Post: #26

(03-29-2015 12:47 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Ok, but why do you think she wouldn't be down for you to bang her just because you're not Jewish?

You're right. It's a part hypothetical question.

Post: #27

With the divorce rates so high, converting could only be a temporary thing. But, it's silly to convert to X religion and then to Y to Z etc. But I agree with many on here, the woman should be the one who converts.

Post: #28

(03-29-2015 12:15 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  I've decided to stop celebrating Easter and Christmas a few years back. It just doesn't feel right going through the motions for the sake of family expectations.

Parlay, listen to me please brother.

Don't be the guy who stops going to religious family gatherings because it "just doesn't feel right". You don't choose your family, and if they've at all loved you and raised you right, you've got to stick with them and tolerate a bit of harmless, at worst a little dull, at best more than a little touching, ceremony for their sake.

That said, you don't have to take shit from some silly "religious" slut, just tell her that "the Devil is the most interesting part of any religion, did you know that" and make her wet for your dark triad cock, LOL. But your family is a different matter. Tolerating a little tedium and a little inconvenience to make your folks happy -- or less sad -- of an Easter or a Christmas is something that a man should do as a matter of course, and not even think twice about. It's truly the least we can do.

Post: #29

Yeah, I tell women the Devil's my best friend, but go along to Buddhist temples, Catholic churches, Chinese Confucian temples, mosques and Filipino evangelical churches, too.

It seems that Buddhist women want to make merit with you in a temple before they bang you, it's happened to me several times that way in Sri Lanka and Thailand.

Post: #30

(03-29-2015 11:11 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  For all the atheists and free thinkers out there. If you met a prime piece of ass who happens to be devoutly religious would you consider joining her cult for a chance at "the dream" of marriage?

Would you do it fully or just go through the motions and pretend?

Expand the question a bit.

We got a bunch of cats jumping on the red pill/conservative/republican band wagon.
These "new reds" tend to be intellectual, and often not very religious.

The common thought process among them is that in order to find a wife (groan), they're going to have to go to a small town in a Red State.

And since they want young and nubile, there's a huge honey pot of chicks that are in the Church.

Will they join a church and gain status in that church just to bang these "vestal virgins"?

Are they willing to put their dicks where her mouth is?

I have a sneaking suspicion that most of them would not. There's something entirely unappealing about good (white) christian women - even if it means getting away from the evils of feminism.

WIA

Post: #31

Since my spiritual path is within me it cannot be taken away from me no matter what I join and do outwardly.

I would never join a religion for a bang.

However I might convert before marriage - also really right before - like 30 minute before the wedding. Also the reasons for me doing that must be tremendous:

+ She has in excess of 5 bio. $ net assets
+ She is 18-25
+ She is full blown wife material
+ Her family is super-powerful - Eyes Wide Shut powerful
+ She is fertile (wanna find out beforehand)
+ She wants to have kids ASAP
+ She is super-hot boner inducing to me
+ She is more Red Pill or can be taught - accepts my frame

Also there are some religions I would not join - most sects of Islam I would not join. If she is very liberal Sufi I might. Hardcore Satanist or generational Luciferian I would not consider either.

Anything else may be an option, since personally I would still keep doing my spiritual path no matter what religion outwardly I have to join.

Post: #32

(03-29-2015 12:42 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  So they hired this new girl out of college. It's her first job. And their grooming her to be project manager over everyone. She's a hot little 23 year piece of Jewish ass. Not to mention she's all about me. Very touchy feely. No doubt she wants the D. I run standard bratty little sister game on her. She eats it up. I need to get her alone outside of work however.

By the way is there a term for a male shiksa? Haha

The term is "goy." And based on experience, Jewish girls are fucking crazy. Before I became a Catholic, I was Jewish.

Post: #33

(03-29-2015 02:03 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(03-29-2015 12:42 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  So they hired this new girl out of college. It's her first job. And their grooming her to be project manager over everyone. She's a hot little 23 year piece of Jewish ass. Not to mention she's all about me. Very touchy feely. No doubt she wants the D. I run standard bratty little sister game on her. She eats it up. I need to get her alone outside of work however.

By the way is there a term for a male shiksa? Haha

The term is "goy." And based on experience, Jewish girls are fucking crazy. Before I became a Catholic, I was Jewish.

I've googled it since then. It's Shegetz. How fitting

From Wikipedia:

Quote:Shegetz (שייגעץ or in Hebrew שֵׁיְגֶּץ; alternative Romanizations incl. shaygetz, sheigetz, shaigetz, sheygets; plural שגאצים shkotzim, shgatzim) is a Yiddish word that has entered English to refer to a non-Jewish boy or young man. Although shegetz, like its feminine counterpart shiksa, comes from the Hebrew sheketz ("detestable," "abomination", "loathed", "blemish") and literally translates as "rascal", "scoundrel" or "varmint", its pejorative connotations range from negligible to severe, depending on the context.

