Post: #26

(03-25-2015 09:05 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:37 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Provide proof.

What do you mean about Bosnia?

(03-25-2015 05:58 AM)dads Wrote:  I'm very curious on this. Any sources out there I could read up on?

Damn. I thought my post was an obvious parody of the kinds of lunatic ideas that people have about the life of the so-called "elites", but maybe the ideas are so widespread that someone can take it seriously? Rustler do you really think I believe that "elites" (LOL) must own (because of some diabolic pact) **at least two** "underage sex slaves"? Or that there are Taken style "sex slave auctions" going on all over the world right under our noses? Or that more than a vanishingly small number of people, "elites" or otherwise, have the least interest in, let alone access to, actual child porn, or the mythical Hollywood idea of "snuff"? It is true, by the by, that there is some very nasty footage from the Bosnian war of the 1990s that has circulated -- probably some of the nastiest out there. But let me assure you that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are not frantically masturbating to that footage in the privacy of their homes, LOL!!!

Now that I've made my parody post, I think I owe a more serious take on these matters, so here goes.

By far the most striking fact about the lives of the so called "elites" -- and by that I primarily mean men who are extremely wealthy, or extremely powerful, or both -- is how bland, boring, and unimaginative those lives are. Many if not most of these men have ugly age-appropriate wives, and are entirely content with fucking these hags with maybe a very occasional, and more psychologically than physically motivated, age-appropriate social circle affair/mistress thrown in here and there. Even the type that take the obligatory "trophy wife" and have a little pussy on the side take advantage of an infinitesimally small fraction of the opportunities that are really offered to them in the realm of pleasure. There is a small subset of rakes and playboys, it's true -- VERY small, and growing smaller by the hour, it seems -- but those guys are usually stupid enough to do too much booze and too many drugs, so they burn out too quickly and by the time they're a little older and should be coming into a man's true and extended sexual prime, their senses are dulled and their brains diminished.

Instead, the main thing all these guys do is work -- work like maniacs, even when they no longer have to; when they are younger -- and sometimes all the way to the end -- they work on building and expanding their business and making their money; as they get a little older they increasingly work on "targeted charities" and giving their money away; occasionally they turn to politics and trying to "improve society" as they see fit and depending on their ideological inclinations (and business interests). The great majority of these men are prudes and moralists, and as blue-pill as they come. They are as dull and unimaginative as the average dude out there, if not more so because they probably work even harder.

That is the real crime being committed by today's elites -- I feel that it is nothing short of criminal just how uninspired their lives are; just how enslaved they are to the same dull and puritanical cliches as virtually all other men. A very wealthy man today, someone worth billions or hundreds of millions, could lead a life of sexual pleasure, avidity and intensity that would be unimaginable to an ancient emperor, because the variety and quality of the pussy that is available in all parts of the world -- not non-existent "slaves" lol but free range pussy that is there for the taking -- is unprecedented in world history.

The sort of thing these men should be thinking about, day and night, is that Japanese teens are getting access to American level dentistry, which means that their one defect is being corrected; that there are females in Japan who are 39 and have the tits and asses and skin of an 18 year old, and give better fellatio than anyone in the history of the universe; that there are white/Latin, black/white, white/Asian and other blends coming online as we speak that are so sick that if they take their clothes off a man could faint. But are they thinking about it, is anyone? No, of course not. The only thing dumber than the idea of the "elites'" depravity and licentiousness is the idea -- shared by these "elites" themselves as well as apparently by every prudish moralizer out there -- that indulging in this unprecedented bonanza is somehow "empty" or "meaningless", and in any case something that no man should devote any attention to once he is past the ancient age of 30. THAT, to me, is the crime, a crime of blindness and idiocy unlike any other.

