Post: #1

TLDR : I daygamed an Italian chick , we go back to her neighbourhood to smoke weed , she lets me kiss her and squeeze her arse but she doesn't let me take her number .

So the other day I run into an Italian chick about 10 mins from where I live . I ask for directions then I double back and go direct . I start teasing her and building rapport and eventually she asks me " do you smoke ? " to which I reply " do you smoke weed ? " . She says yes so I say " fuck it do you want to just go back to your house and blaze up ? "

She agrees and we turn around and start walking to her house ( she lives in the area ) , I'm thinking that its a done deal . We reach her house and she says " wait here , I'm gonna get the stuff , you can't come in I don't live by myself " , I go for the Hail Mary and ask if I can use her toilet and she refuses .

So she comes back and we joke around for 5 more minutes and I go for the kiss . She turns her cheek but she doesn't pull back , so I start kissing/licking her neck . She stays for a short moment before pulling back .

No biggie , we smoke and joke around some more . She's asking me a lot of pesonal questions which I give illogical answers to .

As were talking I notice that this girl is very similar to an ex I had extreme oneitis for . Similar face/physique/mannerisms. The only difference is she's got a fatter ass and a sexy Italian accent to boot . We were talking a lot and we didn't have a lighter so we had asking people for lighters .

Anyway , at this point I'm squeezing/slapping her ass and sexualising the conversation . She tells me to stop referring to sex so I guess she didn't like that , she didn't say anything when I was squeezing her ass though . She tells me I shouldn't speak so dirty as I have " beautiful lips " .

Eventually I tell her to speak Italian to me as her English is hurting my ears ( joke ) , she does so and I tell her it sounds sexy . I ask her what she said and she says " I asked you why do you want to kiss me ? "

Shit test recognised . I simply said " because your cute " and went for the kiss . It wasn't the best response but she let me kiss her twice before pulling back .

We talk and joke some more and she tells me she thinks it's weird that I like her as she doesn't usually leave the house without make up on . She then takes out her phone and shows me her profile pictures . By this point I'm high as fuck and it's affecting my game . Instead of making a funny comment I somply scroll through and nod my head . She asks for my Facebook and I type in " Kanye west " on the Facebook search bar .

It made her laugh but I think she was fustrated that she still didn't even know my name or age at that point .

About 5 mins later she gets a phone call and she tells me she has to leave , I'm disappointed as I was still thinking of a way to weasel myself into her house but I'm thinking " it's cool , I've built some good rapport and I've gotten some investment , I'll take the number close and fuck
her on the first date . "

So I pull out my phone and go " put your number in my phone we'll hang out again later this week "

She says " this was nice but no sorry I'm okay "

This confused the hell out of me so I said " wait what ?"
" I said this was nice but Ive got to go now , besides i don't even know your name "
" okay we'll take my number "
" I don't need it "
" are you sure ? "
" yeah "
" alright well take care "

At this point i eject . I'm not quite sure what I did wrong . Maybe she reminded to much of my ex ( I caught myself looking at her with " that " look a couple times in the conversation . But then again she did kiss me and was obviously attracted so maybe she had a boyfriend .

Post: #2

Probably a boyfriend.

Post: #3

She got her validation, left satisfied and that was that. If she gave you her number she would have gone ghost anyway.

Post: #4

(03-23-2015 03:56 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  She got her validation, left satisfied and that was that. If she gave you her number she would have gone ghost anyway.

This exactly. You gave her everything she wanted and she didn't have to invest anymore (giving up the pussy). The equivalent feeling for us men would be getting a ONS, feeling satisfied with the sex but not wanting to repeat. This is why I no longer physically escalate unless I'm in a place that will allow me the chance to seal the deal.

Post: #5

Kissing and making out seems to be pretty complicated to girls than to us. I learned this from my mentor.

Guys usually think "Oh I made out, that's good she's hooked" How SHE makes out with you is very important. Is she participating? Does her tongue actively seek yours? Can you feel the passion?

Women will let men kiss them just to feel validation like Vincent said. That doesn't mean anything. But active kissing on her part actually means something, sometimes even more than sex. That's why prostitutes don't kiss.

Post: #6

Seems like this was a lose/lose situation for me . My attempt to invite myself in was refused .

But we were still isolated so if I didn't escalate It could be interpreted as a lack of confidence and I risk coming off as shy or even boring . But if I do escalate I'm giving her validation .

Post: #7

(03-24-2015 03:34 PM)Sensei Creation Wrote:  Seems like this was a lose/lose situation for me . My attempt to invite myself in was refused .

But we were still isolated so if I didn't escalate It could be interpreted as a lack of confidence and I risk coming off as shy or even boring . But if I do escalate I'm giving her validation .

Nah dont worry about it bro. We all make plenty of blunders in the beginning, who the fuck cares? Sure maybe you didn't optimize the situation but so what? You tried all you can do at the time. That in itself is a victory.

It's just a chick. Bitches be crazy. Dimes a dozen. In a few years you will think back to this incident and laugh "man I was such a noob". Good times

Post: #8

(03-24-2015 03:58 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 03:34 PM)Sensei Creation Wrote:  Seems like this was a lose/lose situation for me . My attempt to invite myself in was refused .

But we were still isolated so if I didn't escalate It could be interpreted as a lack of confidence and I risk coming off as shy or even boring . But if I do escalate I'm giving her validation .

Nah dont worry about it bro. We all make plenty of blunders in the beginning, who the fuck cares? Sure maybe you didn't optimize the situation but so what? You tried all you can do at the time. That in itself is a victory.

It's just a chick. Bitches be crazy. Dimes a dozen. In a few years you will think back to this incident and laugh "man I was such a noob". Good times

Dalaran is right on the money. It's a running joke with myself that I find new and creative ways to fuck up my chances with women but as long as we learn from the experiences it's win/win. It's hindsight but the only thing you could have done was go for the number and try for a day 2. Of course you have no guarantee that would work any better...

Post: #9

what's the point of kissing or groping random girl in a public place? great way for triggering asd.

she just enjoyed burst of good emotions and had no other intentions. instead of getting physical you should have just talked to her to see if she's available and get to know her a bit.
the whole point of game is to get the girl. when you look at a situation you are with a girl and you have end goal in mind then kissing etc is the last thing on your mind.

Post: #10

I feel what the OP was going through in that situation though.

Sometimes its tough to decide whether to mediate between keeping her on ice for the next meet up, and striking while the Iron is hot. Push too far and you scare the cat, don't make a move and your filed away in the chump cabinet.