Post: #34

I humored this idea, once, while going for what I thought was an 8 and virgin. I've told the rest of the details here and there, but I'll just stick on point. For the reference, my family never went to church and I identified as an atheist somewhere when I first heard the word, around 12 years old.

I've attempted, on numerous occasions out of curiosity, to read the bible. I can handle reading some of the old testament, because it's very similar to paganism and it's much more acceptable as allegories or just myths handed down, and treated as such. I have a hard time believing the contemporaries of the old testament truly believed, down in their heart, in all of that. The new testament, however, would require me to be drugged, brain damaged, or just plain wanting to suffer in order to get through. I've attempted it, and every time I just couldn't get over how dull and tedious it all is. And, it comes with the added weight of many people taking it as literal truth.

That said, religion mostly just bores me. When people like Aurini get on and start explaining things, I can enjoy the talking about religion, but only from the perspective of passed on wisdom and a community keeping itself in check with solid traditions. That's the appeal of Christian girls, the solid family background, which I thought I was going to get out of a "virgin". Nope, after playing the beta while knowing better, she slowly started to break down my frame and I failed shit tests. Her family was actually quite fractured due to her, and then I switched to try to get her to just break free of the nonsense with me. That didn't work and she ended up getting married soon after.

I've gotten along very well with some Christian girls, but never broached the subject of them seriously dating outside of their faith, because the good ones have flaccid Jesus flavored cocks coming at them from all directions, I know some of their families, and I enjoy hanging out with them just from that angle. I would seriously need to want marriage with that girl, and I would have to be absolutely clear that my beliefs will not change. Some actually might be open to that, but I don't care enough to try at the moment. The most devout start to lose composure around 25, and losing it to guys like me just to feel alive, because they've denied that part of their physicality for so long. It's sad, really.

Fundamentally, I cannot believe what they do. It's just not possible for me. It doesn't particularly bother what they believe, either, unless it starts to affect their choices in a bad way (like destroying their youth in order to reach peace with god by helping all of the afflicted in the world). I think we can reach an understanding, like I have with my girlfriends in the past after a good hard fuck session and pillow-side talk. If I can state my atheism and other radical beliefs while maintaining hand as well as their moistness for me, I don't care what they dream about until it starts fucking me up. And, in my experience, that can happen for any reason whatsoever, from religion to school to parents to something much more mundane and to me inconsequential.

Post: #35

I am an atheist but I have gone to religious services with girls who are believers. It's interesting and can be nice. I never lie and say that I believe it but I will share the experience with someone.

Post: #36

In all honesty, I would not. However, in my college days I did tag along to a few religious meet-up groups, and a lot of the women that attended the meetings were better looking that the rest of the general population. Religious sermons do nothing for me, except put me to sleep.

Post: #37

This is how I was raised and what I believe in (My family is Indian):

There’s a lot of religions in India such as Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, Jew, Zoroastrian, Jain etc. To avoid confusion when two people get married, the kids follow the father’s religion. It's not even up for discussion. The wife doesn’t have to convert, but any man who does is considered a pussy with no self respect. It’s as bad as a man taking his wife’s name.

I have male relatives who are married to women of many religions, none of them converted.

Post: #38

(03-29-2015 12:55 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  silly "religious" slut

These girls are the best.

Post: #39

(03-29-2015 11:11 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  For all the atheists and free thinkers out there. If you met a prime piece of ass who happens to be devoutly religious would you consider joining her cult for a chance at "the dream" of marriage?

Would you do it fully or just go through the motions and pretend?

Neither.

There is not a cunt in the world worth that price.

Post: #40

Well, I wouldn't seriously join one, but I'd fake it for the bang. I went out one a first date with this chick a while ago, and she asked if I'd like to drop by her friends' apartment building for a quick celebration. "What can go wrong?" I thought and went along happily. Turned out that it was some weird religious party by this odd Christian denomination (forgot the name, but there were plenty of Asians and lots of singing) and plenty of young people got converted. I fake-joined (gave them fake name, email and address) for a delicious dinner and ended up banging the girl after taking her back to her apartment. She said something about regretting not starting to have fun earlier in life (she was only 22) so I suspected I'd have got the bang minus the silly religious BS anyway, but the foods were really good!

I was asked flat out to convert or no more dating by a Christian babe, and since she was dead serious plus she was in my social circle (no fake name possible!), I said no.