So, while I hate to rain on everyone's porta-potty parade, that is the reality. There are no "sex slaves" despite the propaganda of the unholy alliance of radical feminists and tradcons to the contrary; there is very little taste for any of the sexual antics that the credulous believe are going on behind close doors; there is nothing but the dull and grim idea the the most avenging and ecstatic joys possible to this body we are saddled with are necessarily "empty" or "meaningless"; there is so little real unstoppable male lust, avidity, and sexual insight and discrimination, that it makes me sick. Even the very, very few men who attempt the kind of life I mentioned do so driven by some psychological forces; they too believe it's "empty" or "meaningless" but they want to punish themselves, or punish women, or get back at their mommy, or whatever other species of psychological inanity they are subject to. The pure, happy, healthy lecher who loves pussy and sexual delight for its own sake, the relentless connoisseur who has the means and the wherewithal to fulfill his vision -- but who also has the prudence and sophistication to have a myriad other interests and to never burn himself out -- where is that mythical creature? It appears to be an even rarer species than a female Fields medalist, and until last year we had exactly zero of those.

So few men -- including the so much fantasized about "elites" -- truly love life and all it has to offer. There are reasons for this, but regardless of the reasons, it's a terrible and depressing reality -- far more depressing than the deluded fantasies of what the "elites" supposedly get up to when no one is looking.

The reason why and it's something I can tell you after being with a hot chick is this, an orgasm never changes. After a certain amount of bangs, sleeping with more women gets pointless. An orgasm is the same if it's with a hot chick, a young chick, a milf, an asian, etc.

That sexual act's feeling is the same ... every... single... time. You do something enough times and guess what you become desensitized to it.

It came to me when I realized that I was wasting way too much time, money, and f*cks thinking about how to get laid. For me, the fulfillment value of an orgasm with a hot chick has not been nearly as fulfilling as weight lifting, studying theology, playing an instrument, and fixing a car. Rich guys who work all of the time probably will say something similar. Sometimes it is possible to be fulfilled sexually with a bland woman who is a good companion.

For you, the fulfillment is probably a lot higher. While game and understanding female psychology is important, there are people out there where an orgasm is just that, an orgasm. It doesn't lead to any feeling of accomplishment.

Post: #27

Beast1, why do you think the orgasm is the sole point of the entire sexual experience? It is not.

The delight consists in the whole experience -- from first seeing the girl and forming your initial ideas of how she should be used, what she is good for, what things you will do to her and make her do; to engaging her and over time making her sexually crazed and making her hungry and impatient to do the things that you want her to do; to actually seeing her on her knees for the first time, her pants pulled down and watching that ass in the mirror as her head bobbles and you shoot that fast and intense first load -- maybe a double if you are very horny and the girl is hot enough and can make you come hard with her mouth -- to first seeing her get on all fours and being almost out of breath and unable to believe how enraging her ass looks when popped out in doggie and dripping and wiggling, waiting for your cock; to fucking her in your preferred hole and sometimes kissing her as she turns her head back, sometimes letting go of the kiss, sometimes grabbing her tits as you fuck her from behind, sometimes just holding her sweet belly. Then shooting your load or loads into her for as hard and as long as you can and screaming in rage and delight -- then just looking into her eyes hard for a brief moment and letting her go completely.

And that's just the first time -- and over time, if the girl is hot enough and makes you hard every time, your understanding of her deepens and you learn the best and most correct ways to fuck her, the ways that allow you to use her body and even her mind -- because girls have sexual minds if no other kind -- as rightly and as unforgettably as possible. That's why a one night stand with a hot girl is almost worthless -- you need to fuck her over time to really understand the best ways to fuck her and savor every part of her body and find what works best.

And every girl is different, her face, the way she goes down on her knees and how fast and how heavily she does it, what she is like when your come is shooting into her throat, how her hair feels in your hand when she is sucking, how sexually glum and unsmiling and dedicated she can get when sucking, how naturally she plays with her pussy while being fucked in the mouth or ass, what her skin tone is like when walking on the street on a cold day, or just taking off her clothes, and how it changes when she is sweating and flushed when being fucked. Her voice and what her whimper is like when she comes. How she kisses. All those things are infinitely various, unique to each girl and even each experience -- and the lover of pussy relishes each and every one, in turn -- if they are at all worth relishing. The screaming, groaning orgasm inside a luscious wet or greased hole is only the necessary culmination of an experience -- it does not come close to exhausting it.

