Post: #26

On a lighter note, this Indian comedy group posted a great response.

Post: #27

Excellent breakdown Slim, I go to India regularly and I see the same shit.

The entertainment industry and the English speaking news media are the bigest culprits in this toxic ideological spread.

(04-05-2015 05:45 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  Decent Indian chicks ARE starting to buy into this BS.

The fact that some forum members themselves write India off as some "acid throwing, rapist haven" is telling. The western ploy to weaken India, make it look like a backwards patriarchy, and thus open it up for a feminist barrage has worked somewhat. I have been going to India every year for a month or so for the last many years. Every year I am more disheartened by how feminist values have taken root.

India is ruled by the entertainers. Everyday young people are bombarded with sex and feminism. On the TV, in the movies, in their songs, on their billboards. Every year I see more ads and scenes in movies idolizing white knighting, and demonizing men.

Indian media used to be always about white knighting, sure. But it was about white knighting the pure and virtuous damsel in distress. Now it is about white knighting for sluts. I see girls get fatter and older and stay unmarried, pursuing their professions. They post statuses on Facebook about how they are independent and need no man, even though they are still living under their Father's roof and spending a lot of his money to go out late on weekends.. I see posts from "good" Indian girls about how it is a double standard to differentiate between brides to be who have slept around, and grooms who have slept around. There is an enormous spike in pre-marital relationships that last for years. The social circle I hang out with in Mumbai is full of 28 year old guys and girls that have been in relationships since college but fear marriage.

The old Indian patriarchy was all about respecting and protecting women - who played their role. Women were meant to perform the ultimate sacrifices in becoming the strongest support system first for their family, and then for their husband and his family. They were respected because they were supposed to be virtuous. So when feminist campaigns are launched in India even the old timers often are unable to see that they are not about respecting women, but forgiving non-traditional behaviors and demonizing men. So now you have the support of both the young "revolutionaries" and illusioned older people.

Yet people actually aren't HAVING as much sex as they are shown, because a lot of young people still live with their parents. This means that even when they have girlfriends, they have to wait for special occasions to have sex [vacations, lying about staying at their buddy's house, parents out of town, what people in the US would call High School stuff]. There really isn't a lot of picking up girls at the club and taking them home for a same night lay - the kind of encounter that could lead to these so called ambiguous sexual encounters. So if there is not much of a threat of this ever even occurring, then why are these kind of videos being made? It is to make girls paranoid and arrogant. To scare the into feminism. The threat need not be there, as long as their agenda is pushed. If their agenda is accepted then their political parties and commercial products are endorsed.

You watch regular daytime TV in India these days, and it's like watching nighttime TV in the US. Sex is everywhere. You are bombarded with it. But it's only for the girls right? They should have the right to seek out these male models while the men jerk it in their bathrooms. This is how the IRT comes about too. He sees sex everywhere, but can't have it. He becomes a horny schoolboy that licks the soles of girls' shoes.

Man FUCK this chick. I have never been a fan of hers. She is famous for selling sex and her body. She is an entitled cunt on the same level as Priyanka Chopra, both famous only because of their connections to male superstar Shahrukh Khan - who is the biggest movie star in the world.

Thankfully I saw many of my "hot" Indian girl-friends posting the following response to the video:

"Deepika Padukone’s video for Vogue is not empowering—it’s hypocritical" which is written by a woman.

http://qz.com/372373/deepika-padukones-v...ocritical/

India needs to wise up to feminism. Stay on their toes. I do my best personally to spread the truth every time I am in Mumbai. That's all I can do right now to try to save my culture.

Post: #28

(04-05-2015 05:51 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  On a lighter note, this Indian comedy group posted a great response.

Brilliant!

On another note, there's some serious shit going on in India regarding the 498A law.

Post: #29

The video is terrible and it just doesn’t come across as “Indian” to me. It bears the imprint of a foreign production.

The video has had around 7 million views, and the population of India is around 1.2 billion. I think there’s a bit of an exaggeration as to how big of an influence feminism has. This video is in English and the majority Indians do not understand English, or consume media in English. The vast majority also do not watch Hollywood movies.

Slim Shady seems to interact with the educated English speaking upper middle class/elite Indians. That’s a very small segment of Indian population. Most is rural and very conservative. A lot of the shit that said in the video won’t fly with the majority of Indian men.

My extended family is from the village in India and I know that the people over there basically have their daughters on lockdown. Apart from going to the shops and college, they’re not allowed to go anywhere on their own. They’re not allowed to date and they have arranged marriages. They’re not allowed to wear western clothes. They’re raised to take care of men – father, brothers, male cousins, future husbands. They’re supposed to marry, have kids and not have a career. That’s how life is for the vast majority of Indian village women.

