Post: #1

1. Why Night Game?
Even though Night game is a shadow of what it once was, partially because of the internet and because of Clubs that are moving to Tables for Whales, Night Game is where I think everyone should learn game.

Night game offers a concentration of impulsive lizards waiting and wanting a bit of dick in their lives. Make no mistake, that's why they're there. Every last one of em can buy some 2 Buck Chuck and drink on the solo. They go for the liquor, music, lights, excitement, and TO BE HIT ON BY GUYS. The warpaint is on, the heels shod, and the bitch shields up.

- hot chicks
- impulsive chicks
- chicks who are happy because of the music and vibe
- drunk/high chicks
- lots of chicks, all dressed to be sexy
- They're going to be in bed with or without you in 3-4 hours

Ideal night game situations allow you to get in a lot of approaches, build up your tolerance, destroy your approach anxiety, and have a reasonable chance of having sex within 3-5 hours.

2. Night Game vs Day Game

In defense of day game
- chicks aren't *as* made up
- the bitch shields *can* be lower. (but lizards get approached and catcalled all day if they're attractive)
- it's low investment

That being said, Day Game doesn't typically give you that night game ease, unless it's particular environments.

3) The Day Game Density Exceptions

"Big City Square" - in NYC it's Union Square, elsewhere in the Americas you have to find yourself close to a college campus. Very few places have that day time density comparable to a decent night club. This usually lacks a key ingredient for inhibition unleashment...alcohol

"The Beach" - the boardwalk can be a good look
"The day time concert/festival with lots of drinking"
"A good higher end shopping mall on the weekend"

There are other examples, but usually you don't get night time opportunities during the day.

4) Night Game - Bars v. Clubs

Clubs serve alcohol. Bars often have DJ's.

What really separates a Bar from a Club is whether or not people are dancing.

The major advantage to going to a Dance club over a bar is that

1) girls feel sexual when they dance (dancing is all about showing fertility)

2) if you can dance, you can -
a) put your hands on her,
b) lead her around,
c) get social proof
d) they pass out Ferraris for the best guy on the dance floor*

*not true

5) Types of bars and clubs

Bars
- Dives and Neighborhood joints - sometimes on the corner, sometimes in a strip mall - this is where you go for local tang and cougars.

- Hotel Bars - speaking of cougars, keep an eye out for the conventions coming to town. You'll always find some randy bitches @ the Hampton Inn. A chick sitting alone at a hotel bar is looking for sex. (but she may also be a pro(stitute) so keep that in mind as well.

- Sports Bars - this is where you go to watch sports. I've seen guys run here, but in general a sports bar is a sausage fest.

- the Bar with a dance floor and DJ - This is ideal in my opinion, because essentially you have a small make shift club. Easy to see everyone, easy to get to and from the bar, probably has a smoking area. And in general, people dress down a little. You won't get the hottest of the hotties, but more than enough cuties and chicks with good bodies go to these places

- Hip Bars/Hipster Bars - Usually packed. This is where you're going to cut your teeth in terms of game if you can't dance.

- High End Bars/Mixology/Bar @ a Hip Restaurant - This is where you go custom suited down. Chances are you can't be Team No Appetizer here either. Less dense, and the chicks split between gold diggers, hotties, scenesters and foodies.

Clubs

- Small Local clubs - have small time usually not as hot chicks. But trawl these when you're coming up

- The Typical club - less than 500 people, 1 dj, possibly a VIP area

- The Mega Club - multiple levels, dress code, cover charge, expensive drinks

- Vegas - I don't need to say more.

With that in mind, I'd say beginners should focus on
- smaller bars
- smaller clubs

6. How you should learn night game

a) Go out multiple times a week.
- helps you get used to it
- see who goes out every night
- find all the good venues and great dj's

b) Focus your energy between Sunday and Thursday
- I've said it before, if a chick is drinking Whisky Sours on a Tuesday night, she ain't doing shit Wednesday morning. Why should you allow her to sleep alone?

- There's always some really good stuff going on during the week.

When you think about it, most clubs make their rent from 11-2 am Friday and Satuday. So 24 hours pays for the entire month. Everything else they do is gravy.