And finally, who cares about the "sense of accomplishment" (except for every dude out there but I forget that sometimes LOL). It's not the quest for validation or accomplishment that drives the true lover of ass and inveterate lecher -- it is the love of the thing itself, of the female body as a sex object and the virtually endless variety and intensity of pleasure that it can give to the man who loves it. And that -- the passionate love, relish, and delight in the thing itself, quite apart from all psychology whether it be the psychology of validation, or accomplishment, or any other variety -- is what I find sadly all too rare, virtually non-existent, whether among the "elites" or anywhere else.

Post: #28

And of course I should add -- lest it be misunderstood -- that the love of pussy cannot, for very long, be the only or even the main source of interest in a man's life. The life of the mind comes first because it is a far vaster and more inexhaustible sphere than the life of the body. I wrote about that in this thread from a while ago.

But the love of pussy for its own sake can and should be a large part of a strongly sexed man's life -- and it can be its main concentration at times though not at all times. And while it is part of the life of the body, it is also not separate or distinct from the life of the mind. A man who has no real interest in and understanding of pussy has a mind that is necessarily deficient, because he is unable to direct his attention to the things that are of greatest value and to adjudicate their value properly.

And being into pussy is one of the things that keeps a man in league with life -- you walk on the street and you see the girls and the jeans and blouses they wear and you hear their stupid and enraging chatter, and you see life as it is -- you enter into it in an organic way. Whereas a man who has no real interest in pussy often loses a real connection to life and to all that it has to offer -- his mind becomes dry and he often finds himself drawn to thin and reductive ideologies that seem to him more persuasive than they should be because he has lost that vital connection. Never take advice from or trust a man who has no libido (except in narrow technical matters, of course, but I am talking about general life advice). He is not likely to truly see and understand the world as it is, and his knowledge will be thin and insufficiently fine-grained. Find a very intelligent and persuasive lecher and listen to him closely.

Post: #29

(03-25-2015 06:17 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  And of course I should add -- lest it be misunderstood -- that the love of pussy cannot, for very long, be the only or even the main source of interest in a man's life. The life of the mind comes first because it is a far vaster and more inexhaustible sphere than the life of the body.

But the love of pussy for its own sake can and should be a large part of a strongly sexed man's life -- and it can be its main concentration at times though not at all times.

You're bringing a tear to my eye; that was beautiful, dawg. Believe it or not, reading that helped me achieve some clarity. The path of the pussy hunter can be wearisome: weeks where you get blown out by chicks who can't do better than you, staving off the creeping thirst that follows a crushing rejection, dates that explode in your face for no apparent reason, soul-killing harpies who see your shine and try to snuff it. All that shit can make a man wanna go, "fuck it. I can settle for this" and just shack up with a below average chick. But I think you put it in perspective for me.

Post: #30

How do you define "elites"?

I'm definitely an elitist, but I'm not sure I would meet your definition of elite. I know a few men who fit most people's definition of elite and have met many more. While they have more money and connections than I do, I can't think of any privilege they have that I don't have. Lizard of OZ is correct in describing their lives as uninspired, the same as most other men.

The main privilege that I can think of is getting away with more criminal behavior. Partially that is driven by (well-documented) bias in the criminal justice system and partially it's due to the fact that we can afford to hide our crimes better.

You have to differentiate among elites though. Elites in government are a different breed and far more criminal than elites in private business.

Post: #31

(03-25-2015 06:17 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  And of course I should add -- lest it be misunderstood -- that the love of pussy cannot, for very long, be the only or even the main source of interest in a man's life. The life of the mind comes first because it is a far vaster and more inexhaustible sphere than the life of the body. I wrote about that in this thread from a while ago.