If any village woman tried what Deepika Padukone is promoting, she would feel the back of male hand or worse very fast – I don’t agree with violence towards women, but that’s how it is over there. You’re about as likely to see change in most North Indian villages as you are in Saudi Arabia.

What disgusts me how a lot of Bollywood is always copying the US. Those fuckers should have some self respect.

The ruling party in India is very conservative and doesn’t support gay rights so I can’t see any pro gay marriage laws being passed there. Homosexuality is illegal in India.

Why doesn’t Deepika concentrate on something important like child poverty/malnutrition instead of this SJW bullshit?

Post: #30

Yes WalterBlack, I was talking mainly about the urban/educated/westernized/"elite" populations.

I understand that things are very different in the rural areas. Most of the people there would not even speak English and even watch this video on YouTube.

However there is a movement from the west to bring feminism to the villages as well, just like there was a moment by the west to bring Christianity to Indian villages. Instead of the church, it is now feminist missionaries that are coming to India [maybe more in the southern parts than in the northern parts for now]. These missionaries are just regular feminist college girls/recent graduates from the US, etc that come to India believing themselves to be righteous liberators.

Is there still a real problem in India with regard to educating women and granting them equal rights in the villages? Yes. Marriage rights, dowry, abuse of the bride, etc are still problems in some parts, though I do not believe they are nearly as bad as the media makes them out to be.

If these feminists from the west were sticking to making sure that these girls in villages got a respectable education - so that they could find a regular job as say a secretary or bank teller so that they could support their family and not be a "burden" that has to be married away, then fine. But if the feminists are controlling your general education, what else are they teaching these girls?

This feminist problem might not be widespread in the villages yet, but westernization always happens in the cities first, and then an attempt is made to attack the country at large. Nobody used to drink Coca-Cola in India. Now every village idiot knows about it. I'm sure it started in the city.

By recruiting Bollywood celebrities they are also creating educated missionaries within India. I am sure that a lot of villages would not be okay with some white chick coming into town and teaching their girls. White girls are looked upon as corrupt in a lot of places. But if an educated Indian girl from Mumbai or Delhi came along with a company of white knights they would listen to her every word. If you indoctrinate the cities you gain access to the real heart of India - the villages.

Another platform the feminist agenda has been using is the super popular TV show "Kaun Banega Crorepati" hosted by Amitabh Bachchan - the Indian version of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". Amitabh is the most trusted face in India, and arguably the biggest movie star in the country. His show is famous for bringing the cause of the "common man" out to the forefront. It is not just a game show like it is in the USA. It is a cultural phenomenon, a juggernaut. Most of his contestants are poor people, and he often has contestants that come from poverty stricken villages. He uses them often to bring to light some real problems happening in India that noone else is talking about. His show is watched by everyone in the cities and the villages, and they eat up his message.

Amitabh has [I believe unknowingly] sold out to the feminist cause. There is constant highlighting of feminist issues on the show. At first I thought it was valid because there are real problems in the villages, but it really has become too much. He often has celebrities like the cunt Priyanka Chopra come on and spout western feminist talking points ON BEHALF of the women who have actually suffered, who just sit quietly on the side. These women's causes are being used as an excuse for people like Priyanka and Deepika to attention whore and spread their agenda. When I saw than even KBC had become feminist, I knew that there was trouble.

Again, most men in the heart of the country don't buy this crap. But a lot of young people have been made to feel guilty. When you feel guilty, feel like a monster, you try to shed all that you believed in your time as a monster. This is the perfect time for indoctrinating a new belief system that makes up for this guilt. The current generation of parents and grandparents might still be old school, but in a few years the young generation will be in charge. If they are guilty, they will be more accepting of feminists ideas, even if they themselves are not feminist.

India needs to watch out.

Edit: Also, I highlighted the problems of the cities because those are the Indians the people on the forum are most likely to interact with. These are the people who will be in your offices and your Universities. These will be the girls you might want to bang. If anyone on the forum can go to rural India and bang a village beauty, that would be quite an achievement I think.

Post: #31

I prefer to focus on the positive points she made:

1. Premarital sex is fine.
2. Getting an abortion is fine.

I think this is a message more Indian women, particularly the hot middle/upper class ones in major cities, need to hear.

Post: #32

(04-06-2015 07:09 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  Yes WalterBlack, I was talking mainly about the urban/educated/westernized/"elite" populations.

I understand that things are very different in the rural areas. Most of the people there would not even speak English and even watch this video on YouTube.