My uncle converted for a nubile 18 year old Polish wife and business connections in Eastern Europe. He's not at all serious about religion, it's purely for sex, marriage and business opportunities. I'd do the same.

Post: #41

(03-31-2015 08:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  My uncle converted for a nubile 18 year old Polish wife and business connections in Eastern Europe. He's not at all serious about religion, it's purely for sex, marriage and business opportunities. I'd do the same.

To be a Catholic in Poland is no biggie - it's in name only most of the time. There is hardly any ardent intense religiosity that permeates every action and word there.

I found plenty of religious Christians in the US be way more strange and socially awkward from father-daughter balls, virginity until marriage (incl. vaginal loophole), talk of God every few sentences, believing in rapture etc. I think that the elite financed Council of Churches did really a great con-job on them.

Post: #42

Guys, I guess I'll ask a question here since it's related to my situation, I can't give a lot of specifics, but there's this arab Gulf chick that says she'd like to marry me if I converted, she is VERY hot and her family is rich, I mean big time rich. She's past "marriage age" but she still looks like 22-23 and we always connected well, also, she says she wouldn't mind if I played around, says marriage for her is other things and not exactly that... Islam is a very serious deal, I'd "convert" but I wouldn't really want to commit myself fully into dropping alcohol and pork... what say ye?

Post: #43

@Lemon, you don't want to be a kept man.
When Daddy is paying for your life he owns you.

It's why women want to work. She's at the mercy of her husband if she doesn't do what he says.

WIA

Post: #44

(03-31-2015 09:26 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Guys, I guess I'll ask a question here since it's related to my situation, I can't give a lot of specifics, but there's this arab Gulf chick that says she'd like to marry me if I converted, she is VERY hot and her family is rich, I mean big time rich. She's past "marriage age" but she still looks like 22-23 and we always connected well, also, she says she wouldn't mind if I played around, says marriage for her is other things and not exactly that... Islam is a very serious deal, I'd "convert" but I wouldn't really want to commit myself fully into dropping alcohol and pork... what say ye?

Conversion to Islam is a process that is done via lip-service. You can convert this very second.

If you think that you can make about as much money in your lifetime as she has access to then don't do it. Apart from that it really depends - behind their compounds many Arabs drink, snort cocaine and eat pork. Besides - if getting rid of pork and alcohol is your biggest worry, then this is not much of a deal. Just replace it with kobe steak and prime level cocaine.

The worst thing there is your subsequent lifestyle that you will have and your children will be enjoying. Also when the marriage is in one of those Muslim countries you will have to find out what legal rights you will be really having there when marrying her. Will you have access to her money? Will you be able to make decisions on behalf of your children? Is she and her family more liberal, fake believer, real believer, extremist believer? Will you and your kids live like the Rich Kids of Tehran (both boys and girls) or be pampered until insanity (as a boy) and tucked away behind a burka (as a girl)?

What happens if you decide to divorce? She gets the children and if you make a fuss you get buried in the desert?

As with everything else in life you have to take multiple issues into consideration. If she wants to live in a Western country, have the children be raised in modern elite schools and not by some religious Imams, then it's more liberal and can be acceptable. But of course keep in mind that she can always change her mind and if you have no legal recourse then you are left with nothing. Cheating on a wife is hardly a reason for divorce there, so that's true, but there are more things in life than that.

@WIA - it depends. If you get access to the family business and can leave your mark there, open with strong Alpha frame and are willing to walk away any day, then it does not matter. Many men in history have married into powerful wealthy families with only their clothes, a sharp mind and ambition to their name. But it is more difficult to keep a strong frame that way - the less hand you have in that regard, the stronger your frame has to be.

Post: #45

Her family is chill, except the older brother.. father is dead. She's from one of the most liberal gulf countries, actually, probably the most liberal Gulf City, if you catch my drift

I've known her for a few years, sure, she can change overnight, but I wouldn't think it would be like that, and I don't think kids would be spoiled, even with a rich family she wasn't spoiled. In terms of money, well yeah we're talking about big dope here, not royalty-like , but more than enough to live very comfortably. As for religious schools and Imams, her family does not frequent those places because of distrust of certain people there (she subtly referred things like child abuse). Her family is quite "westernized" in many ways. The only overly muslim thing they do are the prayers and things like that. I do like her too, it could be a good opportunity to get rich, have a family and still not having to give up variety all together... But yeah, it's a lot to process!

Edit: I should note that I'm not intending to stop working, family has connections with the corporate world there and I'm taking a management related masters.

