Post: #1

Post: #2

Because Muslims are the ones who pushed for these laws....

This is trolling and baiting.

Post: #3

I don't have much love for muslims, but have even less for faggots.

I hope that queer has a fatwa put out on him. If you provoke people and ask for trouble, eventually you're going to get fucked in the ass.

Post: #4

I'm starting to get tired of the term "Cultural Marxism" used all the time. It's just not correct. All these cultural issues revolve around a difference in how to interpretate liberalism.

Classical liberals argued for freedom as the highest virtue, as long as everyone is treated equally by the state, law and norms of society. It's a proto-libertarian point of view; most libertarians still have this position. Even some hard left liberals can echo these points. Counterpunch writers or Glenn Greenwald sometimes act according to classical liberal values, minus the free trade

Modern liberals argue equality to be an even higher virtue, thereby overruling freedoms that can be discriminatory, like freedom of association or freedom of expression. Modern liberals believe that classical liberals are dishonest if they argue for an as wide as possible interpretation of freedom, because of past injustices which happened during times in which classical liberalism was dominant.

The gay marriage debate hasn't got very much to do with obscure 60s "Frankfurt School" philosophy. Gay marriage is simply an argument on the table if you believe equality is the highest virtue of society. The forced acceptance is another logical outflow, because modern liberals don't think you should be free to deny gays service or insult them for being gay.

Post: #5

Call it trolling if you will, but if it spurs Muslims into joining Christians in opposing this shit publicly then I support it. It'd be nice to have a broad religious alliance against the SJW horde.

Christians get shit on in the media while orthodox Jews and Muslims get a pass on these issues even though they agree with Christians. They just sit on the sidelines for the most part and let the Christians take a drubbing. It's time they nut up and form a religious alliance like the conservative religious folk in Canada recently formed. Indians, Muslims, Christians and others got together to tell the SJWs to fuck off. That needs to happen here too.

In the immortal words of the immortal John McClane:

Post: #6

(04-03-2015 03:43 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Because Muslims are the ones who pushed for these laws....

This is trolling and baiting.

That's the problem. The hate is from the media and pc liberals, not from Muslim bakeries or Christian bakeries.

How ridiculous, to demand a local business to cater a wedding they don't want to.

How do libs not see this. Gay acceptance is here in many places. Why do they need *everyone* in the U.S. to participate in their lifestyle.

Why would a gay couple even want a caterer to do their wedding if the place (1) doesn't want to, and (2) doesn't want to bad enough that they'll tell you they don't want to.

Why would I buy a cake from someone who fundamentally doesn't agree with what the cake is celebrating...hashtag big ole lougie in my cake.

PS Rush was saying how those thousands or millions of hate tweets against that pizza place in IN all come from the same 8 people, paid for by George Sauros. Pretty interesting. He knew this bc he gets these hate tweets all the time, so at some point in the past he tracked down where they're coming from...8 ppl, bringing down small businesses near you.

Post: #7

(04-03-2015 03:43 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Because Muslims are the ones who pushed for these laws....

This is trolling and baiting.

It's absolutely trolling/baiting, but it's not really an attack on muslims, per se.

The point is that, if the same group of people who are eager to lynch Christians for homophobia doesn't extend their condemnation to muslims, they show themselves up as being inauthentic because their motives are clearly ulterior. If they hold the two religious groups to different standards, it shows this battle was never about homosexuality to begin with, but the acquisition of power.

So, this isn't an attack on muslims. It's an attack on progressives.

Post: #8

(04-03-2015 03:48 PM)Maciano Wrote:  I'm starting to get tired of the term "Cultural Marxism" used all the time. It's just not correct. All these cultural issues revolve around a difference in how to interpretate liberalism.

Classical liberals argued for freedom as the highest virtue, as long as everyone is treated equally by the state, law and norms of society. It's a proto-libertarian point of view; most libertarians still have this position. Even some hard left liberals can echo these points. Counterpunch writers or Glenn Greenwald sometimes act according to classical liberal values, minus the free trade

Modern liberals argue equality to be an even higher virtue, thereby overruling freedoms that can be discriminatory, like freedom of association or freedom of expression. Modern liberals believe that classical liberals are dishonest if they argue for an as wide as possible interpretation of freedom, because of past injustices which happened during times in which classical liberalism was dominant.

