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I've signed his petition.

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In about 100 years I wonder what people will think when they'll see the pictures of multiple mens walking in womens heel, and be happy about it! Shit...crazy times we live in huh!
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Hopefully they kick him out of that bullshit liberal arts college, he signs up for RVF, reads my post and then creates a future for himself pursuing a degree in one of the sciences.
03-19-2015 05:09 PM
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Just a little off-topic: How the hell have as first name "Pancho"? Pancho, in spanish, is a nickname for anyone called Francisco.

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Sounds like a cool kid, but I hope he's not digging a hole for himself or getting wrapped too tight.

Also a case for the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. http://www.thefire.org

The Reed College newspaper has a story on it, it's worth reading in entirety if you're interested:

http://www.reedquest.org/freshman-exclud...ntroversy/

Quote:Despite his complaint about Savery’s decision to exclude him from the class, True says, “Pancho [Savery] is the greatest teacher I have ever had.” . . . .

In a statement about his own character, True says, “I believe that I am an emotionally capable, intellectually gifted, cutting wit, hell of a person. I believe I have experienced more trauma and suffering and pain in my life than many of these, well frankly, middle class white girls at Reed could ever know in their lives.”

True distinguishes himself as a “freedom feminist,” differentiating himself from what he calls “toxic radical feminism,” which “speaks out against rape culture at the expense of men.”

Kate Hilts ’16 opposes True’s interpretation of feminism, and offers her own definition.

“Freedom feminism is not feminism,” she says. “Feminism is an understanding of the structures that oppress women and female-presenting people, and a belief that those structures should be dismantled. Freedom feminism is a soft term for a sub-category of men’s rights activism. Moreover, the existence of rape culture is indisputable. . . .

While interviewing with The Quest, True was ecstatic.

“Reedies have forgotten what student activism actually is,” he says. “Student activism can fuck a place up. I have sent the faculty and student services scrambling for cover. It’s been an enormous amount of fun.”

“This is the most fun I’ve had all year,” True continued, “and I have not this much fun since I was a kid. It’s so liberating.”

At the end of his petition, he wrote a haunting statement of his determination:

“No matter what happens. I love you, mom. I love you, dad. I love you my dear, dear sisters. I love you my dearest friends. I love you all, and I will sacrifice everything for you. … I do not want to be a martyr, but I will do that if that is what is necessary to make a statement.”
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Teacher looks like Mr Garrison from South Park.
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Should have played the race card. HE also could have mentioned the amount of black men lynched and falsely convicted of rape against white women. That would have created a huge vitriolic rage fest among SJWs and feminists because they know they cant touch this.

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(03-19-2015 01:27 PM)Dusty Wrote:  By the way, I saw this article this morning and was going to start a thread this evening. Even came up with a thread title:

Possible RVF Reader Banned from Class for Challenging Feminist Rape Hysteria Dogma

(03-19-2015 01:36 PM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  I like your thread title better, Dusty. I need to work on my title-game. I am a long way from even trying to match Steve or Tuth's meme-game, but I think I at least got the format right here.

If I was pulling a McMahon it would be:

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(03-19-2015 01:07 PM)Renzy Wrote:  
(03-19-2015 12:11 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  This is the academic pig of a professor who kicked this kid out of class for expressing his opinion:

http://www.reed.edu/reed_magazine/autumn...avery.html

I clicked on the link. Here's what he has to say in his bio, "Why I Teach at Reed":

Quote:Reed does not encourage you to just agree—Reed teaches you to critically examine everything you hear and everything you read, and not take anybody’s word. You have to have the skill to think, and investigate, and engage in rational dialogue.

Investigative reporting done right.

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Quote:he was no longer welcome to participate in the “conference”

The guy calls class discussions....conferences. As trivial and meaningless as it seems, this is really the only thing you need to know about how ridiculous the situation actually is.

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Another reason why I left college. In the trades, faggigity wishy washy queers like that professor wouldn't last a day. They are weaklings and they know it. It's why they join the SJW cause so that they can justify their weaknesses.
03-19-2015 09:32 PM
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"Rape culture is indisputable"

When you expel and suppress everyone who does dispute it, it does seem that way yeah.
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(03-19-2015 09:22 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  
Quote:he was no longer welcome to participate in the “conference”

The guy calls class discussions....conferences. As trivial and meaningless as it seems, this is really the only thing you need to know about how ridiculous the situation actually is.

Have you ever been on a "conference" call?

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(03-19-2015 03:08 PM)Chunnel Wrote:  What are the odds that this is the same Oregon Liberal Arts college that banned the student for "resembling" someone's rapist.

It'll end up being a brilliant marketing ploy to empty the pockets of the parents of empowered womyns and manginas all over the country. Nothing like a few sacrificial lambs to increase enrollment and profits!

I live in Portland and when I read that thing about the rapist lookalike being banned on a non-specified Oregon liberal arts school my first thought was "Reed". Funny how the most paranoid psychotic bitch I ever knew ended up going there for her Master's degree in socialist bullshit...
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Went to sign the petition and then realised it's just to try and get him back in the class. who cares about that? He's better off not in the class, he'll learn more that way, and suffer less brainwashing. This is good for him.