Not as popular stuff happens during the week, but chicks who go out for AfroPop Thursdays or Bloody Indy Sundays are not your average type chicks. They're usually not the typical basic Ugg wearing, pumpkin spice latte bitches that you normally meet on a Friday night.

c) go solo
- your boys will slow you down, especially if they're not into the game
- you'll learn a whole lot more

d) don't drink (a lot)
- being hungover sucks
- being sharp helps you when you talk to these broads and not get caught up

I'd say it's a 2 beer max, and nurse that mf'er.

7. Prep for the night game

- you should already be taking care of yourself, eating right, exercising, lifting heavy, sprinting, vitamins
- you should already have a good hair cut, clipped nails, a sparkling fresh mouth
- you should ideally have your own place, your own car/reliable transportation

The thing you might not have is appropriate clothes.

If you've got some guns, a fitted dress shirt, polo, or nice white t-shirt will show off your merchandise.

Otherwise, you need to figure out what people are wearing and either dress the best you can in that style or adopt a recognizable style. Night Game as a newb is not really the place to wear a Top Hat or feather boa. Once you get the vibe in your city, that's when you can spice things up.

To figure out what to wear, I suggest that you go to club websites and see what the guys are wearing. All the Parties comes to mind. Just heading to the mall and hoping the cute chubby girl @ Express for Men will hook you up is asking for trouble.

- house should be clean, smelling good
- bathroom is immaculate
- alcohol, weed, pills, chocolate chip cookies...whatever your vice is, should be stocked
- condoms in the wallet/pocket
- even if you don't take your shoes off when you enter your spot, temporarily do it so when a broad comes through, she takes her shoes off. (social convention is great for some things)
- no clocks anywhere

8. The Night Of

So you found a cool club night on Thursday. You can afford to be a little tired Friday morning, no big deal.

Going into it, you know that the chicks there are cool with a bang that night with the right guy.

And guess what, you're Mr. Right.

Spot is prepped. You looking dope. Smelling like new cologne. Jamming your favorite hype music.
You're gonna drive there, take a cab, or public transport.
If you meet a chick and she's good to go, you know what to do.
If she's into you, but needs more time, you have a bounce location between the club and your house in mind.

9. The Club Itself

For Newb Players
- meet and greet
- get the lay of the land

Emergency Exits in case them boys wanna start shooting?
Where is the bathroom?
Are there couches for chilling?
Where's the dance floor?
where's the bar?
Where's the smoking area?
Where's parking?

You want to know where you can move a chick around while you're in the club.
Most of the chicks you deal with and end up banging come to the club with people. So sometimes you gotta pull the baby gazelle from the rest of the herd.

10. For the long term players, you want to lock down the spot, and then build a circuit

The Lock down - meet and greet the door guy, bouncer, bartender, and waitress
The Circuit - see if you can find the promoter or dj. Get their info, and see where else they spin/promote. Now you'll know where to find similar girls, and might be able to leverage your way into the scene.

11) Club Timeline

In many places club hours are between 10-2. When a club closes @ 4/6, people still leave earlier than that.

Now most clubs i've been to open the doors @ 8/9.
No one really starts getting there until after 10.
By 11:30 the line is there and the dj is starting to play good stuff, but not the most hype.
12:00 the chicks are getting tipsy and probably dancing
1:00 pm - peak at the club typically, and chicks start to leave.

1:50 am - the scramble, dudes who ain't got nothing for the night start to get bold and come off the wall.
2:00-2:10 - if you close the club this is when you walk out
2:10-2:30 - last ditch effort to pull a chick. Also time to do some parking lot pimping if you shined up the Chevy Cobalt previously.

So as a new player, you might want to get their early.
As a vet trying to lock a new place down, you get their early to connect with folks

But if you're a true bachelor, you show up Around 11 ish to get at the chicks after the alcohol kicks in and the dancing is starting.

12) Your approach to the game

Everyone has a different approach, a different mindset, a different set of assumptions.

I know that a man can talk his way into pussy. So I know I can convert a reluctant girl.

But you might not think that way, you might think that a man can only screen a girl to see if she's down to fuck him that night.

It doesn't matter. Just know what your basic assumptions are and test them.

With that in mind, I offer 3 ways to handle your BI.

The Spam Approach - talk to every chick there and see what's up.

