immortan Joe swerves and almost kills himself because he does not want to hit his girl - he cries after holding her lifeless body afterwards
- so essentially the bad boys are not even shown to be so evil, but women care that "they are not to be treated as objects" - darlings - if it were not for that you would be down below with the emaciated masses

3. Women are better morally and physically, technologically totally equal
- during the first fight between Mad Max and Furiosa she actually hits him with her stump - I might add - her left stump,
   
- then 2 seconds later as they struggle with the gun and Max gets hold of the gun SHE ACTUALLY MANAGES TO PULL HIS ARM TO HIS HEAD AND ALMOST SHOOTS HIM - yeah - you heard me - she exerts 2-3 times more strength than Mad Max and uses school bully tactics of "Stop hitting yourself" to move his arm by the sheer strength of her arm!

- the fight itself is only decided when Max somehow manages to get hold of the weapon and almost shoots her - I guess otherwise it would have gone on, because they are equal in strength and fighting powers
- the other girls did nothing as was expected - pulled the chains of Max and Warrior Boy from time to time -

- that's what they were doing
- essentially it was a fight of Furiosa against Mad Max and Warrior Boy - one woman with no arm is good enough for 2 men
- they do encounter that stupid tribe of 60-70 year old biker women who are all hardass and saving seeds
- of course those 5 women are more than enough for some 40 road vehicles and 60 battle hardened Warrior Boys
- you also know that the women are good, because as soon as the grannies on bikes appear then the music is all calm and they are kind and good
- what is unclear however is how those grannies survived because there is literally nothing where they live - Did they eat human meat and drink eyeballs for water?
- for some strange reason they are the only ones equipped with rifles and machine guns while their attackers have spears and shit
- in one scene Furiosa takes the sharpshooter gun, because Mad Max cannot do it - she shows him how it's done
- in another scene as they decide on taking the Fortress Furiosa and Max shake hands like this:

because that's how equal partners and dudes do

Other massive idiocies:

- yes there is no sex at all in the movie - you only see a few scantily clad models and most of them survive as female privilege is alive and well
- the petrol truck was by some IMDB commentator seen as the biggest star in the movie, because it survived a barrage of bullets, was never hit and somehow managed to be faster than all the high-powered vehicles that the men had
- the only time when Max did something cool the cameras failed to film it because he disappeared into the fog to kill a bunch of highly armed guys who had a car with a machine gun turret and he reappeared later having done the job - men do their heroic acts in anonymity
- At one time Mad Max was with the 5 models, Furiosa and Warrior Boy alone in the truck. He was well off and gone (their pursuers had somehow given up and Immortan Joe was just standing around singing something behind his face-mask). Why the fuck did he not try his luck and just go to the coast, go anywhere? Here he is with 6 women - 5 of them models and 2 men. I would have at least gone to the coast, looked for a green place, if it's too dangerous, got myself a boat and put sail to an island. Living the rest of my life on a deserted tropical island with 5 models and a nice guy does not sound so bad. Let Warrior Boy take the Redhead and me take the rest of the girls. Max is really mad.
- Instead they decide upon turning back, because somehow they assume that all the warriors are gone and they can "take" the Citadel.
- Even if that is true they are forgetting that the warriors come back and they probably cannot defend themselves against them. But hey - sounds like a plan. Hands were shaken like a bunch of manly dudes with Furiosa and off they went.
- Grannies were killing warriors left and right, because they could shoot with rifles while the boys had bows and arrows.
- At one scene a granny attacks the strongest warrior, he pushes her aside and then throws back Mad Max away like a 10 pound puppet.
- It's good that Furiosa had a better time fighting against another muscular dude, because the fight went well for her as we know that women in this parallel universe are as strong as well-trained men.
- then something inexplicable happened - they entered a narrow strait where there is only room for one car - suddenly all the other cars of the band disappear - just 5 minutes before there were like 30 of them, but then they are all gone. I guess they must have crashed into the mountain, because they are simply gone.
- they manage to kill Immortan Joe easily
- as a final male sacrifice Warrior Boy kills himself completely unnecessarily - as one big warrior rips apart the engine of his truck with bare hands (!) instead of hitting the brakes and letting the big dude fall to his death Warrior Boy decides it is a much better idea to crash the entire truck and kill himself in heroic self-abandonment. He was almost getting somewhere with the Redhead there - she touched his face - I guess in feminist movies touching a man's face is as far as sex will be allowed to go. That schmuck - hitting the brakes and then driving on would have taken care of things.
- then at the Citadel as they arrive with the body of the Immortan Joe the people celebrate Furiosa and rip apart the corpse of their leader who they supposedly before admired
- So let me get this straight: Immortan Joe has an army of warriors, but puts a one armed woman in charge of his army? A woman who is beloved by the people while he is hated by the people? What do you think Stalin would have done?

