Post: #26

This the sneak peak on a Vice episode where they discuss white dudes going to 2-3rd tier to cash in. I guess they go through talent agencies. If someone can find the full episode, post it up. My fucking hamster is spinning in mach 5. I would so be down to go over, get a job pretending to be a doctor or some shit, mooch of rich cougars, and network into a solid tech job. If I can get employment lined up prior to arrival, then I'm doing it this summer.

Post: #27

(05-08-2015 07:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Nope. Use Chinese dating websites. Target the ones that are lawyers, managers, businesswomen, etc that are ~28-35, then pipeline their friends, (which are 7 times out of 10 just like them). Either do it before or after you arrive via WeChat, QQ, Weibo, or in person.

Oh sure, I understand that part. What I meant was I would actually have to meet them face to face before they are going to fly me anywhere.

Post: #28

There's also a huge surplus of men too. If you guys want direct insight into dating in China and the lifestyle, check out Randy Flagg's Youtube Channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-G09c9...BNfVRNO3JQ

This guy lives in Shanghai and keeps it 100%. His daily Ratchet videos are hilarious!

Post: #29

(05-08-2015 01:07 PM)gibraltar Wrote:  There's also a huge surplus of men too. If you guys want direct insight into dating in China and the lifestyle, check out Randy Flagg's Youtube Channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-G09c9...BNfVRNO3JQ

This guy lives in Shanghai and keeps it 100%. His daily Ratchet videos are hilarious!

Thanks nice find bro

Post: #30

(05-08-2015 12:36 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 07:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Nope. Use Chinese dating websites. Target the ones that are lawyers, managers, businesswomen, etc that are ~28-35, then pipeline their friends, (which are 7 times out of 10 just like them). Either do it before or after you arrive via WeChat, QQ, Weibo, or in person.

Oh sure, I understand that part. What I meant was I would actually have to meet them face to face before they are going to fly me anywhere.

You may not need to do that either. I have had 1 girl in the past offer me trips before. That said, most do not open up until you actually get there in person.

Post: #31

(05-08-2015 11:33 AM)reco2100 Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 07:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 01:45 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 02:32 AM)Holy(Muff)Diver Wrote:  Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

This is largely true, but my 7 or 8 can be a Chinese man's 6 or 5. For example, I don't give a shit about skin color, they can be dark. I don't need a watermelon-seed shaped face either. Anyway, the opportunity is there (not be funded permanently, but to have one foot the bill for the trip), but I suspect the initial contact has to be made there.

Nope. Use Chinese dating websites. Target the ones that are lawyers, managers, businesswomen, etc that are ~28-35, then pipeline their friends, (which are 7 times out of 10 just like them). Either do it before or after you arrive via WeChat, QQ, Weibo, or in person.

You can fly to China for 1200 or 1100 if you find a good deal and can handle some layovers. One way's can be cheaper sometimes as well. If you hit a homerun one of those women might just buy it for you.

I used to date women like this. 26-33 was the group I targeted exclusively until I realized that you can chase younger and younger, but I digress. There are some really nice gems in that age group. They do require more standard game because some of them are into shittesting and have trust issues up front, but they are not too hard to pass.

How do you get them to introduce you to their friends?

It's extremely easy. Only gets hard to impossible if you meet what I privately call a top WCotY (Wife Candidate of the Year) chick on the hunt for a husband. Usually very intelligent as well. On easier 5-6's it's too easy.

1) First, ask them about their friends.

2) Ask to see pictures of "Shit they have done or places they have gone" with these said friends.

3) Ask them if they have any other English speaking friends or classmates.

4) See if they will introduce you to their brothers or male cousins, then chat to them and see what other friends they have.

5) Look at their Qzone (based on QQ). Wechat, Weibo friends list and try to add their friends. Try not to do it without their permission, otherwise you will be overgaming and get locked out of both women. They will talk about you behind your back, I promise you 100%.

6) If the girl is really stupid, ask to meet her female relatives. I don't recommend this, but if you understand the culture really well, you can figure it out. It can backfire too. Ask Vacancier Permanent about the cousins I got double cock-blocked with trying this a 24 year old and her 18 year old cousin. The temptation can make you lose multiple leads. Just go slow and methodical.

7. Add the brothers and other males you meet via QQ/WeChat/Weibo, and then add their female friends too. Feel it out first. Just be cool about it. Chinese guys talk about basketball and stuff like that. Make light conversation and it goes far.


Too much aggression triggers suspicion, but the cool laowai looking for more friends, especially to practice speaking Chinese-English with, pass all the tests. If you choose to pipeline like this, try not to have too many online candidates on your QQ list. It will look funny. If that chick is just marginal or "meh", let her go. Compared to ground met girls it might stick out too much. If you are an older man, keep a mix of ages on your QQ friends list. If you got 90% girls, all 25 and under, and 10% males, it's a dead giveaway to a sharper female of higher quality as well as older ones you might be trying to keep.