The RSD/Boomerrang approach - Talk to every set for 2-5 minutes, get phone #'s and get the logistics for every girl. You'll know quickly if you have some chemistry with a chick. You'll also know fairly quickly if she lives by herself around the corner....

After working the room, pick one chick - hottest? most in to you? best logistics? - and focus on her. Call all the other ones the next day.

The talk to the hottest chick you think you can pull and stay in the set as long ass possible - You can't get good @ the game incrementally, imo. A good opener isn't really good unless it results in a bang.

Lot of guys can open a set, but they don't know enough about the next step in the sequence to get to the promised pussy land. Often they end up changing their openers to make the next steps easier.

Study long, study right!

Whichever method you initially pick, you'll eventually use all of them and then none of them.

13) Run Your Game

This is your black box. I don't know what your game is. Whether it's heavy on compliance, heavy on qualifying, super jokey, lots of kino, observational humor, childish pranks, bemused alpha, stacks of routines - that's up to you and your guru.

The advantages of running game at night means you can be a little more daring, a little more forceful, a little more risque at night without weirding the chick out. And it's typically got enough density that you can try a bunch of things out.

Night Game's looseness benefits all methods.

14) When she's ready - Head on home

You might need to bounce to your bounce location.
You might need some comfort during the drive home, cab ride to her place, on the train...et cetera.

Once she gets to your spot, or you get to hers, and depending on the heat previously generated - commence the hooking up.

If you can sense that she's tense, kiss her and then back off. Up the ante, and then pull back. Tease her until she can't take it anymore.

And then....READ THE BIBLE TOGETHER!

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Feel free to ask questions.

WIA

Post: #2

Good write up. I try to tell people to never accept night game as reality. It's an improv script full of bullshit and everyone is playing along. You have to smile and go out to have fun. The moment you look around at the club and say ""Fuck this. I'm done hanging out with all these immature kids and fat women with bitch shields..." Well, that's the moment you lose the game. You essentially bow out due to you inability to adapt.

Post: #3

Damn that is a great post.

Post: #4

This has gotta be one of the top 10 datasheets on this site. Right up there with First Date Bang, Zero Date Bang, BlurredSevens' pictures, and TravelerKai's China sheet. Top notch stuff, especially for a younger man like myself who's just getting into this scene.

Post: #5

Damn, thanks for writing this, super useful. And very true LINUX.

Post: #6

(03-22-2015 08:02 PM)LINUX Wrote:  ""Fuck this. I'm done hanging out with all these immature kids and fat women with bitch shields..." Well, that's the moment you lose the game. You essentially bow out due to you inability to adapt.

I often find myself feeling that way at clubs. So much so that I actually don't go out to clubs anymore. I don't think I've seen the inside of a club in 5 months or so.

Archie's data sheet has me considering the club scene again.

Good stuff.

Post: #7

(03-23-2015 08:51 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(03-22-2015 08:02 PM)LINUX Wrote:  ""Fuck this. I'm done hanging out with all these immature kids and fat women with bitch shields..." Well, that's the moment you lose the game. You essentially bow out due to you inability to adapt.

I often find myself feeling that way at clubs. So much so that I actually don't go out to clubs anymore. I don't think I've seen the inside of a club in 5 months or so.

Archie's data sheet has me considering the club scene again.

Good stuff.

where do you go?

Post: #8

Why didn't I write this first

Good shit as usual

Post: #9

Yeah, I get that a lot of these new guys are trying go dive right into daygame for whatever reason (alcohol, "bitch shields" or whatever), but you should cut your teeth with night game. No discussion.

Post: #10

(03-24-2015 12:04 AM)the1element Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:51 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(03-22-2015 08:02 PM)LINUX Wrote:  ""Fuck this. I'm done hanging out with all these immature kids and fat women with bitch shields..." Well, that's the moment you lose the game. You essentially bow out due to you inability to adapt.

I often find myself feeling that way at clubs. So much so that I actually don't go out to clubs anymore. I don't think I've seen the inside of a club in 5 months or so.

Archie's data sheet has me considering the club scene again.

Good stuff.

where do you go?

