Post: #26

(03-23-2016 06:00 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 04:43 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 07:12 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  Sp5 you are a lawyer correct? Any chance you can get in touch with his lawyers?

Yeah, I could, but I bet he's already getting plenty of unsolicited advice from people out of the internet. He's got the right goal, even though he's taking a strange path from this limited view. There might be some tactical reasons related to the lawyer ethical standards for prosecutors he's got in mind. He already cited them in his motion.

This is looking like a borderline Duke/Nifong case. The problem is the girls can just dig in and and say "Yeah, we said all of that stuff because he really did raaaape us!" The girls can't recant because that opens the door to false report and perjury charges.

Damn prosecutor might just try to make him look like a heartless kid and get a redneck jury too.

I can't see a jury convicting the kid unless there's more evidence than she-said, though.

I'm more surprised this kid is being held without bail. Given all of the BS he said she said, he should have been allowed bail. His lawyer absolutely sucks.

If he is convicted as a serial rapist, i assume he could get the death penalty. I assume it is because of 13 alleged victims. If it was a real rapist, then yeah, it would be totally justified, but this clearly is a fake rape accusation. When it is clearly this fake, we need new laws to actually punish the girls who orchestrate this sort of vendetta.

Post: #27

(04-07-2015 07:05 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  You know I never get worked-up when reading these things but this one gets me for some reason. I think it's the fact that the prosecutor is knowingly and still willingly putting an innocent man behind bars. What the fuck is this shit?

This happens far more than anyone would like to admit.

The 'view' is that it would be a 'problem' for the prosecution to admit they were wrong and look bad, so they continue on in spite of being in the wrong.

Post: #28

That poor guy has been in jail almost 2 years and hasn't even been convicted of a crime.

Those girls who falsely accused him should go to jail for 10x the years hes been in jail PLUS how long he would have went to jail if convicted

13 rapes equals death penalty as far as I know should those girls should be executed.

This will never happen but I truly hope justice will prevail in the next life.

Post: #29

So let's say best case scenario, trial comes, he gets freed of the charges, can't he sue the state for damages? Like a couple mil or something? And I imagine these lying cunts won't get any kind of punishment.

Post: #30

One of my pet peeves regarding this are overzealous prosecutors who deny a man his freedom.

In cases like this, the prosecution should be punished very severely up to and including disbarment and potential jail time for themselves. They should not be allowed to continue practicing.

The girls deserve treble penalties for lying. He's been in prison for 2 years without a trial. They should be in prison for 6 years.

Post: #31

(03-23-2016 11:23 AM)The Laughing Man Wrote:  So let's say best case scenario, trial comes, he gets freed of the charges, can't he sue the state for damages? Like a couple mil or something? And I imagine these lying cunts won't get any kind of punishment.

Arizona prosecution does NOT drop charges. Many cases similar to this are ongoing so frequently and hardly any get dropped or dismissed.
It is an insult to the "padding of the resume" for a prosecutor to have no "convictions" under his belt.

Think of it as a car salesman selling many cars but instead replace the cars with convictions and car salesman with a prosecutor and you get/understand why the prosecution will fight tooth and nail to...nail someone no matter the type of case.

Alot of empty private prisons need filling up and there is no length the "system" here will go to to ensure beds get filled.

Post: #32

(04-07-2015 08:17 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I wish I could make all men read those gleeful chats, so that they could get the least, faintest, inkling of this fact about female nature -- to be almost completely forgotten almost at once, but maybe some minute trace of it would remain and that is better than nothing.

Your typical Gamma would bend over backwards to rationalize their chats. Never under estimate thirst and envy. How familiar are you with the attacks on Roosh coming from certain sectors of the Alt Right? Otherwise intelligent, free-thinking men, free of most contemporary prejudices, bending themselves into pretzels to find any excuse they could to hate him. It was shocking and dismaying. Or think of Thomas Sowell's criticisms of Trump - they sound downright leftist, don't they? He's one of the leading lights of libertarian/conservatism, and he's angry at Trump for making money!

With the case of these women, I have a mental image of a specific person I knew, speaking in a calm, measured tone as sweat beads off his forehead, as he tries to apply reasonable doubt to the accusation of filing a false report on their behalf - sidestepping the issue that this young man is the one who deserves reasonable doubt.

The goddamned pod people are everywhere. They seem rational until you trigger them; then watch the dissembling occur.

(04-07-2015 08:12 PM)OBERYN_ Wrote:  What absolutely sinister behavior from those cunts and the prosecution. Like another said, this story is strangely extra-hard hitting.