I always tried to keep a mix of males on my list at all times. Sounds funny, but I did this for a good reason. Only one of my girlfriends and the now wife figured it out. The rest had no clue to my knowledge that I was running pipeline game like that.

I even have 9-16 year old boys and girls that I practice English-Chinese with on my friends list. Keep it diverse as much as possible. It throws off the creepy thirst alarm completely. You can meet these randomly or join the many QQ interests groups like the language exchange ones. Keep women in their 30s, 40s, and 50s too if you can find any on your lists.

Chinese women, even if they do not say anything, are still nosy enough. They are very competitive. They might want to know, but culturally it is a big nono to ask someone about others they know like that. They will use passive aggressive talk like, "You have soo many friends...." Just say stuff like, oh they are classmates for my chinese class, or if you are like me, they are all of your girlfriends excluding the kids, who I practice Chinese with.

Smart ones won't believe that all of them are, but dumber ones will. The effect is the same though. Pre-selection, pre-validation, and social proof. All of which are king in China. If they toss that back in your face, just use good game and deflect. Tell them, that you will make time for them, because they are special. figure it out, each girl is different, so figure out which ones to use which response. Some get so jealous, they might make a demand you get rid of the others first. Put them on hold (with some nice music) and get back to them later when their attitude improves. Usually does.... hahaaaaaa. I miss doing this stuff sometimes.....

In person, just flat out offer to go out with their friends sometimes or ask to meet some. 90%+ of the time, they will do this without hesitation. This becomes social circle game immediately. Only a WCotY will deflect and rebuff these requests cleverly. These rarer birds know what they are doing. They are cock blocking without offending you. They want you all to themselves and they do not want you anywhere near their beautiful friends. Not even the less pretty but easier ones. Wanna meet some people they like? She will offer you to meet her dad or some other males.

Don't hate, keep them in the barn and work the others outside in the pasture. One of my gfs loved showing me to other prettier girls she knew because she was sooo insecure and she told me that she knew she could never keep me. She was right. Not listening to her caused us to fight and have a nasty fallout, but I digress.

Other than that, going places and asking women for directions is the best way to essentially day game and pick up more females. Pipelining works best with younger women +or- 3 years before or after college. The older Chinese women get, the smaller their friends circles tend to get. No different than other cultures actually.

I hope this helps.

Edit: I forgot to mention, do not try to game girls that bring along a female friend or best friend on a date, like Pinays. That is a trap and is an automatic backfire. The bring along is pretty much off limits. I know a guy that did that and it blew up in his face and he got no lay out of it. Sounds silly, but for guys that know Filipinas well, you cannot use some of those same tactics on Chinese girls.

Post: #32

Something I forgot to add is that you have to know when and how to friendzone the girls you want to pipeline. It's kinda hard pipelining a girl you are smashing on the regular. Chinese do not have 5-6 hobbies, with each hobby having it's own circles, like Americans do. Their circles are tighter usually. By rule I typically friendzoned any friendly 4, 5's, and 6's I met. 7's if their attitude sucked. Doesn't work very well with hot ones in my opinion. They are really expecting to be chased and flirted with at all times. When you friendzone, don't make it a Hello and Bye relationship. Try to engage them and be truly friendly. From my experience they do not try to get sexual and jump back out the friendzone.

Pipelining Chinese women is alot like playing dominoes. Not all pussy is good pussy, just like how every 5 or 10 play in dominoes is not worth putting on the board when you can lock the game up instead. If you can use some weaker prospects to open up others, like how highly intelligent and socially adept 5's tend to know lots of good looking people, you can reap nice rewards from time to time.

This is just some stuff to keep in mind.

Post: #33

RATE!!!!!




   

Post: #34

(05-08-2015 04:16 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Something I forgot to add is that you have to know when and how to friendzone the girls you want to pipeline. It's kinda hard pipelining a girl you are smashing on the regular. Chinese do not have 5-6 hobbies, with each hobby having it's own circles, like Americans do. Their circles are tighter usually. By rule I typically friendzoned any friendly 4, 5's, and 6's I met. 7's if their attitude sucked. Doesn't work very well with hot ones in my opinion. They are really expecting to be chased and flirted with at all times. When you friendzone, don't make it a Hello and Bye relationship. Try to engage them and be truly friendly. From my experience they do not try to get sexual and jump back out the friendzone.

Pipelining Chinese women is alot like playing dominoes. Not all pussy is good pussy, just like how every 5 or 10 play in dominoes is worth putting on the board when you can lock the game up instead. If you can use some weaker prospects to open up others, like how highly intelligent and socially adept 5's tend to know lots of good looking people, you can reap nice rewards from time to time.