I live in NJ, so there aren't many places without reasonable driving distance. The last time I went out it was to this spot called "Central Park." Typical super loud club full of people I don't like. I know that's a terrible attitude, but the music immediately puts me in a terrible mood because I don't listen to pop, hip-hop or even rock regularly. I'm into metal, jazz, classical, classic rock etc, so listening to whatever shitty music they have on is like being bludgeoned over the head with a club. Compound that with my soft voice and I end up just standing at the bar downing drinks because it's too loud for me interact with anyone.

In a few months I'm moving to a huge city with solid logistics, so I'll actually most likely be able to go out and do this stuff on the regular, so I'm not sweating it.

Post: #11

Great post WIA.

The one piece of advice I would add (especially for the noobs) is to let yourself have some fun. Chatting, dancing, flirting, fucking - these are things that we do for leisure.

Just like pickup basketball - the primary reasons you would play are because its 1. fun and 2. good for you. Sure it's fun to improve and be better than your peers; I love practicing my jumpshot and doing cardio so I can win more than I lose. However, at 5'9" I ain't getting paid to play anytime soon.

The club should be approached this way. As long as you are having fun, your W-L record isn't that important. Don't let anyone tell you that having a ONS is more important than having a great time. If you are really having fun, the pussy will come.

When I first started reading the forum and rolling out solo, I almost used to dread Friday night.

"I must approach 10 girls"
"I must get a number"
"I have to get laid tonight"

In the long-term, that 'life and death' mentality is going to make you hate nightlife and everyone associated!

Take WIA's advice and go out solo to get a few times to get comfortable and learn how to have fun. Put in the 'work' to get better if you are truly unhappy with your game.

I have an AWESOME time 9 out of 10 times I go out. I assure you I don't get laid 9 out of 10 times (or even close to that). Nor do I care.

Post: #12

Thanks for the post man, really good read. I've been reading a lot of stuff recently regarding game and everything associated. I think at a subconscious level I always knew game existed, I just thought it was for 'naturals' only and not something to be learned.

Within the next couple of months I'm moving to the middle of a city and it'll be the first time I have solid logistics so I can't wait (living with my parents at the moment). Obviously I'm a mega newb at the moment but can't wait to get on out there and make myself a better person. I'm pretty much doing everything I can to improve myself right now (exercise, eating right, motivation in study etc) except actually putting myself out there. I blame myself for always being such a shy beta pussy but I am determined to change that, and posts like this make me hungry for it.

That being said, just wondering what BI stands for?

Thanks again pal

(03-22-2015 07:35 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  With that in mind, I offer 3 ways to handle your BI.

Post: #13

^^
BI = business.

Post: #14

(03-24-2015 10:38 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I live in NJ, so there aren't many places without reasonable driving distance. The last time I went out it was to this spot called "Central Park." Typical super loud club full of people I don't like. I know that's a terrible attitude, but the music immediately puts me in a terrible mood because I don't listen to pop, hip-hop or even rock regularly. I'm into metal, jazz, classical, classic rock etc, so listening to whatever shitty music they have on is like being bludgeoned over the head with a club. Compound that with my soft voice and I end up just standing at the bar downing drinks because it's too loud for me interact with anyone.

In a few months I'm moving to a huge city with solid logistics, so I'll actually most likely be able to go out and do this stuff on the regular, so I'm not sweating it.

So let's break this down for the lurkers and readers who like the post, but can't see it applying to their situation.

1. Poor Location

Night Club/Dance club game assumes that these things are withing reasonable distance. I'm from the South, so 30 minutes/30 miles is considered reasonable. But the closer the better.

A poor location is going to hurt you for day game, night game, and online game. All you have is travel game - and that still requires a familiarity with female psychology - which can only be gained from copious interaction. It's not enough that you read how others interact, but you need to know what chicks like about you.

2. Super Loud Club

The environment of a club is usually non-conducive to new player game.
- loud music
- crowded to the point that it's hard to get anywhere
- strobe lights that make me lose my balance
- smoke for whatever reason

With that in mind, the Vegas/Ibiza type situation - wall to wall people/a lot of people high or drunk - You need something other than a good rap or good dance moves to pull. There's almost a certain momentum and "don't give a fuck" attitude necessary for that.

Which is why is why I don't recommend those types of spots for guys new to the game.
It's why I don't recommend going to any club on Friday/Saturday night.

It's not conducive to learning.