But the love of pussy for its own sake can and should be a large part of a strongly sexed man's life -- and it can be its main concentration at times though not at all times. And while it is part of the life of the body, it is also not separate or distinct from the life of the mind. A man who has no real interest in and understanding of pussy has a mind that is necessarily deficient, because he is unable to direct his attention to the things that are of greatest value and to adjudicate their value properly.

And being into pussy is one of the things that keeps a man in league with life -- you walk on the street and you see the girls and the jeans and blouses they wear and you hear their stupid and enraging chatter, and you see life as it is -- you enter into it in an organic way. Whereas a man who has no real interest in pussy often loses a real connection to life and to all that it has to offer -- his mind becomes dry and he often finds himself drawn to thin and reductive ideologies that seem to him more persuasive than they should be because he has lost that vital connection. Never take advice from or trust a man who has no libido (except in narrow technical matters, of course, but I am talking about general life advice). He is not likely to truly see and understand the world as it is, and his knowledge will be thin and insufficiently fine-grained. Find a very intelligent and persuasive lecher and listen to him closely.

I'm speaking blasphemy here.

I sincerely disagree even with your secondary, "it shouldn't be the main dish but a big side dish post". Looking at some of the gents who made slaying pussy their life goal or those that are primarily focusing on it, those guys look like bonobos. Men driven purely by their groins. A rocker friend of mine who slays chicks regularly just graduated college and came to me asking foor a job. He's an alright guy and you can expect a good time with him. But during the day forget about it. I wouldn't hire him at all.

Players and even the rich trust fund or entrepreneurial ones don't get into true positions of power unless they carry themselves with some pose and dignity. The player lifestyle offers neither and real power brokers can sniff one out a mile away. Enjoy women and what they have to offer, but for chrissake be discreet and pump the brakes.

Don't get me wrong, game and understanding frame is important. Yet in terms of priorities it should be a much smaller dish than your suggesting.

However the time wasted chasing lizards could easily be spent doing something else more productive. Rockefeller spent years being a good boy and built an empire which he is remembered for. It wasn't until his old age that he started getting loosey with women. When are you going to build your legacy?

Post: #32

Beast, you need to brush up on your history dude. Some of the greatest and most consequential men to have ever lived had a legendary libido and were unstoppable cunthounds. Did you know that good old Ben Franklin probably fucked more pussy than Wilt Chamberlain -- no wonder his mug is on that $100 bill that the ladies like so much. Guys like Picasso who was legendary, many if not most of the great Renaissance Italians -- hell, do you think any of the painters whose works you go to the good museums to see didn't fuck their models left and right? Einstein was a surprisingly randy fellow who liked his maids... the list goes on and on.

The idea that you need to be a monk or a prude to leave a great legacy is utterly false. What is true is that you need to avoid very bad mistakes with women, like a disastrous marriage or love affair; and if you want to keep going into an extended and happy prime you need to avoid a dissolute lifestyle, boozing and drugging and too many late nights, that men who chase pussy sometimes succumb to. Again Ben Franklin is a great example, the paradigm of an early to bed early to rise, self-made, hard-working, prudent, happily married, and absolutely relentless lecher and cunthound. No wonder the dude was the greatest and most influential American of all time.

More to the point, if you read my post carefully, the real key is to have a high libido and a continuous interest in pussy, and appreciation for it; it is not always necessary to act on that interest. There will indeed be periods in a man's life when he mainly abstains from actual dealings with pussy, and sublimates his libido to other pursuits -- although there may also be other periods of constant and avid engagement, there is a rhythm to these things. But the interest in and the appreciation of pussy goes on at all times, whether a man is actively pursuing that interest at the moment or not. That is the key to sustaining that vital connection that keeps a man's brains and balls moist and supple and in league with life. It is neglected at one's own peril.

Post: #33

(03-26-2015 08:35 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Beast, you need to brush up on your history dude. Some of the greatest and most consequential men to have ever lived had a legendary libido and were unstoppable cunthounds. Did you know that good old Ben Franklin probably fucked more pussy than Wilt Chamberlain -- no wonder his mug is on that $100 bill that the ladies like so much. Guys like Picasso who was legendary, many if not most of the great Renaissance Italians -- hell, do you think any of the painters whose works you go to the good museums to see didn't fuck their models left and right? Einstein was a surprisingly randy fellow who liked his maids... the list goes on and on.