This is just some stuff to keep in mind.

This is so awesome. Some next level shit here.

Post: #35

(05-08-2015 04:44 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  RATE!!!!!

Cute girls. The one on the right needs more sleep, she has what Chinese call "Panda Eyes" LOL. She gives off the fun/party girl vibe. Without the makeup I would bet a very solid 7. With it I say 8. She is taller too, but without seeing more I cannot score higher or more certain.

The one on the left though. ahhhhh she hits all my fetish markers with that hair. In my brain I would chase her as if she were a 10. Funny because if she grew out her hair more, she would be strong 9 material. 10-ish if she tightened up those arms without losing those large breasts she has. Her makeup is not even as heavy as her friend's. You can tell she isn't stuffing her bra! Some of us have been saying it. Chinese women are getting bigger breasts...

Post: #36

Would you consider them average talent for a major metro like Chengdu, or are they leaning toward top shelf? I'd fuck the one on the right with reckless abandon. I love that party girl look.

Post: #37

(05-08-2015 04:44 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  RATE!!!!!

I like both of them, but the one on the left does it more for me - I like her eyes. I bet if you showed that photos to a Chinese FOB they would probably consider them a 6 or 7 for according their standards. They have different standards of beauty compared to non-Chinese. Personally, I think Chinese like their women too skinny.

Post: #38

If you want girls like those in the pictures just go to Taiwan.

Post: #39

The cheapest flights I've found from Houston are $1k for a 28 hr trip (EVA Air), and $1200 for a 19 hour trip (Air Asia).

This isn't the first time I've considered a trip over there.

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I don't see a lot of expat activity for Chengdu, but that's alright. My plan of attack is straightforward and simple: To plow through the high end hotel bars/venues for 3 weeks until a lock down a wealthy Chinese cougar.

1. Best Scenario- I get one to sponsor me while I network for a legit tech job.

2. Worst Scenario- I make some solid ground and get her to fly me back at some point.

Failure is not an option. I will endeavor to persevere.

Ancillary Tasks:

1. Pipeline normal girls.
2. Research all Fortune 500 companies in Chengdu to knock on doors.

This is going to be a big gamble, but I've got the experience to go far on a 3 week mission.

Post: #40

(05-08-2015 05:25 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Would you consider them average talent for a major metro like Chengdu, or are they leaning toward top shelf? I'd fuck the one on the right with reckless abandon. I love that party girl look.

Chengdu women are not really as tall as that chick is. She looks more Northern/North-Central/NE looking. I could be wrong, but they are probably not Southern or SW Chinese.

Chongqing is right next to Chengdu and they have the prettiest women of all of China. Those gals blow both of those gals out of the water. These girls are above average I would say, hence the scores I gave them. Some chinese men would not score them as high but some of them would score them like we do. If these girls are 27+, then their scores would be mostly because of their age. Most Chinese men want younger > prettier any day of the week.

Post: #41

I'll be in Chongqing for a few days during the next two weeks, before bouncing down to Lijiang to take in some Yunnan (SW Chinese, minority ethnicities) culture for perhaps 4-5 days. Looking forward to having a look around, though I am traveling with my girl and will mostly be on best behavior.

CQ does have the rep of the fair skin beauties - doubtful that the girl on the right would be a CQ girl. She also doesn't look like the type who would age very well, she's probably already peaked and is going into the gentle slide that many asian women benefit from, though her slide might be a bit more steep (see the neck lines?). If you told me the girl on the right was from Taipei, I wouldn't argue with that, but she's heavily done up with the dyed hair, and hence she's harder to pinpoint other than to say that she's been living in a bigger city. The only reason that I don't necessarily think she'd be dongbei is that she seems to be taking fashion cues from Japanese culture. Who knows though. That, like El Cid says (and the freckles) speaks more Taiwan to me than anything else (but heritage wouldn't have to be Fujian, could be anywhere in China).

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kai's girl on the left were a CQ girl. I've known a few girls from Sichuan and CQ who had that very look, with the fair skin and gentle features (and the nice rack).

More to the topic at hand, I literally made a living banging girls in their mid-to-late 20s in Shenzhen (being 43-44, myself - which is not to say that younger girls weren't available. They were, and I (we) did). They still compared immensely favorably to their western counterparts, and I'm not talking village girls with limited options, but professional girls. (Kai has seem some photos). High quality looks, strong sexual appetites (once whetted properly) and still highly feminine and willing to take care of their men.

Be careful to take off the western lenses from your shit-colored glasses. China is a male-dominated culture. The women aren't ruined yet - and the reason these women are left over is based on Chinese male choices, for the most part, and perhaps to a lesser degree the BMW culture China has developed (though I think thats the case in Shanghai and less so in other cities).