The gay marriage debate hasn't got very much to do with obscure 60s "Frankfurt School" philosophy. Gay marriage is simply an argument on the table if you believe equality is the highest virtue of society. The forced acceptance is another logical outflow, because modern liberals don't think you should be free to deny gays service or insult them for being gay.

"Modern" liberals were were always in an alliance of convenience with the hard left. Unfortunately the blue collar FDR Democrat is no more for a variety of reasons (economic, political, etc.) and this power vacuum gave the cult of perpetually victimized the reins. The American left is now home to snarky useful idiot urbanites who think they're smarter and better than everyone else for belonging to their respective group and the completely batshit social justice crusaders.

The political situation in America is completely fucked and all these issues are invented distractions (especially gay marriage) used by groups of wealthy assholes (some who are true believers and some who are just opportunists) to divide and conquer.

The same divide and conquer tactic should be used to break off religious Jews, Indians and Muslims from the American left (who considers them protected minority pets) to at least unite with Christians to fight these stupid degenerates on these issues.

Post: #9

You know it's funny I never pictured muslims having cakes at weddings.

Post: #10

The thing is 99% of gay people are going to go to a gay bakery for their gay ass cake. They're not going to go to a Muslim or a Christian or any other bakery that doesn't want to do gay cakes. This homo is trolling and unfortunately this is why laws are needed to protect the rights of those who do not want to be forced into doing something that is against their beliefs.

Post: #11

He isn't gay and he IS trolling. He loves to point out liberal hypocrisy and at some point I will have to check out his channel. He is quite conservative. I just don't have time today.

Post: #12

I find it sad that SJW's can't think of a better example of gays being discriminated against then not being able to have a cake at their "wedding".

I guess its because there are no other examples and they just need to blow up a stupid hypothetical like its the apocalypse.

Post: #13

(04-03-2015 04:26 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The thing is 99% of gay people are going to go to a gay bakery for their gay ass cake. They're not going to go to a Muslim or a Christian or any other bakery that doesn't want to do gay cakes. This homo is trolling and unfortunately this is why laws are needed to protect the rights of those who do not want to be forced into doing something that is against their beliefs.

The moment you start to argue that they bring up past injustices that aren't even applicable anymore and compare fags and trans-weirdos to black Americans who were disenfranchised, beaten, murdered, and lynched in the Jim Crow South for decades. They're dishonest assholes.

Post: #14

(04-03-2015 04:26 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The thing is 99% of gay people are going to go to a gay bakery for their gay ass cake. They're not going to go to a Muslim or a Christian or any other bakery that doesn't want to do gay cakes. This homo is trolling and unfortunately this is why laws are needed to protect the rights of those who do not want to be forced into doing something that is against their beliefs.

Someone should go to the gay bakery and demand they make an erotic cake with a big white cis-penis going into a big pink cis-pussy. Then when they go "Ew grossth!" sue them for discrimination.

Post: #15

(04-03-2015 03:48 PM)007 Wrote:  I don't have much love for muslims, but have even less for faggots.

I hope that queer has a fatwa put out on him. If you provoke people and ask for trouble, eventually you're going to get fucked in the ass.

Attractive ,well dressed men that have no desire to sleep with women? Fantastic! More women for me! On top of all that they fat shame women. Gay dudes I have no concern for what so ever. Trust me on this, hating them is a waste of time. They also brought thongs and Brazilian waxing to the women on a mainstream level. Fine by me.

Post: #16

when I was reading about the news and the christian bakery now getting over 800k in donations now (they might top 1 mio. $ https://www.gofundme.com/memoriespizza) I was thinking whether Muslim bakeries would get shit for refusing to cater a gay wedding.

And of course they wouldn't. Muslims can rape and do things which Christians cannot do and this is prevalent in all Western countries. The media is absolutely complicit in this.

Also in this case I absolutely support the Muslim bakeries - they can refuse business for whatever reason they want to. If I insult them, then they are free to throw me out and I like that legal possibility.

Post: #17

This would be illegal in the uk and I'd hope would be dealt with in the same way that a white person's bakery would be.

I don't really get why any cake business would care about making any cake whatsoever to be honest.