The idea that you need to be a monk or a prude to leave a great legacy is utterly false. What is true is that you need to avoid very bad mistakes with women, like a disastrous marriage or love affair; and if you want to keep going into an extended and happy prime you need to avoid a dissolute lifestyle, boozing and drugging and too many late nights, that men who chase pussy sometimes succumb to. Again Ben Franklin is a great example, the paradigm of an early to bed early to rise, self-made, hard-working, prudent, happily married, and absolutely relentless lecher and cunthound. No wonder the dude was the greatest and most influential American of all time.

More to the point, if you read my post carefully, the real key is to have a high libido and a continuous interest in pussy, and appreciation for it; it is not always necessary to act on that interest. There will indeed be periods in a man's life when he mainly abstains from actual dealings with pussy, and sublimates his libido to other pursuits -- although there may also be other periods of constant and avid engagement, there is a rhythm to these things. But the interest in and the appreciation of pussy goes on at all times, whether a man is actively pursuing that interest at the moment or not. That is the key to sustaining that vital connection that keeps a man's brains and balls moist and supple and in league with life. It is neglected at one's own peril.

All of those men accomplished something. They worked hard, focused on the task at hand, and enjoyed the party and women afterwards. They directed their libido into work which comprised almost 75% of their life.

When your work is the reward, (working to get laid) the reward loses its luster. It has nothing to do with being a prude and all to do with directing your energies towards constructive tasks.

So you have a high notch count, cool story. What did you accomplish and learn to get those bangs? That's where the glory is. Banging will never lead to glory.

Post: #34

Beast, the ideas here are quite general. Please read my posts more carefully.

Post: #35

(03-26-2015 08:47 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Beast, the ideas here are quite general. Please read my posts more carefully.

Whats to read? All I see is a wall of text from a guy more concerned with getting his crotch wet than making something of himself. Nothing wrong with that, I was once caught up in that act too when I was between the ages of 18-22. However that didn't lead to anything worthwhile and most likely set me back from accomplishing goals that I would be remembered for.

Everyone remembers Mozart, Julius Ceaser, Mao Zedong, Hitler, Alexander the Great, and Ghengis Kahn by their accomplishments.

Nowhere in the history books do they mention their sexual dalliances (maybe Ghengis with his harems). They're remember for their glory.

Do you want to be remembered for your notch count or by some accomplishments that changed the world?

"Here lies the Lizard of Oz, notch count at 173. Died doing the thing he loved".

Regardless, do what makes you happy. Cheers 8)

Post: #36

I don't know about you guys, but I don't give a fuck if I am remembered for anything. I'll be dead and eaten by worms. I'd much rather be happy when I'm alive than remembered when I'm dead.

Post: #37

(03-25-2015 09:05 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 10:37 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Provide proof.

What do you mean about Bosnia?

(03-25-2015 05:58 AM)dads Wrote:  I'm very curious on this. Any sources out there I could read up on?

Damn. I thought my post was an obvious parody of the kinds of lunatic ideas that people have about the life of the so-called "elites", but maybe the ideas are so widespread that someone can take it seriously? Rustler do you really think I believe that "elites" (LOL) must own (because of some diabolic pact) **at least two** "underage sex slaves"? Or that there are Taken style "sex slave auctions" going on all over the world right under our noses? Or that more than a vanishingly small number of people, "elites" or otherwise, have the least interest in, let alone access to, actual child porn, or the mythical Hollywood idea of "snuff"? It is true, by the by, that there is some very nasty footage from the Bosnian war of the 1990s that has circulated -- probably some of the nastiest out there. But let me assure you that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are not frantically masturbating to that footage in the privacy of their homes, LOL!!!

Man, with all that stuff that gets thrown around the interwebs and here at the RVF we at times cannot tell parody/sarcasm apart from serious statements.