Ali, the most important thing you can do to be successful on your mission (and you can be), is to try to develop a cultural understanding of the Chinese, what types of behaviors are acceptable, what isn't, and then adhere to that as much as possible. Its far more important, given the cohort of your targets, educated women who likely speak English decently, than your looks, your wallet, and your Chinese language ability. But embarrass them one time as a foreign barbarian, and all the work you put in to catch your cougar by the toe will likely go up in smoke in an instant.

Post: #42

(05-08-2015 10:35 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 01:45 PM)Menace Wrote:  This is largely true, but my 7 or 8 can be a Chinese man's 6 or 5. For example, I don't give a shit about skin color, they can be dark. I don't need a watermelon-seed shaped face either. Anyway, the opportunity is there (not be funded permanently, but to have one foot the bill for the trip), but I suspect the initial contact has to be made there.

This! 1,000X

I learned long ago to please myself FIRST, and worry about pleasing the crowd later.

I'd still be running after "unattainable" AKA's if I had listened to the crowd.

WIA

Post: #43

(05-08-2015 11:40 PM)Global Entry Wrote:  More to the topic at hand, I literally made a living banging girls in their mid-to-late 20s in Shenzhen (being 43-44, myself - which is not to say that younger girls weren't available. They were, and I (we) did).

This is my goal. I'll be limited time/finances. The oilfield went to shit and took OT with it. This will my first trip in over a decade I won't have a baller bankroll.

(05-08-2015 11:40 PM)Global Entry Wrote:  Ali, the most important thing you can do to be successful on your mission (and you can be), is to try to develop a cultural understanding of the Chinese, what types of behaviors are acceptable, what isn't, and then adhere to that as much as possible. Its far more, given the cohort of your targets, educated women who likely speak English decently, than your looks, your wallet, and your Chinese ability. But embarrass them one time as a foreign barbarian, and all the work you put in to catch your cougar by the toe will likely go up in smoke in an instant.

I adapted quickly to Japanese and ME cultures. I'm not too familiar with the Chinese, but will have a few months to study up and be prepared. It'll be an all or nothing trip, so total preparation will be crucial.

Post: #44

OK, maybe I was half wrong in my previous post.

One chick I fucked recently was a 35-yr-old living in Guangzhou. With some inspiration from this thread, I asked about her living situation, if she has any roommates, etc. She said no. Then I asked if I could move in with her. She says yes. My apartment lease is about to end, and I don't really want to extend or pay up the money, so I'm highly considering moving in with her.

There are a few problems with this, however: 1) She might be a bit crazy. She talked about marriage and having babies probably 10 minutes after I met her. 2) She's not really my type. She's a bit "thick" for a Chinese chick, as in big tits (for Asians) and wide hips, nice ass, but small waist. She has slightly tanned skin. Typical Southern Guangdong Chinese woman. I usually go for taller, porcelain white-skinned, thin beauties. I'm sure most dudes on here wouldn't hesitate to fuck the shit outta this chick though.

What could I potentially get myself into if I moved in with her for a few months? Crazy, obsessive stalker? Dick cut off? Could I come back to her apartment after working one day to find all my shit gone? Also, how should I lay out and establish some ground rules, like I won't help out with the rent at all? And how would I bang other chicks? I'd appreciate some input lol.

Post: #45

Had a sight unseen offer to marry into a uber-wealthy Taiwanese family (girl was in her mid 20s). I think the # thrown around was 1MM for me. I passed.

Hey, if I can no longer clear 6 figs in the USA, I can go to Asia and marry rich!!!!

Post: #46

(05-06-2015 02:47 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  This post makes me feel old.

You should go to the Phillipines or something.

Post: #47

(05-08-2015 05:34 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 04:44 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  RATE!!!!!

I like both of them, but the one on the left does it more for me - I like her eyes. I bet if you showed that photos to a Chinese FOB they would probably consider them a 6 or 7 for according their standards. They have different standards of beauty compared to non-Chinese. Personally, I think Chinese like their women too skinny.

Same here. I hate heavy make-up so the one on the right got dinged for that. Need the all natural look. Less attention whorish.

Post: #48

Look: Lifestyles of China's wealthiest, through the lens of an American photographer


10/10 WB?

Post: #49

In my city. These girls are everywhere.





I just creeped some of these girls from university on instagram to see what they are up to and its just the same. Buying Ferrari's, trips to the Maldives and girls weekends to LA. Never produced anything of value other than keeping European luxury goods shops here in sales.

No hate though, they keep my business in business.

Post: #50

This is funny because in the city I live in (in North America) you will find 28 year old women on Okcupid typically responding to the match question "Do you want to have kids?" with the answer "Yes someday... Not anytime soon though", I shit you not.