Confession time, despite a general acceptance on this board that 18-22 pussy is the top of the totem poll, I'm not chasing it anymore. I've been intensely red pill my whole life but never really applied any sort of game to girls until recently. I was always content with steady relationships (still am, actually). I hooked up with one 18 year old this month and even at my age (29) the disconnect between us was so profound that I felt I was dealing with someone who could be dangerous. Asking if I could be her ManCrushMonday on instagram, texting the word "bae", and the whole host of late teen parlance. I'm out, guys. Young girls scare the hell out of me now. Many of you may have an age threshold. Now I do, too, 23 and up. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but college undergrads seem WAY too unstable.

Also, this girl goes to GWU so she's not entirely mentally handicapped.

Agreed; I dated an 18 year old a few years back, and while she was insanely hot (one of the benefits of aging - they get hotter), she was also a complete moron divorced from reality and utterly unaware of consequences. I was glad to see her eventually flake off.

I stick to women in the 24/25 range, though I might make an exception for a younger woman whom I met through her parents. If you win over her parents, even if things go South, they probably won't turn out that poorly.

Post: #33

The kid's been in jail for a year now. According to the defense motions I read here, the defense can't just subpoena or ask for a court order for Facebook records, they have to depend on the prosecution. Facebook's policy is only to give full subscriber material to law enforcement.

I'm no lawyer, but I've been involved in criminal court cases a few times.

IIRC, Prosecution only has to give evidence to the Defense if they plan on submitting it to the court as evidence for the Prosecution's case. This is the number one way most cases get postponed for requested continuances when either the Prosecution or Defense enter new evidence to the court.

One side or the other will ask for the continuance to review the new evidence. It's often a stalling tactic for one side or the other to ask for the continuance since they didn't have the chance to review the new evidence. I've seen Judges angrily interrogate council as to why they didn't review the new evidence and deny motions for continuance because council doesn't have a good enough reason why they didn't review the evidence if they supposedly had the time.

In this case, since Facebook will not cooperate with non-Gov (Facebook IS a "quasi-Governement" agency harvesting data for Uncle NSA in my book,) so the Defense can't do anything unless Prosecution enters the Facebook chats in question into evidence.

Of course, a Prosecution worried about real Justice and Truth should be looking at these records and freakin' dropping the case....but Prosecutors are usually more worried about conviction %'s fpor their career. If they got enough evidence to possibly get a conviction and they don't enter exculpatory evidence into the case that the Defense could use for exoneration....we got Nifong situation all over again.

I loathe Prosecutors.

Post: #34

This is why whenever there's a rape accusation, I automatically think it's bullshit. Because this shit literally happens every day. It's probably happening somewhere right now as I type this.

Post: #35

(04-07-2015 04:30 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 03:51 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  This kid has been in jail for a year as a multiple rapist when the prosecution knew about these little chats between the "victims" before they made their charges.

Isn't this the sort of thing that got Mike Nifong disbarred?

I'd believe so. In legal proceedings, you are required to share all relevant evidence or research that you uncover even if it has a negative influence on your case.

Post: #36

Bloody hell this is pure evil.The kid would be having a fucken rough time inside.
Maybe the prosecuters know they will get sued. Those girls deserve jail time.

Post: #37

FUCK ME DEAD... this poor kid i still in jail!!!

Post: #38

Even if the girls conspired to keep him locked because he is a "player",
he is still locked up until summer 2016:

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona...3845-story

Post: #39

According to the "Free Tyler Kost" Facebook page, the actual trial isn't supposed to start until February 9, 2017!

I'm not making this shit up. This kid will have sat in prison for three years without bail.

Post: #40

None of the articles I've read about this kid mention if there was any DNA evidence.

Does anyone know if there was? And/or is anyone here close to this trial, or any of the people involved? If so, I have some ideas. Message me.

If there is no DNA, the thought that a bunch of women can put you in prison just because they said so, should strike fear into everyone here. This could be anyone.

This is getting more and more like the daycare witch trials of the 1980s, where child care workers were imprisoned on charges that seemed dubious then and ridiculous now (i.e. satanic rituals). Frightening.

I also wonder if this thread should be moved to the private section? I have some ideas I'd prefer not to share with the world.

Post: #41

Man this is fucking ridiculous.

Post: #42

definitely something must be done about this. I don't have words for how unfair this is

Post: #43

I am nowhere near where I want to be with women.

A lot of us come from difficult situations that we have to work our way out of.

This can lead to a lot of jealousy and envy when you read about players at just 18 years of age making such an impact on 13 girls that they all collude to get him imprisoned for life or executed. Who knows how many other girls he has been intimately involved with.

