Post: #1

Saw this on my Facebook wall and it struck a chord:



Have you ever seen the statue of Kali?

She is the mother and death also, kal, means death so her name is Kali.
And she is the mother, so she is a woman.

She is beautiful, beautiful like a mother. Nobody else can be as beautiful as the mother.

Even if one's own mother is ugly, she seems beautiful. Nobody thinks in terms of the beauty of the mother, but the mother is beautiful.

Because if you see your mother as ugly, then that means that you are ugly because you are her expansion.

So Kali is beautiful, very beautiful But around her neck she is wearing a garland of human heads.

She is beautiful, but she is Kali- kal, death.

Western thinkers are puzzled over this symbol.

They wonder why a woman should be depicted so horribly, so terrifying.

And you call her mother also!

How frightening it is horrible, be-cause death starts from the one who gives birth.

It is terrible, because death has arrived along with the birth.

The mother has given death as well as life.

So on one side she is as beautiful as the mother, as the source, and on the other end she is like kal, death, as dark as death.

Around her neck is a garland of human heads in her hand she is holding a severed head, blood dripping, and she is standing, with her feet on her husband.

This is a very deep symbol: woman as life, and as death too.

Because death comes from where life comes, these two are the two sides of the same coin.

And nobody else on this earth realized this fact as the Hindus have done.

OshO ..
The song of ecstasy

Post: #2

Post: #3

On a more serious note, I do think there is a lot of wisdom in ancient cultures and mythology that agrees with so-called "red pill" thinking. We've become detached from it in our modern age, but these stories reveal something about human nature.

The Old Testament has obviously been mentioned a lot here, but it's also in Greek mythology (Pandora and Prometheus).

Post: #4

WB. Goddess flag FTW.

(04-03-2015 10:52 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

Post: #5

The timing of this post!!!

[Rant]

I met an old friend of mine for breakfast today. The only thing we have in common is a fascination of the esoteric; he's a neurobiologist and Im a business major. We were talking about Hinduism and how Shiva, or Kaal was the embodiment of the creative and destructive aspects of masculinity - destroyer of worlds, A+ lover, ancient tap-dancer, commander of an undead army etc



So basically, Kali is Shiva's bae (Kaal/Kali are the masculine/feminine derivatives of the original sanskrit Kaal, which mean can mean black/time/death -- which is also why both of them have blue-black skin)

Because both are usually associated with death,destruction and horror, they serve as excellent characters to elaborate on dichotomous concepts (like the giver of life/destroyer of life concept in the OP). Kali was marginal however, Shiva was much more mainstream - I'd imagine Osho deliberately used Kali to tie in with certain other "teachings" (but perhaps Im wrong because of large negative biases about that man).

The picture ties in with a part of the OP - Around her neck is a garland of human heads in her hand she is holding a severed head, blood dripping, and she is standing, with her feet on her husband.

To elaborate a bit further, and Wikipedia is pretty accurate in this case -

Once Kali had destroyed all the demons in battle, she began a terrific dance out of the sheer joy of victory. All the worlds or lokas began to tremble and sway under the impact of her dance. So, at the request of all the Gods, Shiva himself asked her to desist from this behavior. However, she was too intoxicated to listen. Hence, Shiva lay like a corpse among the slain demons in order to absorb the shock of the dance into himself. When Kali eventually stepped upon Shiva, she realized she was trampling and hurting her husband and bit her tongue in shame.

(04-03-2015 12:18 PM)monster Wrote:  WB. Goddess flag FTW.

One final comment about the picture, everything else is great but her face is just way,way off. She's too pretty and her expressions are..off. Also the skulls are too small to be real ones...they almost seem like something a girl I know would wear ("accessorizing"). It detracts from the purported horror of her real image.
This attempt at romanticizing Kali by making her overtly pretty really deviates from the terrifying, unstoppable whirlwind of death she was in, and I'd even suggest, minor pedestalization. Like giving Voldemort some six pack or Sauron a sense of humor... it isnt subtle enough.

Excellent pic nevertheless

[/Rant]

Post: #6

Agreed. WB. No crazier than any other bitch I ever dated.

(04-03-2015 12:18 PM)monster Wrote:  WB. Goddess flag FTW.

(04-03-2015 10:52 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

Post: #7

The funny thing about us men is that we would probably bang this one even if she would manifest in this very exact body complete with a severed head.

Post: #8

(04-03-2015 12:18 PM)monster Wrote:  WB. Goddess flag FTW.

(04-03-2015 10:52 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

Nice tits.

Post: #9

Well the artwork IS very eroticized. Dem titties are pretty much perfect.

Post: #10

small boobs no silicon it belongs in computers WB and curse her during

Post: #11

(04-03-2015 05:55 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The funny thing about us men is that we would probably bang this one even if she would manifest in this very exact body complete with a severed head.

I would. With a gun.

Post: #12

Apparently sticking the tongue out is a thing with the representation of Kali:



I guess that's where Miley Cyrus gets it from.

Post: #13

Yeah, in the game Spelunky you can give her blood sacrifices to improve your chances of beating the game. Sometimes, though, it can go poorly:





In a game filled with horrible ways to die, that is easily the worst.

Post: #14

In ancient Hindu mythology, the goddess Kali embodies the fierce aspect of Parvati, heavenly consort of the benevolent god Shiva. Like her husband, Kali symbolizes the Shakti or divine creative force and also the cycle of rebirth and reformation. In order to understand the benevolent aspect of this god-goddess consortium of destructor deities in Hindu thought, first one must take into account the cyclic concept of time in the Hindu tradition. For Hindus, the natural cycle of life is one of birth, death, rebirth and transformation.