I find most of my customers distasteful to varying degrees...I still take their money and spend it on things I'm sure they'd disapprove of!

Post: #18

I refuse service to people at my place all the time for any type of reason so how do I parlay this into a huge go fund me?

Quote:I find most of my customers distasteful to varying degrees...I still take their money and spend it on things I'm sure they'd disapprove of!

I do to a point but if I think they're going to bring drama or want to wait around for 5 hours or ball break I tell them about themselves and how things actually work.

I would gladly go against the lg whatev community for lolz any day of the week but sadly they all fucking hate me and my demeanor.

I'm going to think about this for a while as a devout christian who cannot compromise morals.

Post: #19

He starts off by asking for pictures on a cake and most of them were telling him they don't do pictures on cakes and to take your picture wanting ass down to Kroger. I bet if started off asking for a cake with Rob & Tom on it they would have made it.

Post: #20

(04-03-2015 04:44 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 03:48 PM)007 Wrote:  I don't have much love for muslims, but have even less for faggots.

I hope that queer has a fatwa put out on him. If you provoke people and ask for trouble, eventually you're going to get fucked in the ass.

Attractive ,well dressed men that have no desire to sleep with women? Fantastic! More women for me! On top of all that they fat shame women. Gay dudes I have no concern for what so ever. Trust me on this, hating them is a waste of time. They also brought thongs and Brazilian waxing to the women on a mainstream level. Fine by me.

Nobody is hating on dudes for simply being gay. What is pissing people off is forcing private businesses to be actively involved in gay activities. It's one thing to refuse a gay person any service upon sight. It's another thing to make a business participate in activities that actively or tacitly support the homosexual way of life.

I'd say the same for interracial marriage. If an interracial couple walks into a bakery and wants to buy something, they should not be thrown out of the store for being an interracial couple. But if they don't want to make a custom cake with interracial wedding toppers and all, they shouldn't be forced to by the government. And that couple is free to go to any of thousands of others bakeries that would gladly take their money.

(04-03-2015 04:52 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  This would be illegal in the uk and I'd hope would be dealt with in the same way that a white person's bakery would be.
ll take their money and spend it on things I'm sure they'd disapprove of!

So you're telling me that Muslim bakeries in the UK do custom wedding cakes for gays? None of them refuse? I find that hard to believe as the Muslims in England are way more fundamentalist than the ones in the US.

Post: #21

I don't condone violence, but it's hard to defend a man who baits violence. That's like putting your hand in the lion's maw and crying when you lose your arm. I don't see the point in trolling Muslims, Christians or any religious system. That was fun when I was a 16 year old atheist, but it just makes the baiter seem like an asshole.

Post: #22

(04-03-2015 03:59 PM)heavy Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 03:43 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Because Muslims are the ones who pushed for these laws....

This is trolling and baiting.

That's the problem. The hate is from the media and pc liberals, not from Muslim bakeries or Christian bakeries.

How ridiculous, to demand a local business to cater a wedding they don't want to.

How do libs not see this. Gay acceptance is here in many places. Why do they need *everyone* in the U.S. to participate in their lifestyle.

Why would a gay couple even want a caterer to do their wedding if the place (1) doesn't want to, and (2) doesn't want to bad enough that they'll tell you they don't want to.

Why would I buy a cake from someone who fundamentally doesn't agree with what the cake is celebrating...hashtag big ole lougie in my cake.

PS Rush was saying how those thousands or millions of hate tweets against that pizza place in IN all come from the same 8 people, paid for by George Sauros. Pretty interesting. He knew this bc he gets these hate tweets all the time, so at some point in the past he tracked down where they're coming from...8 ppl, bringing down small businesses near you.

Pretty much in agreement with you until the bolded part. I mean, come on. It's no different than every left winger blaming the Koch brothers for everything.

Post: #23

(04-03-2015 05:30 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  So you're telling me that Muslim bakeries in the UK do custom wedding cakes for gays? None of them refuse? I find that hard to believe as the Muslims in England are way more fundamentalist than the ones in the US.

I honestly don't know; it's not something I've either tried nor heard about.

All I was saying was that it would be illegal to refuse service on those grounds here; there was a massive case here a few years back about a B&B owner who refused to let a gay couple rent a room. They were prosecuted.