And the final scene is also interesting. As they release the floodgates and the miraculous water comes down to the people who look like a bunch of emaciated Neanderthals who were released from Auschwitz - as the water flows and we still don't know whether those are finite reserves, some kind of natural source, an underground river - well all flows to the masses and Hail is Furiosa and the matriarchy is saved.

But what does Mad Max get? As he walks off Furiosa looks at him and nods at him. He nods back as equal warriors do, he gets a thankful nod for having risked his life. That's how women roll - not a BJ, not a new car, not a pretty wife is offered to him - a nod will do. A White Knight Mangina is satisfied with that. Men are either stupid brutes who are all content with being white-painted drug-addicted Warrior Boys or they are Manginas. The women are strong, wise, beautiful, powerful - they know much better.

Hail Furiosa!


Ah - I have forgotten the highest piece of equipment in the movie - her bionic arm which on closer inspection does not look very high tech. But I guess it was necessary for the story for a handicapped woman to be the new emperor.

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(05-17-2015 09:48 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Ha, I feel like such a weirdo for having enjoyed the movie.

Nah, don't feel bad for liking it. The fact that the forum isn't a hugbox is one of its best qualities.

I haven't seen the movie, but I'm a little bit concerned that this episode might have turned off guys who might have otherwise been receptive to our views. I think some of this uproar is almost indistinguishable from the "I see misogyny everywhere" that we make fun of feminists for. We win hearts and minds by being rational and using logic, not by becoming the flip side of the same coin and "seeing feminism everywhere".

Of course, feminists DON'T get mocked in the MSM when they whinge about stuff, but they do by the average person in the street. We need to be better than that. More...masculine? If I'm completely off-base, feel free to correct me.

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(05-17-2015 01:05 PM)Teedub Wrote:  ...We win hearts and minds by being rational and using logic, not by becoming the flip side of the same coin and "seeing feminism everywhere".

Of course, feminists DON'T get mocked in the MSM when they whinge about stuff, but they do by the average person in the street. We need to be better than that. More...masculine? If I'm completely off-base, feel free to correct me.

I do.
Part of my movie critique is that it is just plain stupid and badly done.
But part of it is clearly feminist, even the plot and the entire build-up suffered because they absolutely had to make it all about feminism.

If feminists see the movie as a feminist master-piece that passes the Bechtel test with flying colors, if most of us see it as a feminist crap-piece, well then I don't know what to say.

NO - feminism is not everywhere - it was not in Aliens, it was not in Tank Girl and not in Terminator. "Strong" women are not the issue here.

Besides - we will never win "hearts and minds" - Red Pill might seep to men through osmosis and when more women suffer a barren state of spinsterhood, then the pendulum might shift a bit. But don't expect it from the mainstream and academia - they won't budge. You can pander to feminists and SJWs all you want, but you will not win their hearts ever.

Viral articles are helping men find out about the Red Pill as they are going through a bloody divorce or getting nowhere with women being a nice guy. Those are the only men we can help. The rest are beyond help. They will go straight to Blue Pill hell and think that "lack of communication" cost them their marriage. God bless their simple souls as they get ass-raped in prison for not having paid child-support later on.