Therefore, Kali is associated with the empowering Kundalini life-force, the Sacred Serpent within us, the divine yoguic energy which destroys the negative aspects of the old self and transmutes us into our godlike higher self. That is the reason why Kali can be seen as a goddess of destruction and yet a perfectly benevolent female deity in Hinduism, a fact that strikes most Westerners as something bizarre and inconceivable.

The goddess Kali ought not to be confused with the male demon Kali, overlord of Kali Yuga (present era of darkness) who possesses a similar name. The former is a wholly benevolent Deva and the latter is a completely malevolent impostor who reigns over an age of confusion, degeneracy, deviation from the natural order and total wickedness. It is said in Hindu scripture that the reign of the demon Kali will come to an end when Kalki avatara, the destroyer of impurity, manifests in the physical world, brings an end to the evils of the current Kali Yuga and ushers in the next Satya Yuga or age of truth.

I personally believe that this apocalyptical outlook of Hinduism embodies a considerable amount of Red Pill truth. First, it recognizes that we are living in a time of illusion and falsehood wherein filosophies of deception reign supreme and the world is in an unnatural state of corruption. Second, it expresses explicitly that this order of chaos must come to an end through a brutal and violent struggle and one day will be superseded by a new natural order of truth and enlightenment. The Sanskrit term 'Satya' means "truth" or "true reality".

Post: #15

(07-02-2015 05:21 AM)Lumbre Wrote:  In ancient Hindu mythology, the goddess Kali embodies the fierce aspect of Parvati, heavenly consort of the benevolent god Shiva. Like her husband, Kali symbolizes the Shakti or divine creative force and also the cycle of rebirth and reformation. In order to understand the benevolent aspect of this god-goddess consortium of destructor deities in Hindu thought, first one must take into account the cyclic concept of time in the Hindu tradition. For Hindus, the natural cycle of life is one of birth, death, rebirth and transformation.

Therefore, Kali is associated with the empowering Kundalini life-force, the Sacred Serpent within us, the divine yoguic energy which destroys the negative aspects of the old self and transmutes us into our godlike higher self. That is the reason why Kali can be seen as a goddess of destruction and yet a perfectly benevolent female deity in Hinduism, a fact that strikes most Westerners as something bizarre and inconceivable.

The goddess Kali ought not to be confused with the male demon Kali, overlord of Kali Yuga (present era of darkness) who possesses a similar name. The former is a wholly benevolent Deva and the latter is a completely malevolent impostor who reigns over an age of confusion, degeneracy, deviation from the natural order and total wickedness. It is said in Hindu scripture that the reign of the demon Kali will come to an end when Kalki avatara, the destroyer of impurity, manifests in the physical world, brings an end to the evils of the current Kali Yuga and ushers in the next Satya Yuga or age of truth.

I personally believe that this apocalyptical outlook of Hinduism embodies a considerable amount of Red Pill truth. First, it recognizes that we are living in a time of illusion and falsehood wherein filosophies of deception reign supreme and the world is in an unnatural state of corruption. Second, it expresses explicitly that this order of chaos must come to an end through a brutal and violent struggle and one day will be superseded by a new natural order of truth and enlightenment. The Sanskrit term 'Satya' means "truth" or "true reality".

Is that an eye on her forehead? Or a ..... ?

Post: #16

(07-02-2015 07:28 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 05:21 AM)Lumbre Wrote:  In ancient Hindu mythology, the goddess Kali embodies the fierce aspect of Parvati, heavenly consort of the benevolent god Shiva. Like her husband, Kali symbolizes the Shakti or divine creative force and also the cycle of rebirth and reformation. In order to understand the benevolent aspect of this god-goddess consortium of destructor deities in Hindu thought, first one must take into account the cyclic concept of time in the Hindu tradition. For Hindus, the natural cycle of life is one of birth, death, rebirth and transformation.

Therefore, Kali is associated with the empowering Kundalini life-force, the Sacred Serpent within us, the divine yoguic energy which destroys the negative aspects of the old self and transmutes us into our godlike higher self. That is the reason why Kali can be seen as a goddess of destruction and yet a perfectly benevolent female deity in Hinduism, a fact that strikes most Westerners as something bizarre and inconceivable.

The goddess Kali ought not to be confused with the male demon Kali, overlord of Kali Yuga (present era of darkness) who possesses a similar name. The former is a wholly benevolent Deva and the latter is a completely malevolent impostor who reigns over an age of confusion, degeneracy, deviation from the natural order and total wickedness. It is said in Hindu scripture that the reign of the demon Kali will come to an end when Kalki avatara, the destroyer of impurity, manifests in the physical world, brings an end to the evils of the current Kali Yuga and ushers in the next Satya Yuga or age of truth.

I personally believe that this apocalyptical outlook of Hinduism embodies a considerable amount of Red Pill truth. First, it recognizes that we are living in a time of illusion and falsehood wherein filosophies of deception reign supreme and the world is in an unnatural state of corruption. Second, it expresses explicitly that this order of chaos must come to an end through a brutal and violent struggle and one day will be superseded by a new natural order of truth and enlightenment. The Sanskrit term 'Satya' means "truth" or "true reality".

Is that an eye on her forehead? Or a ..... ?

The eye on the forehead represents the third eye, the mind's spiritual extension of the pineal gland, and therefore divine enlightenment. In Hindu esotericism, the third eye can be opened by the awakening of the Kundalini Serpent and through occult meditative techniques. It is associated with the development of yoguic Siddhis or psychic abilities and also with the attainment of a godlike consciousness. That is why on statues of Shiva you can often see the same third eye as well as a serpent protruding from the forehead.