Once you've learned how chicks react to you, and how you can make chicks react - then you move into tougher situations - such as the mega club.

3. You don't like the music

This is typically a cultural problem. I for one don't want any of you people listening to Migos, Young Thug, and Rich Homie Quan. No Rick Ross or Lil Wayne. And just because a guy likes Kendrick Lamar or Run the Jewels doesn't mean he actually likes hip hop.

And that's cool. That's fine.

A dude is not a worse person or a better person for having a preference.

Same for Daft Punk and whoever's killing EDM right now. We've had this discussion before, but if a guy doesn't like the way that music sounds NOW, he's not going to like it later.

So don't force it.

You can't go to a place just to tolerate it, you need to go and EMBRACE IT. Ideally you walk into a spot and know when Snoop and Pharell come on, you know when to drop it like it's hot. Because the ultimate end of club game is that the environment CHARGES you up.

When music is the issue, stick to bars.

The same dynamic @ a dance club happens @ a loud and happening bar.
The only real difference is the lack of dancing, so a loss of opportunity @ easy kino that often leads to sex.

Plenty of bars meet all the criteria below.

4. Soft Voice

This is something within a player's control. In most crowded night game environments he is going to have to Yell or Project His voice.

Indeed, having a loud voice will be helpful in quieter environments as well.

WIA

Post: #15

(03-24-2015 07:52 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  WIA, thanks for this breakdown. Very insightful stuff

So let's break this down for the lurkers and readers who like the post, but can't see it applying to their situation.

1. Poor Location

Night Club/Dance club game assumes that these things are withing reasonable distance. I'm from the South, so 30 minutes/30 miles is considered reasonable. But the closer the better.

A poor location is going to hurt you for day game, night game, and online game. All you have is travel game - and that still requires a familiarity with female psychology - which can only be gained from copious interaction. It's not enough that you read how others interact, but you need to know what chicks like about you.

Absolutely. THat's why I'm trying out another city (and country) for a year. Not just for game, but just to see what it's like to live in large city as opposed to a small city.

2. Super Loud Club

The environment of a club is usually non-conducive to new player game.
- loud music
- crowded to the point that it's hard to get anywhere
- strobe lights that make me lose my balance
- smoke for whatever reason

With that in mind, the Vegas/Ibiza type situation - wall to wall people/a lot of people high or drunk - You need something other than a good rap or good dance moves to pull. There's almost a certain momentum and "don't give a fuck" attitude necessary for that.

Which is why is why I don't recommend those types of spots for guys new to the game.
It's why I don't recommend going to any club on Friday/Saturday night.

It's not conducive to learning.

Once you've learned how chicks react to you, and how you can make chicks react - then you move into tougher situations - such as the mega club.

Good points here. I just assumed that everyone got into the game by spam approaching in environments like this. That was always super off putting for me. In fact, I am still mystified by people who CAN pull in these environments.

3. You don't like the music

This is typically a cultural problem. I for one don't want any of you people listening to Migos, Young Thug, and Rich Homie Quan. No Rick Ross or Lil Wayne. And just because a guy likes Kendrick Lamar or Run the Jewels doesn't mean he actually likes hip hop.

And that's cool. That's fine.

A dude is not a worse person or a better person for having a preference.

Same for Daft Punk and whoever's killing EDM right now. We've had this discussion before, but if a guy doesn't like the way that music sounds NOW, he's not going to like it later.

So don't force it.

You can't go to a place just to tolerate it, you need to go and EMBRACE IT. Ideally you walk into a spot and know when Snoop and Pharell come on, you know when to drop it like it's hot. Because the ultimate end of club game is that the environment CHARGES you up.

When music is the issue, stick to bars.

The same dynamic @ a dance club happens @ a loud and happening bar.
The only real difference is the lack of dancing, so a loss of opportunity @ easy kino that often leads to sex.

Plenty of bars meet all the criteria below.

Iam not adverse to bars at all. I usually hit one bar at least once every 1-2 weeks. I"ll look into finding some bars in my area that are a bit more happening. I have a few in mind.

4. Soft Voice

This is something within a player's control. In most crowded night game environments he is going to have to Yell or Project His voice.

Indeed, having a loud voice will be helpful in quieter environments as well.