So I didn't sign the petition
03-20-2015 08:44 AM
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(03-19-2015 10:24 PM)Suits Wrote:  
(03-19-2015 09:22 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  
Quote:he was no longer welcome to participate in the “conference”

The guy calls class discussions....conferences. As trivial and meaningless as it seems, this is really the only thing you need to know about how ridiculous the situation actually is.

Have you ever been on a "conference" call?

Sure. Do you think any of the kids at Reed College (OR) have?

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An odd development reported by the libertarian reason.com blog:

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/19/male-s...rape-stati

Quote:Did a Student's Non-PC Views on Rape Statistics Get Him Banned from Class? Maybe, Maybe Not.

Trigger warning: The ending of this story is pretty nuts.

Robby Soave|Mar. 19, 2015 5:07 pm

A male student at Reed College—a private liberal arts college in Oregon—says he was told not to return to his Humanities 110 discussion because his opinions about the prevalence of campus rape offended other people in the class. His professor, however, disputed that characterization of events in an exclusive statement to Reason.

Reached by email, the student refused to answer my questions and made the weirdest demand I've ever heard. More on that in a minute. . . .

Savery declined comment to BuzzFeed, but I was able to reach him via email. He confirmed that he was a "strong believer in the First Amendment," and maintained that the student's views were not the issue.

"He was not banned because of what he said but because of a series of disruptive behaviors," Savery told Reason.

I also reached True via email, and asked him whether he had been rowdy or disruptive in class. He responded by making a bizarre request. This was his email back to me:

Before I interview with you, you must agree to make "nigger" be the first word in your article.

I declined this ultimatum, and he declined to answer my questions. Needless to say, I've grown a lot more skeptical of True's side of the story. If I find out anything more that backs up either person's assertions about what happened, I'll update this story.

Maybe another example of the importance of maintaining skepticism on all stories. I hope the kid's ok.
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(03-21-2015 09:40 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  An odd development reported by the libertarian reason.com blog:

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/19/male-s...rape-stati

"He was not banned because of what he said but because of a series of disruptive behaviors," Savery told Reason.

I also reached True via email, and asked him whether he had been rowdy or disruptive in class. He responded by making a bizarre request. This was his email back to me:

Before I interview with you, you must agree to make "nigger" be the first word in your article.

I declined this ultimatum, and he declined to answer my questions. Needless to say, I've grown a lot more skeptical of True's side of the story. If I find out anything more that backs up either person's assertions about what happened, I'll update this story.

Maybe another example of the importance of maintaining skepticism on all stories. I hope the kid's ok.
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Well - that's rather bizarre, but on the other hand - he used the n-word anyway in the article.

He could have started it by:

""Nigger" - that's the first word I was supposed to use at the beginning of the article. It was a bizarre condition of the student who was allegedly banned for his non-PC talk about the rape-hysteria. "

Also he could have agreed and told him to publish a word-for-word transcript of his interview and he could say whatever he wanted in the first paragraph.

There are plenty of ways to circumvent those designs. While the demand is certainly strange, the email that the young man posted at his petition is well-versed and very lucid.

However that guy seems truly to be an extreme-out-of-the-box thinker:

http://www.reedquest.org/freshman-exclud...ntroversy/

Quote:“As soon as we started discussing Aristotle he said how did not believe that people who were drunk could not be held responsible for their actions, and similarly (in his line of logic), that racists could not be blamed for their actions because they had ‘never been taught otherwise,’” Maude-Griffin recalls.man-excluded-from-conference-petition-sparks-controversy/


Frankly universities need men like that and while he certainly seems a bit flamboyant, he was clearly rather banned for his views on the idiotic rape culture than anything else - this despite defending the Holocoust and even racism as a black man. I know that those topics may be sensitive but the truth remained that he was banned because of his views on "sexual assault" and triggering assault "survivors".

Maybe his strange demands were a strange way of saying Fuck-You to a journalist.

I think that the story seems to have merit since the university makes the same arguments as the SJW-Borg:

Quote:True distinguishes himself as a “freedom feminist,” differentiating himself from what he calls “toxic radical feminism,” which “speaks out against rape culture at the expense of men.”

Kate Hilts ’16 opposes True’s interpretation of feminism, and offers her own definition.

“Freedom feminism is not feminism,” she says. “Feminism is an understanding of the structures that oppress women and female-presenting people, and a belief that those structures should be dismantled. Freedom feminism is a soft term for a sub-category of men’s rights activism. Moreover, the existence of rape culture is indisputable. There is never any excuse for undermining the lived experience of survivors: academic, statistic, I don’t care. It’s inexcusable.”

True may have read about something called Freedom Feminism, but of course the current Nazi feminists are only calling it MRA-like feminism (may be about true equality) and are saying that Rape Culture is alive and well:


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Interesting, this could be one of those cases where a kid goes to school with the idea that he's going to Dead Poet's Society/Good Will Hunting the stodgy academic environment, but ends up just acting like he has a screw loose.
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Petition only needs 43 more signatures... get that kid back in class you guys!!
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