However there is a movement from the west to bring feminism to the villages as well, just like there was a moment by the west to bring Christianity to Indian villages. Instead of the church, it is now feminist missionaries that are coming to India [maybe more in the southern parts than in the northern parts for now]. These missionaries are just regular feminist college girls/recent graduates from the US, etc that come to India believing themselves to be righteous liberators.

Is there still a real problem in India with regard to educating women and granting them equal rights in the villages? Yes. Marriage rights, dowry, abuse of the bride, etc are still problems in some parts, though I do not believe they are nearly as bad as the media makes them out to be.

If these feminists from the west were sticking to making sure that these girls in villages got a respectable education - so that they could find a regular job as say a secretary or bank teller so that they could support their family and not be a "burden" that has to be married away, then fine. But if the feminists are controlling your general education, what else are they teaching these girls?

This feminist problem might not be widespread in the villages yet, but westernization always happens in the cities first, and then an attempt is made to attack the country at large. Nobody used to drink Coca-Cola in India. Now every village idiot knows about it. I'm sure it started in the city.

By recruiting Bollywood celebrities they are also creating educated missionaries within India. I am sure that a lot of villages would not be okay with some white chick coming into town and teaching their girls. White girls are looked upon as corrupt in a lot of places. But if an educated Indian girl from Mumbai or Delhi came along with a company of white knights they would listen to her every word. If you indoctrinate the cities you gain access to the real heart of India - the villages.

Another platform the feminist agenda has been using is the super popular TV show "Kaun Banega Crorepati" hosted by Amitabh Bachchan - the Indian version of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". Amitabh is the most trusted face in India, and arguably the biggest movie star in the country. His show is famous for bringing the cause of the "common man" out to the forefront. It is not just a game show like it is in the USA. It is a cultural phenomenon, a juggernaut. Most of his contestants are poor people, and he often has contestants that come from poverty stricken villages. He uses them often to bring to light some real problems happening in India that noone else is talking about. His show is watched by everyone in the cities and the villages, and they eat up his message.

Amitabh has [I believe unknowingly] sold out to the feminist cause. There is constant highlighting of feminist issues on the show. At first I thought it was valid because there are real problems in the villages, but it really has become too much. He often has celebrities like the cunt Priyanka Chopra come on and spout western feminist talking points ON BEHALF of the women who have actually suffered, who just sit quietly on the side. These women's causes are being used as an excuse for people like Priyanka and Deepika to attention whore and spread their agenda. When I saw than even KBC had become feminist, I knew that there was trouble.

Again, most men in the heart of the country don't buy this crap. But a lot of young people have been made to feel guilty. When you feel guilty, feel like a monster, you try to shed all that you believed in your time as a monster. This is the perfect time for indoctrinating a new belief system that makes up for this guilt. The current generation of parents and grandparents might still be old school, but in a few years the young generation will be in charge. If they are guilty, they will be more accepting of feminists ideas, even if they themselves are not feminist.

India needs to watch out.

Edit: Also, I highlighted the problems of the cities because those are the Indians the people on the forum are most likely to interact with. These are the people who will be in your offices and your Universities. These will be the girls you might want to bang. If anyone on the forum can go to rural India and bang a village beauty, that would be quite an achievement I think.

A lot of village women find the idea of a woman working ludicrous. College is something they do to keep them occupied before they get married. Village girls are allowed to go to colleges in the local town , but they are picked up by male relatives as soon as class is over.

I’m sure that you know in Indian culture is that one way a family projects is respected in the community is by the way its daughters behave. There’s no chance in hell the women will be allowed to engage in pre marital sex or have abortions. If any woman comes into villages and starts feminist stuff, she will be chased out of the village. Villagers drinking coke and letting their daughters slut it up are two different things. Coke probably took off in India because it tastes good and it's sweet! Indians love sugar!

Some village girls can be banged, but they’re really only open to banging guys that went to school with their brothers or cousins. It’s all social circle stuff.

(04-06-2015 07:19 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  I prefer to focus on the positive points she made:

1. Premarital sex is fine.
2. Getting an abortion is fine.

I think this is a message more Indian women, particularly the hot middle/upper class ones in major cities, need to hear.

I’ve never really moved in those circles, but upper class women are probably looser than village girls. They have their own places and money and have a lot more freedom.

Post: #33

WalterBlack, you are right about how strict most Indians in rural parts are with their daughters. You are right that her behavior is supposed to reflect the respect the family receives.

Even if we ignore my village infiltration conspiracy theory, just look at the cities. These are the girls that 99.99% of the people on the forum will interact with or have affect their lives. India will become more progressive, that can not be stopped at this point. What can be stopped however is Indian women becoming cunts.