WIA

Yeah definitely can be controlled. I tend to find that if i'm in an environment that I enjoy that my soft voice isn't an issue and that I'm usually talking to people and enjoying myself. Some people would actually be surprised by assertion that I have a naturally soft voice; I can be a talkative fucker.

Thanks again for this breakdown. The weather is breaking where I am so it is time to go out.

Post: #16

(03-24-2015 10:38 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 12:04 AM)the1element Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 08:51 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(03-22-2015 08:02 PM)LINUX Wrote:  ""Fuck this. I'm done hanging out with all these immature kids and fat women with bitch shields..." Well, that's the moment you lose the game. You essentially bow out due to you inability to adapt.

I often find myself feeling that way at clubs. So much so that I actually don't go out to clubs anymore. I don't think I've seen the inside of a club in 5 months or so.

Archie's data sheet has me considering the club scene again.

Good stuff.

where do you go?

I live in NJ, so there aren't many places without reasonable driving distance. The last time I went out it was to this spot called "Central Park." Typical super loud club full of people I don't like. I know that's a terrible attitude, but the music immediately puts me in a terrible mood because I don't listen to pop, hip-hop or even rock regularly. I'm into metal, jazz, classical, classic rock etc, so listening to whatever shitty music they have on is like being bludgeoned over the head with a club. Compound that with my soft voice and I end up just standing at the bar downing drinks because it's too loud for me interact with anyone.

In a few months I'm moving to a huge city with solid logistics, so I'll actually most likely be able to go out and do this stuff on the regular, so I'm not sweating it.

Type what you want to say on your phone. I can assure you that is way more effective than yelling your lungs out

Post: #17

^ I do that to talk with bartenders in loud places, actually.

Post: #18

I don't see why people resort to competing with the music. It's counterintuitive really

Post: #19

What do you mean, exactly? If you're at a club, you're there to get women, but the music is a huge conversation block, that goes double for those of us who don't want to dance. Or do you mean dance since the music is loud?

Post: #20

(03-22-2015 07:35 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  b) Focus your energy between Sunday and Thursday
- I've said it before, if a chick is drinking Whisky Sours on a Tuesday night, she ain't doing shit Wednesday morning. Why should you allow her to sleep alone?

Killer datasheet, and fun to read. Here's a thought though.

A lot of chicks drinking on weeknights actually have to get up early. They don't want to go home with a stranger. Hell I just sent one home who has to go to work at 5AM tomorrow. There's no way she's sleeping with me yet she was drinking with me.

My reason for going out on weekdays would be that the chicks who go out on weekdays are more open to doing crazy things. The chick going out on a Friday is doing what every single person in the world does by default on a Friday night, so by definition she's a close minded simple bitch.

So my thought is, on a Friday night there are more girls willing to bang, but the ratio of girls open to banging strangers is smaller. Is this reasonable thinking?

Post: #21

I mean people; men or women who try to talk when the music is blaring.

Post: #22

(03-22-2015 07:35 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Often they end up changing their openers to make the next steps easier.

Study long, study right!

I thought this part was interesting.

Can you comment more on this?

Specifically, how are guys changing their openers in order to make the next steps easier, and is that a good thing? Can you break this down some more?

I've noticed my "go to" openers evolve and change all the time, and I think it's because I'm thinking more like a chess player and less like a gambler.

i.e. "if I say this, it will spike her sexual temperature, but then things die quickly after" so lately my openers have been tamer, but more strategic. They get the flow going, but I take my time escalating and don't come in guns blazing.

Is that what you're talking about?

Post: #23

(03-25-2015 12:22 AM)GreenHills Wrote:  So my thought is, on a Friday night there are more girls willing to bang, but the ratio of girls open to banging strangers is smaller. Is this reasonable thinking?

It's reasonable, but my experience has been different.

Avoid Fri/Sat because it's not conducive to learning. Not for the introvert.

Weekends might be more conducive to banging because
+ more women

But you gotta to consider
- more intereference
- more competition

If you're learning how to approach, how to get the courage to walk over in 3 seconds, spit your first words.....hold it.....don't depend on a reaction....and then keep hitting her with your slang for another 2 minutes - it's easier to notice things, be heard, and get positive reactions during the week.

Easier...but not easy.