But yes indeed you are right and there are many issues to consider

(03-31-2015 10:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 09:26 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Guys, I guess I'll ask a question here since it's related to my situation, I can't give a lot of specifics, but there's this arab Gulf chick that says she'd like to marry me if I converted, she is VERY hot and her family is rich, I mean big time rich. She's past "marriage age" but she still looks like 22-23 and we always connected well, also, she says she wouldn't mind if I played around, says marriage for her is other things and not exactly that... Islam is a very serious deal, I'd "convert" but I wouldn't really want to commit myself fully into dropping alcohol and pork... what say ye?

Conversion to Islam is a process that is done via lip-service. You can convert this very second.

If you think that you can make about as much money in your lifetime as she has access to then don't do it. Apart from that it really depends - behind their compounds many Arabs drink, snort cocaine and eat pork. Besides - if getting rid of pork and alcohol is your biggest worry, then this is not much of a deal. Just replace it with kobe steak and prime level cocaine.

The worst thing there is your subsequent lifestyle that you will have and your children will be enjoying. Also when the marriage is in one of those Muslim countries you will have to find out what legal rights you will be really having there when marrying her. Will you have access to her money? Will you be able to make decisions on behalf of your children? Is she and her family more liberal, fake believer, real believer, extremist believer? Will you and your kids live like the Rich Kids of Tehran (both boys and girls) or be pampered until insanity (as a boy) and tucked away behind a burka (as a girl)?

What happens if you decide to divorce? She gets the children and if you make a fuss you get buried in the desert?

As with everything else in life you have to take multiple issues into consideration. If she wants to live in a Western country, have the children be raised in modern elite schools and not by some religious Imams, then it's more liberal and can be acceptable. But of course keep in mind that she can always change her mind and if you have no legal recourse then you are left with nothing. Cheating on a wife is hardly a reason for divorce there, so that's true, but there are more things in life than that.

Post: #46

I've always thought about starting a cult just for the easy poosy

Post: #47

Never, ever convert to any religion or denomination for a woman. It should be the other way around. It ties up your spirituality into something that quit frankly should be bending to your beliefs. Women are nebulous creatures. You'll be building a spiritual house on sand.

If she is a believer, I would partake on a spiritual journey yourself and see what you truly believe. If Christian, not all churches and denominations are the same. Good sermons are very hard to find. For Atheists and "free-thinkers", I would first try to find a pastor that speaks with fire. Any denomination will due, but make sure it adheres to Christian values laid forth in the New Testament and not the Old one. The only "sin" is not loving your neighbor as you love yourself. Surprisingly, this is a lot harder to do that what is let on.

The bible both old and new testament, is loaded with allegory and symbolism. Any church that preaches that a text which has been translated and copied hundreds of times is the literal word of God have been deceived and are leading others down a dark path. A good pastor can connect the lessons and symbolism to real life context and why it is bad.

My experience is in Christianity. If you're curious about what it is really all about, start with the new testament first. It's a lot easier to read and stomach. Then, go back and read the old testament. It will make a lot more sense. The bible tells the story of a prophecy which started with Abraham in the old testament and is answered in the new one.

Post: #48

Like mentioned above, you shouldn't covert solely for a woman's sake, BUT attending the events can be fun and a nice stream of poosy. In college I used to attend this christian meetup group once or twice a month. I'm an atheist and everyone knew it. The girls (and beta guys) would debate with me for hours. I promise you guys almost every month I had a new girl from that group taking me out to eat, coming back to my lair to get slayed and telling me in secrecy how they loved my personality.

-CD

Post: #49

Religious girls virtually don't exist in western hemisphere. I mean only in some deeply rigorous evangelical communities or similar religious communities you still find girls who do not fornicate, commit adultery, drink etc...

Which brings me to the question, how religious are you ? We are all heavy sinners here. I mean all people sin, but we are those who commit major sins, such as fornication, drinking, lust, covetousness, etc...

Why convert to her religion when you suck at yours in the first place.

Post: #50

Negatory.

I might agree amplify to get the bang on the date, or do a polar opposite and gauge her reaction. Perhaps mirror her but more generalized.

This is only for date bangs NOT LTR.

I remember I was 17 and was already over religion. I started dating this girl, she took me to an easter play at a church and a service.

I never felt so uncomfortable in my life, I realized I was selling out and soon after we broke up.

That translation Spike said:

Quote:Two religions on one pillow, the devil sleeps in between.

Is absolutely true, it's another obstacle you need to overcome for pussy.


Parlay....I really wouldn't shit where I eat, especially if it's for a good company, that's just my opinion.


Oh and about Mormon girls:

There are 2 types

The wild crazy sluts who are like that forever until settling down.

The super religious goody good girls who won't ever do shit.

I still haven't found girls in the middle of those 2 and I live where there is a concentration of Mormon churches.