Some posters have rightly stated core disadvantages of being a woman in western society, because it's easy to envy them for men being relegated to 2nd class citizens in comparison, so easy to ruminate on all the injustices. It can stir up a hatred of women that may have some roots in truth but is ultimately counterproductive.

I haven't read many posts, though, about the disadvantages of being a natural player at 18, chewing through chicks left and right with not a care in the world.

Here we read a sobering story, and it's not as uncommon as we would like to think. Hurt females are capable of doing almost anything to get back at the source of that pain. Regret = rape is everywhere. Heck, some of the girls who do it are so hurt, because the pain seems so real, so all-encompassing, that she starts to believe her own fiction herself.

Slut walks, kangaroo courts at universities, these are all just indicators of the wider problem. Zero responsibility but 100% of the rights. You talked to a man and you feel bad because you're fat an ugly? His fault. He harrassed you. You had sex with a player and he dumped you and you feel bad? He raped you. You're bored of your life as a coddled, suburban soccer mom so you fuck the pool guy and your husband finds out? Pool guy raped you and if he didn't it was your husband's fault for not having the energy for sex after working flat out from 8-6 every day to keep up with the mortgage payments, bills and unnecessary bullshit you buy.

No man is safe. A lot of western women may be sluts, which means quicker lays, but the more you go through the greater the chance you catch some variation of this at some point. It's still low, but still high enough to make me quite hesitant. Imagine you're a natural in USA/UK/AU today, you're 18 years old and you start to rack up crazy numbers until you turn thirties, maybe a few hundred. It only takes one of these to ruin your life.

Post: #44

To be a player is very hard work:

When a good looking guy asked 100 girls for sex: 0 said yes





To be a slut is effortless.
When a normal girl asked 100 guys for sex: 82 said yes

Post: #45

In addition to all that effort, even if the guy "succeeds", and the girl "feels bad" at any point without any illegal act having ever been committed on the part of the guy, he can rot in jail.

We all knew that being male, at cold approach, your success rate starts at 0% and works up from there. Female, your success rate starts at 100% and works down from there. (If you take out a lot of rejections which happen because guys think they are being pranked, that it is "too good to be true", sort of like finding 10 grand just lying in the middle of the street and being hesitant to pick it up.)

The message from Arizona and the US as a whole seems clear: "no matter how hard you have worked, no matter what your accomplishments, no matter what excruciating adversity you have been through, the word of one single woman can ruin your life."

In this sense you can at least empathize with some of the ideas of MGTOW. Stories like this are so fucked up it can lead to paranoia, social withdrawal, along the lines of the "Exodus" article IIRC on breitbart.

Post: #46

He may be getting a bond hearing on July 7th, but for fucks sake, he's been in jail for 3 years, with zero evidence of a crime, and plenty of evidence that the girls are all lying as part of a sick game.

Post: #47

This is absolutely insane and wrong.

Post: #48

Bumping this thread with some bad news:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loca.../96270776/

Post: #49

(01-07-2017 11:33 PM)They Call Me Mister Tony Wrote:  Bumping this thread with some bad news:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loca.../96270776/

There is some silver lining, from this article:

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-central...ads-guilty

Quote:"This is a plea in which this young man still potentially faces additional prison time," Pinal County Attorney Kent Volkmer said. "He will serve no less than three years in prison, no more than seven and a half, it will be followed by 15 years of probation."

Kost has spent most of the last two years behind bars.

Kost's defense team alleged the 13 girls involved in the case conspired to frame him for "being a player." In court, prosecutors said there were only five victims in this case, and there was no conspiracy against him.

His sentencing is scheduled for February 10th. He could be eligible for release at that time, based on time he's already served.

ABC15 learned Kost will not have to register as a sex offender.

I imagine his defense took the plea deal figuring that he will get off with time served during the sentencing and -- crucially -- will not have to register. It's a way for the despicable corrupt prosecutors to save face and justify the terrible evil that they have committed by holding this kid in jail for 3 years.

One wishes there was a way to punish the prosecutors and everyone else involved in this case with the severity that they deserve.

Post: #50

But if he accepts that, is he not officially admitting to these fabricated charges? Yes, it's pragmatic and you can see why at this point a lawyer would advise it, but his lawyer from the outset I suspect was quite shit to not get him bail at least.

The only advantage of this I saw was that Kost, upon proven innocent, could sue the prosecutors for millions. This possibility would surely be destroyed with a plea deal.

I find twisted irony in the fact that so many men worldwide aspire to have great game and to be players, but here we have seen an example of a player who, perhaps, had game that was just a bit too good. Making some of them fall hopelessly in love and then dumping them for one of their friends over and over again, top game to be applauded, created some pissed off lizards, and was thus his great downfall. What a truly sad case.