If India becomes progressive in the "right" way, maybe it could become a great place for young men to have a good time, and have fun with beautiful girls in the cities. If it becomes progressive in the wrong way, you're just going to get fat and ugly Indian chicks in the clubs. There is a potential for millions of potential lays opening up. It's a mostly untapped market, and it is currently at a critical point in it's social progress.

Post: #34

(04-06-2015 08:34 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  WalterBlack, you are right about how strict most Indians in rural parts are with their daughters. You are right that her behavior is supposed to reflect the respect the family receives.

Even if we ignore my village infiltration conspiracy theory, just look at the cities. These are the girls that 99.99% of the people on the forum will interact with or have affect their lives. India will become more progressive, that can not be stopped at this point. What can be stopped however is Indian women becoming cunts.

Too late for Indian-American women!

(04-06-2015 08:34 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  If India becomes progressive in the "right" way, maybe it could become a great place for young men to have a good time, and have fun with beautiful girls in the cities. If it becomes progressive in the wrong way, you're just going to get fat and ugly Indian chicks in the clubs. There is a potential for millions of potential lays opening up. It's a mostly untapped market, and it is currently at a critical point in it's social progress.

I'm very pessimistic about Indian women, since there's no culture of exercising, a terrible diet and a growth in western fast food.

It's a shame, since a hot Indian woman is up there with a hot Persian or Latina looks wise.

The easiest way to bang city Indian women will probably be in vacation spots like Thailand.

Post: #35

(04-06-2015 06:23 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  The video is terrible and it just doesn’t come across as “Indian” to me. It bears the imprint of a foreign production.

The video has had around 7 million views, and the population of India is around 1.2 billion. I think there’s a bit of an exaggeration as to how big of an influence feminism has. This video is in English and the majority Indians do not understand English, or consume media in English. The vast majority also do not watch Hollywood movies.

Slim Shady seems to interact with the educated English speaking upper middle class/elite Indians. That’s a very small segment of Indian population. Most is rural and very conservative. A lot of the shit that said in the video won’t fly with the majority of Indian men.

My extended family is from the village in India and I know that the people over there basically have their daughters on lockdown. Apart from going to the shops and college, they’re not allowed to go anywhere on their own. They’re not allowed to date and they have arranged marriages. They’re not allowed to wear western clothes. They’re raised to take care of men – father, brothers, male cousins, future husbands. They’re supposed to marry, have kids and not have a career. That’s how life is for the vast majority of Indian village women.

If any village woman tried what Deepika Padukone is promoting, she would feel the back of male hand or worse very fast – I don’t agree with violence towards women, but that’s how it is over there. You’re about as likely to see change in most North Indian villages as you are in Saudi Arabia.

What disgusts me how a lot of Bollywood is always copying the US. Those fuckers should have some self respect.

The ruling party in India is very conservative and doesn’t support gay rights so I can’t see any pro gay marriage laws being passed there. Homosexuality is illegal in India.

Why doesn’t Deepika concentrate on something important like child poverty/malnutrition instead of this SJW bullshit?

True, the video is directed mostly towards women living in the cities. Rural India is still quite conservative. I'm from one of the largest cities in India. But I've spent the last 5 years living in a village way up in North India. The amount of change I've seen there in just 5 years is incredible. The people are quite religious and therefore a lot more conservative in general. Most of the marriages are arranged. Girls go to school and some go to college only till they're married.

Being a tourist place the people there have been exposed to Western culture since many years now. Westernization has spread there quickly. People young and old are using smartphones, there's wireless internet so exposure to bullshit videos like the one we're talking about has increased. Bollywood movies and their celebrities are quite popular and these days the movies are filled with feminist crap. It's true though that this shit won't go down well with majority of the men there and in most part of India but that can change fast. I see more and more women wearing western clothing and I have seen a definite change in their attitudes. The younger women are starting to get more arrogant and it might only be a matter or time before they become feminist cunts.

Post: #36

(04-06-2015 07:19 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  I prefer to focus on the positive points she made:

1. Premarital sex is fine.
2. Getting an abortion is fine.

I think this is a message more Indian women, particularly the hot middle/upper class ones in major cities, need to hear.

I don't know man, how is premarital sex ok? If it is then we're kind of back to square one. We know that women having sex before marriage majorly affects their ability to be good wives once they do get married.

On the abortion issue, I'm still torn. On some fundamental level it doesn't seem right to me. But if people are already considering aborting a child maybe they should just do it because they didn't want the child anyway. A child not wanted by the parents is anyway going to be a broken child.

Post: #37

India is a traditional ally of Russia.

The axis of Russia, Iran, Syria and India needs to be broken.

Therefore weaponised Western pop-culture is pumped into the target country. This includes porn which has always been a state weapon.

Post: #38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k The only thing that comes to my mind when someone mentions India.