In a huge fri/sat night crowd, you have more anonymity, so you can fade back into the crowd if you fail - but if you're new, you'll think that there are even more people watching me.

The technical aspects/the practical considerations of game are easy to explain and figure out solutions for.

The mental aspects of the game are not.

You're fighting your own internal battle with every new chick.
AND
You're also trying to influence a chick's emotions and thoughts with every approach.

Your own battle is tough, but at least it's under your control.

Influencing the chick is something that's objectively is beyond your control.

With Sandra, you can make her laugh and go nowhere.
With Xiaoting, you can make her marvel at something you say and go nowhere.

But if you made Sandra think positive or Xiaoting laugh - you could have bagged both.

You'll just never know for sure.
Not with any dependable certainty, not for a while at least.

It's why so many guys
- depend on canned openers (nothing wrong with them, imo)
- give up on game

But once you start getting any success, your brain starts to notice when chicks
- hear you
- when they react to you by moving closer, trying to hear you, little curves of a smile, positive looks

So the learning starts.

The thing is that understanding body language isn't really happening on a conscious level. It's the sort of thing that's hard to notice, articulate, and respond to in real time.
Yet, facial expressions and body language are understood w/o verbal language by virtually all humans (autistics notwithstanding).

So guys get better and get smoother, not necessarily because they've memorized their raps and know what to look for consciously, but unconsciously through repeated exposure their brain works to recognize the signals. In truth both the conscious and unconscious are working together.

Sex is everywhere, it's normal and natural. It's necessary for the propagation of the species.

But those opportunities to let "nature take over" are tightly controlled by our society. In every advanced society, socialization....education....economy holds back on our natural desires. Women too.

Going out, and dealing with lots of chicks, using your conscious and subconscious, is how you get good.

Whatever school of thought you like in terms of game, you will use and eventually incorporate and internalize. And there's so much sex available that almost every method works - with enough volume and feedback.

Don't tell anyone I said this, but "Just Be Yourself" is a viable strategy IF YOU HAVE THE VOLUME.

Most guys not in the game, can probably REMEMBER every single girl they approached. They know where they were, who she was, what she looked like. JBY wasn't working for those 10 or so girls they've talked to since the 4th grade. How could it? These guys are lusting after chicks in their class, work, church, gyms...but only seriously ask a handful of chicks out in their entire lives.

No chance for meaningful feedback, no chance for their brains to learn how to look for body language.

But if they JBY'd for 200 girls, they probably would have found someone to bang. Now the relationship would have been horrible, and it might be another 200 girls to meet the 1 to bang - but the problem is more volume than the lack of efficacy.

So you're right to think that there are more bangable girls on Fri/Saturday.
But at the beginner level, when you're still trying to work things out, work on yourself - you won't get enough of the conscious and unconscious feed back. It's as if those hotties don't exist.

Furthermore, when you expand your going out to all the nights (and all the days) - you get more experiences as well as what I believe are better chances to bang.

This is vitally important for the introverted guy or the shy guy.

The crowded night club drains the introverted guys energy. He's either bored or angry or sullen.

The shy guy is just scared. Doesn't want to be seen, to be found out. Thinks he'll be laughed at.

But there's a shy guy, an introverted guy, and the life of the party in every man.
Put the shy guy in his element, and he's a lion among men.
Take the extroverted guy out of a his kingdom, and he gets antsy and frustrated.

Like the typical dude bro @ a Frat Boy Bar will shut the fuck up when you take him to a reggae spot. Afraid for no reason. Not vibing with the music, even though he spends a lot of time smoking weed to Bob Marley in his room.

Context matters. Environment matters.

For guys coming up in the game from humble social beginnings, it's important for him to be in a situation that challenges, but doesn't overwhelm.

WIA

Post: #24

for newbies i wouldn't recommend going to small venues. there is much less anonymity there so every mistake is more visible. it's easy to crash and burn there.

big dark danceclubs are much better as training field in my opinion

Post: #25

night game is excellent for newbies and (and guys who manifested their aloof disposition), but horrible for blue-pill egomaniacs who believe they have game.

potential bangs will be lost if your wingman isn't up to snuff.

edit: on number three, i'm a fan of both rick ross and run the jewels. have to broaden my musical palette when it comes to the nightlife.